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    No lose situation for the Spurs. Either the Spurs win and laugh. Or the Spurs lose and can point at Duncan and possibly Manu.

    No Duncan? No Manu?

    No problem.

    Believe.


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    Tim to Tony to Manu! bdictjames's Avatar
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    Vaughn!!!

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    As noted elsewhere, Dallas' favorite NBA official, Bennett Salvatore, is scheduled to be the lead official tonight -- for whatever that's worth.

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    Spurs by 20

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    7:30 tip-off? What's the O/U on when the game ends? 11:00?

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    Awww! No Manu now? Well now I'm just going to the game to talk thrash to the Mav fans.

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    Awww! No Manu now? Well now I'm just going to the game to talk thrash to the Mav fans.
    Game time decision

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    win-win situation for the spurs. time to play small ball with the mavs. don't you just love these kind of games?

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    It's a lose/lose situation for Dallas tonight. You win it's because of no TD; you lose and you're a big bunch of pussies.

    I'm not even gonna bother watching.

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    manu not playing? it's time for Bonner to step up and throw down Dirk. (or Josh Howard)

    GO SPURS!!!

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    I don't expect a win at all. If Spurs lost, it won't be a big deal. 15-4 is a very nice start.

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    so... no love for our chances? i think Manu won;t play because Pop will play cautious... only if D-wash was here.. he might have gone crazy against them...

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    No lose situation for the Spurs. Either the Spurs win and laugh. Or the Spurs lose and can point at Duncan and possibly Manu.

    No Duncan? No Manu?

    No problem.

    Believe.

    Wait, so now teams ARE allowed to use players being out as an excuse? Because all I've heard for months is that the Suns fans were "whining" about Amare missing Game 5.

    If that's the case, I think I'll go ahead and note that the Spurs 2003 and 2007 championships were substantially assisted by the fact that their opposition were missing key players.

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    Look for Bonner to have a huge night and carry this team into the playoffs. He's going to show the Mavs how a real MVP handles bidness.

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    Wait, so now teams ARE allowed to use players being out as an excuse? Because all I've heard for months is that the Suns fans were "whining" about Amare missing Game 5.

    If that's the case, I think I'll go ahead and note that the Spurs 2003 and 2007 championships were substantially assisted by the fact that their opposition were missing key players.
    One day Mav and Mav Fan will recognize the difference between the regular season and the playoffs.

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    One day Mav and Mav Fan will recognize the difference between the regular season and the playoffs.
    What does this have to do with regular season and playoffs? It makes absolutely no difference when we're talking about whether or not it's "acceptable" to use a player being out as an excuse.

    Either a loss can be blamed on a player injury/suspension/whatever, or it can't. Unfortunately, San Antonio hypocrisy reigns supreme here. As far as I can tell, the rule is two-pronged:

    1) If a Spurs player is out, it's a viable excuse for losing
    2) If the opposing team's player is out, it's not an excuse

    Nice. Eerily similar to another oft-repeated mantra of "If the Spurs win, it's because of championship play; if they lose, it's because of the refs."

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    If that's the case, I think I'll go ahead and note that the Spurs 2003 and 2007 championships were substantially assisted by the fact that their opposition were missing key players.
    So, too, was the Mavs run to the West Finals in 2003.

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    So, too, was the Mavs run to the West Finals in 2003.
    Sure, if you're applying the articulated in the original post here.

    But remember, the rule only applies when Spurs fans say it does.

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    What does this have to do with regular season and playoffs? It makes absolutely no difference
    Congrats. You've solved the basis of all Mav ills.

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    Congrats. You've solved the basis of all Mav ills.
    Congratulations. You're quite apt at taking 2 sentences out of context and attempting to construe them in manner absolutely irrelevant to the original point. Are you a journalist, by chance?

    I'll take your blimp-launching tactics to mean you have absolutely no refute for me calling you and (some) of your brethren out on your laughable hypocrisy.

    Enjoy the game tonight--after all, it's a "win-win" situation for the Spurs, no? Got love that injury excuse being played before the game has even started.

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    Congratulations. You're quite apt at taking 2 sentences out of context and attempting to construe them in manner absolutely irrelevant to the original point. Are you a journalist, by chance?

    I'll take your blimp-launching tactics to mean you have absolutely no refute for me calling you and (some) of your brethren out on your laughable hypocrisy.

    Enjoy the game tonight--after all, it's a "win-win" situation for the Spurs, no? Got love that injury excuse being played before the game has even started.


    Okay, I'll be devastated when the Spurs lose. I mean, the season will be over. Advanced props on the victory. You are obviously a better fan of a better team.


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    I think that, in the sense that many Spurs fans generally believe that the regular season is a charade for elite teams and doesn't say much about what should be expected in a playoff matchup, timvp's point is fair.

    Had everyone been healthy for the Spurs tonight and the Mavs' won again, I don't know that many knowledgable Spurs fans would be jumping off bridges at the thought that a repeat was impossible. Anyone who knows anything about the Mavs and Spurs knows that the teams are disgustingly closely-matched and that one break here or there for either team could be the difference in a playoff series. With that, a regular season win in San Antonio over the Spurs is really irrelevant to determining what might happen in a playoff series, even if everyone's healthy in both instances. That's particularly true if Duncan is out for the Spurs (or if Dirk is out for the Mavs) and even more so if a secondary star like Manu is also out at the same time.

    Until the Mavericks show that they can rebound from their recent playoff flameouts, both of which seemed to raise some fair questions about what's between the ears and in the chests of the Mavericks' players, regular season success against the Big Bully doesn't mean much to outsiders -- and it really means little if Timmy D doesn't play.

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    If the Spurs manage to win this game then they obviously played the better game and deserved to win. If the Mavs win then they played the better game and deserved the win. It's a win-lose for both teams as one will win and one will lose. Although I have to think this game means a bit more to the Mavs given their losses to beatable teams and since they're a few games off pace in the division at the moment, and probably off pace of where they wanted to be by December 5th.

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    If the Spurs manage to win this game then they obviously played the better game and deserved to win. If the Mavs win then they played the better game and deserved the win. It's a win-lose for both teams as one will win and one will lose. Although I have to think this game means a bit more to the Mavs given their losses to beatable teams and since they're a few games off pace in the division at the moment, and probably off pace of where they wanted to be by December 5th.
    I'll go a step further and say that I think the Spurs-Mavs regular season matchups have meant more to the Mavs for a long time and particularly the last couple of seasons.

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    Ill go a step further in that, if the Spurs win, it gets some of the guy's confidence against them back, even though they won't admit it, AND, it helps in the division race.

    They would go up 4 games.

    Pretty decent margin in December.

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