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    http://www.nypost.com/seven/01252008...539.htm?page=0

    NO DEFENSE FOR UPSETTING SUNS HELP WANTED:

    Suns center Amare Stoudemire needs more help than he's getting from his forwards.


    January 25, 2008 -- FAR be it from me to sen sationalize the Suns' infuriating defensive descent against the Timberwolves. But when you lose twice to an adolescent outfit, winners of seven in 41 tries, the time has come, the walrus said, to speak of one thing: reconsidering an Andrei Kirilenko-Shawn Marion trade.

    Steve Kerr rejected that very proposition by the Jazz at least once, maybe more, I'm informed. Evidently, a recent decision was made by the rookie VP/multi-championship ring bearer not to tamper with the hardcore of the 30-13 team and to go with the rapid-fire flow orchestrated by coach Mike D'Antoni and implemented by Steve Nash, in all likelihood for the last time, even should the Suns win it all.

    Though one especially lousy loss (117-107) isn't expected to alter Kerr's master plan that plan, could Al Jefferson's overpowering presentation (39 points, 15 rebounds) crystallize it any clearer that Amare Stoudemire desperately needs weak side as well as strong side help?

    "We stopped playing defense," Amare said.

    We?

    You!

    "Jeez, Amare, if you're going to let Jefferson torch you like that, act like you're hurt and check in for more surgery," Rasheid McCorvey e-mailed.

    The column contributor echoed the sentiments of a fast- growing NBA subdivision convinced "you cannot get a ring if you can't stop anyone, no matter how much you score."

    An interior defensive designer, Kirilenko provides roadside assistance for teammates whether or not they're signed up for the coverage.

    Though not a particularly sharp shooter from afar, Kirilenko's 6-foot-10 height, fast feet, long arms and lengthy contract (three guaranteed years after this, worth $49.3 million) all should appeal to the Suns.

    In contract, the world-class sprinting, long-distance dialing Marion is undersized (6-7, 215) for a macho forward, and can opt out of his final year ($17.8M) this summer.

    Judging by his lack of aggression and support Wednesday night, Marion is one game ahead of schedule. In 321/2 minutes (how does one do so little and earn so much time?), he went 3-for-3 from the field (seven points), never visited the foul line, grabbed three defensive rebounds, committed four fouls and had one assist, one steal and one turnover.

    "Must have been one of Shawn's 'I have a headache' games," McCorvey wryly ruminated.

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    I'll agree they probably need to move Marion, but AK isn't going to get them to the next level. His disapearing act in the playoffs last year made Marion's postseason struggles look tiny.

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    One thing is certain : Phoenix doesn't want to face a healthy Lakers team in the playoffs

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    please Suns get AK hahahahaha

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    One thing is certain : Phoenix doesn't want to face a healthy Lakers team in the playoffs
    Bring 'em on. The only team I really worry about is the San Antonio Spurs.

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    Bring 'em on. The only team I really worry about is the San Antonio Spurs.
    I mean no disrespect, but the Lakers have the personell to exploit the weaknesses of the Suns. If Andrew Bynum can get himself into playing shape by the playoffs there is really nobody on the Suns that can handle him. There is a very good reason why the Suns lost to a horrid Minnesota team twice this year, and yes it will be a huge problem for the Suns come playoff time if they don't address it.

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    Who's going to be the lucky team that gets to face Suns first.

    Spurs have earned the right to DAGGER D'Antonio.

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    Who's going to be the lucky team that gets to face Suns first.

    Spurs have earned the right to DAGGER D'Antonio.
    Go ahead! Underestimate the Suns. They haven't played well this year. But we know the Spurs are the only team that can shut them down. You really think other Western Conference teams want to face them in the first round?

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    How exactly was AK-47 going to stop Jefferson?

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    C'mon Suns fans, be honest. That is a glaring weakness that every one can see. You have to be concerned about that. Teams with a good center will give you .

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    C'mon Suns fans, be honest. That is a glaring weakness that every one can see. You have to be concerned about that. Teams with a good center will give you .

    I know that is not a good thing that Jefferson got a career high in points against Amare's "defense".

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    I know that is not a good thing that Jefferson got a career high in points against Amare's "defense".
    Yeah and it's been like that all season. If the Suns were to address that and get a player, I would be the first to say that they indeed have a very good chance to win the le. Without that, I give you no chance.

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    I agree, and I don't even think it's that much of a fluke that Minnesota has beaten them twice. If you have a low-post beast, you're gonna cause problems for Phoenix. It's very easy to pound them inside. There's an old cliche that says les are won in the paint.

