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Does Elson for Chandler straight up even work?
Nothing earth shattering here, just an FYI.
David Thorpe says that Isiah Thomas is shopping Wilson Chandler. I've also noticed Zeke has DNP-CD Balkman a number of times this season. I wonder if the Spurs would have an interest in either player.
Balkman can't shoot, so I'm dubious right off. I don't know much about Chandler, but, for all his short comings, Isiah has an eye for talent. Maybe Chandler's worth Elson and a future 2nd. The Spurs could assign Chandler to the Toros and try to develop him. Elson for Chandler would also save them a little money this year that they might use toward their 15th roster spot later in the season.
Does Elson for Chandler straight up even work?
Phat Tony,
NY could do it if they were willing to part with some of their Frye trade exception money.
Sorry to put the kabash on that one too....
You can't package a trade exception with another player.
Really, it doesn't sound like a bad deal, but it just can't happen.
If the Spurs land that big small forward maybe they'll finally win a championship.
I would like Balkman on the spurs very much..high energy player..Great defensively
I just love new acquisition talk.
Tony, thanks. I feel a bit dumb. I thought you could pair the two. The Spurs could take Chandler with their trade exception money if not for the fact that his 1 million contract would push them into tax land. And Bill Simmons thinks being an NBA GM is easy.
Setting aside specific players, do you think the Spurs will try to use their trade exception money to acquire a prospect or if they'd be willing to lose, say Elson, for nothing in return save someone else's trade money? If they did the latter, they'd be a position to make a semi-meaningful late season signing were someone attractive to become available.
Bring on the Malik and Chandler for Spurs players posts.
They can't afford to lose Elson. He's the only athletic big on this team. His contributions may come in handy versus say, a Dallas, PHX or even Boston.
Chandler was supposedly Isiah's big draft coup - he loved the guy back then so I'm not sure why he's shopping him now. He is a bit shorter than a 'long 3' and played primarily power forward for DePaul, plus his at ude is a question. Still, some nice tools to develop.
Balkman may have hit his ceiling already. Who knows, but if I could get him into a Spurs' uniform without much fuss, I'd do it immediately. He has no outside game and may be without a position, but he can jump in and bang around a bit. Would I trade Elson or anybody currently on the team for him? No.
Carney is the closest to a 'long 3', but there are issues there as well. Also, I see no reason why they'd pick and go after any of these guys when they've told other SFs they've had, who are more or less the same, to hit the road (although DJ may be coming back).
Especially the last. He has bad blood - in the good way - with Kevin Garnett, right? They got into it some years ago in the playoffs. A slim chance Elson can affect his game, but there's a reason to keep him.
Hornets are wondering if TD for Chandler works......
I don't think a player like Chandler could be available for a second round pick. If Spurs wants him, they likely will have to give a first round pick.
And if Spurs are ready to give up a first round pick for a long 3, I rather see them giving it for a more nba ready player than Chandler.
Maybe. But Zeke does not play within the same framework of logic as other GMs. That, and Chandler was probably a second round pick if not for Zeke giving him a premature promise.
I'm not sure what the Spurs are thinking long term, but judging from their cap situation and their appoarch over the last few months, it seems that are thinking of grooming a player or two in Austin. This helps against the system learning curve and is more affordable.
I'm with you. I'd rather see an NBA ready player. But I think the Spurs will patiently wait on a diamond in the rough--ala their approach with Marcus Williams. So, whereas James Jones is ideal, someone Austin-ready, like Chandler, is more likely. In other words, I think the Spus are bent on turning Austin into a bonafide farm team.
I believe they can do both - next season. Acquire a bona fide FA like James Jones, yet still add and develop an emerging SF talent. Why wouldn't they? Especially if the notion of both Barry and Finley departing is true.
You're right. I was thinking in terms of a marginal trade prior to the Feb. deadline.
Speaking of which, and because you LOVE acquisition talk, Mutumbo has retired. I would be all for, at ude or not, Elson for Steve Francis, which does work. It's a lopsided deal, I know. But Francis is doing nothing for Houston, and they're not that good. They might be desperate enough for that trade to happen. Francis is owed less than Elson and is off the hook after the season. Win, win.
Damn the perfect long 3 IMO would be Travis Outlaw. To bad thats never happening.
Careful. Be very, very careful what you wish for.
At this point, Francis looks like damaged, or washed-up, goods. Dude has no lift. His shot is spotty and his sordid reputation as a whiner are bad enough. Moreover, can you really depend on the motivation of a guy who received a $30 mil buyout over this past summer? He may have something to prove. I just don't want him doing it here. If that's the case, what about Darius Miles? Guys that have have been chronic whiners and who have have a track record for undermining the fortunes of every franchise they've been on.
Bottom line is I wouldn't touch Francis, Miles or McGrady with a 10-ft sharp stick.
i agree with you.... his length his shooting classy guy 4th quarter finisher.. dribbles... one of my most watched not named Bruce BowenDamn the perfect long 3 IMO would be Travis Outlaw. To bad thats never happening.
Strike up a jazz band, because I've entered into stream of consciousness message board mode.Careful. Be very, very careful what you wish for.
At this point, Francis looks like damaged, or washed-up, goods. Dude has no lift. His shot is spotty and his sordid reputation as a whiner are bad enough. Moreover, can you really depend on the motivation of a guy who received a $30 mil buyout over this past summer? He may have something to prove. I just don't want him doing it here. If that's the case, what about Darius Miles? Guys that have have been chronic whiners and who have have a track record for undermining the fortunes of every franchise they've been on.
Bottom line is I wouldn't touch Francis, Miles or McGrady with a 10-ft sharp stick.
What's the asking price on Charlie Villanueva? With Bogut and Yi on board, he's the odd man out. Elson and his salaries match, but I bet the Bucks would want a first round pick to go along with the cap relief. In terms of skill set, he's a good fit for the Spurs and has another inexpensive year on his deal.
We had a shot at Outlaw last summer and opted for his teammate instead.
We had a shot?
In an alternate dimension, perhaps.
I wish they actually did go for him, but don't think Portland would have let him go.
The Spurs could have let Bonner go and not offered Udoka a contract--that would have given them a shot at Outlaw.
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