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noah is a bum, glad we took spencer
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=114329&src=150
At halftime of the Bulls' lifeless 102-88 loss to the Orlando Magic on Tuesday night, Noah and Ben Wallace had to be separated in the locker room, according to witnesses.
Noah walked into the room loudly complaining about Bulls players laughing on the bench, then Wallace confronted Noah, and Luol Deng had to step in and pull them apart, the witnesses said.
The Bulls finished the first half down 57-52 after trimming a 14-point deficit. When the second half began, the Bulls appeared s -shocked.
They were outscored 32-10 in the third quarter as the Magic pulled out to a 27-point lead. Some Bulls reserves led a late comeback to make the final score seem respectable.
noah is a bum, glad we took spencer
I'd love to see Ben rip his head off!
Wow. I know some people were warning that the Bulls were overhyped before this season started, but I doubt even the biggest detractors saw this sort of implosion happening this year.
And any sort of damage Big Ben would have done to Noah's face would probably have been an improvement.
Noah was the most overrated first round draft pick ever in the history of all basketball. I have no ing idea to this day how in the anyone would take this guy with a first round pick.
I agree, but after watching the Final Four, it was obvious there was not much to pick from. All the great college age players are already in the NBA!
Rook shooting his mouth off in the NBA. Hey, isn't he french or something?
Paxson has really screwed up Chicago with his lousy trades and disatrous drafts.
you think its a French thing?
how do you go after Ben Wallace. That dude would build a ing ark in Noah's face.
I only see one thing wrong with this....
The team that Noah is on. Noah was just trying to fire up his team and get them to focus after a sloppy first half. The problem is that he is on a team with a bunch of veterans and pre-established leaders.
I would see no problem with what he did if he were on the T-Wolves or another young team. He would be praised for getting his players fired up and taking a leadership role on the team.
Bottom Line: Noah is a good guy and his heart is in the right place, he's just on the wrong team.
Don't forget FA....
Signing a 32yr old, one-dimensional Ben Wallace to a $15M a year deal....insane!
You're joking right? Noah is a rookie who has done nothing except win a college championship. Even if he wasn't on the T-Wolves or a younger team, that is not the way to be firing up ur teammates or taking a leadership role...stuff like that may work in the college level but this is professional basketball now. And more so than that, I could understand if he talked smack and backed it up with good play....he doesn't do that. What's his averages for the season? What's he do on the court that's so great or that's helping the team?
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mario...ttiweb.article
Bulls: More dissension, more disarray
January 16, 2008
BY JAY MARIOTTI Sun-Times Columnist
So there was Ben Wallace, $60 million waste, laughing on the bench Tuesday night in Orlando. The Bulls were on their way to another hapless, character-less loss, and Big Bum was having such a good time that you wanted to stuff him in a Goofy suit and point him to Disney World.
He wasn't the only quitter and slacker in a 102-88 defeat, the latest stinker in a pathetic season of quitting and slacking. The laughter apparently led Joakim Noah, coming off a teammates-approved suspension for screaming maniacally at assistant coach Ron Adams, to confront Wallace in an episode that required Luol Deng to separate them. All of which only underscores the thievery taking place. The Bulls are stealing money. They are embarrassing the city and a franchise that 10 years ago, willed by the most cut-throat compe or of all time, won its sixth NBA championship. They admittedly quit on Scott Skiles and got him fired. Now they aren't playing for interim coach/sucker Jim Boylan, which comes after Wallace -- in a pathetic bit of hypocrisy -- led the in-house charge against Noah when he blew up at assistant coach Ron Adams last Friday.
At least Noah, who returned to produce 12 points and a career-high 11 rebounds, cares about winning. Seems Noah was as irked as I was about the apathy of some veterans -- the same mopes who had gone to Boylan and urged him to extend the rookie's one-game suspension to two games for the Adams incident. Shame on Boylan and general manager John Paxson for allowing those veterans any la ude to make disciplinary decisions when some are guilty of far worse sins than Noah.
If the rookie was punished two games, Wallace should be suspended five for laughing. But that won't happen. Know why? His agent, Arn Tellem, is close with Bulls chairman Jerry Reinsdorf. It was Reinsdorf, according to ESPN's Ric Bucher, who fueled the regrettable Wallace signing two summers ago because of his relationship with Tellem. There even was a report, denied by the Bulls, that Reinsdorf met last month with Wallace and Tellem to gauge the players' feelings about Skiles.