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    I agree, and I don't even think it's that much of a fluke that Minnesota has beaten them twice. If you have a low-post beast, you're gonna cause problems for Phoenix. It's very easy to pound them inside. There's an old cliche that says les are won in the paint.
    Funny you should say that because it doesn't look like Dampier or Diop will be turning into Kareem anytime soon.

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    I agree, and I don't even think it's that much of a fluke that Minnesota has beaten them twice. If you have a low-post beast, you're gonna cause problems for Phoenix. It's very easy to pound them inside. There's an old cliche that says les are won in the paint.
    No it's not a flute, they're just one of those teams that has a good center. It wouldn't be a flute for any team that has a good center. The Suns are good but thin in the middle.

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    LMAO!

    The hatred. The JEALOUSY!!!!

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    Funny you should say that because it doesn't look like Dampier or Diop will be turning into Kareem anytime soon.
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    It's true we don't get enough points out of the Center position, but you have to defend the paint too. Dampier and Diop do that well.

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    Funny you should say that because it doesn't look like Dampier or Diop will be turning into Kareem anytime soon.
    Didn't Dampier go on a scoring spree against them too? Or at least he did better than he normally does?

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    LMAO!

    The hatred. The JEALOUSY!!!!
    I do hate the suns but I hate everybody. the Suns, the Spurs, the Mavs, the Celtics, the Pistons, and you! Who's next?

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    No it's not a flute, they're just one of those teams that has a good center. It wouldn't be a flute for any team that has a good center. The Suns are good but thin in the middle.
    D'Antoni wants to put FIVE scorers on the floor and exploit mismatches. Nobody scores as efficiently as they do, and that's what makes them such a great regular season team because that's a very difficult style to defend against. But D'Antoni has just never committed to putting a guy out there that does the dirty work. Skinner for 25 mpg would really help them out. Amare commits a lot of dumb fouls and he can't help his team sitting on the bench, because he IS a beast at one end of the floor.

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    I do hate the suns but I hate everybody. the Suns, the Spurs, the Mavs, the Celtics, the Pistons, and you! Who's next?

    Yeah right.....Laker fans' hatred for the Suns is hilarious.

    Go to LakersGround or ClubLakers and you'll always find a topic about how much the Suns suck.

    No mention of the Spurs or Mavs or Celtics etc.

    Suns Suns Suns Suns....

    All the time.

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    Didn't Dampier go on a scoring spree against them too? Or at least he did better than he normally does?

    He had like 12 points. Double figures! Dude has such stone hands, and very poor court vision, even for a big.

    It's hard to pick up on tv sometimes, but I was lucky to sit 7 rows behind the bench for a game at the AAC in November. Mavs were on a fast break and Dampier was in perfect position to finish and Devin made a perfect pass that he fumbled away for a turnover. He wasn't even looking for the pass like he should be there in that situation. And that's happened hundreds of times since we got him. Of course, the flip side of that is that he's so good at getting offensive rebounds or tapping the pass back out to the backcourt to keep possessions alive. He's a very frustrating player to have on your team, because he does so many good things and if he had decent hands, he'd be a 20/10 guy easily.

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    Suns shot 32 3 pointers tonight. They made 16 of them, incredible.

    Unfortunately this style of play doesn't work in a 7-game series. But hey let the Suns keep thinking it will, if they actually were smart and picked up a legit Center they might win something.

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    D'Antoni wants to put FIVE scorers on the floor and exploit mismatches. Nobody scores as efficiently as they do, and that's what makes them such a great regular season team because that's a very difficult style to defend against. But D'Antoni has just never committed to putting a guy out there that does the dirty work. Skinner for 25 mpg would really help them out. Amare commits a lot of dumb fouls and he can't help his team sitting on the bench, because he IS a beast at one end of the floor.

    So you got nothing new today, huh?

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    D'Antoni wants to put FIVE scorers on the floor and exploit mismatches. Nobody scores as efficiently as they do, and that's what makes them such a great regular season team because that's a very difficult style to defend against. But D'Antoni has just never committed to putting a guy out there that does the dirty work. Skinner for 25 mpg would really help them out. Amare commits a lot of dumb fouls and he can't help his team sitting on the bench, because he IS a beast at one end of the floor.
    I know, he's an idiot. I really think that they would be better off starting Skinner. Sure they wont score as many points but at least they could defend the paint once in a while and that is there biggest weakness.

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