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The Vikings have been doing this for years in the Metrodome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoO-F7i6m2w
after the moss catch you can clearly hear the crowd noise "skipping" like a scratched CD. if you watched the game you know what i'm talking about. could this have been a CBS issue? The announcers and everyone else sounded just fine.
The Vikings have been doing this for years in the Metrodome.
no, but I did see some guy with a pats jersey and a video camara pointed at the indy's hand signal guy.......what was that about?
Oh lots of teams do it. The Redskins have been doing it this year as well. But don't you get a hefty fine or some other punishment if you're caught? And if your "crowd noise" CD freakin skips? WTF is Polian too cheap to get an Ipod for that?
He's probably too busy spending all the Colts money trying to get NFL rules made to prevent the Patriots being allowed to tackle, run a 3-4, throw the ball, etc.
That's worse than the cheating the Patriots have been doing for years?
i never said it was, but piping in crowd noise definitely gives your team an advantage. If the other team can't hear audibles or if the QB can't even hear the plays being called into his helmet, and it's because of artificial noise, that definitely is an unfair advantage.
anyways, the videotaping of signals that the Colts do is just as bad as the videotaping of signals that the Patriots got caught doing. The Colts just haven't been busted for it. Yet.
It really gets me when people try to argue which form of cheating is worse. Cheating is cheating.
Is the piping in of crowd noise against NFL rules?
I only ask because I don't know.
yes it is. also, too much crowd noise can actually net the home team a penalty. of course this never gets called but it is in the rule book.
Too much crowd noise a penalty? That has got to be up there with the tuck rule.
That rule was done away with some years ago.
They used to have a noise meter (whatever the it's called), but after many of the owners complained, they did away with the rule.
The Colts have sent their personnel to opposing sidelines to record them??
That's new to everyone.
That rule was done away with some years ago.
They used to have a noise meter (whatever the it's called), but after many of the owners complained, they did away with the rule.
Actually its still there...
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/sp...l/24noise.html
there's still a rule, maybe not the same one but it's a crowd noise penalty.
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/penaltysummaries
it's #25 under "Five Yards"
they videotape signals. just not on the sidelines.
How do you know this?
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007..._121_13_07.txt
Here is a more recent reference to it.
, I thought they had done away with it.
, I learned something new today.
Just from the rumor mill, so it could be total BS, but...
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
POSTED 10:32 a.m. EST; UPDATED 10:50 a.m. EST, November 5, 2007
LEAGUE LOOKING INTO CROWD NOISE PHENOMENON AT RCA DOME
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello tells us that the league is looking into the strange audio phenomenon that occurred near the start of the fourth quarter on Sunday between the Patriots at the Colts.
As explained by some Internet hack on SportingNews.com, the crowd noise made a strange vibrating sound (and then got considerably quieter) in the middle of a New England offensive play.
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=300221
3. Pats have every right to be upset
Though the Patriots got out of Indy with a 24-20 win, the NFL's lone remaining unbeaten team has every right to be livid about the quality (or lack thereof) of the officiating. The worst calls Sunday involved cases of pass interference.
It started when Colts tight end Dallas Clark mauled Patriots safety Rodney Harrison in the end zone on a ball Harrison might have been able to intercept. No call.
It continued when Patriots cornerback Asante Samuel was flagged for interfering with Colts receiver Anthony Gonzalez on a ball that was simply not catchable.
It happened again when New England cornerback Ellis Hobbs was flagged for interference after Indy wideout Reggie Wayne literally tackled him.
The worst call was made in the fourth quarter, with the Patriots driving and trailing by 10. From the Indianapolis 3, Brady threw to Randy Moss in the end zone. When the dust settled, Moss was flagged for offensive pass interference, even though he did nothing that would classify as offensive pass interference. While New England overcame the 10-yard penalty to score, the victory was a lot more difficult than it should have been because of the questionable decisions of the officials.
So what gives? Was it sheer incompetence? Or have the Patriots become the equivalent of the old Raiders in the eyes of the NFL and those who officiate their games?
4. Milli Vanilli moment in Indy?
In the past, teams that have visited the RCA Dome have questioned whether the Colts pipe in artificial crowd noise in an effort to disrupt the road team's offense. Though the Colts have denied any such chicanery (thanks, Tiki), the su ions remain.
And the su ions will only grow stronger after Sunday's game against New England. During the first play of the fourth quarter, the noise from the crowd contained a strange effect. It almost sounded like my kid was working the "Whammy Bar" while playing Guitar Hero.
We don't know whether that noise could be heard in the stadium, but it was obvious on CBS' broadcast. And it invites speculation as to whether the Colts are indeed piping in phony music -- and whether there was a malfunction of some sort on Sunday that offered proof of it.
I don't think you should pipe in extra noise but if your fans are loud by themselves, don't penalize them for that.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nfl...?urn=nfl,52422
Patriots complain about crowd noise
By Jason Cole
Monday, Nov 5, 2007 12:13 pm EST
The NFL is looking into allegations that the Indianapolis Colts piped in noise during the game Sunday between the Colts and the Patriots. The charge comes after Patriots President Jonathan Kraft became the latest NFL team executive to accuse the Colts of the distracting tactic that is against the rules.
"We're aware of it and we're looking into it," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Monday. "It may just be the TV feed from CBS, but we're checking it out."
Observers at the game said there seemed to be a "skip" in the sound during the game Sunday, which the Patriots won 24-20. That might confirm the long-held su ion among many people in the NFL that the Colts play loud crowd noise to help distract opponents when the other team is on offense.
"We're aware of the accusations, but there has never been anything to substantiate it," Aiello said.
Kraft approached NFL Vice President of Security Milt Ahlerich after Kraft and his parents, Patriots owners Bob and Myra Kraft, left the Patriots locker room after the game.
Kraft was angry as he told Ahlerich the league needed to look into the allegation. Ahlerich is the same person who confiscated a videotape made by the Patriots during a game against the New York Jets in Week 2 that led to the Spygate controversy.
In addition, New England quarterback Tom Brady also commented on how loud it was in the RCA Dome.
"I don't know how you measure levels of being deaf, but we couldn't hear anything out there," Brady said.
This is the latest in a string of incidents between the teams that have fueled the growing Colts-Pats rivalry. In the past, Colts General Manager Bill Polian has vehemently argued that the Patriots have bent the rules in terms of use of replay challenges and the pass interference rule.
Whether or not they used crowd noise, I was impressed with the Colts. I didn't think they could touch the Patriots. Granted, they repeatedly got huge calls and still lost at home, but they were still in the same league as the Patriots. Marvin Harrison wasn't there as well. Colts have cemented a nice spot at #2.
NFL said it was only during the broadcast, some blip from a CBS truck.
CBS covers the colts ass
http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...checks_in.html
CBS checks in
By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff
Following up on the crowd noise issue in the RCA Dome, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello passes along the following:
"CBS has informed us that the unusual audio moment heard by fans during the Patriots-Colts telecast was the result of tape feedback in the CBS production truck and was isolated to the CBS broadcast. It was in no way related to any sound within the stadium and could not be heard in the stadium."
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