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    The Housing bust, a looming credit crunch and years of unofficial dollar hyper-inflation could lead to a serious recession in 08, if not outright depression, or more optimistically, several years of sluggish growth that could amount to a $2 trillion dollar hit on the economy....

    The Economy's $2 Trillion Worry

    The subprime spread continues: A Goldman Sachs report says the overall impact of mortgage losses on economic activity could be huge

    Just a few months ago, analysts believed the collapse of subprime mortgage securities and related investments would lead to losses of $50 billion to $100 billion, a large but manageable number. Now, a new report from Goldman Sachs (GS) says losses from subprime exposure could be much larger than recently assumed, hitting as much as $400 billion. But that's not the extent of the financial carnage: Goldman said the full impact on the economy could be even more substantial, because the losses could compel banks and other lenders to curtail lending by as much as $2 trillion.

    If banks trim their lending by that amount, consumers and businesses won't be able to borrow the money they need to maintain strong economic expansion. "This is a large shock. It corresponds to 7% of the total debt owed by U.S. nonfinancial sectors," wrote Goldman Senior Economist Jan Hatzius, the author of the report. "The drag on economic activity could be substantial."

    Doing the Math

    How does a $400 billion loss in the credit markets translate into $2 trillion of economic damage? The answer is debt, or leverage. Banks, hedge funds, and private equity firms often borrow $10 or more for each $1 of equity they use in a transaction, according to estimates by the New York Federal Reserve. When the investments pan out, the use of debt boosts their return. When the investments go south, the use of debt exacerbates the loss and often leads lenders to be more conservative in the future.

    Citing a recent analysis by Tobias Adrian of the New York Fed and Hyun Song Shin of Princeton University in the Goldman report, Hatzius estimated about half the $400 billion in losses will fall on the shoulders of highly leveraged investors such as banks, hedge funds, and brokers. He said they typically cut back on lending when the value of their assets falls, to maintain their targeted ratios of capital to loans. If those lenders take half of the $400 billion hit, they will have to reduce lending at a rate of $10 for every $1 of loss, which would add up to $2 trillion.

    Mounting Losses

    The subprime crisis already has hit investment banks hard. Merrill Lynch (MER) reported a loss of $8.4 billion (BusinessWeek.com, 11/15/07), and analysts think more could be on the way. Citigroup (C) reported a loss of $6.5 billion in the third quarter, and says it could lose as much as $11 billion more in the fourth (BusinessWeek.com, 11/13/07). If banks cut back on lending, the damage could spread to other parts of the economy. The default rate on corporate debt (BusinessWeek.com, 10/26/07) could rise if corporations can't borrow more money to roll over their debt.

    Other market experts agree that mounting losses in the credit markets could compel banks to roll back lending. "The real issue is how much of the losses in the credit markets are leveraged and what that means to banks, which might have to reduce lending to keep their capital ratios," says Martin Senn, chief investment officer of Zurich Financial Services (ZURN), which manages about $200 billion in assets. "If banks are forced to cut back on lending…, that could become a serious stress on the U.S. economy. I see the risk of recession in the U.S. definitely rising."

    For the moment, Zurich Financial Services is still forecasting the U.S. economy will grow in 2008, albeit at a much slower rate, about 2%. That's about half the pace of the third quarter.

    Damaging Time Frame

    The extent of the damage will depend on a variety of factors, such as the speed with which the projected $400 billion in losses are realized. If the losses are realized in one year, the shock could trigger "a substantial recession," according to Hatzius. If they occur over a period of two to four years, the result could be "very sluggish growth." It's possible the damage could be offset by unexpected strength in other parts of the economy, or by government intervention.

    But it's also possible the economic effects of the credit crunch could be compounded by other problems. "Oil prices are a huge risk. If it stays at $100 a barrel, the economy is in pretty bad shape," says Joe LaVorgna, chief U.S. economist at Deutsche Bank (DB). He still thinks the economy can avoid recession. But credit-driven fears "are in the market." He adds that high oil prices (BusinessWeek.com, 11/14/07) could shave an additional 1.5 percentage points of growth from the economy.

