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    Udoka's has been doing very well on defense, and his offensive game is WAY ahead of Bowen. The Spurs have had trouble this season scoring and Bowen out there doesn't help matters.



    Bowen needs to come off the bench

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    Might be nice to have the extra scoring coming off the bench.

    So, I dunno...I'll leave this one up to Pop.

    The remaining decisions, he'll have to consult with me.

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    Ok he had a great game, but please don't insult Bowen here. He was never meant to be a scorer and his defense is superior.

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    Did you see that Bowen block on Kobe?

    Man is still one of the best.

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    the more PT Udoka gets guarding the best players the better he will get, Pop starting to see that


    Bowen on the bench at the end yesterday hopefully will be aign of things to come

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    Manu defended Kobe today when Bruce was sitting, Udoka played on Walton.

    Please Bowen is still a long way ahead of Udoka on defence, but he has the tools, it will come with time.

    Udoka had an excellent game, but it's also great to have Manu, Barry and Udoka on the bench to change the pace of the game.

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    After one game?

    And Udoka doesn't have near the defensive versatility of Bowen.

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    Right now, I still like the idea of starting Bowen and then bringing Ime in when Manu checks in. As the game goes on, give Ime more of Bowens minutes. Right now Bruce has probably spent more energy than anyone on the team, and he could use the extra minutes off until April or May.

    You gotta be impressed with the Udoka showing last night. Good D and hitting almost every open shot he had. You can see the team is trusting him, and that he has probably caught on to the system in record time. Usually takes a full season for a player to get really comfortable with the system. Appears he has already figured it out, which also means he must have a pretty high BB IQ.

    That third quarter was classic. Wish I had taped it, so when the Spurs seem down, I could watch it for inspiration. I'm like Elliott....That may have been the best quarter I have ever seen in BB. Blocks, steals, dunks, scoring.....It had it all. That entire quarter should make the highlight reel. , it should BE the highlight reel.

    One win down, and 2 to go before the road trip. We should take care of Miami tonight, and then if we can have a convincing win against the Hornets, I think the Spurs are on their way to have a great road trip.

    There is still room for improvement.... But just imagine if Gino had been spot on with his shooting last night. It would have been a blowout.

    At the very least it looks like Ime gives us one more guy to go to if any one of the Big 3 are off their game on any given night.

    I'm really liking the way this team is coming together....Looking forward to a great run in the playoffs.

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    Bowen is still more versatile on defense than Ime. We might see both of them start if Pop ever goes with a small ball starting lineup.

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    Now is the time for jumping to conclusions and dramatic thread les.

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    I agree.

    The fact that Bowen only played 23 minutes against the Lakers, when his hallmark is defending superior perimeter player like Kobe, is very telling.

    I've long maintained that Bowen's value is overrated. He never really stops anyone. And what good is it if you "hold" your guy to 28 points if you only score 10?

    I'd rather have a guy out there that might yield 35 points to a star player, but can do more than hit baseline 3s.

    Udoka is capable of good defense and scoring in double figures or at a minimum spreading out the floor a bit.

    You love Bowen? Fine. Bring him off the bench when an opposing star gets too hot to handle.

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    He never really stops anyone.
    Nothing like a good ol' pile bull to bolster your agenda.

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    Wow. I can't believe some of this crap. I'm as excited about Ime as the next Spurs fan and I'm all for giving Bowen some rest, but Bruce is still THE premier perimeter defender in the league.

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    I agree.

    The fact that Bowen only played 23 minutes against the Lakers, when his hallmark is defending superior perimeter player like Kobe, is very telling.

    I've long maintained that Bowen's value is overrated.
    He never really stops anyone. And what good is it if you "hold" your guy to 28 points if you only score 10?

    I'd rather have a guy out there that might yield 35 points to a star player, but can do more than hit baseline 3s.

    Udoka is capable of good defense and scoring in double figures or at a minimum spreading out the floor a bit.

    You love Bowen? Fine. Bring him off the bench when an opposing star gets too hot to handle.
    You might want to ask Ray Allen, Melo, or even Kobe himself how "overrated" Bowen is.

    IIRC, in the previous meeting with the Lake Show this year, Bowen actually outscored Kobe. I think one meeting Bowen put up 22 while holding Kobe to about 15.

    You also notice Bruce only logged 23 minutes while Kobe logged 40 something last night. When did Kobe get most of his points?

    But Bruce deserves some rest now. He has expended more energy this season than any other Spur. His man is constantly on the move, and Bruce is right there with him.

    No way is Bruce "overrated". He should have been DPOY at least twice, but lost to blockers like Wallace and Camby. Do you actually believe either of those guys could guard on the perimeter like Bowen?

    And Bowen, probably coming to the end of his career, is still working on improving his game. This year he has developed a bit of an in between shot, and certainly has improved his free throws.

    Finally, Bowen does what he was hired to do, and does it as good or better than anyone in the league.

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    I agree.



    I've long maintained that Bowen's value is overrated. He never really stops anyone.


    You love Bowen? Fine. Bring him off the bench when an opposing star gets too hot to handle.
    How do these two sentences make any sense at all?

    First you say he is overrated, and then you say bring him in when the opposing star gets too hot to handle.

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    I agree.

    The fact that Bowen only played 23 minutes against the Lakers, when his hallmark is defending superior perimeter player like Kobe, is very telling.

    I've long maintained that Bowen's value is overrated. He never really stops anyone. And what good is it if you "hold" your guy to 28 points if you only score 10?

    I'd rather have a guy out there that might yield 35 points to a star player, but can do more than hit baseline 3s.

    Udoka is capable of good defense and scoring in double figures or at a minimum spreading out the floor a bit.

    You love Bowen? Fine. Bring him off the bench when an opposing star gets too hot to handle.


    this is true, he is very overrated, and people forget then Duncan has much to do with Bowen being a good defender

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    Every player is a great defender when he plays with Duncan!

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    Even when Bowen was playing for the Heat, Duncan made him a good defender!

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    SAGambler, when has Bowen ever shut anyone down?

    What happened last night?

    My point is this... he sucks on offense and is only getting older.

    Put his @ss on the bench and bring him in the game as a defensive subs ution... no one is arguing that he doesn't play good D.

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    Yeah, let's replace the best perimeter defender in the league

    this team goes nowhere without Bowen. get real

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    Bowen played 23 mins. against Kobe last night.

    There's no such thing as global warming either, hater.

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    That's because Kobe was sucking in the 2nd half. If Kobe had been on fire in 2nd half you know who would have been guarding him.

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    Even though Bruce has been struggling mightily on the offensive end thus far this season, I'm not ready to say that yet. However, I will say that it's refreshing to have another top-notch periemter defender on the roster. No longer does Bruce have to switch time back and forth between the oppostion's two best perimeter scoring threats.

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    There are no ghosts either, Casper

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