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It's quite shocking to see a 33rd pick waived by a D-League team. It should have something behind that like a locker room trouble or Williams signing soon with a team in Europe.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_538313.html
AUSTIN TOROS—Waived G Ronald Blackshear, F Joseph Works and F Marcus Williams.
It's quite shocking to see a 33rd pick waived by a D-League team. It should have something behind that like a locker room trouble or Williams signing soon with a team in Europe.
Sorry, bro, I know you thought he was awesome but this is the funniest development of the year by a mile. Marcus Williams is so bad he got waived by the Toros.
If there isn't any other explanation, like signing in Europe, Williams has cemented his place as the worst player selected in the draft. I knew he sucked but this even surprises me. The D-League is one of the worst leagues in the world as far as talent. To get cut from the D-League is a clear sign that your basketball career is over.
For Williams sake, hopefully there is an explanation to this. If not, this might very well be the end.
Yes, it's really pathetic if he has been waived because he wasn't good enough for a D-League team.
Another explanation could be that Williams was pissed after Spurs because they cut him. He didn't want to play for their D-League team and asked to be released to play for another D-League that has nothing to do with Spurs.
I don't think that's it. I seriously just think he's just an absolutely horrible basketball player. During summer league, he was almost always the worst player on the court. In preseason in the NBA, he just didn't look like he belonged athletically. He doesn't move like a perimeter player ... he moves more like a power forward, which is the position he played a lot in college.
It's laughably pathetic but I can seriously see a scenario in which a couple scrub D-League level talents beat him out for a roster spot. I watched Williams all summer league and all preseason and never saw anything resembling a basketball player with talent. He was young, had long arms and was a decent enough kid but he had a major flaw.
He sucked at basketball.
My guess is that he took a Euro contract and that he requested waivers. I can't imagine he sucked that much.
Yep, he sucked that much.
My only question about that would be why? He was DEAD SET against Europe like 2 months ago. If he changed his mind after the Spurs cut him, he could have gone immediately, and skipped the whole DLeague thing altogether. The money is obviously better in Europe, but didn't he know that before the DLeague draft? Is he just stupid?
An Euro team could be interested in Williams while it wasn't interested in him two weeks ago.
In November, most Euro rosters are full but teams can need a player in case of an injury or if one of its players sucks and is cut.
You can imagine this scenario :
Two weeks ago, no teams in Europe was really attractive (by considering the money, playtime and the level of compe ions played) for Williams. D-League was the best solution for him.
During these last 2 weeks, a team has had a player injured or has waived a player and is looking for a new player.
This team made an offer to Williams that is more attractive than the offer he previously received and that the D-League situation. Playing in Europe become the best solution.
Last year, Darius Washington was drafted by Austin in the first round but go instead in Greece to take the spot of a player who was out of shape.
This year, Pau-Orthez (Mahinmi's former team) is struggling and has waived this week one of his players. They now look for a new player and one of the name given is Carlos Powell who was the second overall pick of the D-League draft.
He was HORRIBLE and I knew that he wouldn't make it in the league...ANY league!
So do the Spurs still own his rights?
Obviously he's got less than 1% chance of ever being a Spur, but do they still have the ability to re-sign him if he improves?
Ironically, according to timvp this would have been wanted all along. I just don't know about the draft rights thing....
No. Once a player signs with a team his rights are essentially "cashed in". Since Williams signed a non-guaranteed contract with the Spurs and was subsequently waived. His rights have been used and the contract fulfilled. He is an unrestricted free agent.
This whole bit with him joining the Toros by allocation was simply an unforseen bonus that has no bearing on his draft rights.
That's just sad. You hope he's got something lined up overseas and that Spurs didn't mess up this badly on a draft pick.
The guy must have the yipps. What I mean by the yipps is what Rick Ankiel sufferred from as a pitcher.
If he really was as bad as TIMVP says, there is no way he could have ever averaged 16ppg at a top tier school like Arizona.
Something happened to this guy.
While people are enjoying dumping on the guy-- how about the Spurs using this pick on him- that is even worse. It is not his fault where he got drafted- he is probably doing his best. The Spurs are the ones who are supposed to be so great at the evaluation of talent.
Foreign, not domestic.
My point exactly.
RC is shown to be a genius?
Shows how hard it is in most cases to judge a player's ability to make it in the NBA.
There are always players who come out too soon or simply haven't developed their skills who get drafted in the 2nd round or undrafted.
Some hang 'em up, some play in minor leagues or Europe and some eventually work their way back into a slot. When we remember St. Bowen and Washington on our current roster didn't make it for a while, there's really no need to rag on the kid.
Or RC or Pop for that matter. Most GMs and Coaches 'fail' with their 2nd round picks if you somehow believe that 2nd rounders should make the team and their picks are failures if they don't.
A lot of players averaged big points on top college teams and never played a second of professional basketball. There is a big difference between playing for a bad college team and playing pro ... on any level.
I downloaded and watched a couple of his college games in which he put up big numbers about a month ago. I wanted to see how the Spurs could have been so wrong about this guy.
What I came away with was at Arizona, he basically played power forward. Defensively, Arizona used a lot of zone and Williams rarely had to defend out on the perimeter. In the rare times he defended someone on the perimeter, Arizona had help stationed at all angles.
On tape, you couldn't really get a true feel for his suckage level because his flaws were hidden well by Arizona. That said, I didn't see anything that would indicate he'd be a good pro.
The Spurs need a new domestic scout. George Felton should give back his championship ring that I'm not even sure how he earned in the first place.
I had a feeling Marcus might suffer by comparison to Justin Bowen, who basically developed everything Marcus needs to develop last season. I did think they could have actually played together though. There are all kinds of possible explanations for the waiving, the problem is his simply getting beat out by other players is the most plausible.
Poor guy. I hope he gets an opportunity somewhere and works hard to improve.
Spurs domestic scout need to get better
They drafted a guy who is so bad he can't play in NBDL
http://www.nba.com/dleague/dleague/transactions.html
November 14: AUSTIN
Waived G Ronald Blackshear, F Joseph Works, and F Marcus Williams due to injury.
I just hope for him that it isn't a big injury.
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