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Oddly enough, he(Jackson) seemed to walk a number of times on a hop step last game. Manu does carry and travel a lot too, though.
The Lakers weren't as jubilant after a 107-92 loss Nov. 13 in San Antonio. They were in the game, and then they weren't, an 18-2 second-quarter run pushing the Spurs to an easy 107-92 win.
Tim Duncan had only five points on two-for-13 shooting, but defense-minded forward Bruce Bowen had 23 points and made all six of his three-point attempts. The Lakers helped the Spurs by committing 15 turnovers in the first half.
"It's a good test for us to see how much we've improved since the last time we played them," Kobe Bryant said. "We just weren't prepared in terms of our experience as a team and being able to go deeper into our offense to be able to combat what they do against us defensively. . . .
"But now we're much better prepared and more equipped. It's going to be a nice challenge."
The concept of beating the Spurs (17-4) brightened somewhat after the Golden State Warriors dropped them Tuesday, 96-84. Duncan missed a third consecutive game because of a sprained right ankle and is listed as questionable for tonight's game. Tony Parker has been playing with a sprained left ankle and is also questionable.
Manu Ginobili is not injured, which is good news for the Spurs. He had scored 37 points in two consecutive games before falling to 13 points on four-for-14 shooting against Golden State.
Jackson, who once irreverently referred to Bowen as "Edward Scissorhands" because of his aggressive hands-on defense, was only slightly more complimentary toward Ginobili.
"He walks every time he takes that drive," Jackson said. "It's the European walk. That makes the whole difference in the world, how far they can get on that step. He's terrific at it because he uses angles well, he's got great speed and he changes directions well."
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He's such a master at the backhanded compliment
Oddly enough, he(Jackson) seemed to walk a number of times on a hop step last game. Manu does carry and travel a lot too, though.
Sometimes, I think he travels, but I usually count two steps on the replays and am proved wrong.
All penetrators can be accused of getting away with a few travel calls though so I wouldn't single him out. Ask Parker, Wade, and Lebron.... more power to them if they earn the benefit of the doubt from being really adept at penetrating.
LeBron, not so much. Wade I see travel almost every time he spins.
Apart from Wade, i dont think theres a player in the league that gets away with more of those calls than LeBron.
I think you spurs fans know Zen's tactics. He is setting up the referees so they can keep an extra eye on how he operates during Today's game.
Personally, it's not only Ginobli who travels. Many superstars in the league, travel and carry. Kobe and Duncan seem to be the only true superstars out there who minimally break the rules.
WTF? Manu isn't even the player on the Spurs who gets away with the most walks. Thats Tony.
Yeh, PJ called him out during last year's game in San antonio. He was yelling during the game "That's a walk".
WTF? Manu isn't even the player on the Spurs who gets away with the most walks. Thats Tony.
This is why PJ is PJ. He is ultimate manipulator. He knows how to plays things in his favour.
Co-sign.
WTF? Manu isn't even the player on the Spurs who gets away with the most walks. Thats Tony.
How he gets away with that extra step on those spin moves, I'll never know.
As long as they don't get called, I say keep it up.
Its because he so quick while doing it. I mean, its all too easy to see the travel when you have different camera angles and instant replay, but when you're a ref paying attention to several things at once, a quick travel is hard to spot. Tony does it regularly, and he rarely gets called for it. Quickness I tell you, lightning quicknessCo-sign.
How he gets away with that extra step on those spin moves, I'll never know.
As long as they don't get called, I say keep it up.
Phil Jackson is playing again a "mind-control" game here.
He wants to put extra pressure on Manu and gives pe ion to the referees.
That's what George Karl did during the playoffs last season in order to limit Manu's drives.
But Ginobili overcame that anyways.
apparently, hop steps are allowed, again. i remember a few years back, the league ruled it illegal. manu takes long strides on his drives to the basket.Co-sign.
How he gets away with that extra step on those spin moves, I'll never know.
As long as they don't get called, I say keep it up.
90% or more players who does a spin move travels, it just isn't called in NBA. Same goes for fast breaks, where a player gets the ball and does 3 or sometimes 4 steps when they dunk. The most obvious with that is wade.
As far as I know the NBA was always "no-travelling" leauge
Co-sign the above. Parker travels all the time. Manu, amazingly enough, does not.
Exactly....historically when Jackson percieves a team as a potential threat to his success, he goes to the mind games card. He did it with the Knicks in the 90's and has done it toward the Spurs this decade.
It would be stupid to say Phil is scared but doing this acknowledges the fact that he recognizes that the Spurs are the better team in his mind.
Very true...as great as he was, MJ was horrible about traveling.Personally, it's not only Ginobli who travels. Many superstars in the league, travel and carry. Kobe and Duncan seem to be the only true superstars out there who minimally break the rules.
He said the same thing about Dwyane Wade two years ago, that he walks all the time.
So what? Players get away with walks and carries and palms all the time.
Who even listens to Phil Jackson anymore anyway?
Chris Paul should be another candidate...
Those in Laker Nation who still believe this is actually a championship team.
Kobe never walks?
Tell Phil to buy a Pepsi and a smile and then READ the truth!!!
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...55&postcount=4
Though his legs are relatively short for his frame, Ginobili covers an inordinate amount of ground, which has led to much wailing that he travels more than a rail-riding hobo. "I do not travel," says Ginobili. "I take two steps always." Bowen, who played for parts of two seasons in France, agrees. "We're taught over here to take these little pitty-pat two steps, but in Europe they take two long steps," he says. One NBA referee, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed that while officials do get complaints about Ginobili's alleged traveling, "it's not even an issue."
Along with long steps, Ginobili takes side steps, so his journey to the hoop is seldom a straight -- or predictable -- route. He charges into the lane like a tailback into the line, feinting toward one hole then darting into another. "Manu's learned to take his steps wide and not in the same direct path," says Bowen. "He uses his steps to get around people, not just by them."
Ginobili has become such an effective one-on-one player that an interesting subplot has developed on the Spurs: When the clock is running down late in a close game, will Popovich put the ball in the hands of his point guard, Parker, or Ginobili? Parker can get to the rim or shoot his high-arcing "teardrop" from inside 10 feet. But Ginobili is just as lethal, and lately Popovich has trusted him to go Manu a mano in tight games. Ginobili slashes to the hoop, has a pull-up jumper and finds teammates when he's doubled. Before Game 3 of the Western finals, the Suns were working on their defensive rotations in practice when someone asked, "What do we do if Ginobili gets to this spot?"
Phoenix coach Mike D'Antoni's answer: "Pray that he misses."
Ginobili also has a knack for absorbing contact and still getting off a good shot, which is fortunate for him, since his giant-steps journeys to the basket frequently -- make that almost always -- bring him into contact with a defender or two, not to mention the court. In San Antonio's 102-92 Game 3 win, Phoenix center Amaré Stoudemire almost pulled Ginobili's left arm out of its socket in an effort to stop a reckless excursion to the hoop; later, an undeterred Manu barreled toward the basket, knees up, challenging Stoudemire, a shot blocker, to knock him down. Stoudemire complied. Whistle, basket good, three-point play.
"I don't think about drawing the contact on purpose," Ginobili says. "I just want to get to the line." Which he does.
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Tell Phil to buy a Pepsi and a smile and then READ the truth!!!
I like the Eddie Murphy version when he was talking to Richard Pryor about Bill Cosby complaining about Eddie's language and I will paraphrase it by adding Phil's name.
"Tell Phil to have a Coke and a Smile and shut the up!"
a great majority of them actually believe they are championship contenders.
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