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    Would he be a senator...much less a presidential candidate?

    Watching him on Meet the Press yesterday, I'd have to say, "No".

    (of course GW or Hillary wouldn't be where they are if they weren't WHO they are, but I would like to talk about Obama)

    If anybody else caught it, what were your impressions?

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    Funny, it's the same reason he won't be president.

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    Funny, it's the same reason he won't be president.
    You think?

    I think Colin Powell would be elected in a landside if he ran.

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    Would he be a senator...much less a presidential candidate?

    Watching him on Meet the Press yesterday, I'd have to say, "No".

    (of course GW or Hillary wouldn't be where they are if they weren't WHO they are, but I would like to talk about Obama)

    If anybody else caught it, what were your impressions?
    Hmmm. He ran against another Black man in Illinois for Senator, so it couldn't have been his race that got him elected. Jesse Jackson is Black and ran for president, but didn't do as well as Obama. Carole Mosley Braun ran in 2004 and didn't poll anywhere close to what Obama is polling at now.

    What I wonder is would you be calling his credentials into question if he wasn't Black? Certainly he is no worse than any of the other candidates.

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    You think?

    I think Colin Powell would be elected in a landside if he ran.

    I'd vote for a republican Colin Powell.. in a heart beat

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    Hmmm. He ran against another Black man in Illinois for Senator, so it couldn't have been his race that got him elected. Jesse Jackson is Black and ran for president, but didn't do as well as Obama. Carole Mosley Braun ran in 2004 and didn't poll anywhere close to what Obama is polling at now.

    What I wonder is would you be calling his credentials into question if he wasn't Black? Certainly he is no worse than any of the other candidates.
    I didn't question his credentials; I wonder what is so awesome about him. I expected something more charismatic and masterful for him to have come so far, so fast. Clinton always awed me with his obvious intellect, political instinct and smoothness. Kennedy was a Kennedy, Bush was a Bush - there are other young politicians out there - why him?

    I think because he's black, and I think Joe Biden agrees with me.

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    I didn't question his credentials; I wonder what is so awesome about him. I expected something more charismatic and masterful for him to have come so far, so fast. Clinton always awed me with his obvious intellect, political instinct and smoothness. Kennedy was a Kennedy, Bush was a Bush - there are other young politicians out there - why him?

    I think because he's black, and I think Joe Biden agrees with me.
    Your link doesn't work, but I am assuming that you are referring to Biden's statement that Obama is the first Black candidate that is (if my memory serves correctly) "mainstream, clean, and articulate."

    I don't know what Biden was trying to say, but again, clearly it's not all about his race. There have been plenty of Black candidates that have not done as well as Obama. And I assume that is exactly what Biden meant by his comment. Namely, that Obama is the first Black candidate that people will take seriously.

    Plus, your first post indicates that you are judging him solely by his appearance on Meet the Press. I have watched every candidate that has been on Meet the Press lately and none have wowed me with their appearances, including Obama. Again though, that's been true for all of them. It's hard to come off well with Russert trying to play "Gotcha" with every question.

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    I have watched every candidate that has been on Meet the Press lately and none have wowed me with their appearances...
    The state of politics.

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    It's hard to come off well with Russert trying to play "Gotcha" with every question.
    You mean like when he brought up the quote from the DNC convention in '04 when Obama said, "there isn't much difference between me and Bush on Iraq"?

    and Obama answered by saying, "Well, you know, we had two candidates who voted for entering the war, so what could I do?"

    You mean moments like that?

    That ain't a gotcha - because Russert dropped it!

    a "Gotcha" WOULD have been:

    "So, you'll say whatever needs to be said as long as it is politically expedient." OR "You'll put your party ahead of your own political veiws".

    But Russert didn't say either of those things. He said, "OK".

    OR When talking about Social Security, and Obama was talking about making the tough choices, which boiled down to making a minority of the population pay for the over burdened demands of the majority's en lement program. I don't understand what is so bold about that? Take from the rich - give to the poor AND middle class certainly won't cost him that many votes!

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    Obama is a socialist. Pure and simple. Just like Hillary.
    Edwards is a lawyer, running on the fumes of socialism.
    He could care less what happens to the coutry. So long
    as he gets elected. Edwards will take care of Edwards
    and Hillary will do her socialist thing and take care of
    the elitist Socialist.

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    Obama is a socialist. Pure and simple. Just like Hillary.
    Edwards is a lawyer, running on the fumes of socialism.
    He could care less what happens to the coutry. So long
    as he gets elected. Edwards will take care of Edwards
    and Hillary will do her socialist thing and take care of
    the elitist Socialist.



    sigh...

    but,but,but the reublicans don't care about power they are in it strictly for the country..they don't care about power but the dems do..

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    sigh...

    but,but,but the reublicans don't care about power they are in it strictly for the country..they don't care about power but the dems do..
    Of course we care about power, dummy. We want to be
    able to appoint the new supremes. But we do care about
    country as well. But you would never understand, I mean
    after all. Conservatives are bad to the core. And that is
    all you see. You dimms put someone up for election that
    really cares, most of us would take a look. But who
    have you got running now. Holy smokes, just look.

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    ive never meet or even heard of any real person who supports obama for president



    anyone?

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    I have watched every candidate that has been on Meet the Press lately and none have wowed me with their appearances, including Obama.
    There's only one Cheney!

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    ive never meet or even heard of any real person who supports obama for president



    anyone?
    Well, there's Mic e Obama. I'm assuming she's real. It is, of course, only an assumption.

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    honestly I have never meet or heard of anyone in real life who supports obama or hillary

    even on spurstalk??



    yet these chodes are supposed to be frontrunners

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Of course we care about power, dummy. We want to be
    able to appoint the new supremes. But we do care about
    country as well. But you would never understand, I mean
    after all. Conservatives are bad to the core. And that is
    all you see. You dimms put someone up for election that
    really cares, most of us would take a look. But who
    have you got running now. Holy smokes, just look.

    well mr hypocrite you attack dems for the exact same things the republicans are doing.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    There's only one Cheney!

    thankfully.. and this one is going straight to ..

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    well, we don't have to worry about our country being sold to china anymore.

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    thankfully.. and this one is going straight to ..
    Wow, you've actually managed language where the phrase, "judge not, lest ye be judged," applies. Good going.

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    yoni doesn't judge the right wing, only the lefties.

    is too comfortable for head and his bloody hands.

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    Wow, you've actually managed language where the phrase, "judge not, let ye be judged," applies. Good going.


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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    yoni doesn't judge the right wing, only the lefties.

    is too comfortable for head and his bloody hands.

    he acknowledges that he has a double standards. he probably tells his teens that it's ok to be hypocrites..

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    could you imagine the outrage that yoni and xray would spew if a dimmocrap president had sold this country to china?

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