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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Scotty, what would Grandma Rylander (his mom) say?

    To no one's surprise in a world where top White House aides with any president eventually write a book about it, former Press Sectetary Scott McClellan will be coming out with his volume in April.

    It's called "What Happened" and its publisher, Public Affairs, at its Web site carries this brief excerpt:

    "The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.

    "There was one problem. It was not true.

    "I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President's chief of staff, and the president himself."
    Editor and Publisher

    The Armitage admission was a ruse....Plame was spying on Iran and the Neocons got worried that she would blow their cover on the 'Iranians are enriching weapons grade uranium' ruse they are currently perpetuating thanks in large part to the M$M....yep, the same group that brought us, Iraqi WMDs and 'immenent threat'.... , even Colin Powell has had enough, admitting just this week that Iran was still years away from even getting the technology to build a nuclear bomb....much less build one...

    Artimage is a hard-core Neocon who signed a 1998(?) letter to President Clinton urging him to, tada....... attack Iraq and dispose Saddam....yep, he's a PNACer....

    Would have been nice if McClellan had come clean a lot sooner

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Scotty, what would Grandma Rylander (his mom) say?



    Editor and Publisher

    The Armitage admission was a ruse....Plame was spying on Iran and the Neocons got worried that she would blow their cover on the 'Iranians are enriching weapons grade uranium' ruse they are currently perpetuating thanks in large part to the M$M....yep, the same group that brought us, Iraqi WMDs and 'immenent threat'.... , even Colin Powell has had enough, admitting just this week that Iran was still years away from even getting the technology to build a nuclear bomb....much less build one...

    Artimage is a hard-core Neocon who signed a 1998(?) letter to President Clinton urging him to, tada....... attack Iraq and dispose Saddam....yep, he's a PNACer....

    Would have been nice if McClellan had come clean a lot sooner

    If we were to subs ue Bush for Clinton in this situation we would have the resident bush s telling us this is patterned behaviour. why would ALL of these people say this about Clnton if it weren't true , xray would clamor!! "It's the dimmocraps after all" xray would say. But it's not Clinton. It's Bush so they will come out and blame nancy pelosi and harry reid..etc..


    On another note how many more time does yoni and ray have to hear there aren't wmds?

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    "here aren't wmds"

    they're ignorant, lying robots programmed to spew the defenses of a bogus war-for-oil, to "frame" the discussion with WMD while excluding war-for-oil.

    or maybe they are just stupid dumb s too embarrassed to admit dubya suckered them with WMD bull .

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    "here aren't wmds"

    they're ignorant, lying robots programmed to spew the defenses of a bogus war-for-oil, to "frame" the discussion with WMD while excluding war-for-oil.

    or maybe they are just stupid dumb s too embarrassed to admit dubya suckered them with WMD bull .
    I have always thought your insight on the true meaning of Iraq has been flawed. IF (big IF, depending on you thought process)the true motive is securing a large stake in the world's oil supply, then one could easily conclude its just the first step in a larger plan.

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    "just the first step in a larger plan."

    Maybe you missed it, but I posted a quote by a neo- that went roughly:

    "A lot of people want to invade Iraq, Real Men want Iran"

    Iraq is just the first domino to get "regime changed" in the neo- s' geo-petro-political world game plan to grab oil. The lies from dubya and hed about Iran, esp the nuke/WMD, follow exactly the template of their Iraq lies.

    If VZ's oil was cheaper to extract and refine, then VZ would be the next domino, being the USA's hemisphere. Chavez nationalizing the oilcos, destroying the VZ cons ution, installing himself for life gives the US neo- s pretexts to grab VZ oil and re-privatze it, just like they intended to do in Iraq.

    The war on terra is a convenient smokescreen that obscures perfectly (at least for the dumb , sheeple, rabble) into the neo- s fantasies.

    Sounds like you'e been "framed".
    Last edited by boutons_; 11-20-2007 at 03:52 PM.

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    Fair enough. I was thinking a bit bigger, though.

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    Oh, golly, gee. GGA, is slamming me again. He is going to
    really, really hurt my feelings on of these days.

    Anyhow, GGA, you have boutons on your side. What more could
    you want?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Oh, golly, gee. GGA, is slamming me again. He is going to
    really, really hurt my feelings on of these days.

