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    It's In The Numbers 1369's Avatar
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    Where free speech and independent thought go to die...

    In response to a Marine Corps recruiting office established in Berkeley last year, local activists are trying to make it more difficult for future recruiting centers to open in the city.

    If passed by a majority of Berkeley voters, a proposed initiative would require military recruiting offices and private military companies in Berkeley to first acquire a special use permit.

    To obtain this permit, a business must hold public hearings and a public comment period.

    If the initiative passes, recruitment offices could not be opened within 600 feet of residential districts, public parks, public health clinics, public libraries, schools or churches.

    Currently, a recruiting office is held to the same standards as most other businesses, which do not require a public hearing or have limits on where offices can be established.

    The author of the initiative, Berkeley-based lawyer Sharon Adams, modeled the initiative after current zoning law that restricts the location of adult-oriented businesses.

    "In the same way that many communities limit the location of pornographic stores, that's the same way we feel about the military recruiting stations," said PhoeBe sorgen, an initiative proponent and a member of the city's Peace and Justice Commission. "Teenagers that really want to find them will be able to seek them out and find them, but we don't want them in our face."

    The initiative lists complaints against the military including the invasion of Iraq, abuses at Abu Ghraib, discrimination based on sexual orientation and recruiters who mislead potential recruits about benefits and duties.

    Recruiters from the office declined to comment.

    The primary purpose of the new zoning law would be to protect young people from undue influence from military recruiters, supporters say.

    "We feel that as a community we need to protect the youth," Adams said. "We're trying to level the playing field."

    Berkeley Councilmember Dona Spring said she supports the wording of the initiative, but said she would prefer the issue be passed by council so it can be enacted faster rather than waiting for the initiative to be placed on the ballot in November.

    "I think we should just go ahead and pass it," she said. "We can't take everything to the voters."


    But some proponents are hesitant to pass the ordinance through the council because they feel it might be watered down by other council members.

    In addition to making it more difficult for future military recruiting centers to be established, Spring also said she would support action that would remove the current office, which is in her district.

    "I do want to do something, whatever we can do, to shut down an agency that offends our public standards," she said. "It's a detriment, it's a danger to the public."

    Code Pink has staged demonstrations against the recruitment center every Wednesday in front of the center on Shattuck Avenue since Sept. 26.

    The Marine Recruitment Center, which has been located in Berkeley since mid-2007, is the only military recruitment center in Berkeley.

    Proponents hope that this ordinance will become a template for communities around the country to follow.

    "We hope this is a model for other places," Adams said. "I have already gotten e-mails from people trying to duplicate this."

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    berkeley is home of the hippies

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    If they want to be hostile to the military, give them something to be hostile about. They aren't Americans. They are far more insidious enemies than most of these people we fight in foreign countries.

    Encourage them to secede, and then treat them as an enemy power. Blockade the Bay. Build a wall and set up checkpoints. If they get hungry, let them eat their sex toys.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Lighten up Francis..

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    Is Berkeley really a hotbed of military recruitment?

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    I have just signed a bill that will outlaw Berkeley forever. The bombing starts in five minutes.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I have just signed a bill that will outlaw Berkeley forever. The bombing starts in five minutes.
    I thought we could call you Francis...

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    I thought we could call you Francis...
    You can call me whatever you want as long as the hippies get nuked.

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    I rarely listen to Michael Savage, but he is spot on about some things. I just cannot stand him most the time, especially when he gets his panties bunched up.

    Still...

    He often talks about items, and he uses a term something like "the enemy within" and it's people like that who he refers, to.

    If you can get past his rants, and voice. He usually has some pointed things to say, and is often right. He is however very bigoted, so he does deviate from the truth sometimes.

    He is a kick to listed to if you're in the right pissed off mood...

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    Somehow I don't see the similarities between pornography and the military, except for the fact that they both kick ass and are necessary to my survival.

