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    This one just got interesting....

    "Corporate Lawyer for Wal-Mart!" Obama shouts

    "Corporate Lawyer representing Slum Landlord friend!" retorts Clinton

    This can be nothing but bad for the party, but it sure is fun....

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    John Edwards has been hugely impressive in this debate.

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    The democrats are going to tear themselves apart before the republicans can even get their teeth into them.

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    Obama is weak. Can't even look the she-devil in the eyes.

    There is so much Obama could whip out on this p.o.s. Clinton Inc. There is enough shady history out there on Hillary that Obama should easily be able to tear this apart.

    They can't even give Reagan any props. And the loser Americans eat it up
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    My favorite non-Hillary-v.-Obama moment was when Hillary gave credit to the Democrats for the political progress in Iraq, saying it was because Iraqi politicians "knew a democrat was going to take office and wasn't going to write a blank check".

    My god, Democrats are going to get DESTROYED in the general election if they use that kind of rediculous logic.

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    Obama is weak. Can't even look the she-devil in the eyes.

    There is so much Obama could whip out on this p.o.s. Clinton Inc. There is enough shady history out there on Hillary that Obama should easily be able to tear this apart.

    They can't even give Reagan any props. And the loser Americans eat it up

    she has bigger balls then you or any republican in this race ...

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    she has bigger balls then you or any republican in this race ...
    Power-hungry greed mixed with a lust to get into the record books will do that to you.

    For some reason no one is willing to take off the gloves and get down to bidness.

    We are getting tired of the same ol' promise promise bull bull . That can wait until they actually get into office. Let's see some blood!

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Power-hungry greed mixed with a lust to get into the record books will do that to you.

    For some reason no one is willing to take off the gloves and get down to bidness.

    she's one tough .. she's actually winning me over..

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    I won't lie. I doubt I could even look her in the eyes. She is pretty intimidating.

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    I won't lie. I doubt I could even look her in the eyes. She is pretty intimidating.
    I think there's a "because you will turn to stone" joke in there.

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    her toughness is honestly convincing lotsa folks to vote for her. my mother informed me just today that she intends to vote for her because she doesn't take any B.S. funny cause my dad likes edwards, who seems like a puss.

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    Hillary is a cold, calculated, cutthroat ....

    This can be a good thing or a bad thing in a president. Not my brand of politician, but she might appeal to A LOT of people with that persona. I doubt it would hurt her in the general election if she goes up against staunch national defense figures like McCain or Giuliani.

    Though, the comment about the credit for the political progress going to the democrats and not to the surge...that'll hurt.

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    That debate ended up in a three way tie for last place. @ the people who think Obama and Hillary will team up eventually.

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    (kerry is a traitor! he didn't deserve or respect the medals he and his fellow servicemen earned!)


    He is a traitor...the medals are bogus...but the reason he didn't win is because he was cut and run<<<<<< the major one, and wanted to kiss the ass of the corrupt UN, and two European leaders who were promptly voted out of power.


    He shouldn't have tried to pass himself off as a war hero, especially when he is on record as being completely opposed to that war, not to mention on record as completely demonizing his fellow soldiers over the actions of a few, entirely for his own political gain...get serious. It was the real war heroes that took his ass down.

    You have to ask yourself...after 3 consecutive victories in the popular vote by the Democrats, how come Bush all of a sudden became popular in 04?


    Were the American people stupid when they voted for Gore and Clinton? Or just when they stopped agreeing with your political views...

    Or were we all just pro-war lurking under the surface and just itching to let our inner imperialists out?


    And BTW, nothing will ever rally anyone to your cause like calling them stupid...take it from me

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    It was nice to see the gloves come off tonight but i think Obama Pwned Hillary, she obviously lost her temper and it made her look like a child. If looks could kill Obama would be resting in peace this evening.

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    Watching it right now. Edwards/Obama coming off a of a lot better than Clinton so far. Edwards answer about predatory lending was very very good.

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    I will say one thing. Obama needs to play more cards like "I don't kow who I'm running against". If he can make it seem like Bill is running again then maybe it takes him out of the picture. Make no mistake about it - he's huge as a campaigner and the way he plays the media. Eliminating him as a factor would be huge.

    Then again, people love Bill Clinton. Maybe they wouldn't care if it looks like he's running instead of Hillary.

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    I'm sure this sit down bull was Hillary's people's idea. So lame.

    Obama comes off very well in this debate, imo. However, I think they all come off well in the 2nd half of the debate. Edwards get pushed to the side and while I really do love his passion for what he wants to change, I don't think its the right time for his message and I don't think its a presidential message he conveys.

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    Well i couldn't believe how someone could vote for Bush when i saw what type of person he is.He did major damage to the perception of how people outside of US think about americans and watching hillary on cnn i see a bush type person. She doesn't care about anything but power. Another loss for US.

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    John Edwards has been hugely impressive in this debate.
    Yes he was. His passion is remarkable and I've always liked him. He did very well. Not well enough to propel his campaign but still effective.

    This was not good for Barack. Although I think he did well down the stretch going up against the Clinton Machine is a very risky move. Hate all you want but Hillary has learned from the Master, Bill, and they know how to get their points across at any means.
    I must admit I have no doubts that HIllary can with stand anything the republicans throw at her and she does have a valid point. The republcans have going after her for years.
    Rush Limpballs almost has an orgasm when he talks about her.
    I'm still supporting Barack but it will be hard to keep up with Hillary in the long run.
    She is one tough woman I give her that.

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    I will say one thing. Obama needs to play more cards like "I don't kow who I'm running against". If he can make it seem like Bill is running again then maybe it takes him out of the picture. Make no mistake about it - he's huge as a campaigner and the way he plays the media. Eliminating him as a factor would be huge.

    Then again, people love Bill Clinton. Maybe they wouldn't care if it looks like he's running instead of Hillary.
    I concur. Bill is the Master of campaigning but when he's throwing attacks at Obama it irks the out of me but I have to sit back and say....damn, he's good. Politics is not a nice business and you must be prepared for the personal and political attacks aimed at you.

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    He is a traitor...the medals are bogus...but the reason he didn't win is because he was cut and run<<<<<< the major one, and wanted to kiss the ass of the corrupt UN, and two European leaders who were promptly voted out of power.


    He shouldn't have tried to pass himself off as a war hero, especially when he is on record as being completely opposed to that war, not to mention on record as completely demonizing his fellow soldiers over the actions of a few, entirely for his own political gain...get serious. It was the real war heroes that took his ass down.

    You have to ask yourself...after 3 consecutive victories in the popular vote by the Democrats, how come Bush all of a sudden became popular in 04?


    Were the American people stupid when they voted for Gore and Clinton? Or just when they stopped agreeing with your political views...

    Or were we all just pro-war lurking under the surface and just itching to let our inner imperialists out?


    And BTW, nothing will ever rally anyone to your cause like calling them stupid...take it from me
    Kerry served. End of story.

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    she's one tough .. she's actually winning me over..
    That's no great accomplishment.

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    For real

    how many more of kerry's feet than bush's feet have made physical contact with the ground in vietnam?

    less than three?

    Bush didn't bill himself as a war hero....

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    Bush didn't bill himself as a war hero....
    He couldn't if he tried.

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