    Not so long ago, some analysts were quick to write off the problems in the credit market as a case of the summer doldrums. They hoped the markets would come back to life after Labor Day, and when the Fed cut interest rates in September, it seemed they might be right. However, the hope for a quick fix has faded like memories of the beach.
    Rosenbush is a senior writer for BusinessWeek.com in New York.

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    The Panic of 2008...

    Forecast: U.S. dollar could plunge 90 pct
    Published: Nov. 19, 2007 at 2:16 PM

    RHINEBECK, N.Y., Nov. 19 (UPI) --
    A financial crisis will likely send the U.S. dollar into a free fall of as much as 90 percent and gold soaring to $2,000 an ounce, a trends researcher said.

    "We are going to see economic times the likes of which no living person has seen," Trends Research Ins ute Director Gerald Celente said, forecasting a "Panic of 2008."

    "The bigger they are, the harder they'll fall," he said in an interview with New York's Hudson Valley Business Journal.

    Celente -- who forecast the subprime mortgage financial crisis and the dollar's decline a year ago and gold's current rise in May -- told the newspaper the subprime mortgage meltdown was just the first "small, high-risk segment of the market" to collapse.

    Derivative dealers, hedge funds, buyout firms and other market players will also unravel, he said.

    Massive corporate losses, such as those recently posted by Citigroup Inc. and General Motors Corp., will also be fairly common "for some time to come," he said.


    He said he would not "be surprised if giants tumble to their deaths," Celente said.

    The Panic of 2008 will lead to a lower U.S. standard of living, he said.

    A result will be a drop in holiday spending a year from now, followed by a permanent end of the "retail holiday frenzy" that has driven the U.S. economy since the 1940s, he said.
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    I wonder if Dubai will force Citibank to pay outrageous late fees if they are late on a interest payment?

    Yesterday, Don Kohn, number two man at the Fed, told the world that America's central bank would be "flexible and pragmatic."...People knew what that meant. The Fed is prepared to cut rates next month. So encouraged by this were investors that they set about buying every stock in sight. The Dow rose 331 points. That brings the total to 546 points gained in the last two days. Not bad...
    But let us look at what is happening. The Fed funds rate is 4.5%. Investors now imagine that a 50 basis point cut is coming. That will take the signal rate down to 4%. But in this instance, the Fed will not be leading…it will be following. The 10-year note already yields less than 4%. Bonds have been falling since June. They are just another of the many signs of deflation - of a draining away of credit, cash - liquidity - from the markets.

    In other words, now the Fed is no longer driving inflation

    …it is trailing along behind deflation, trying to keep up with it.

    We indented that last sentence, because we didn't want you to miss it; we are so proud of it. Remember it. Quote it to your friends. To put it another way…the Fed is no longer pulling on the string…it is pushing on it. In offering money at 4% (just a hypothesis) it will only be catching up to what investors have already been doing.

    Now, it's private lenders who are doing the pulling. They're reluctant to lend into the open market; because they fear they won't get their money back. But they're happy to lend to the U.S. government. Spreads are widening - always a sign of a tightening credit market....For example, Citibank got itself into subprime trouble and needs big money, fast. So, it turned to Abu Dhabi. But the Arabs wanted a lot more than the T-note rate. They wanted a pound of flesh - forcing one of America's leading financial ins utions to pay a rate normally associated with third world holes and first world shysters - 11%....

    Houses are selling at their slowest rate in eight years, Bloomberg reports. In California, sales are down 40% from a year ago.

    And here's more from Bloomberg:

    "The worst U.S. housing recession in 16 years will drive down property values by $1.2 trillion next year and slash tax revenue by more than $6.6 billion, according to a report by the U.S. Conference of Mayors… 'The real estate crisis of 2007 and 2008 will go down in the record books… The wave of foreclosures that has rippled across the U.S. has already battered some of our largest financial ins utions, created ghost towns of once vibrant neighborhoods - and it's not over yet.'"

    No, it's not over yet. In some ways, it has barely begun…because the knee-bone of consumer spending is still connected to the thigh-bone of house prices, which is still connected to the hip-bone of mortgage credit. And if one of these bones breaks, the economy stops walking forward and falls on its face.

    That is what we think is happening.

