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Magloire in stead of Diop
Kidd in stead of Harris
Barry or Cassel
They wouldn't look as dumb as they looked after the Kidd trade
By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
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Updated: February 26, 2008, 7:16 AM ET
The Dallas Mavericks appear to be tops on the list for soon-to-be free agent Jamaal Magloire, according to NBA front-office sources.
Sources told ESPN.com that the 6-11 center is strongly leaning toward signing with the Mavericks this week and that a binding decision could come as early as Tuesday, with the 29-year-old scheduled to clear waivers at 6 p.m.
Magloire was waived by New Jersey on Friday after the trading deadline passed. Although he was expected to supply the Nets with some much-needed bulk and experience on the front line, Magloire only managed to get into 24 games for the Nets, averaging a mere 1.8 points and 3.4 rebounds.
But Dallas has a fresh opening for a proven center after being forced to part with DeSagana Diop in its recent trade for Jason Kidd. Erick Dampier is the only true center left on the Mavs' roster.
After earning a surprise spot on the Eastern Conference All-Star team in 2004, Magloire has struggled to stay put, lasting just one season each in Milwaukee and Portland before signing a one-year deal with the Nets last summer worth $4 million. But the recent influx of size in the Western Conference after a flurry of trades this month has apparently created a new job market for him.
"I've never seen a guy work so hard when he isn't playing," Mavericks guard Jason Kidd said Monday night in Dallas of Magloire, who was Kidd's teammate with the Nets as recently as a week ago.
"If that were to happen [Dallas signing Magloire], I still think he has something left in the tank."
The Mavericks are also among the playoff contenders lining up to sign veteran guard Brent Barry, who was waived last week by Seattle after the Sonics acquired Barry, Francisco Elson and a 2009 first-round pick in a swap with San Antonio for Kurt Thomas. But Phoenix, Houston, Golden State and Boston -- as well as the Spurs, who must wait 30 days to re-sign him according to league rules -- are also making a strong push for Barry.
Marc Stein is the senior NBA writer for ESPN.com.
Magloire in stead of Diop
Kidd in stead of Harris
Barry or Cassel
They wouldn't look as dumb as they looked after the Kidd trade
Yea, getting Magloire and Cassell would be quite nice. I like Barry a lot, but I'd rather have Cassell, cus he can shoot his butt off too, is capable of scoring 20 any given night to give the bench some more firepower and veteran leadership, and he is capable of running the offense when Kidd is out.
PG - Kidd, Cassell
SG - Terry, Stackhouse
SF - Howard, George
PF - Nowitzki, Bass
C - Dampier, Magliore
That is a very nice lineup for the playoffs. Hopefully Howard and George will get their act together, and stop trying to do too much. Those two guys are hurting us a lot, but when they play like the role players they are, they can be effective contributors.
It would be a nice pickup for the Mavs. They need a big body and 6 fouls behind Dampier. Anything else he adds will be a bonus.
16 rebounds and 7 blocks? Can Kidd continue to make Dampier look like an actual NBA center?
I've always liked Dampier. Never have figured out why Mono is so hard on him.
It's because $10 million a year gets you 7 and 7.
Damper has sucked until Kidd came around. He's been a useless who was getting paid $10 Million plus per year to set picks & drop passes. Seriously, you've always liked Dampier? Is that just homer talk? It's gotta be.
It's really embarrassing that a big ass contract couldn't motivate Damp to play this well. But he's playing great right now and I hope it continues. Whatever Kidd is doing, it's working miracles. Dampier is actually giving a out there.
No, really, tell me how you really feel (you rectal wart).
I love getting a rise out of Mono.
How come the teams you root for always lose? Can you change your team to San Antonio for Thursdays game?
Thanks.
Dampier has sucked. He has terrible hands and no touch. If we sign Magliore then I have a feeling he will start by the end of the year. We will see.
what's funny is how little this knows about anything sports related. Which is why he avoids any kind of actual discussion and just resorts to using my name to get attention.No, really, tell me how you really feel (you rectal wart).
I love getting a rise out of Mono.
How come the teams you root for always lose? Can you change your team to San Antonio for Thursdays game?
Thanks.
What's funny is I have said before, there is more to Dampier than stats. The offense functions better when he's playing. That's good that he's racking up stats now, but that's never been a big part of what he does that helps the team. You sure are quick saying that people don't know anything about sports, with some of the dumb that spews from your mouth.
Dampier has always been a solid role player. His flaw is his effort level. Sometimes he just goes through the motions and loses interest. Right now with Kidd giving him the ball, he is much more inspired. Without Dampier, we are screwed though as he is difference between the mavs of now and the 03-04 mavs.
Haha, who the F are you? People knowing your name isn't always a good thing. Everyone knows Kevin Federline's name too.
I know a lot of Mavs fans want Magloire, but does he really have anything left? I know there aren't a lot of options right now, so I guess he's better than nothing.
Example? Or did you just read Jean-Jacques Taylor and run with whatever he said?
He "sets picks", he "takes up space"........throw out all the usual Dampier defenses that you've read from everybody else already. That's great. And that STILL is not enough to warrant paying him $10 Million a year .
("I don't care, Cuban's paying it!......Salary cap? What's that?")
Um, he scored 6 points last night, which is lower than what he usually averages in his Mavs career.
