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Holt will take one look at Ben's contract and pass for a cheaper player.
Some have been taking about trading for Wallace and I'm little by little getting on that bandwagon given that he would really, really give us a defensive presence at center... that could go a long way to help us win again. Problem is we would have to give up way too many players to get him and I want to keep Finley and/or Barry as shooters for the play offs.
Would Chicago ask for a lot or would they just be happy to get him off the books?
Thoughts?
Holt will take one look at Ben's contract and pass for a cheaper player.
Who? I really think that pearing up Duncan with a legit center is a priority if we are going to win this year... defense, defense, defense.
The wheels are already coming off.
The lack of a legit center really killed us in 2005 and 2007. Duncan just can't get it done without Robinson, can he.
I've actually pondered such a trade. It'd look something like:
Spurs Trade
Brent Barry
Francisco Elson
Robert Horry
Jacque Vaughn
Matt Bonner
Bulls Trade
Ben Wallace
Tyrus Thomas
First Round Pick
That trade would be a dream come true for the Bulls because they'd be able to get rid of Wallace's contract. The Spurs have enough flexibility going forward to handle having Wallace's contract on their books.
The problem is that Wallace sucks now. He's done. If this were the Ben Wallace of 2005, I'd probably do this trade. But Wallace is a s of that player and the thought of him being on the books for two more seasons is scary.
Wasn't Ben Wallace pondering the Spurs before signing with the Bulls. If they would take Bonner, Berry, and Elson for him I say get'er done.
i like ben...but i would pass on this deal. i forsee nothing but diminshing returns on that investment...
At the right price? Sure.
At anything near what he's making right now? lls na. He's not even that good anymore.
I don't care how diminished Ben is...if he was on one leg and blind in one eye, he'd outrebound elson by 5 a game.
Absolute lunacy wanting him.
Like TIMVP said. Hes beyond done.
Way too expensive. Oberto gives more "center per dollar" than Ben does.
We simply can't afford another offensively challenged player. Wallace is one of the worst scorers of all time.
Sidenote...
Did somebody tell him he can play offense?
From the few games of his I've seen this year, he's been posting up, driving, and I swear to god I saw him pop out in the corner for a three. And the shot-clock was NOT running down.
Ben always thought he was a complete player.
Next idea! This flailing around for any trade for any one at any salary is getting beyond belief.
If the team craters this year, so be it. Let's go into next year with flexible salary situation and a clear idea of where we can shore up. Emergency panic moves never succeed in the short term and bite you in the ass for the long term.
Wallace's contract would come off in 2010...
I'm here in Chicago , and Ben Wallace is done . He is totally lifeless. I think he left his game in Detroit. Pass!
...but his contract still sucks too much.
To be fair to people looking at trades, the Spurs flexibility will be a lot higher before the trade deadline this season. In the summer, the Spurs won't have nearly the same flexibility.
Some of the Ben is done talk has me wondering if he simply needs to play in a different system. I'd bet we'd see a better Ben on SA than what we are seeing in Chicago. However his contract scares the crap out of me. A #1 and Thomas would help me get over it though.
I agree. He could pull a Randy Moss.
But Moss did it with a huge paycut. Nobody wants to pay Ben's salary.
That was an awful signing the moment Chicago made it. He's making way too much money and is sinking into old age.
You guys just need to keep in mind that this is what SA always does.
Stay pat and say "we want the offseason flexability" rather than trade for piece now
off season comes
no free agents (unless they're on their last leg) have any interest in signing
Spurs blow money on 2nd or 3rd rate sub just to do something vs. nothing
Player blows and never lives up to expectation
Crap players contract ends
Spurs do nothing because they want offseason flexiblity
Rinse reapeat and so forth.
They should have traded for Mags last season. :sourgrapesmelting:
and they keep winning championships.
Yeah a horrible franchise to root for no question.
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