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    For the fifth time in three days Hillary has said that McCain is more qualified than Obama to be president. How does this play if she's not the Democratic nominee?

    1. "There are certain critical issues that voters always look to in a general election. National security experience (and) the qualifications to be commander-in-chief are front and center. They always have been. They always will be," she said.

    She said she and McCain had traveled to Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan together as she repeated a line that surfaced from the campaign trail. She and McCain "bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign, Clinton said, while "Sen. Obama will bring a speech he gave in 2002," stating his opposition to the Iraq war as an Illinois state senator.

    2. "[McCain has] never been president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002."

    3. "I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience that he will bring to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002."

    4. "Of course, well, you know, I've got a lifetime of experience. Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience. And you know, Senator Obama's whole campaign is about one speech he made in 2002."
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    5. "I think that since we now know Sen. (John) McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that. And I think it’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold," the New York senator told reporters crowded into an infant’s bedroom-sized hotel conference room in Washington.

    "I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy," she said.
    Damn. She's willing to take down the entire party in pursuit of her ambitions.

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    For the fifth time in three days Hillary has said that McCain is more qualified than Obama to be president. How does this play if she's not the Democratic nominee?



    And most recently -



    Damn. She's willing to take down the entire party in pursuit of her ambitions.
    Nope, but if she makes him unelectable because of what she says....

    (or maybe does she understand, even though many Dems don't seem to, that Barrack, in fact, is NOT qualified)

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    (or maybe does she understand, even though many Dems don't seem to, that Barrack, in fact, is NOT qualified)
    Yes, I'm sure her reason for saying these things is because she has concerns about Obama's qualifications for the job and is only looking out for the best interests of the country.

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    If someone could explain to me why Hillary is any more qualified to run this country than Barack Obama, I'd appreciate it. Because her decision making, campaign operation, and staff management all indicate otherwise.

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    If someone could explain to me why Hillary is any more qualified to run this country than Barack Obama, I'd appreciate it. Because her decision making, campaign operation, and staff management all indicate otherwise.
    Sorry; I don't believe either Democrat candidate to be qualified.

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    If someone could explain to me why Hillary is any more qualified to run this country than Barack Obama, I'd appreciate it. Because her decision making, campaign operation, and staff management all indicate otherwise.
    How dare you. She was the first lady for crissakes. She flew into Bosnia and placed her life in danger (along with those of Sinbad and Sheryl Crow who were also on the USO tour plane). She ran for the Senate against popular NY mayor Giuliani (that is until he dropped out of the race after getting cancer). She has 35 years of experience (including a nice run on the board of Walmart while they were busting unions and a posh gig at a corporate law firm).

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    She's a second term senator while he's a first term. He built his political career on his own. She rode her husband's coattails while her husband rode...nevermind.

    It's amusing how she's experienced and qualified because she's experienced and qualified. I guess if you repeat something often enough it becomes fact.

    I can't say that there are many policy viewpoints I actually share with Senator Obama on, but I definitely prefer him to his intra-party rival. Should she win, America faces 30 straight years of one member of two families residing in the White House. What country is this, again?

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    How dare you. She was the first lady for crissakes. She flew into Bosnia and placed her life in danger (along with those of Sinbad and Sheryl Crow who were also on the USO tour plane). She ran for the Senate against popular NY mayor Giuliani (that is until he dropped out of the race after getting cancer). She has 35 years of experience (including a nice run on the board of Walmart while they were busting unions and a posh gig at a corporate law firm).
    How much of that experience was not tied to her husband's career?

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    The unfortunate truth of Her Majesty's campaign is that she has a fair amount of support from Democrats who do not want to vote for a black man for president.

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    I honestly thought that she knew she didn't really have a chance, and that she was just staying in the race to push the party's hand at making her the Senate Majority leader. But I don't know what the heck she has up her sleeve now.

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    more experience in politics just means you owe more favors to the people that got you there and that is all experience means in these races.

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    Nope, but if she makes him unelectable because of what she says....

    (or maybe does she understand, even though many Dems don't seem to, that Barrack, in fact, is NOT qualified)
    I reject this "foreign policy experience" notion entirely. How much foreign policy experience did Abraham Lincoln have?

    We're not electing someone to do their cabinet secretaries jobs for them, we're electing a leader; you know...an executive.