    Anyhow, GGA, you have boutons on your side. What more could
    you want?

    how many more times do you have to hear that there are no wmds? no slam just a question.

    as far as having boutons on my side you may to want to include about 70% of the population being on my side as well.

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    how many more times do you have to hear that there are no wmds? no slam just a question.

    as far as having boutons on my side you may to want to include about 70% of the population being on my side as well.
    How many times do you need to hear that he used WMD's?
    And who cares who is on your side.

    Oh, I know, those Kurds just lay down and died of
    natural causes. And Iran was just BS'ing us. Yeah. He
    didn't have WMD. He did, but what did he do with them.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    How many times do you need to hear that he used WMD's?
    And who cares who is on your side.

    Oh, I know, those Kurds just lay down and died of
    natural causes. And Iran was just BS'ing us. Yeah. He
    didn't have WMD. He did, but what did he do with them.

    in 1988..

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    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
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    I still want to know what he did with them. Do you have
    the answer to that? Thought not.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I still want to know what he did with them. Do you have
    the answer to that? Thought not.

    he destroyed them. can you prove he didn't?

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    ^^Can you prove he did?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    ^^Can you prove he did?
    he didn't have any.

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    ^^

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    back to the topic: no matter how you stack it, this administration is chocked full of liars.

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    and now it's safe to say that bush lied about wmd's. but why do so many still believe his lies?

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    and the CIA leak was just the cover lie to camouflage the real lie which was Niger. so they did what liberals knew they did. the only suckers are conservative americans. i guess that's why their herd is thinning.

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    I still want to know what he did with them. Do you have
    the answer to that? Thought not.
    Chemical and biological weapons have a shelf life. Any warheads produced in the late '80s or early '90s would have been useless by 2003.

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    Chemical and biological weapons have a shelf life. Any warheads produced in the late '80s or early '90s would have been useless by 2003.
    That depends on what they were, and he had precursors too. Precursors have a much longer shelf life. They are prepared in advance to make fresh agents when needed.

    Point is, agreements were made for an accountable disposition at the end of the Gulf War. No accounting was made on a huge number of known weapons. Intelligence does have shipments made outside of Iraq.

    Not my fault the UN was such a pussy in enforcement, but we weren't.

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    The US can't even account for the money and guns it sent to Iraq after the invasion and occupation.

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    Funny how the only valid news media with the story is CBS (most liberal) and the remaining articles with the quote are mostly blogs. Doesn't Yoni get criticised allot for blog material?

    For the Benifit of History

    Dan, you had too many quote marks. The whole thing is one continuous section:

    The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.

    There was one problem. It was not true.

    I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President's chief of staff, and the President himself.
    Now please notice that he says they were "involved." Of course they were involved. They were involved in the inquiries, right... They may have unkowingly passed false information to McClellan... right...

    That's right people, learn to read, and keep out your personal biases. It does not implicate any wrongdoing. It does not mean they were aware of the facts that later came out.

    This is likely no more than hype, a typical way to catch readers attention to buy the book.

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    ok, back to topic.

    so, is it safe to say that people in this administration are pathological liars?

    the fact that they lied all along is no surprise.

    2 soldiers died today so that some oil executive could buy a 35K umbrella stand.

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    Valarie Plame responds to McClellan's revelations

    Nov. 20, 2007 10pm EST

    Santa Fe, New Mexico --
    I am outraged to learn that former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan confirms that he was sent out to lie to the press corps and the American public about two senior White House officials, Karl Rove and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby who deliberately and recklessly revealed my iden y as a covert CIA operations officer. Even more shocking, McClellan confirms that not only Karl Rove and Scooter Libby told him to lie but Vice President Cheney, Presidential Chief of Staff Andrew Card, and President Bush also ordered McClellan to issue his misleading statement. Unfortunately, President Bush's commutation of Scooter Libby's felony sentence has short-circuited justice.

    Vice President Cheney in particular knew that Scooter Libby was involved because he had ordered and directed his actions. McClellan's revelations provide important support for our civil suit against those who violated our national security and maliciously destroyed my career
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    Short-circuited justice indeed - in fact the whole Bush-crime-family has been absolved of any responsibility for any of their crimes against the state what-so-eva...that alone should be enough to send any real Ron Paul supporter scurrying for his wallet...

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    Not surprising that FauxNews Fox & Fakes didn't even mention in this morning. Damn hypocrites!!

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