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You're right Tpark... dude gets hated on big time when we lose but isn't even thought about when we win.
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So if Sequ has me on ignore, how can he read what I said?
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Can someone quote Sequ because he's on my ignore list and I'd like to know what Santa's little helper had to say in this thread.
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Hey Writer...how many minutes did Horry play against Orlando? Would you have those numbers for me?
Pop deserved the blame he got. He made stupid subs utions...
The question you should be asking yourself though..and why Pop gets ripped...how come me and Aggie can see it but he can't?
Whottt's the ing deal?
in popsucker.
Dont you know he has zilch to do with tonight.
BTW. I dont think he has much to do with wins or losses.
Some losses are because of bad play, and bad player management yeah.
Thats fine. But where are the threads, when he makes a few good moves. Calls a few good plays.
Writes up a good play out of a timeout.
Zilch.
I just ask for fairness.
I agree last night, Horry and Barry probobly shouldve played.
But we lost BECAUSE of POp?
I find it hard to believe.
Evenhandedness.
Thats all I ask.
where is your credit for Pop tonight Whottt??
Where is "intelligence"
tonight???
"Whotttts up?" question
Had the Spurs won without Horry, would his minutes have been an issue?
If the Spurs had lost with Horry playing, wouldn't Pop get heat for not playing... Massenburg or Malik or Marks... Give me a break.
They win as a team (including Pop) and lose as a team. Bottomline.
I'll give credit to Pop tonight. The knucklehead finally read some legit takes here at FSP and pulled a lineup out of his ass that would go 82 and 0 in the regular season. Only the Miami Dolphins have pulled a stunt like that.
Yes, they would be...I've ed every time this season he has iced Barry and Horry...the reason you haven't seen me ing about it much during wins is because we have lost all but 2 games he has done that in...the first Orlando game and the Detroit game...both were 3 point home wins...
And yes I ed...all the other were losses.
Are you saying you can't tell the difference between Horry and Marks and Mass?If the Spurs had lost with Horry playing, wouldn't Pop get heat for not playing... Massenburg or Malik or Marks... Give me a break.
They win as a team (including Pop) and lose as a team. Bottomline.
And BTW, I wouldn't have minded seeing Mass lay a thumping on a couple of Magic players last night.
No what hes saying Whottt Heal, is that whatever Pop does, and when this team loses.
The first in thread is
"This loss is on Pop"
Never fails.
EVERY LOSS, amazingly, is Pop's fault.
Scroll up ...I already said this win is on Pop...I said it in this thread and in Aggie's thread.
More importantly...I think perhaps he has finally figured it out...since this is the first time he has given Horry and Barry big minutes in a big game, this season.
But , how hard is it to figure out...hmmm maybe I should give Horry and Barry a try...
I mean damn, a couple of fans like me and Aggie can figure it out...how much credit do you want to give him for it? He gets credit..but he gets more blame for not playing them in losses because it's ing stupid not to try them.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out those guys have something to offer us...it takes a dumbass not to realize it.
What I am saying Whottt, is that no single blame can be placed on anyone.
Again:
They wi as a team and they lose as a team.
Get it? Whottt else is there to say?
I'll give Pop his due for tonight, but until I see it on a consistent basis I'm not quite ready to campaign for his entrance into the Hall of Fame. Sorry.
They don't lose as a team when Horry and his 5 ing rings don't get a second of PT in a major game. Pop loses that game.
The point we've been making is that if you play the guys you brought in to bust the zones, you'd be doing a whole lot more of the former and a whole let less of the latter.They wi as a team and they lose as a team.
I'll give Pop his due for tonight, but until I see it on a consistent basis I'm not quite ready to campaign for his entrance into the Hall of Fame. Sorry.
Of course not.
Then you wouldnt be able to make a post here without bashing him or blaming him.
You're right, whenever Horry plays, the Spurs win.
I guess you completely missed all of last season, the playoffs, and the 26 games this season before tonight game. Because I'm pretty sure the Spurs have lost when Horry has played.
