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    If it was possible to draft someone who I am beginning to
    think is head and shoulders above anyone running for
    President, I think it would be Joe Libermann. The man,
    on his own, shows more common sense than anyone I have
    heard for a long time. I dismissed him as Gores pick as
    VP, but the dumb Gore overshadowed him and Joe
    tried to toe the line as a good dimm.

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    If it was possible to draft someone who I am beginning to
    think is head and shoulders above anyone running for
    President, I think it would be Joe Libermann. The man,
    on his own, shows more common sense than anyone I have
    heard for a long time. I dismissed him as Gores pick as
    VP, but the dumb Gore overshadowed him and Joe
    tried to toe the line as a good dimm.
    I wouldn't oppose him as a Vice Presidential running mate on a ticket that didn't include Rudy Guiliani as the Presidential candidate.

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    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
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    I assume from what you are saying that you think he may be
    on the liberal side. I am really not sure that that is the case.
    He comes from that part of the country, I will concede, but he
    really makes a lot of sense on some things. He isn't the
    extreme. He is, as I remember, from the old Democrats. Who
    were really pretty conservative compared to todays pols.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I wouldn't oppose him as a Vice Presidential running mate on a ticket that didn't include Rudy Guiliani as the Presidential candidate.

    But Rudy can't stay committed to one woman? he picks shady characters to high seciruty positions so logically I would have to question his character and decision making.

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    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
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    But Rudy can't stay committed to one woman? he picks shady characters to high seciruty positions so logically I would have to question his character and decision making.
    Good gosh, cant you ever stay on a decent conversation. If
    you have something to contributed do so, but get off your
    I hate all republicans. We already know that.

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    let's say rudy isn't a republican.

    bad decision maker or also corrupt?

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    I assume from what you are saying that you think he may be
    on the liberal side. I am really not sure that that is the case.
    He comes from that part of the country, I will concede, but he
    really makes a lot of sense on some things. He isn't the
    extreme. He is, as I remember, from the old Democrats. Who
    were really pretty conservative compared to todays pols.
    No, he's an old-style Democrat with many liberal positions -- most of them reasonable but with which I probably disagree. I just think he and Rudy are of the same mind on social, foreign, and fiscal policy and, therefore, would be two sides of the same coin.

    I think there needs to be more of a contrast.

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    let's say rudy isn't a republican.

    bad decision maker or also corrupt?
    Well, he is a Republican and he's not my first choice for President either.

    But, I don't think his professional judgement has taken that much of a beating. However, he ranks up there with Bill Clinton on personal judgement.

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    Rudy, I do have some real problems with. I like his stand on
    security but it really kinda ends there. He was a good law and
    order person in NYC and I think he handled the WTC really well.
    But Libermann does come across as a sincere person who will
    talk it out. I may not agree with what he would finally agree on
    but look what we got with Bush. One of the biggest socialist
    issues going, drug program and he let the old swimmer write
    the education bill, good gosh, I cant go along with either.

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    Well, he is a Republican and he's not my first choice for President either.

    But, I don't think his professional judgement has taken that much of a beating. However, he ranks up there with Bill Clinton on personal judgement.
    the beating hasn't even started, yet.

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    It's the old, tiered joke self-manifested, How do you know when Joe Lieberman is lying? When his lips are moving....Has Lieberman ever been right about anything in Iraq? Not that's been actually confirmed, but yet head-in-the-sand Republicans like Ray are ready to lead the country into another war with Iran based on the same kinda research (none), Lieberman did before the invasion of Iraq....

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    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
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    It's the old, tiered joke self-manifested, How do you know when Joe Lieberman is lying? When his lips are moving....Has Lieberman ever been right about anything in Iraq? Not that's been actually confirmed, but yet head-in-the-sand Republicans like Ray are ready to lead the country into another war with Iran based on the same kinda research (none), Lieberman did before the invasion of Iraq....
    By the above statement I take it you wouldn't vote for him,
    can I put you down as a "no".

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    By the above statement I take it you wouldn't vote for him,
    can I put you down as a "no".

    You could put me down for sending Joe to the Hague....

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