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    Rick Hawkins, who is the pastor at Family Praise Worship on Loop 410, got busted by WOAI-TV last night for soliciting sex with a bunch of single and married women that he was "counseling". I am not sure what is more sad....the harm he inflicted on all those women, or all those suckers (church members) that bought into his bull . Watch the video and see all those members jumping around like trained monkeys while he rails his venom.

    As a sidebar, his newest "best friend", TV evangelist Paula White, who bought an expensive house in Boerne near Hawkins own house, was one of 5 national TV evangelist the Senate will investigate. Hawkins was recently divorced and White is getting divorced.

    http://www.woai.com/news/local/story...4-b66a8e619e05

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    Don't judge the many by the actions of a few.

    I could easily come in here and say that beer drinkers are, "the s of the earth" to borrow a phrase from that other thread; and then proceed to link article after article of drunk drivers, party miscreants, thug misfits wreaking havoc on society.

    While that may be the case for some people, it obviously would be a stereotypical generalization nonetheless.

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    I will judge televangelists/celebrity ministers a bit harshly because most of them have turned out to be all about glorifying themselves.

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    Is she running a ministry or angling to become the next Martha?

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    Corpus Christi Spurs Fan Phenomanul's Avatar
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    I will judge televangelists/celebrity ministers a bit harshly because most of them have turned out to be all about glorifying themselves.

    Really???

    And just how did you come by those numbers?

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    Purrrrrrrrrrrr Holt's Cat's Avatar
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    Name me one who hasn't.

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    Don't judge the many by the actions of a few.

    I could easily come in here and say that beer drinkers are, "the s of the earth" to borrow a phrase from that other thread; and then proceed to link article after article of drunk drivers, party miscreants, thug misfits wreaking havoc on society.

    While that may be the case for some people, it obviously would be a stereotypical generalization nonetheless.
    Since god has no need for human currency, I'll judge them all I want.

    They lead a life of luxury while those who hold on to faith live in misery.

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    Name me one who hasn't.

    Billy Graham.... and for that matter, his sons.

    Enumerable singers who are also celebrities (Steve Green, Steven Curtis Chapman, Philips, Craig & Dean, MercyMe, Salvador, Chris Tomlin, Jeremy Camp, etc...)

    My point stands however. Your comment was beyond stereotypical. All you are standing on is your opinion.
    Last edited by Phenomanul; 11-08-2007 at 09:07 AM.

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    Purrrrrrrrrrrr Holt's Cat's Avatar
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    So yes, Billy Graham. He alone is why I wrote "most" and not all.

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    Since god has no need for human currency, I'll judge them all I want.

    They lead a life of luxury while those who hold on to faith live in misery.

    And how exactly do you have access to their tax forms? And how many people are we talking about here?

    They probably have donated a higher percentage of their income to selfless causes than you ever have in your entire llifetime. But don't let that little detail get in the way of your scorn.

    And don't get me wrong, I don't particularly condone their lifestyles. But I also didn't lump them all together like you did.

    Hatred is always more opinionated than it is practical; your comments embody this much.
    Last edited by Phenomanul; 11-07-2007 at 04:27 PM.

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    Its so easy for people to judge another when something like this is exposed by the media.

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    And how exactly do you have access to their tax forms? And how many people are we talking about here?

    They probably donate a higher percentage of their income to selfless causes than you ever have in your llifetime. But don't let that little detail get in the way of your scorn.

    And don't get me wrong, I don't particularly condone their lifestyles. But I also didn't lump them all together like you did.

    Hatred is always more opinionated than it is practical.
    I'm sorry.
    I wasn't aware that Jesus Christ wore that latest in fashion trends and lived in a 50 room mansion.

    I must've gotten a bible with all that stuff written out of it.

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    I'm sorry but I didn't see anyone judging anyone until Pheno chimmed and started in with the whole "don't judge them all" bit. It was a breaking story where exactly was the judging?

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    I'm sorry but I didn't see anyone judging anyone until Pheno chimmed and started in with the whole "don't judge them all" bit. It was a breaking story where exactly was the judging?
    The story was not based on facts. They're allegations. Nothing was proven to be exact. Read what the person who started the thread wrote. That sounds like judging to me.

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    I'm sorry.
    I wasn't aware that Jesus Christ wore that latest in fashion trends and lived in a 50 room mansion.

    I must've gotten a bible with all that stuff written out of it.

    Continue to ignore the point I'm trying to make. Sarcasm really works for you.

    And nevermind the fact that I've agreed with you on the crux of the argument.




    We understand your hate. Just don't expect us to buy into your rabid generalizations.

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    I'm sorry but I didn't see anyone judging anyone until Pheno chimmed and started in with the whole "don't judge them all" bit. It was a breaking story where exactly was the judging?

    This goes back to the "attack on Christians" topic started in that other thread. Otherwise why even start the thread? Try to keep up.

    Obviously there are some rotten apples. That doesn't suggest that all apples are rotten.

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    I'm out. I have to get back to work.

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    The story was not based on facts. They're allegations. Nothing was proven to be exact. Read what the person who started the thread wrote. That sounds like judging to me.
    Sounded more like an extension of the article. I get it though, people can go through this world wrecking havoc on peoples lives and its all subjective to a jury's opinion before we are allowed to point fingers.

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    Continue to ignore the point I'm trying to make. Sarcasm really works for you.

    And nevermind the fact that I've agreed with you on the crux of the argument.




    We understand your hate. Just don't expect us to buy into your rabid generalizations.
    What's your point?
    Not all televangelists are bad??

    Good point.

    My point was that Jesus Christ would never have done any of this. He never would have asked for people to give him money. He never would have lived a comfortable life at the expense of others. He never would have lived like these televangelists . . . ever.

    If you defend them, then you don't understand what chrisitanity is.

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    I have a hard time respecting someone who demands my excellence and part of my income only to hop in their Lambo and cruise over to the Dominion for a relaxing round of golf.

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    Jesus judged the Pharisees the hardest of all- the religious leaders who were hypocrits.

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    Sounded more like an extension of the article. I get it though, people can go through this world wrecking havoc on peoples lives and its all subjective to a jury's opinion before we are allowed to point fingers.
    People can base judgement based on this story if they want. I choose not to do so because I don't think its right to. The news story was based on a woman telling her side of the story and some other email or something like that. However, the allegations haven't been proven.

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    Jesus judged the Pharisees the hardest of all- the religious leaders who were hypocrits.
    True that.

    And, he also destroyed the stands of all the vendors who made their business outside the Temple.

    These televangelists put them all to shame.

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    Phenomanul owning fools in this thread.

    btw, some TV evangelist make my skin crawl.

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