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    So what do you guys think of him?

    I know there are a lot of pros and cons, but a lot of people hate him for no reason.
    I dont think he handled the whole Iraq case too well, but it can be considered a war.

    Many people don't realize that the government in general didn't do that bad of a job in the last 4 years. You do realize that after 9/11, we haven't had any terrorist attacks.
    You guys realize how easily a terrorist could have snuck into the US and planned an attack.

    Would you guys rather have Bush or Kerry as president right now, and why.

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    History will record him as the most important President since FDR. Further, he will be seen as the greatest President since Abraham Lincoln held the Union together through a Civil War.

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    ...most important president since FDR....hmm..

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    Yep. Why? Who would you pick?

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    Yep. Why? Who would you pick?
    I have no idea, im not the smartest person on the topic or presidents, i've only lived through like 3 different presidents.

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    What's your opinion on this topic smeagol?

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    It's 11:46...and OU STILL sucks!!!!! jalbre6's Avatar
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    History will record him as the most important President since FDR. Further, he will be seen as the greatest President since Abraham Lincoln held the Union together through a Civil War.
    More important than Reagan?

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    His Economic, Fiscal, and Domestic policies place him as one of the 3 worst Presidents in History and the book is still out on the sucess of his foreign policies. I'd still peg him as one of the worst Presidents in history. With that said, I'm glad he was the President rather than Gore, and I'm not overly disappointed and I might be glad he's the President rather than Kerry.

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    More important than Reagan?
    Yes.

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    His Economic, Fiscal, and Domestic policies place him as one of the 3 worst Presidents in History and the book is still out on the sucess of his foreign policies. I'd still peg him as one of the worst Presidents in history. With that said, I'm glad he was the President rather than Gore, and I'm not overly disappointed and I might be glad he's the President rather than Kerry.
    We just disagree.

    Stock market at a 3 1/2 year high. Rebounded from a starting recession in 2001 (inherited from the previous administration) and managed to avoid a deeper recession through a horrific terrorist attack and the economic disaster that brought...

    Sorry, Scott, I just disagree.

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    Oh, he'll surely be remembered. For greatness?? Far from. Let's see, he failed to protect the country from terroists and leading us to a war against another country that didn't have anything to do with 9/11 while forgetting about the true enemy, he led the country into its largest deficit in history, marched thousands of our brave men and women to their doom in a war that can't even be justified. Not to mention picking an administration that are a bunch of morons and revealed that he actually recieved special treatement in the national guard and not even finishing up his commitment while he himself could publicly bash kerry. He stared the country in the eye and lied to us about going to war. Yep, he will go down in the history books. The question remains how many more will die while he's in office.

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    Sorry, Scott, I just disagree.
    And that is okay.

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    It's 11:46...and OU STILL sucks!!!!! jalbre6's Avatar
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    Oh, he'll surely be remembered. For greatness?? Far from. Let's see, he failed to protect the country from terroists and leading us to a war against another country that didn't have anything to do with 9/11 while forgetting about the true enemy, he led the country into its largest deficit in history, marched thousands of our brave men and women to their doom in a war that can't even be justified. Not to mention picking an administration that are a bunch of morons and revealed that he actually recieved special treatement in the national guard and not even finishing up his commitment while he himself could publicly bash kerry. He stared the country in the eye and lied to us about going to war. Yep, he will go down in the history books. The question remains how many more will die while he's in office.
    While I don't agree with 100% of elf's post, some of the best reading in this forum is watching Republicans chop up statements like this trying to defend the Prez, and then bashing those who disagree with their side of the story.

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    Oh, he'll surely be remembered. For greatness?? Far from. Let's see, he failed to protect the country from terroists...
    8 months into an administration that followed 8 years of doing nothing. The 9/11 terrorists were already in place and ready to strike on inauguration day 2001.
    ...and leading us to a war against another country that didn't have anything to do with 9/11
    we disagree on Iraq's involvement with global terrorism.
    ...while forgetting about the true enemy,
    Really? How so?
    he led the country into its largest deficit in history,...
    not even close when counted as % of GNP.
    ...marched thousands of our brave men and women to their doom in a war that can't even be justified.
    I think it is more than justified and, further, that casualties have been astronomically lower than predicted by the same henny-pennies to whom you seem to be listening.
    Not to mention picking an administration that are a bunch of morons
    yeah.
    ...and revealed that he actually recieved special treatement in the national guard and not even finishing up his commitment...
    When'd he "reveal" this?
    ...while he himself could publicly bash kerry.
    I never heard him do anything but praise Senator Kerry's service in Vietnam.
    He stared the country in the eye and lied to us about going to war.
    No, Michael, he didn't.
    Yep, he will go down in the history books. The question remains how many more will die while he's in office.
    Thankfully, the myopic such as you, are not generally considered as reliable historians.

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    Depends on which news channel produced the do entary you're watching, which publisher published the biography or textbook you're reading, or which ideology is held by the professor of your history class.

    I have a feeling that future generations will be quite confused... They'll have been taught that Bush was simultaneously a great leader and a bumbling buffoon.

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    It's 11:46...and OU STILL sucks!!!!! jalbre6's Avatar
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    Thanks, Yoni.

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    Interesting point, Spurm. It will be interesting to see how the further spin-doctoring of history is handled. No doubt it is not a new concept, but I think we have probably seen the death of widespread objetive history.

    Please stay tuned for posts in which the right blames the left for this phenomenon, and vice versa.

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    What's your opinion on this topic smeagol?
    Like you alvarez, I'm not educated enough to compare Bush to other Amercian presidents. I've only lived in the country since '96. Not too much to compare him against.

    I liked the way he reacted to 9/11. The war on the Taliban was one that had to be wagered.

    I do not agree with the war on Iraq.

    On the economic front, putting aside the issues of the deficits stemming from the war-related spending, things appear to be moving in the right direction.

    Foreign policy and economics is as much as I venture to opine about.

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    When the legend becomes fact, print the legend

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    IMHO, Dubya is a doofus looking intelligent man who can't speak english very well but has a good head on his shoulders.
    I don't hate him but I don't love the man either.
    Kerry would have done just as well as our CIC.

    No terrorist attacks here but one just hit our troops right smack in Iraq. But I know that is not Bush's fault. It must be Clinton's in one way or another.

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    In 80 years someone will bring up the topic questioning if Bush was gay.

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    Who knows what Dubya may have done during his drunken stupor days.

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    "No terrorist attacks here but one just hit our troops right smack in Iraq. But I know that is not Bush's fault. It must be Clinton's in one way or another." ..............How bout neither? When we start blaming the enemy for this , then we might be able to do something about it! Why must we always play politics with our soldier's deaths? It reminds me of "my dog's better than your dog". Grow up!!!!!!

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    I'm sure he's a great guy and a good man but I simply don't agree with some of his decisions.

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