    There's a greater than 50% probability that the financial system "will come to a grinding halt because of losses from mortgages said Gregory Peters, Head of Credit Strategy at Morgan Stanley (NYSE:MS)....Well…yes…the ankle bone is connected to the shin bone. That's the way it works. You can't take $1.2 trillion out of the consumer economy, without consumers feeling it...And now the Fed is rushing to try to put the money back in. Alas, it is not that easy. Japan's central bank tried it for 17 years.

    And America is in a much tighter spot than Japan. With a very positive trade balance, and abundant savings, the Japanese had room to maneuver. Not so the United States. Investors have already shown what they could do to the dollar. Let the Fed cut rates more and there could be a bloodbath in the currency markets…forcing spreads even wider, and pushing the U.S. economy into an even deeper crisis.
    The Day of Reckoning

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    Crashing Citigroup
    By PAM MARTENS


    The saga of how the top minds in Washington and on Wall Street have dealt with the deepening financial crisis in the U.S. would make a great Hollywood screenplay, except for this: it's absurdly unbelievable.

    Storyline: The largest bank in the United States (by assets), Citigroup, is discovered to have stashed away over $80 Billion of Byzantine securities off its balance sheet in secretive Cayman Islands vehicles with an impenetrable curtain around them. Citigroup calls this black hole a Structured Investment Vehicle or SIV. Wall Street insiders call it a "sieve" that is linked to the breakdown in trading of debt instruments around the globe and the erosion of wealth in assets as diverse as stock prices to home values. Additionally, tens of billions of dollars in short term commercial paper backed by these and similar Alice in Wonderland assets are sitting in Mom and Pop money market funds at the largest financial ins utions in America, with a AAA rating from our renown credit rating agencies.

    Setting: Picture the anic shortly after it crashed into the iceberg. Imagine that its officers want to pretend to all its passengers and crew and investors that there is no serious damage because the giant floating Citi did not really hit an iceberg; it just hit a wall of worry. It will be able to right itself in no time at all as long as everyone remains calm. Even though the lavishly appointed ship is dangerously listing (stock price fading daily) it says it can stay afloat by an ingenious bailout plan. Everyone just needs to walk calmly to the dining room, collect a tea cup, and pitch in with the bailout.

    This is effectively what the U.S. Treasury has anointed as a game plan: Citigroup, the gargantuan and troubled bank, will be bailed out by virtue of all of its smaller compe ors chipping in some money to a SuperSIV, a kind of Big Daddy Black Hole whose details are apparently too scary to release to the public. These are the very same compe ors who lost market share to Citigroup because Federal regulators allowed it to grow fat and sassy by playing dirty, including collecting massive fees for hiding debt for bankrupt Enron, WorldCom and Italian dairy giant, Parmalat.

    Flash Forward: The Federal regulators are busy attempting to restore confidence on the slippery deck of the listing craft. The U.S. Mint has just released a bronze coin celebrating the newly elected (albeit reluctant) Chairman of Citigroup, Robert Rubin, for his days as U.S. Treasury Secretary. [2] No mention on the flip side of the coin that Rubin was one of the cheerleaders who helped win the repeal of the depression era, investor protection legislation called the Glass-Steagall Act. Without that repeal, Citigroup would not exist; nor would its current threat to the financial infrastructure of our country. No mention, either, that Rubin went from government service to Citigroup's board and has collected tens of millions in compensation for a job that did not involve a lot of sweat.

    The small brass band on the deck of Citigroup has just been revved up to a big orchestra with Federal Reserve Board Chairman, Ben Bernanke, as Maestro. According to Bloomberg News, invitations have gone out to 16 financial ins utions offering a personal, one-hour audience with Chairman Bernanke, ostensibly as the grand prize for chipping in to the SuperSIV bailout fund. (I'm visualizing a new commemorative bronze coin from the U.S. Mint that we can pass down to our children in lieu of a real currency with value. It would be inscribed: "The Shock and Awe of Crony-Capitalists: While We Were Looking for Foreign Threats in Mountainous Caves, Our Own Crony-Capitalists, In Broad Daylight and In Full View of Congress, Flew Our Largest Bank Into the World's Largest Economy and Crashed Both to Smithereens." )

    Fade to Citigroup Set: Inside Citigroup, it's business as usual. The ousted CEO, Chuck Prince, who had to own up to approximately $17 billion in write downs and Cayman Islands' black holes, is receiving a bon voyage package that includes a performance bonus of $12.5 million, salary and stock holdings of $68 million, a $1.7 million pension, an office, car and driver for up to five years. And Citigroup, clueless as to what its own assets are really worth, is putting out research recommendations daily to investors, advising them what other companies are worth. On November 16, it said it particularly likes bank stocks (those en ies with billions of dollars of Citigroup toxic waste in their money market funds).

