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    WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans.

    Clinton said such measures would apply only to workers who can afford health coverage but refuse to buy it, which puts undue pressure on hospitals and emergency rooms. With her proposals for subsidies, she said, "it will be affordable for everyone."

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080203/...ampaign_rdp_31


    Those people who can afford it but dont buy it arent the one's that are causing the problems at hospitals and emergency rooms.

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    It's so nice of the government to let us keep some of its money every now and then.

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    All your paychecks are belong to us.

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    Hey how bout we just turn it all over to them, let them pay
    everything. Credit card bills, car payment, house payment, on
    and on and on. And they just give us a weekly allowance. And
    we can all live like Kings. Right?

    Oh, they tried that in Russian didn't they and it didn't work.
    Nevermind.

    But you gotta know Billary and Obama and the rest of the
    crud in D.C. all know how to spend your money better than
    you....

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    You pay up already, out of local/state/federal taxes, for the costs of providing health care to millions of uninsured people who take dubya's advice and "just go to the emergency room" for all their health needs, often after they are much sicker and many times more expensive to treat. The anti-immigration mad dogs love to quote how many $Bs/year, just in CA, in health care provided free to illegal aliens. (but they seem quiet on the $2B/year in medical care fraud in CA by legit doctors and orgs, that's OK, it's how the game is played)

    The health care industry loves it because they get to sell more product and higher prices of a longer period, with the govt footing the bill reliably and on schedule.

    Why aren't you right wingers supporting "personal responsibility" of these poor people paying, probably a token sum, for timely, assured, no-cancellation health care, instead of you rich s who plonk down $10K+/year for your gold-plated plan?
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    Why aren't you right wingers supporting "personal responsibility" of these poor people paying, probably a token sum, for timely, assured, no-cancellation health care, instead of you rich s who plonk down $10K+/year for your gold-plated plan?
    Because when the govt. gets involved, it gets worse, not better.

    Also, if everyone in this country who has health insurance is "rich", then we are much better off than you let on.

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    You pay up already, out of local/state/federal taxes, for the costs of providing health care to millions of uninsured people who take dubya's advice and "just go to the emergency room" for all their health needs, often after they are much sicker and many times more expensive to treat. The anti-immigration mad dogs love to quote how many $Bs/year, just in CA, in health care provided free to illegal aliens. (but they seem quiet on the $2B/year in medical care fraud in CA by legit doctors and orgs, that's OK, it's how the game is played)

    The health care industry loves it because they get to sell more product and higher prices of a longer period, with the govt footing the bill reliably and on schedule.

    Why aren't you right wingers supporting "personal responsibility" of these poor people paying, probably a token sum, for timely, assured, no-cancellation health care, instead of you rich s who plonk down $10K+/year for your gold-plated plan?
    Is Boufon always in such an ugly mood? Poor dude. I dont pay for healthcare, I get mines for free!!

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    You pay up already, out of local/state/federal taxes, for the costs of providing health care to millions of uninsured people who take dubya's advice and "just go to the emergency room" for all their health needs, often after they are much sicker and many times more expensive to treat. The anti-immigration mad dogs love to quote how many $Bs/year, just in CA, in health care provided free to illegal aliens. (but they seem quiet on the $2B/year in medical care fraud in CA by legit doctors and orgs, that's OK, it's how the game is played)

    The health care industry loves it because they get to sell more product and higher prices of a longer period, with the govt footing the bill reliably and on schedule.

    Why aren't you right wingers supporting "personal responsibility" of these poor people paying, probably a token sum, for timely, assured, no-cancellation health care, instead of you rich s who plonk down $10K+/year for your gold-plated plan?
    I am still trying to find that part of the Cons ution that
    says they government is responsible for the health
    care, heating and housing of the people. Can someone
    please direct me to that part. Oh, I left out the
    legal cost for the poor. Is that in there somewhere?

    I thought we were suppose to care for the poor through
    charity.

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    Is Boufon always in such an ugly mood? Poor dude. I dont pay for healthcare, I get mines for free!!
    Naw he isn't always this way. Sometimes he really
    rants and have you noticed, he is bilingual. English
    and profane.

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    You all need to just pay your taxes and shut the up. How the do you all think we are paying for this war? and your roads? and bridges? Just shut up already!!

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    "an ugly mood?'

    -slapping right-wingers is nasty business. The for-profit health-care disaster we have allowed the "free market" to create is one ugly bas that needs aborting.

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    I'm still waiting for my government issued toilet paper.

    Apparently I can't wipe my own ass without their help.

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    WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans.

    Clinton said such measures would apply only to workers who can afford health coverage but refuse to buy it, which puts undue pressure on hospitals and emergency rooms. With her proposals for subsidies, she said, "it will be affordable for everyone."

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080203/...ampaign_rdp_31


    Those people who can afford it but dont buy it arent the one's that are causing the problems at hospitals and emergency rooms.
    You say it like this is new. She and I believe Edwards both proposed this kind of setup back in September or so. I think it's disgusting. Especially, what exactly is "can afford it".

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    One of the huge problems the doctors have with their patients is the patients not buying their prescribed drugs. As the co-pay goes up, the problem is worse.

    If the drug actually works (you can never be sure with Big Pharma), then people are preferring to be sicker and keep the money, probably calculating they'd rather have some more quality of life rather than less sickness.

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    I can't wait to see all of you righties in January when the dems take control of the country.. will any of you leave?

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    I can't wait to see all of you righties in January when the dems take control of the country.. will any of you leave?
    I doubt the right wingers are as sensitive and defeatist as the left was when Kerry lost and Canada was innundated with immigration applications...

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    Your wages are already garnished for health care (see the Medicare line). So would you get rid of Medicare and Medicaid, too?

    I am perplexed by the at ude of not paying taxes for the country you are proud of.

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    I doubt the right wingers are as sensitive and defeatist as the left was when Kerry lost and Canada was innundated with immigration applications...

    I hope your right because all of the moaning and complaining we will hear will be music to my ears...

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    Your wages are already garnished for health care (see the Medicare line). So would you get rid of Medicare and Medicaid, too?

    I am perplexed by the at ude of not paying taxes for the country you are proud of.
    I'm perplexed by the at ude that the government can better handle your finances than you can, even after it's been proven time and again it can't.

    Anyone with half a brain making at least 14k would be doing signicicantly better with these kind of things if the government wasn't stealing 35% or more of their paychecks. I know in my case, I'd have health insurance and more savings for retirement if the government was taking even just Social Security.

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    Yeah, it's much better to keep the system we have now and expect less service and pay a bigger price...I've advocated a single-payer system of national health insurance for all Americans for many years...

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    I hope your right because all of the moaning and complaining we will hear will be music to my ears...
    *shrug*

    I thought it was funny when Lefties did, it'll be funny if the Righties do. I doubt they would though. There would be talk about taking back the majorities and a call to war (so to speak) for conservatives.

    Personally, I think the Republicans win the Presidency again.

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    I'm perplexed by the at ude that the government can better handle your finances than you can, even after it's been proven time and again it can't.
    It's not about 'doing things yourself', it's about belonging to groups that help spread the costs...since not everyone gets sick at the same time.....

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