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    mccain, romney and all the others are just another form of democrat.

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    That is a good thing.

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    I don't like to identify myself with groups. I'm an individual, luckily for me in Texas I can vote without belonging to a particular party.

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    I don't vote straight ticket but for who I like.

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    This is why Monica is a Republican:


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    yet another ron paul nut

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    ^yet another apathatic voter who doesn't understand the cons ution.

    I paid $26000 in income and social security taxes.......I wish I could keep that money and pay some bills......instead of some dumb ass war and millions on welfare.

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    ^yet another apathatic voter who doesn't understand the cons ution.

    I paid $26000 in income and social security taxes.......I wish I could keep that money and pay some bills......instead of some dumb ass war and millions on welfare.
    The war is not just some DUMBASS IDEA. THOSE MEN ARE OUT THERE PROTECTING YOUR GODDAMN ING FREEDOM AND YOU DON'T GIVE A !

    /rant

    Now, I am a Huckabee supporter, and support the FairTax, which would eliminate those income and SS taxes. But we CANNOT PULL OUT OF IRAQ UNTIL THE JOB IS ING DONE!

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    The war is not just some DUMBASS IDEA. THOSE MEN ARE OUT THERE PROTECTING YOUR GODDAMN ING FREEDOM AND YOU DON'T GIVE A !

    /rant

    Now, I am a Huckabee supporter, and support the FairTax, which would eliminate those income and SS taxes. But we CANNOT PULL OUT OF IRAQ UNTIL THE JOB IS ING DONE!

    -Mars
    People like you are why this country is in deep . You seriously believe, with hindsight, that the war was not a dumbass idea. Lets see, Trillions spent, thousands lost, all for what? What have we done except ruin a country? Where are the weapons of mass destruction? Are the people of Iraq safer, or liberated? I believe it was Petraeus who even said we are not safer for being over there, and it was a mistake to go in.

    Yep ing scary you don't think the war was the biggest up since ing Vietnam. You don't attack someone if they haven't done anything to you.

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    I paid $26000 in income and social security taxes.......
    Wow! Your ballin'

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    Now, I am a Huckabee supporter, and support the FairTax, which would eliminate those income and SS taxes. But we CANNOT PULL OUT OF IRAQ UNTIL THE JOB IS ING DONE!

    -Mars

    Which will probably be in the year of 4239. That country is such a mess. Regardless of what people think about the war in Iraq, it's not like the soldiers had a choice. They were given orders and had to follow them.

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    define " ing done"

    can't do it? won't do it? I'm not surprised.

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    ing done = Hillary

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    I love how the democrats and ron paul supporters in this thread have no clue when it comes to dollars. One says we're spending millions on welfare and another says we are spending trillions on the war. More like 50 trillion on welfare and 800 billion on the war.

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    you paid $26000 in taxes and you are whining? you are obviously doing okay for yoursel having to pay so much. quit whining there are a lot of people who wish they had to pay $26k in taxes per year.

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    you paid $26000 in taxes and you are whining? you are obviously doing okay for yoursel having to pay so much. quit whining there are a lot of people who wish they had to pay $26k in taxes per year.
    LOL. I don't even GROSS $26k a year. All in all, I still pay about 10-12k in all the various taxes though.

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    I love how the democrats and ron paul supporters in this thread have no clue when it comes to dollars. One says we're spending millions on welfare and another says we are spending trillions on the war. More like 50 trillion on welfare and 800 billion on the war.
    You know that 90% of all statistics are made up, right?

    Well, you obviously had a fantasy moment.



    Since I was skimming, I couldnt find graphs/charts on the cost of our "War on Terra".

    But I did find an article from CSM on the cost circa November 2006. At the time, we were at $507 billion total cost. Seeing as we had been at "war" since 2001, thats ~$100 billion a year and ever-increasing.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1121/p01s03-usmi.html

    So really, welfare costs the nation 4x as much as out war on terror per year. That gap will close, Im sure in the coming years as the scope of American imperialism expands.

    Side note: the War on Terror is the most expensive war in terms of $$$ in the history of this country...thats adjusted for inflation, btw. And it isnt even close to ending....coincidence?

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    LOL. I don't even GROSS $26k a year. All in all, I still pay about 10-12k in all the various taxes though.
    Get a new job, then. Skill up, son.

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    26K in taxes is petty cash. I make more than enough that I don't give a about paying my fair share. I like cheap labor.

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    Are you smart enough to notice and accept the truth. If you are then just read what the Comptroller General has to say. btw, i never said annual spending. The PV of your social programs are in the 50trillion range. If every american sold every asset we have in put it in one huge pot, we would only come up with 50 trillion or so.

    here's a video link! Your focus on war spending is like worrying about the cable bill when you're on the verge of bankruptcy.

    http://www.gao.gov/media/video/fisca...s/amfiscal.wmv

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    Are you smart enough to notice and accept the truth. If you are then just read what the Comptroller General has to say. btw, i never said annual spending. The PV of your social programs are in the 50trillion range. If every american sold every asset we have in put it in one huge pot, we would only come up with 50 trillion or so.

    here's a video link! Your focus on war spending is like worrying about the cable bill when you're on the verge of bankruptcy.

    http://www.gao.gov/media/video/fisca...s/amfiscal.wmv
    Brother, I never made a claim that the war was breaking the bank. You didnt qualify your earlier statement.

    Yes, the promised benefits of this government are insurmountable. But unlike this war, the bill on the social services isnt due (yet).

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    ^yeah just don't tell me the govt fiances are in the tank until you come back from iraq and quit subsidies to foriegn countries.

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    Brother, I never made a claim that the war was breaking the bank. You didnt qualify your earlier statement.

    Yes, the promised benefits of this government are insurmountable. But unlike this war, the bill on the social services isnt due (yet).
    yes they are because our total deficit, not debt, is 700 billion per year. 600 billion more than military spending.

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    Get a new job, then. Skill up, son.
    No matter what job I get, I'll still be disgusted by how much I have to pay in taxes.

    But as soon as I take care of a couple things, I should be able to get a job that will double my salary

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    Are you smart enough to notice and accept the truth. If you are then just read what the Comptroller General has to say. btw, i never said annual spending. The PV of your social programs are in the 50trillion range. If every american sold every asset we have in put it in one huge pot, we would only come up with 50 trillion or so.

    here's a video link! Your focus on war spending is like worrying about the cable bill when you're on the verge of bankruptcy.

    http://www.gao.gov/media/video/fisca...s/amfiscal.wmv
    I think the big collapse happens around 2020.

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