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    She's going Rove on Obama,

    personal,

    negative,

    personally destructive,

    iden y politics,

    sexual politics ("for bitter, shoulder-pad feminists of her generation, here's your chance to kick men in the balls"),

    race politics ("for white men, Obama's a black , only blacks vote for blacks, not White RealMen"). eg, it has been observed that some of her ads that show Obama show him to be much darker than he really is. You know that's no mistake.

    and Democratic party destructive.

    If she won't get the nomination, she trying to make damn sure Obama won't win POTUS.

    the .

    America the Beautiful
    God shed his grace on thee
    And crown thy good with brotherhood
    From sea to shining sea!

    (and we haven't even started to hear the that McCain and the Repugs will cover America with. The Repug won't let the Dems out-nasty them.)

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    She's going Rove on Obama,

    personal,

    negative,

    personally destructive,

    iden y politics,

    sexual politics ("for bitter, shoulder-pad feminists of her generation, here's your chance to kick men in the balls"),

    race politics ("for white men, Obama's a black , only blacks vote for blacks, not White RealMen"). eg, it has been observed that some of her ads that show Obama show him to be much darker than he really is. You know that's no mistake.

    and Democratic party destructive.

    If she won't get the nomination, she trying to make damn sure Obama won't win POTUS.

    the .

    America the Beautiful
    God shed his grace on thee
    And crown thy good with brotherhood
    From sea to shining sea!

    (and we haven't even started to hear the that McCain and the Repugs will cover America with. The Repug won't let the Dems out-nasty them.)
    Damn you boutons, those are exactly my sentiments.

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    How dare you. She was the first lady for crissakes. She flew into Bosnia and placed her life in danger (along with those of Sinbad and Sheryl Crow who were also on the USO tour plane). She ran for the Senate against popular NY mayor Giuliani (that is until he dropped out of the race after getting cancer). She has 35 years of experience (including a nice run on the board of Walmart while they were busting unions and a posh gig at a corporate law firm).

    So, by your logic should Cheryl Crow and Sinbad also run for president? I would like to see that ticket

    Seriously, how does being the first lady qualify you to be presidnt? She visited those countries, yes, Met alot of leaders (most of who are dead or are no longer in power) she didn't do anything profound on those trips, just photo ops and tours. The only thing she knows about the inner-workings of the white house is where the bathrooms are.

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    ^ I'm telling you Mr. Peabody you gotta go with the sarcasm blue text on these things. Dry wit rarely thrives on message boards.

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    So, by your logic should Cheryl Crow and Sinbad also run for president? I would like to see that ticket
    Damn, I really should use the sarcasm blue.

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    ^ I'm telling you Mr. Peabody you gotta go with the sarcasm blue text on these things. Dry wit rarely thrives on message boards.

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    I think Peabody posted that tongue in cheek....

    Now, word is coming from Canada that it was the Hillary campaign that initiated NAFTA-gate, and it was Hillary, not Obama as has been alleged, who was offering reassurances to the Canadians about renegotiating on NAFTA ....

    Mr. Brodie downplayed those concerns.

    "Quite a few people heard it," said one source in the room.

    "He said someone from (Hillary) Clinton's campaign is telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt. . . That someone called us and told us not to worry."


    Government officials did not deny the conversation took place.

    They said that Mr. Brodie sought to allay concerns about the impact of Mr. Obama and Ms. Clinton's assertion that they would re-negotiate NAFTA if elected. But they did say that Mr. Brodie had no recollection of discussing any specific candidate — either Ms. Clinton or Mr. Obama.
    Globe and Mail

    The Canadian government has started a investigation into the source of the Obama do ent lleak, this could come back and take a major bite out of the Hillary campaign

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    Olbermann on Hillary Raising McCain


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    I reject this "foreign policy experience" notion entirely. How much foreign policy experience did Abraham Lincoln have?

    We're not electing someone to do their cabinet secretaries jobs for them, we're electing a leader; you know...an executive.
    Where did I say anything about foreign policy experience?

    What are you talking about?

    My post mainly concerned political strategy (which we can probably agree Clinton is certainly good at)

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    I see major divisions amongst the democratic party no matter what happens now. At this point there really is no way unless a deal is done with both Barack and Hillary agreeing to compromise in some way. Neither will have enough delegates to win the nomination without the Super Delegates and then the real battle begin but in the end, while a winner may be declared and nominated, the clear loser will be the democratic party.

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