    Back to the Scene on the anic. We have thousands of opulently clad people pouring tea cups of opaque, muddy water from the giant craft when someone wants to know why the Captain isn't there helping out. (The original captain, Sandy Weill, left early in the voyage via a lifeboat loaded with lots of provisions, a rolodex of criminal defense lawyers, and approximately a billion dollars.) It turns out that the new bronze coin captain, Robert Rubin, is not on deck bailing water because he has better things to oversee. He's watching his dangerously listing ship load aboard a bunch of hapless, new passengers from a small ship that came alongside. That's right. Citigroup, barely able to keep its own head above water, pay its dividend, shore up its capital, and regain the confidence of shareholders, has joined with other investors to spend $6.3 Billion on a British water company, Kelda Group Plc. [3]

    And while underwater Citigroup buys water, what, you might ask, is Congress doing about the millions of struggling homeowners across America who were tricked into land-mind mortgages by predatory lenders like Citigroup's CitiFinancial and are facing imminent foreclosures on their homes. [4] [5] Congress is also fiddling rather than bringing strong legislative action against its biggest campaign contributors.

    Like I said, it's just too preposterous for a movie; but it's the tragic new reality of Crony-Capitalist-Owned America.
    Pam Martens worked on Wall Street for 21 years; she has no securities position, long or short, in any company mentioned in this article. She writes on public interest issues from New Hampshire.

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    Excellent video on the economic state of union:

    We Can't Make It Here Anymore

    Pssssssssssttttttttttt...................do something!

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    The sky is falling!!! ahhhhhh

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    2008-10 probably will be a sharp recession. Of course Hillary will be blamed.

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    well, bush was blamed for the 02 recession that started under bill clinton.

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    2008-10 probably will be a sharp recession. Of course Hillary will be blamed.

    Book it! Whenever the bill comes due you can bet your ass that the talk radio corwd will in int on every democrat they can..

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    Book it! Whenever the bill comes due you can bet your ass that the talk radio corwd will in int on every democrat they can..
    And since people vote their pocketbook, the Reps will take back Congress in 2010.

    I don't know what happens past 2010. By then, the Euro will probably be worth $2 or more, and will be well on the way to supplanting the $ as the global reserve currency.

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    And since people vote their pocketbook, the Reps will take back Congress in 2010.

    I don't know what happens past 2010. By then, the Euro will probably be worth $2 or more, and will be well on the way to supplanting the $ as the global reserve currency.


    They then will FINALLY will get their Marriage Amendment..!!! Never gets old attacking sexuals and their lifestyles!!!

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    come on, people, where's your infinite trust and good will?

    It's the "Free Market" working its magic, aka, the winners win big, the losers are destroyed. Good ol' economic/social Darwinism.

    "Greed is good"

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    come on, people, where's your infinite trust and good will?

    It's the "Free Market" working its magic, aka, the winners win big, the losers are destroyed. Good ol' economic/social Darwinism.

    "Greed is good"

    You are correct boutons. I should just trust the free market to cure everything.

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    What President will they put on the 2 trillion dollar bill? And how will they have room for all those zeroes?

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    What President will they put on the 2 trillion dollar bill? And how will they have room for all those zeroes?

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    Book it! Whenever the bill comes due you can bet your ass that the talk radio corwd will in int on every democrat they can..
    Give me a ing break dude. You guys will blame Reps for every ing thing that happens for the next 5000 years. Conservatives own you guys at Talk Radio so that is understandable. What will Hillary do to improve the economy? Raise taxes? Implement her socialist bull ?

    Conservatives know how to get rich or die trying.

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    Give me a ing break dude. You guys will blame Reps for every ing thing that happens for the next 5000 years.

    Conservatives know how to get rich or die trying.
    When Republicans blame Democrats and vice versa, it reminds of that commerical where the Coca-Cola Zero guys want to sue Coca-Cola for "taste infringement."