But hey, I so could be wrong...
Sure, but putting in Horry or Barry doesn't gurantee a win. I can understand the anger when Pop keeps the same people in and we lose. But if putting in Horry and Brent is an automatic win, I think Pop would do that. However, Manu, Brown, and Bowen can all hit from the outside and break zones.
It's also about matchups.
I can understand the anger at Pop because he controls who plays and who doesn't. But I don't blame hiim or anyone else. I blame the team.
Stop it writer, your being a homer, and a popsucker.
You are looking at things in terms of absolutes...You're right, whenever Horry plays, the Spurs win.
I guess you completely missed all of last season, the playoffs, and the 26 games this season before tonight game. Because I'm pretty sure the Spurs have lost when Horry has played.
But hey, I so could be wrong...
Barry and Horry need substantial court time in every game to give us the best chance of winning...they do not need to be getting the Smitty and Ferry treatment...because they are not Smitty and Ferry...
Treating them the same way we treated those players...is stupid..and I and like minded individuals, will continue to rip Pop a new one every time he does it. Because he needs to be ripped a new one...
How do you know Horry wouldn't have had a tremendous impact in the Orlando game? He did tonight...he did in the few games prior to the Orlando game...why in the wasn't he played?
Just answer me that questuion...because the only answer I can come up with....is stupidity.
Pop started being a to Horry and Barry in the Detroit game and we have sucked in big games every since he started doing it.
Look up the stats...go look at those games where Barry and Horry have gotten 0-8 minutes of PT...
I can list the games...
The second Seattle game
Detroit
Houston
Orlando
Orlando again...
Look at the trend in those games...then go look at the trend in the other games...
2-3 in those games where Horry and Barry get limited minutes...and the 2 wins were both by 3 points...And Barry had to hit some clutch FT's in that one Detroit game...
Conversely...
19-3 in games where they get big minutes...all of the wins are blowouts or easy wins...every one of them.
Don't take a ing genius to figure it out...
What else would you expect from an Aggie. So who should be the coach numb nuts?
I think the hardest job Pop has is to find who is going to play serious defense during the entire time they are on the court. It doenst matter what the line up is as long as they play defense first. Defense wins championships. The Spurs offense is best when the defense is causing havok on the other team.
If the Spurs would have played defense in the 1st half of the Seattle home game the way they played defense in the 2nd half of that same game they would have won. You cant beat a good team when you give up that many open shots. Switch, rotate on defense and contest every ing shot. That type of hard work wins championships (check the record book).
Last edited by GoSpurs21; 12-23-2004 at 11:52 PM.
I can post without bashing him. Are you capable of making a post critical of him? I've never seen it.Of course not.
Then you wouldnt be able to make a post here without bashing him or blaming him.
Buddy Holly, err Writer:
Spurs record in games where Barry plays more than 10 minutes: 18-3 (.857).Sure, but putting in Horry or Barry doesn't gurantee a win.
Spurs record in games where Barry plays less than 10 minutes: 3-3 (.500).
Same goes for Horry (plus or minus ten minutes of PT).
GoSpurs,
It's funny that you make fun of me for being an Aggie, when you're the numb nuts with the reading comprehension problem. I didn't say fire Pop, just said he needs to pull his Popdamn head out and use his ing bench, particularly the guys he brought in to bust up zones.So who should be the coach numb nuts?
For me losing last year sucked, I don't know about you. Or are you just a bandwagon fan? I hate seeing the Spurs lose, particularly when they are struggling and have guys they brought in as free agents to play and help the offense in those exact situations where we were struggling.
Damn, some of you are denser than a wall of bricks on this .
Tpark, I have a question for you. Do you like to take the losing side of arguments on purpose? Is it like some form of intellectual masochism?
The sooner I see Rasho sitting on the bench, the sooner I'll be happy. Devin has sucked the past few games, Barry hasn't.
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