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pfft. Pop didn't burn anything. Cash would make it all better.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...eal_with_nets/
Mike Miller for Magloire and Snackbar...
This after Pops burned his bridges with Memphis
pfft. Pop didn't burn anything. Cash would make it all better.
Give the rich man money and he changes his mind.
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Damn saw chump posted the same thing.
I don't know if the Spurs are looking at Miller, but the owner wants payroll cut, so they more than likely would still be all ears.
That would suck. It just means the Spurs don't want to get anything done. Don't shake up chemistry, don't add another player making such a chunk of salary cap.
This does show how little it could take to get Mike Miller, but it suggests the Spurs won't use what they have to get talent. As always, their considerations are elsewhere.
And, again, Pop's comments on the Gasol trade are suggestion enough there are no negotiations in place with Memphis.
Well, if the Spurs aren't going to land him, I'm glad he's going east.
Mike Miller for Magloire and Snackbar...
This after Pops burned his bridges with Memphis
Agreed. If he cnat go to SA, go to New Jersey where he would not be used at all.
Could it conceivably be true that the Spurs aren't actually interested in Mike Miller? I mean, that the Spurs have evaluated their roster and concluded that they have greater needs or that Mike Miller doesn't adequately fill a need? I hate to bring rampant optimism into a thread yearning for pessimism, but I just wonder if it's at all conceivable to anyone other than me that the Spurs might not actually feel that they want or need Mike Miller.
Yeah, it's kind of a waste of time to guess exactly what the Spurs are looking for -- but that won't stop me from acting like I know what's best for them.
No, I also think it's more than likely the Spurs don't actually want Mike Miller. While this is highly frustrating for some of us, obviously they know what they want and their track record speaks for itself. As far as I know, there's been no indication that he's a player they care about; he's just a guy someone mentioned here and the board caught fire a little. We see a fantastic shooter who rebounds and is athletic, with some years left, entering his prime, with pretty good size, but he's also expensive year-by-year, and may not fit the Spurs/Scientology space-metric. That's fine, although from the great distance where I sit, I don't see a vast difference between him and Barry, with greater rebounding and less ball-handling. I still would like a trade of some kind to shore up the team.
I see one vast difference between Miller and Barry. $4,000,000. Miller's at roughly $9,000,000 Barry's at $5,000,000. That's a decent reserve, or looking at our present roster, a starter (Finley, Bowen, Oberto).
Last edited by pad300; 02-14-2008 at 07:08 PM.
Yeah, I've said numerous times elsewhere that it's the money that is chasing the Spurs away.
No one we could pick up will help us this year. It takes players a year to pick up the system. Pop already said that Damon, who he considers smart, won't "get it" even by the playoffs this year. It would be like playing a back up QB in the NFL: the playbook would be drastically curtailed whenever player A was in the game, including the playoffs.
It makes few sense for nets to go after Miller unless they trade Jefferson or Carter.
There has also been a rumor that Heat were interested in Miller.
It's almost sure that Spurs have tried to get Miller given that it has been reported by Ludden who is the most reliable source about Spurs.
Are Spurs still trying to get him or have they given up for some reasons ? Nobody knows.
A Miller deal seems like the type that won't go down until the deadline.
I'm sure the Spurs are working on something, and I'm sure we won't hear about it unless it actually happens.
I don't see the Spurs moving Horry or Finley out of those with expiring contracts.
Barry and Elson have to be expendable. Elson, the most.
Bonner, Vaughn, and Mahinmi could find themselves in the mix depending on salaries and what is needed to get it done.
miller in a spurs uniform is redundant. there's already a slew of 3 point shooters on the team. if there's going to be a trade, its gonna be a replacement for elson. its also the most wise since its the one that would coz the least amount of negative impact in terms of team chemistry, and the most benefit if it works out well.
replacing someone who is in the rotation, like finley and barry, would disrupt things too much.
Replacing Barry would be quite easy seeing as he doesn't play.replacing someone who is in the rotation, like finley and barry, would disrupt things too much.
i know the Nuggets are trying to deal nene for exp contracts and then send them to memphis for miller/lowry
As for rumours, there is one that the nuggets could get miller and artest........... but i think its crap
JR Smith said the Nuggets "aren't making any trades"
I figured their interest in Mike Miller was a long-shot, at best - especially after Pop's rant. A rant that could very well have been premeditated by the CIA man.
I highly doubt they'll look to add another swingman now - especially if it means utilizing Barry's expiring contract.
I'll keep saying it over and over. For this team and for purposes of adding a different, yet more attractive skill set, I like Corey Maggette. Of course, he'll probably be out of their price range this summer.
I am not sure if Mike Miller is a need for the Spurs more than a nice to have for a very very high price.
What Miller provides is outside shooting and rebounding, he is also poor on defense and TO prone.
Barry, when healthy, has slightly better shooting than him, worse rebounding, slightly worse defense, and a much better basketball IQ. Barry can be the backup PG on a pinch.
On the financial side, Miller makes $8.25 M this year, $9 next year, and $9.75 in 2010, while Barry and Elson come off the books at the end of this year (providing we are talking Elson and Barry for Miller, allowing Memphis to dumb salary).
So what we are talking about is basically killing the Spurs cap flexibility ($18.75M for two years) for a slightly improved Barry.
This is a of a lot of money for a role player type, who would also need to relearn the whole system in a very short period of time.
Besides, the Spurs need interior rebounder who has quickness to defend the new age PFs and also the range to stick a long jumper to open up the lanes. The hope is to get a younger Robert Horry, but players of that basketball IQ don't just stroll around waiting to be signed, Matt Bonner has proved to be a mistake. So far, they are still searching.
Would Channing Frye be that target? Would Mahinmi or Splitter grow into that role? I hope at least some of that would come true.
Hopefully he is part of one and thats the reason why GK is showcasing him
What cap flexibility?So what we are talking about is basically killing the Spurs cap flexibility
Bring him on.Hopefully he is part of one and thats the reason why GK is showcasing him
Ill trade Elson for him.
What cap flexibility?So what we are talking about is basically killing the Spurs cap flexibility ($18.75M for two years) for a slightly improved Barry.
Personally, I would definitely take an improved Barry who isn't even 28 years old yet.
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