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    Give me a ing break dude. You guys will blame Reps for every ing thing that happens for the next 5000 years. Conservatives own you guys at Talk Radio so that is understandable. What will Hillary do to improve the economy? Raise taxes? Implement her socialist bull ?

    Conservatives know how to get rich or die trying.

    if someone's at fault they should bear the consequences. agree or not?when the bill comes due the administration that caused the problem won't get the balme but the resident dems will.. how hard is that to comprehend?

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    if someone's at fault they should bear the consequences. agree or not?when the bill comes due the administration that caused the problem won't get the balme but the resident dems will.. how hard is that to comprehend?
    One thing the power brokers can count on, as they manipulate the economy to enrich themselves at everybody else's expense, is that a lot of people will blame one political party or the other for their hardships, when in reality the same power brokers control both parties.

    This is useful, because a Democratic voter will figure that if enough Democrats get voted into office, his hardships will be allayed. The Republican voter will think along those same lines.

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    One thing the power brokers can count on, as they manipulate the economy to enrich themselves at everybody else's expense, is that a lot of people will blame one political party or the other for their hardships, when in reality the same power brokers control both parties.

    This is useful, because a Democratic voter will figure that if enough Democrats get voted into office, his hardships will be allayed. The Republican voter will think along those same lines.

    The elite enrich themsleves regardless of party affiliation.. I can agree with that.

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    come on, people, where's your infinite trust and good will?

    It's the "Free Market" working its magic, aka, the winners win big, the losers are destroyed. Good ol' economic/social Darwinism.

    "Greed is good"
    For goodness sake don't lay the blame where it belongs.
    On the steps of the ever loving liberal Congress who
    pressured the lenders into loaning this money to
    poor risk.

    They haven't in many cases lost anything anyhow. Many
    got into homes with nothing down and low closing cost
    and negative principle type loans. Not only that they
    have to pay rent, ie, payments, for a roof over their
    head to begin with. So spare me the tears of agony for
    these poor souls. They got their chance and could not
    afford the freight. Life is not fair, and anyone who thinks
    it is or should be, I have a bridge I will sell you with
    very low payments.

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    For goodness sake don't lay the blame where it belongs.
    On the steps of the ever loving liberal Congress who
    pressured the lenders into loaning this money to
    poor risk.

    They haven't in many cases lost anything anyhow. Many
    got into homes with nothing down and low closing cost
    and negative principle type loans. Not only that they
    have to pay rent, ie, payments, for a roof over their
    head to begin with. So spare me the tears of agony for
    these poor souls. They got their chance and could not
    afford the freight. Life is not fair, and anyone who thinks
    it is or should be, I have a bridge I will sell you with
    very low payments.

    liberal congress? all of this happened since last year?

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    Impending Destruction of the US Economy

    By Paul Craig Roberts

    11/28/07 "ICH" -- --- Hubris and arrogance are too ensconced in Washington for policymakers to be aware of the economic policy trap in which they have placed the US economy. If the subprime mortgage meltdown is half as bad as predicted, low US interest rates will be required in order to contain the crisis. But if the dollar’s plight is half as bad as predicted, high US interest rates will be required if foreigners are to continue to hold dollars and to finance US budget and trade deficits.

    Which will Washington sacrifice, the domestic financial system and over-extended homeowners or its ability to finance deficits?


    The answer seems obvious. Everything will be sacrificed in order to protect Washington’s ability to borrow abroad. Without the ability to borrow abroad, Washington cannot conduct its wars of aggression, and Americans cannot continue to consume $800 billion dollars more each year than the economy produces.

    A few years ago the euro was worth 85 cents. Today it is worth $1.48. This is an enormous decline in the exchange value of the US dollar. Foreigners who finance the US budget and trade deficits have experienced a huge drop in the value of their dollar holdings. The interest rate on US Treasury bonds does not come close to compensating foreigners for the decline in the value of the dollar against other traded currencies. Investment returns from real estate and equities do not offset the losses from the decline in the dollar’s value.

    China holds over one trillion dollars, and Japan almost one trillion, in dollar-denominated assets. Other countries have lesser but still substantial amounts. As the US dollar is the reserve currency, the entire world’s investment portfolio is over-weighted in dollars.

