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    ESPN is running some "how do the potential greatest team of all time '07 Patriots match up with the best teams of all time" bull .



    I've seen this story before, and if history holds it doesn't end well for the Patriots.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    opposing fans are now reaching for the "ESPN loves them too much for them to really be this good" excuse.

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    opposing fans are now reaching for the "ESPN loves them too much for them to really be this good" excuse.
    I don't think you quite got the intended message here...

    this was more of a shot at ESPN's stupidity and USC's bull four weeks of "greatest team of all time" talk in '05. You would think ESPN would learn a lesson, but apparently they really are that stupid.

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    I don't think you quite got the intended message here...

    this was more of a shot at ESPN's stupidity and USC's bull four weeks of "greatest team of all time" talk in '05. You would think ESPN would learn a lesson, but apparently they really are that stupid.
    They were saying that about THIS year's USC team too, before the season started.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    I don't think you quite got the intended message here...

    this was more of a shot at ESPN's stupidity and USC's bull four weeks of "greatest team of all time" talk in '05. You would think ESPN would learn a lesson, but apparently they really are that stupid.
    I got the message just fine. It also implies that the Patriots are destined to fail simply because ESPN is stupid enough to run "greatest team ever" talk before they've actually gotten it done. Which is desperate Cowboyfan hope, nothing more.

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    I got the message just fine. It also implies that the Patriots are destined to fail simply because ESPN is stupid enough to run "greatest team ever" talk before they've actually gotten it done. Which is desperate Cowboyfan hope, nothing more.
    Wow, you really are looking for any reason to be hostile. The funny thing is I wasn't even thinking about the Pats, it could have been anybody and I would have thought the same thing. It's like the Madden curse, just an inexplicable phenomenon that ESPN jocks something as greatest of all time and it turns to .

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    For a bandwagoner this kid sure takes this stuff personally.

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    I got the message just fine. It also implies that the Patriots are destined to fail simply because ESPN is stupid enough to run "greatest team ever" talk before they've actually gotten it done. Which is desperate Cowboyfan hope, nothing more.
    Wasn't it you who said in Week 7 that having ESPN in your corner is the kiss of death? What a flopper.

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    Bill Parcells gave the '78 Steelers the best chance to beat the '07 Patriots. He thought that was the Steelers best balanced championship team on offense and defense. But he did claim the Steelers played mostly zone defenses back then and Brady would tear their zone apart. Chris Berman suggested the Steelers would have to make adjustments to defend Brady.

    I have seen the older version of this defense in 1979 and 1980, and they were still very good. But like I said in a previous post, the Steel Curtain was in it's prime between 1975 and 1976 when they still had Andy Russell. I think the '75 Steelers would be the Patriots most formidable matchup. Joe Greene and L.C. Greenwood were in their prime. They would absolutely cause havoc in the Patriot backfield. For a modern comparison, think Warren Sapp and Simeon Rice in for the Bucs in '02. Though Sapp was beyond his prime in '02.

    Parcells thought Lynn Swann and John Stalworth combined with their power running game with Harris and Bleier would matchup well against the Patriots defense. Bradshaw had a canon so that would make the Patriot safeties play less in the box.

    Parcells dismissed the '85 Bears because of their secondary.

    He thought the '89 Niners would have to win in a shootout.

    Unfortunately on the NFL Network, they have been replaying all of the Patriot games from this season. It's as if they have been crowned the greatest team of all time already. It's nauseating.

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    It's as if they have been crowned the greatest team of all time already. It's nauseating.
    If and when they run through and win the Super Bowl then we can talk "greatest team ever"...
    if you want to crown em, then crown thier ass

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    If and when they run through and win the Super Bowl then we can talk "greatest team ever"...
    Exactly.

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    Montana and Rice (along with their other key players) would have shred that Patriot defense. I think the 49er defense was a bit underrated also.

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    Montana and Rice (along with their other key players) would have shred that Patriot defense. I think the 49er defense was a bit underrated also.
    Charles Haley, Ronnie Lott and Bill Romanowski on D could hardly be considered underrated, but maybe just not recognized highly amongst the greatest defenses because of the thier high power offense.

    Montana, Rice, and Craig were a nighmare for defenses.

    And if you want to talk offensive explosions look at the 99 Rams, their D wasnt too shabby either.
    Last edited by sa_butta; 12-28-2007 at 09:48 AM.