So maybe we shouldn't be blaming only Paxson for the Bulls demise.
Maybe it's a classic Reinsdorf screwup.
Boylan, who tried to place trust in the players during the Noah episode, was more disgusted than anyone. Nice attempt to rally the troops, Mr. Interim. ``Our lack of effort in the third quarter was unacceptable and probably the worst third quarter I've seen since I've been with the Chicago Bulls, as a head coach or an assistant,'' he said. ``It was a lack of effort all the way across the board, a lack of concentration and focus.
``In the NBA, there's always ebb and flow, but we're letting teams have their way with us. Our defense is soft; our offense is anemic at times. We seem to be casual with the ball. We have to do something about that if we want to get ourselves right. We have to change the way we're playing. I don't have any magic dust to sprinkle over anyone. I have seen these guys compete at a high level. For some reason we are not doing that.''
They're already fired a well-regarded coach. They're already turned a rookie into a peer-pressure scapegoat. Any other solutions?
``It's just embarrassing,'' said Chris Duhon, who said last month that the Bulls stopped playing for Skiles.
The team is a disgrace, a daily subject on national TV shows.
Somewhere in Indiana, Skiles must be laughing himself, though surely not as hard as Big Bum.
Ben Wallace is a cancer. He is destroying the Bulls.
The Chicago media are pretty much backing Noah and tearing Ben a new one over this.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/74306...ttiweb.article
"So there was Ben Wallace, $60 million waste, laughing on the bench Tuesday night in Orlando. The Bulls were on their way to another hapless, character-less loss, and Big Bum was having such a good time...."
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotr...-apples-s.html
"Some of those veterans were caught on camera yukking it up as they were getting humiliated by 22 points in that third quarter -- specifically Ben Wallace and Joe Smith. OK, maybe it was out of context, even for a Hall-of-Fame hypocrite such as Wallace.
But no. It wasn't out of context. In fact, it was evidence of Wallace as the poster child for this gutless team....."
Harsh town, Chicago.
Noah needs to keep his mouth in check. He's already been reprimanded for his stupid talk. It might've have been ok if he weren't a rook. That don't fly in the NBA, floppy boy.
Fighting with Ben Wallace isn't a good idea either. The guy could beat him up good without breaking a sweat.
who has wallace beat up lately? that's right. noone. He is just a big teddy bear. I can't imagine him beating up anyone. He can't even rebound anymore.
he is a bum
well, some comments are either showing sights of ignorance, or funny... !
Noah is just a ing winner, and a ing leader and he just proves it..
And he has balls ! I just think he is simply taking over the bulls locker room..
Oh yeah, he is a rookie... But he is the rookie who said no to a guaranteed 1st place in the draft and convince his teamates for the back to back. and made it.
Once Noah starts ( and we might come close to it now) he will produce a double-double on a regular basis, providing leadership,passing, energy and team spirit...
Oh yeah, he has an awful shot, sure, he has to work his basket fundamentals...
But he just simply knows better that everyone on his team what it take to win games !
Xap'
I don't like Noah, but I agree with what he did; he was right in my opinion.
Wallace reacted like an idiot.
ben wallace can laugh?
i've never even seen the dude crack a smile.
btw noah should just shut the up. if he was making as much as wallace he'd be able to laugh in a loss as well.
No he doesn't have to. And why should he ?
Ah yeah, he is a rookie !
Well, to my mind, you are a leader or you are not. It is a question a character. and Noah is an heck of a leader.
Good thing, there are actually no leaders on their roster..
Sadly, It is difficult for vets to accept that the rookie is the one !
Xap'
You don't need to be a veteran to show heart and intensity. He also doesn't have to be a 20/10 guy to establish a leadership role with a team. He gives full effort every time he's out there on that court, so it's not like he's demanding more of other players than he's giving.
The problem is, as I said previously, this team is full of veterans that think they've earned the right to play like crap and are sitting pretty with their millions of guaranteed dollars. Compound that, their frustration from losing, and Noah's in-your-face style....and you've got conflict.
But Noah has an infectious at ude that can be a positive if he's in the right situation.
So no....I'm not joking.
BTW, Noah's stats are actually pretty good for a guy that supposedly has "no offense".
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