    No country wants to hold a depreciating asset, and no country wants to acquire more depreciating assets.
    In order to reassure itself, Wall Street claims that foreign countries are locked into ac ulating dollars in order to protect the value of their existing dollar holdings. But this is utter nonsense. The US dollar has lost 60% of its value during the current administration. Obviously, countries are not locked into ac ulating dollars.

    The reason the dollar has not completely collapsed is that there is no clear alternative as reserve currency. The euro is a currency without a country. It is the monetary unit of the European Union, but the countries of Europe have not surrendered their sovereignty to the EU. Moreover, the UK, a member of the EU, retains the British pound. The fact that a currency as politically exposed as the euro can rise in value so rapidly against the US dollar is powerful evidence of the weakness of the US dollar.

    Japan and China have willingly ac ulated dollars as the counterpart of their penetration and capture of US domestic markets. Japan and China have viewed the productive capacity and wealth created in their domestic economies by the success of their exports as compensation for the decline in the value of their dollar holdings. However, both countries have seen the writing on the wall, ignored by Washington and American economists: By offshoring production for US markets, the US has no prospect of closing its trade deficit. The offshored production of US firms counts as imports when it returns to the US to be marketed. The more US production moves abroad, the less there is to export and the higher imports rise.

    Japan and China, indeed, the entire world, realize that they cannot continue forever to give Americans real goods and services in exchange for depreciating paper dollars. China is endeavoring to turn its development inward and to rely on its potentially huge domestic market. Japan is pinning hopes on participating in Asia’s economic development.

    The dollar’s decline has resulted from foreigners ac ulating new dollars at a lower rate. They still ac ulate dollars, but fewer. As new dollars are still being produced at high rates, their value has dropped.

    If foreigners were to stop ac ulating new dollars, the dollar’s value would plummet. If foreigners were to reduce their existing holdings of dollars, superpower America would instantly disappear.

    Foreigners have continued to ac ulate dollars in the expectation that sooner or later Washington would address its trade and budget deficits. However, now these deficits seem to have passed the point of no return.

    The sharp decline in the dollar has not closed the trade deficit by increasing exports and decreasing imports. Offshoring prevents the possibility of exports reducing the trade deficit, and Americans are now dependent on imports (including offshored production) for which there are no longer any domestically produced alternatives. The US trade deficit will close when foreigners cease to finance it.

    The budget deficit cannot be closed by taxation without driving up unemployment and poverty. American median family incomes have experienced no real increase during the 21st century. Moreover, if the huge bonuses paid to CEOs for offshoring their corporations’ production and to Wall Street for marketing subprime derivatives are removed from the income figures, Americans have experienced a decline in real income. Some studies, such as the Economic Mobility Project, find long-term declines in the real median incomes of some US population groups and a decline in upward mobility.

    The situation may be even more dire. Recent work by Susan Houseman concludes that US statistical data systems, which were set in place prior to the development of offshoring, are counting some foreign production as part of US productivity and GDP growth, thus overstating the actual performance of the US economy.

    The falling dollar has pushed oil to $100 a barrel, which in turn will drive up other prices. The falling dollar means that the imports and offshored production on which Americans are dependent will rise in price. This is not a formula to produce a rise in US real incomes.

    In the 21st century, the US economy has been driven by consumers going deeper in debt. Consumption fueled by increases in indebtedness received its greatest boost from Fed chairman Alan Greenspan’s low interest rate policy. Greenspan covered up the adverse effects of offshoring on the US economy by engineering a housing boom. The boom created employment in construction and financial firms and pushed up home prices, thus creating equity for consumers to spend to keep consumer demand growing.

    This source of US economic growth is exhausted and imploding. The full consequences of the housing bust remain to be realized. American consumers lack discretionary income and can pay higher taxes only by reducing their consumption. The service industries, which have provided the only source of new jobs in the 21st century, are already experiencing falling demand. A tax increase would cause widespread distress.

    As John Maynard Keynes and his followers made clear, a tax increase on a recessionary economy is a recipe for falling tax revenues as well as economic hardship.

    Superpower America is a ship of fools in denial of their plight. While offshoring kills American economic prospects, “free market economists” sing its praises. While war imposes enormous costs on a bankrupt country, neoconservatives call for more war, and Republicans and Democrats appropriate war funds which can only be obtained by borrowing abroad.

