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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    ...we screwed up because of our partisan agenda and due to our hatred of George W. Bush.

    CBS is a pack of liars report

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    CBS Memogate is causing heads to roll. Mary Mapes is the most notable. Dan was already told to retire or his name would be on there too. Good ridance!!!!

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    we screwed up because of our partisan agenda and due to our hatred of George W. Bush.
    yeah, even though the panel found there were no political motivations for running the segment
    However, the Panel cannot conclude that a political agenda at 60 Minutes Wednesday drove either the timing of the airing of the Segment or its content. Given that the Panel does not believe that political motivations drove the September 8 Segment, questions likely will be raised as to why these massive breakdowns occurred on this story at an organization like CBS News with its heritage and stated commitment to the highest standards of journalism.
    The Panel does not find a basis to accuse those who investigated, produced, vetted or aired the Segment of having a political bias.
    It should be noted that 60 Minutes Wednesday was hardly alone in pursuing the story. Other mainstream media, including USA TODAY, The New York Times and The Associated Press, were pursuing the same story in what was clearly a compe ive race to be first.
    USA TODAY on September 9 published a similar story relying on the same Killian do ents, but has not been as criticized for its story as CBS News has been for the September 8 Segment.
    and finally...
    The Panel has not been able to conclude with absolute certainty whether the Killian do ents are authentic or forgeries.
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    The relief is that this shows the media is still capable of doing the right thing when necessary. Having their feet held to the fire probably helped a bit, too.

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    The relief is that this shows the media is still capable of doing the right thing when necessary. Having their feet held to the fire probably helped a bit, too.
    The right thing? Is Dan Blather still on the air?

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    The relief is that this shows the media is still capable of doing the right thing when necessary. Having their feet held to the fire probably helped a bit, too.
    They are capable of doing the right things only when their wallets are held to the fire Joe! Nothing honorable about that! CBS is feeling the heat through lost revenues. Don't kid yourself. The public, when riled, is a powerful force!

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    Well it works for me. O'Reilly is still on the air and he was busted so many times so what where is the justice in that?

    And besides, isn't the government making up news itself by paying reporters?

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    O'Reilly's been busted? He's an opinion journalist, not a reporter. What could he have been busted on?

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    O'Reilly's been busted? He's an opinion journalist, not a reporter. What could he have been busted on?
    sigh. another misinformed. well, here are 10 things, just to satisfy your curiosity: link

    1. O'Reilly falsely claimed Bush didn't oppose 9-11 Commission. O'Reilly defended President George W. Bush from a Kerry-Edwards '04 TV ad highlighting Bush's opposition to creation of the 9-11 Commission by denying that Bush had ever opposed the commission. In fact, Bush did oppose the creation of the 9-11 Commission. (10/21/04)

    2. O'Reilly falsely claimed Iraq had ricin. O'Reilly responded to a caller to his radio show by defending the Iraq war: "They did have ricin up there in the north -- so why are you discounting that so much?" In fact, the Duelfer report (the final report of the Iraqi Survey Group, led by Charles A. Duelfer, which conducted the search for weapons in Iraq following the U.S.-led invasion) indicates that Iraq did not have ricin. (10/19/04)

    3. O'Reilly repeated discredited claims on Iraq-Al Qaeda link. O'Reilly interrupted a former Clinton administration official who tried to correct the record on O'Reilly's claim that terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi cons utes a direct link between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's Iraq. He also allowed a conservative guest to repeat without challenge other discredited claims about Iraq's supposed involvement in terrorism -- claims O'Reilly has himself cited in the past. (9/27/04)

    4. O'Reilly fabricated "Paris Business Review" as source for success of French boycott. O'Reilly falsely claimed "they've lost billions of dollars in France according to 'The Paris Business Review'" due to an American boycott he advocated of French imports. Media Matters for America found no evidence of a publication named "The Paris Business Review." (4/27/04)