It's not about scoring, it's about the energy he's putting out there. It's about the way he's fighting for loose balls now. It's about the way he makes faster rotations on defense now. It's things you would get if you, ya know, actually watched the game and wasn't distracted by the Mavs pom-poms you wave around.
It's a shame it's taken this long to get him motivated enough to give 100% every game, but I'll take it. Although if your entire knowlege of the Mavericks is "Mavs rule! Spurs suck! WHoooooooHoooooooo!" then I can understand why you would have "always liked Dampier".
Let's all remember that time you tried to prove to me that you knew your about basketball and promptly showed everybody otherwise by calling Devin Harris a "superstar".
No offense, but are you a female? Not that all females are bad sports fans, many are not, but the way you root for the Mavericks is exactly like the generic office chick who is always yelling "Go Mavs!" and screams loudly whenever JJ Barea walks into the game, talks about how "awesome" Dampier is, wears a pink Dirk jersey, says "what foul??!?!?!?" when Stackhouse body checks a guy into the crowd, and then says "who's that?" when Malik Allen walks onto the court.
Dampier is the main reason the Mavs defense went from being one of the worst in the league, to top 5 in defensive efficency last year. That man changes our defense like nothing we have had, and you can see it this year as well when AJ goes with the Dirk/Bass lineup. He is not here for his offense, get that in your mind.
People hate him for his contract. Two things here:
1) Centers are overpaid in this league compared to other positions. They will always be. It's a rare commodity to have someone who can defend the rim, and that is why they demand that kind of money. Ben Wallace is wayyyy worse in offense than Damp and still gets about 13-14 mill. The list goes on, Jerome James, Theo Rattlif, Nene, LaFrentz....
2) Why do you give a how much he makes. It's not like you are paying. I would rather have Damp than not have him, for any price. The Mavs are not going under the cap anytime soon so it's not like we are getting flexibility if we reduce his contract.
I'm pretty sure ratm1221 was the annoying chick sitting behind me at the game last night. And ear-shattering scream for JJ Barea, and then confusion when Devean George came into the game because "I thought we traded Devin?"
He was alright until last year. This year was the dropoff. But people in NJ say he just fell out of favor with the the staff because of the youth movement, and them wanting a high post guy more. But Kidd and Malik Allen have strongly backed a possible acquisition. They say he still worked very hard in practice and in the weight room. We want him for 15-20 minutes max, to bang around Timmy, Bynum and Shaq. He is good for that I think. Plus he has better hands than Damp, so he might finish a little more around the rim.
Dampier's defense looks great when going against undisciplined teams with low B-ball IQ.
His laziness, inability to read pick-n-rolls, and complete lethargy in rotating on defense is one of the main reasons guys like Amare absolutely rape the Mavericks.
One of the reasons Dirk gets abused on defense from time to time is because he's running around all over the place making up for Dampier's inefficiency. One of the reasons Diop could look so good is because of his actual effort put forth.
Now Dirk/Bass is no solution at center. Neither of them have Damp's strength. But to call Dampier a big reason this team is improved on defense is just ignorant. Dirk's defensive improvement, along with the additions of Howard & Devin Harris, and Avery's defensive emphasis were the biggest factors.
A motivated Dampier is a great asset. But when he isn't motivated, there is very little redeeming values to his game other than the very weak excuses of "he sets picks!" and "he does stuff you don't see!" which is a complete lie, because in truth, he actually DOESN'T do those things with regularity.
In the first half I was across the aisle from some annoying 8-year-old fetus that clapped those thundersticks together incessantly. Whoever invented thundersticks should be hunted for sport.
I wondered about that too. He's only 29 years old, and Kidd says he can contribute. If he thought Magloire wasn't an upgrade over Juwan Howard, I'm sure he wouldn't speak up. Looking at his game logs, the guy can still rebound when given minutes. We only need somebody who can come in and play 15-20 minutes a game for when Dampier is in foul trouble.
I also love how Kidd is making a concerted effort to show Damp some love and get him involved. If he can make Dampier a better player and more of a presence, that makes us that much better. Everybody on this team is playing better because of Kidd, with the sole exception of Josh, who I figured was the most natural running partner. He's the lone guy who hasn't figured it out yet. He's been a total ballstopper and a black hole when the ball comes his way. He doesn't slash to the hoop, he's just completely fallen in love with his mediocre jumper. Now that it looks like we're getting a replacement for Diop, I feel like we have a fighting chance to come out of the West, although we shouldn't be favorites. But unless Josh gets his head out of his ass, we won't be doing any damage in the playoffs.
Even though i see Mags as fallen off the NBA radar the past 2-3 years, his size and length is alot better to have at the center spot than Ju-Ho or Bass. His D is no where near Diops but is still a much better option than what we have. as people haven noted, it is 6 more fouls at center spot...at least this guy has some low post moves and has a left hand. if Kidd dumps him a pass, he wont do a soft 1ft layup like Diop, Mags will dunk it
i know Kidd and Allen say he has been working hard, but my concern is what shape he is in after not playing for a month+..but i guess at 10-12 min as a backup conditioning shouldnt be as much as a factor if he was playing more minutes
So, is it a good thing that everyone thinks I'm a man?
I never know whether I should take it as a compliment or not.
His giant contract also makes him virtually untouchable in most trade scenarios. Not only is it a bad contract, but it's an albatross.
If he keeps playing motivated, I think he's valuable to the team.
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