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    Parcells did the '93 Cowboys this morning. He thought the Cowboy offense would be able to move the ball against the Patriot defense and score in the 20's.

    But he thought the Patriots would score in the 30's against the Cowboy defense. The reason he gave was that the Cowboy linebackers couldn't cover in space.

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    For a bandwagoner this kid sure takes this stuff personally.
    For a desperate little cowboyfan got you sure run out of material quick.

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    Wasn't it you who said in Week 7 that having ESPN in your corner is the kiss of death? What a flopper.
    Yeah but that's only if they're legitimately in your corner. It's pretty obvious ESPN is doing everything possible to jinx the Patriots since just about everybody who works for them hates New England.

    and if this thread came from you or TSA or anybody with a brain, it wouldn't have made much of a difference to me. It's cuz it came from some Tony loving Cowboy fan who desperately wants to face anybody but the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

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    Yeah but that's only if they're legitimately in your corner. It's pretty obvious ESPN is doing everything possible to jinx the Patriots since just about everybody who works for them hates New England.

    and if this thread came from you or TSA or anybody with a brain, it wouldn't have made much of a difference to me. It's cuz it came from some Tony loving Cowboy fan who desperately wants to face anybody but the Patriots in the Super Bowl.
    Look who has Cowboy envy!

    For some reason you bring the Cowboys up in every discussion, maybe because your bandwagonning ass is feeling a little guilty for leaving the Cowboys for the flavor of the month, and you're overcompensating. Do you still have the Cowboys #22 jersey in your closet, or did you throw it away?

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    Yeah but that's only if they're legitimately in your corner. It's pretty obvious ESPN is doing everything possible to jinx the Patriots since just about everybody who works for them hates New England.
    Yes, I'm sure that most employees of a business headquartered in New England absolutely despise New England sports teams.

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    It's cuz it came from some Tony loving Cowboy fan who desperately wants to face anybody but the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

    As a Tony Loving cowboys fan I would desperately like the cowboys to just get to the superbowl. We can deal with who we face if we get there.

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    Yes, I'm sure that most employees of a business headquartered in New England absolutely despise New England sports teams.
    Exactly, because every time Merrill Hoge, Mark Schlereth, Tom Jackson, Mike Ditka, & every other analyst on that station opens their mouth, I really think "wow, there is somebody biased towards the New England Patriots".

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    I thought Merrill Hoge just hated Vince Young.


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    Schlereth and Ditka did openly bash the Patriots at some point, and then their producers probably told them not to do it anymore and they flopped to some cookie-cutter responses in praise of the Pats. Never heard anything from Hoge or Jackson but honestly I only watch NFL Live and Sunday Countdown until they cover my team and then I flip the channel.

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    Yeah but that's only if they're legitimately in your corner. It's pretty obvious ESPN is doing everything possible to jinx the Patriots since just about everybody who works for them hates New England.

    and if this thread came from you or TSA or anybody with a brain, it wouldn't have made much of a difference to me. It's cuz it came from some Tony loving Cowboy fan who desperately wants to face anybody but the Patriots in the Super Bowl.
    You're an odd person. I'm not the biggest Cowboys fan, but they're a good story with Romo, and TO finally stringing two straight seasons together without calling his QB gay or going off on him. You also gotta feel good for Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett. What I don't understand is why you are even concerning yourselves with the Cowboys or their fans when the team you supposedly root for is going for a 16-0 season tomorrow. That makes no sense to me.

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    As crazy as this sounds, I think the Patriots go 16-0 and lose before the Superbowl. I think they've taken advantage of 6 games against the weakest division in football and getting the Cowboys with starting secondary players out. A very impressive season, but not a team without flaws.

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    Never heard anything from Hoge or Jackson but honestly I only watch NFL Live and Sunday Countdown until they cover my team and then I flip the channel.
    Merrill Hoge hates on the Pats every chance he gets, he ever ranked the Colts & Steelers ahead of them after the Pats beat them.

    And Tom Jackson has a vendetta against New England that goes back to 2003 when he made his infamous "they hate their head coach" comment despite never researching it at all, which of course rallied the entire team to win the Super Bowl. Then when Jackson tried to congratulate Belichick, he just said " you" and walked off.

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