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    Berekely is filled with wierdos/maniacs/morons. Good school though, but the city itself needs to do some population cleansing.

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    Follow up to the story

    Local officials in this liberal city say it's time for the U.S. Marines to move out.

    The City Council has voted to tell the Marines their downtown recruiting station is not welcome and "if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests."

    The measure passed this week by a vote of 8-1.

    The council also voted to explore enforcing a city anti-discrimination law, focusing on the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

    In a separate item, the council voted, also 8-1, to give protest group Code Pink a parking space in front of the recruiting office once a week for six months and a free sound permit for protesting once a week.

    Marine Capt. Richard Lund of the recruiting office declined comment on the council action.

    The recruiting office opened in Berkeley about a year ago, operating quietly until about four months ago when Code Pink began regular sidewalk protests.

    "I believe in the Code Pink cause. The Marines don't belong here, they shouldn't have come here, and they should leave," said Berkeley Mayor Tom Bates.

    Code Pink is circulating pe ions to get a measure on the ballot in November making it more difficult to open military recruiting offices in Berkeley if they are near homes, parks, schools, churches, libraries or health clinics.

    Some employees and business owners aren't happy with the weekly protests.

    "My husband's business is right upstairs, and this (protesting) is bordering on harassment," Dori Schmidt told the council. "I hope this stops."


    And a Senator's response

    U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., says the City of Berkeley, Calif., no longer deserves federal money.

    DeMint was angered after learning that the Berkeley City Council voted this week to tell the U.S. Marine Corps to remove its recruiting station from the city's downtown.

    "This is a slap in the face to all brave service men and women and their families," DeMint said in a prepared statement. "The First Amendment gives the City of Berkeley the right to be idiotic, but from now on they should do it with their own money."

    "If the city can’t show respect for the Marines that have fought, bled and died for their freedom, Berkeley should not be receiving special taxpayer-funded handouts," he added.

    In the meantime, a senior Marine official tells FOX News that the Marine office in Berkeley isn't going anywhere.

    "We understand things are different there, but some people just don't get it. This is a part of the military machine that gives them the right to do what they do, but what they are doing is extreme," the official said.

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    Berkeley to Marine Corps: You're Not Welcome DeMint said he will draft legislation to rescind any earmarks dedicated for the City of Berkeley in the recently passed appropriations bill — which his office tallied to value about $2.1 million. He said that any money taken back would be transferred to the Marines.

    DeMint's office provided a preliminary list of items that would be subject to his proposal:

    — $975,000 for the University of California at Berkeley, for the Matsui Center for Politics and Public Service, which may include establishing an endowment, and for cataloguing the papers of Congressman Robert Matsui.

    — $750,000 for the Berkeley/Albana ferry service.

    — $243,000 for the Chez Panisse Foundation, for a school lunch initiative to integrate lessons about wellness, sustainability and nutrition into the academic curriculum.

    — $94,000 for a Berkeley public safety interoperability program.

    — $87,000 for the Berkeley Unified School District, nutrition education program.

    The Marine official, speaking with FOX News on Friday, said Marine Commandant Gen. James Conway scoffed at the news, but there are no plans for to protest the City Council's decisions. There are definitely no plans to move the recruiting station either.

    "To actually put something into law that encourages the disruption of a federal office is ridiculous. They are not going to kick a federal office out of its rightful place there, and this is not going to discourage those young patriots who want to be Marines," the official said.

    The Berkeley City Council this week voted to tell the Marines their downtown recruiting station is not welcome and "if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests," according to The Associated Press.

    The council also voted to explore whether a city anti-discrimination law applies to the Marines, with a focus on the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy that prevents open sexuality in the military.

    The council also voted to give the antiwar group Code Pink a parking space in front of the recruiting office once a week for six months, as well as a protest permit.

    The Marine recruiting office in Berkeley has been open for about one year, but has been the subject of recent protests by Code Pink members.

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