    By focusing America on war in the Middle East, the purpose of which is to guarantee Israel’s territorial expansion, the executive and legislative branches, along with the media, have let slip the last opportunities the US had to put its financial house in order. We have arrived at the point where it is no longer bold to say that nothing now can be done. Unless the rest of the world decides to underwrite our economic rescue, the chips will fall where they may.

    End

    Dr. Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury for Economic Policy in the Reagan administration. He is credited with curing stagflation and eliminating “Phillips curve” trade-offs between employment and inflation, an achievement now on the verge of being lost by the worst economic mismanagement in US history.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse....icle18787.htm#

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    Dammit, I wish these commie/pinko/hippy doom-peddlars would shut the up so we can just con-job our way past the graveyard.

    Will the Masters of the Universe who created this mess have the mastery to fix it? I'm sure they don't give a , because they've made their $Bs and are fully insulated from any financial hardship of the general economy, like the insulation of $38B in 2007-year-end bonuses to financial ins utions, even as those financial ins utions stocks' lost $70B+ in value.
    Last edited by boutons_; 11-30-2007 at 05:35 PM.

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    Impending Destruction of the US Economy

    By Paul Craig Roberts

    11/28/07 "ICH" -- --- Hubris and arrogance are too ensconced in Washington for policymakers to be aware of the economic policy trap in which they have placed the US economy. If the subprime mortgage meltdown is half as bad as predicted, low US interest rates will be required in order to contain the crisis. But if the dollar’s plight is half as bad as predicted, high US interest rates will be required if foreigners are to continue to hold dollars and to finance US budget and trade deficits.

    Which will Washington sacrifice, the domestic financial system and over-extended homeowners or its ability to finance deficits?


    The answer seems obvious. Everything will be sacrificed in order to protect Washington’s ability to borrow abroad. Without the ability to borrow abroad, Washington cannot conduct its wars of aggression, and Americans cannot continue to consume $800 billion dollars more each year than the economy produces.

    A few years ago the euro was worth 85 cents. Today it is worth $1.48. This is an enormous decline in the exchange value of the US dollar. Foreigners who finance the US budget and trade deficits have experienced a huge drop in the value of their dollar holdings. The interest rate on US Treasury bonds does not come close to compensating foreigners for the decline in the value of the dollar against other traded currencies. Investment returns from real estate and equities do not offset the losses from the decline in the dollar’s value.

    China holds over one trillion dollars, and Japan almost one trillion, in dollar-denominated assets. Other countries have lesser but still substantial amounts. As the US dollar is the reserve currency, the entire world’s investment portfolio is over-weighted in dollars.

    No country wants to hold a depreciating asset, and no country wants to acquire more depreciating assets.
    In order to reassure itself, Wall Street claims that foreign countries are locked into ac ulating dollars in order to protect the value of their existing dollar holdings. But this is utter nonsense. The US dollar has lost 60% of its value during the current administration. Obviously, countries are not locked into ac ulating dollars.

    The reason the dollar has not completely collapsed is that there is no clear alternative as reserve currency. The euro is a currency without a country. It is the monetary unit of the European Union, but the countries of Europe have not surrendered their sovereignty to the EU. Moreover, the UK, a member of the EU, retains the British pound. The fact that a currency as politically exposed as the euro can rise in value so rapidly against the US dollar is powerful evidence of the weakness of the US dollar.

    Japan and China have willingly ac ulated dollars as the counterpart of their penetration and capture of US domestic markets. Japan and China have viewed the productive capacity and wealth created in their domestic economies by the success of their exports as compensation for the decline in the value of their dollar holdings. However, both countries have seen the writing on the wall, ignored by Washington and American economists: By offshoring production for US markets, the US has no prospect of closing its trade deficit. The offshored production of US firms counts as imports when it returns to the US to be marketed. The more US production moves abroad, the less there is to export and the higher imports rise.

    Japan and China, indeed, the entire world, realize that they cannot continue forever to give Americans real goods and services in exchange for depreciating paper dollars. China is endeavoring to turn its development inward and to rely on its potentially huge domestic market. Japan is pinning hopes on participating in Asia’s economic development.

    The dollar’s decline has resulted from foreigners ac ulating new dollars at a lower rate. They still ac ulate dollars, but fewer. As new dollars are still being produced at high rates, their value has dropped.