    5. O'Reilly cited phony stats to argue that taxes on rich are excessive. O'Reilly tried to "blow off" the argument that wealthy Americans ought to pay more taxes by citing phony statistics about the tax burden the rich currently bear. (6/30/04)

    6. O'Reilly confused on elementary economics. O'Reilly told a caller on his radio show, "We [the United States] have a trade deficit with everybody, because everybody wants our stuff, and we're not wild about snails" -- indicating that he doesn't know the definition of "trade deficit" and implying that the United States runs a trade surplus with France. In fact, in the first four months of 2004, the United States had a $3 billion trade deficit with France. (6/10/04)

    7. O'Reilly doctored quotation to suggest Soros wished his own father dead. During his smear campaign against progressive financier, philanthropist, and political activist George Soros, O'Reilly doctored a 1995 quotation by Soros to make it seem as if Soros wished his own father dead. (6/1/04)

    8. O'Reilly questioned if Kennedy would show up to Democratic convention ... as Kennedy spoke behind him. O'Reilly teased an upcoming segment of The O'Reilly Factor, broadcast live from the Democratic National Convention, by saying of convention speaker Senator Edward Kennedy: "When we come back, we'll let you listen to Ted Kennedy for a while, if he shows up." In fact, Kennedy had already shown up and had been speaking for several minutes, as O'Reilly need only have turned around to see. (7/27/04)

    9. O'Reilly disparaged Democrats with trifecta of voter falsehoods. In a discussion about what went wrong for Democrats in the November 2 election, O'Reilly claimed that Democrats "lost votes from four years ago"; that "18- to 24[-year-old]s didn't go" to the polls; and that "[c]ommitted Republicans didn't carry the day for the president; independents did." All three claims are false. (11/4/04)

    10. O'Reilly on the radio: Three lies, one broadcast. Lie No. 1: Bush tax cuts didn't create the budget deficit. Lie No. 2: "Socialistic" French, Germans, and Canadian governments tax at 80 percent. Lie No. 3: Canadian, British, and French media are "government-controlled," but Italian media is free. (7/7/04)

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    That's what I'm talkin' about, right there!!

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    sigh. another misinformed.
    Um, no. I just know the difference between a reporter and an opinion journalist. You can make a list like that for any pundit.

    Dan Rather REPORTED a story using unreliable sources. Bill O'Reilly gives his slant on stories that are reported by others, and his opinions are often backed by bogus claims or misinformation. But in the end, he's paid for his opinions. Rather is paid for reporting the news.

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    Um, no. I just know the difference between a reporter and an opinion journalist. You can make a list like that for any pundit.
    maybe you should read the questions you posted...all i did was answer them since you were so unaware O'Reilly had been busted...its off topic anyways

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    Spurminator is correct! Know the difference. Al Franken fits into the same category.

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    o? the difference wasnt in question. read spurminators QUESTIONS

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    The context of the thread is false reporting, which is what I was asking. Yes, this website appears to have "busted" B.O. on misleading and inaccurate statements. But because he's an Opinion-ist, it's not as important, and that's why nobody cares.

    Plus, it's Bill ing O'Reilly, so who cares anyway?

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    lol all i did was answer your questions about o'reilly...but it is off topic, so...back to CBS

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    "Plus, it's Bill ing O'Reilly, so who cares anyway?".........................There ya go Buckwheat!

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    You clearly didn't understand the questions you were trying to answer. All you did was bolster what I already said: Bill O'Reilly is not a reporter.

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    So, again I ask, why the does Dan Rather still have a job?

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    Seniority.

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    So, again I ask, why the does Dan Rather still have a job?
    Bill taught him how to "hang on".

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    Don't worry! Dan's still on the job

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    "so ... now the news is fixed."

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    So, again I ask, why the does Dan Rather still have a job?
    As far as I know, modern televisions are still equipped with at least two knobs (buttons if you will).

    One of them changes the channel, and the other one turns it off.

    Why does anyone care if Dan Rather still has a job?

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