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The real question is:
Have you noticed how much better the Mavs defense is with J-kidd? They only gave up 116 to the Jazz
The Suns only gave up 126 last night to the Nuggets!
1 and done my friend, 1 and done.
The real question is:
Have you noticed how much better the Mavs defense is with J-kidd? They only gave up 116 to the Jazz
Huge mistake. They could have gotten much better for Marion.
Can you imagine if Dallas falls to the eight spot, San Antonio stays at # 1 and we have a first round match up of Spurs vs Mavs??? That would be awesome.
West Outcome Prediction:
1-spurs
2-lakers
3-hornets
4-mavs
5-jazz
6-rockets
7-warriors
8-suns
WOULDNT IT BE AWESOME FOR THE WARRIORS TO KNOCK OUT THE LAKERS IN THE FIRST ROUND???
Can someone link me to that Suns board, want to see the melt that must occuring over there.
yeah, the prevailing notion is that they MISS MARION a lot more than they though they would - DUH!
Well first of all the schedule suggest that the Mavs will probably land somewhere around the 4th to 6th seed. However, if i was Cuban i would order Avery Johnson to make sure that if we can not get to the 4th seed that we try to get the Spurs in the first round, say 7th vs 2nd seed. Because home court means very little in that series. And if the Mavs were to win then they would get the winner of the 3 seed (say Hornets? vs Houston or Suns?) The Mavs could win that series too.
Last year the Mavs were stupid for beating the Clippers at the end of the year and not really trying to beat the Warriors at the end of the season. If they reversed those they could have played the Clippers in the first round and it would be a completely different story.
It's all about positioning this year.
Thanks thanks.
yes and the suns gave up 113 to the Grizz w/ Shaq
and the mavs gave up 83 to the Grizz w/ Kidd
LOL exactly, most intelligent fans were saying this when the trade was on the table. What made me laugh the most was when the majority of the so called "Experts" said this was a bad move with conviction. Then Shaq does his press conference and other interviews and talks his usual brand of trash, saying how he "Will prove everyone wrong, he can still play", blah, blah and because he is such a media darling half of the Experts changed their tune. Said the deal was going to work out after all. Now of course they have all jumped off the Shaq daddy, happy meal express and are killing him.
haha that place will be awesome come playoff time!
The Suns are basically playing 4 against 5 with Shaq in the game because he's usually plodding somewhere around half-court panting.
He leaves a giant hole in the middle when he's not getting back on defense, and when he does manage to get back on offense there's only about 8 seconds left on the shot clock, and if he's fouled, forget about points from him off free throws.
I almost feel sorry for the Suns. Almost.
Suns could have gotten someone a lot better for their team and system than Shaq for Marion.
Nash is struggling and the most telling stat is his assists totals since Shaq got brought in. I know it's going to take a while to get him acclimated into their offensive scheme, but my goodness, Amare Stoudamaire should be ashamed of himself.
I have never seen a guy run so fast up the court on offense, and plod so slowly down the court on defense. It's almost comical. One sequence last night against the Nuggets, Stoudamire swishes a shot right inside the 3 point line, keeps his hands up admiring his shot and follow-through. Meanwhile, his man Keyon Martin runs down court for an easy layup. Even Hubie Brown called him out on that. If I were a Suns fan, Stoudamire would be the most disapointing player on my team...they should have traded him for KG when they had the chance and kept Marion.
the only #s going up for suns after shaq trade have been opp ppg, opp fg % and cost of team snacks
@ cost of team snacks.
This surrounding the Suns is laughable - especially given all the -talking that Shaq did during his first press conference. It's clear that his declining skills and motor mouth are totally not in sync. I really love the comment of "....when I get angry, I've been known to go out and do certain things - like win championships". Give me a in' break. He's obviously the last to know that he's no longer a factor in a meaningful NBA game.
By the time the season is over the Rockets will have the third seed behind LA and SA.
I kind of feel sorry for the guy, then i remember that he is a multimillionaire.
Since Shaq's debut with the Suns, their opponents have averaged 112 points per game against them. Those opponents average 100.6 ppg for the season.
In five of these eight games, the opponent exceeded its season scoring average by 18 or more.
Oh, and Phoenix is scoring 3 fewer ppg than their season average since Shaq's debut.
You guys are complete morons if you think this is all Shaq's fault. Marion's departure has revealed that Nash, Amare, and everyone else besides maybe Grant Hill, are worse defenders than we thought they were. Shaq's actually putting in the effort, it's everyone else (again, minus Grant Hill, who is a ing stud) that's dogging it. Nash looks older than over, Bell is looking tired, Barbosa has regressed from last year, Amare slacks on D, D'Antoni is the worst coach on a contending team in the league, and our starters are all playing 35 minutes or more a night.
We have 99 problems, but the Diesel ain't one.
I think that Shaq gives them a physical presence inside, but if you draw him out, its worthless. The Suns have to figure it out and quick if they want a chance to compete for the Finals.
I don't know why it's so hard for Sun fan to understand. It was a BAD trade, you traded a great asset for a slow antique.
Suns gameplan was run n gun, offense, offense, offense. 7 seconds or less. remember.
now they are trying to change everyting is like teaching a cat to walk on 2 legs. it ain't happening. So YES, they are playing worse WITH SHAQ. that is a fact.
he might be hustling, but it is because of that trade and because of him that they are struggling. how hard is it to understand??
Anyone with common sense knew it was a bad trade. and ESPN has no common sense BTW
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