    If foreigners were to stop ac ulating new dollars, the dollar’s value would plummet. If foreigners were to reduce their existing holdings of dollars, superpower America would instantly disappear.

    Foreigners have continued to ac ulate dollars in the expectation that sooner or later Washington would address its trade and budget deficits. However, now these deficits seem to have passed the point of no return.

    The sharp decline in the dollar has not closed the trade deficit by increasing exports and decreasing imports. Offshoring prevents the possibility of exports reducing the trade deficit, and Americans are now dependent on imports (including offshored production) for which there are no longer any domestically produced alternatives. The US trade deficit will close when foreigners cease to finance it.

    The budget deficit cannot be closed by taxation without driving up unemployment and poverty. American median family incomes have experienced no real increase during the 21st century. Moreover, if the huge bonuses paid to CEOs for offshoring their corporations’ production and to Wall Street for marketing subprime derivatives are removed from the income figures, Americans have experienced a decline in real income. Some studies, such as the Economic Mobility Project, find long-term declines in the real median incomes of some US population groups and a decline in upward mobility.

    The situation may be even more dire. Recent work by Susan Houseman concludes that US statistical data systems, which were set in place prior to the development of offshoring, are counting some foreign production as part of US productivity and GDP growth, thus overstating the actual performance of the US economy.

    The falling dollar has pushed oil to $100 a barrel, which in turn will drive up other prices. The falling dollar means that the imports and offshored production on which Americans are dependent will rise in price. This is not a formula to produce a rise in US real incomes.

    In the 21st century, the US economy has been driven by consumers going deeper in debt. Consumption fueled by increases in indebtedness received its greatest boost from Fed chairman Alan Greenspan’s low interest rate policy. Greenspan covered up the adverse effects of offshoring on the US economy by engineering a housing boom. The boom created employment in construction and financial firms and pushed up home prices, thus creating equity for consumers to spend to keep consumer demand growing.

    This source of US economic growth is exhausted and imploding. The full consequences of the housing bust remain to be realized. American consumers lack discretionary income and can pay higher taxes only by reducing their consumption. The service industries, which have provided the only source of new jobs in the 21st century, are already experiencing falling demand. A tax increase would cause widespread distress.

    As John Maynard Keynes and his followers made clear, a tax increase on a recessionary economy is a recipe for falling tax revenues as well as economic hardship.

    Superpower America is a ship of fools in denial of their plight. While offshoring kills American economic prospects, “free market economists” sing its praises. While war imposes enormous costs on a bankrupt country, neoconservatives call for more war, and Republicans and Democrats appropriate war funds which can only be obtained by borrowing abroad.

    By focusing America on war in the Middle East, the purpose of which is to guarantee Israel’s territorial expansion, the executive and legislative branches, along with the media, have let slip the last opportunities the US had to put its financial house in order. We have arrived at the point where it is no longer bold to say that nothing now can be done. Unless the rest of the world decides to underwrite our economic rescue, the chips will fall where they may.

    End

    Dr. Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury for Economic Policy in the Reagan administration. He is credited with curing stagflation and eliminating “Phillips curve” trade-offs between employment and inflation, an achievement now on the verge of being lost by the worst economic mismanagement in US history.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse....icle18787.htm#

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    Dammit, I wish these commie/pinko/hippy doom-peddlars woudl shut the up so we can just con-job our way past the graveyard.

    Will the Masters of the Universe who created this mess have the mastery to fix it? I'm sure they don't give , because they've made their $Bs and fully insulated from any financial hardship.

    That a boy boutons, keep quoting all the doom sayers.
    The sky is falling the sky is falling and it is all these
    big monied people who caused it.

    By the way, which big money company pays you
    your paycheck every payday? You do work don't you
    or are you one of the independent wealthy or a
    professional student?

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    They could always just employ what I always tell my Intro to Macroeconomics students... a fun little theory I developed in grad school that would always get a giggle in Monetary Policy classes.

    The (insert my last name here) Theorem:

    Given an unlimited credit supply, you should borrow infinitely to pay off old debts and fund new obligations with no need to ever generate income.
    The unfortunate part is that while I and my classmates and professors would joke around about this, dimwitted Politicians apparently think it’s a real strategy.

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