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Well, that was certainly a well informed, coherent, and insightful essay on the challenges facing us.
very interesting read..... hope no one has this posted yet
Whether you are a democrat or a republican or whatever please read the following!
This piece should shed a lot of light on our nation's future.
This is the most cogent and powerful essay on the threat of Islamic
terrorism I have seen. Dr. Vernon Chong is without a doubt the
most articulate and convincing writing I have read regarding the War
in Iraq . If you have any doubts please open your mind to his essay
and give it a fair evaluation. It's also eerily applicable to other
current issues such as Iran 's nuclear program, immigration, NAFTA's
impact on American jobs, trade deficits, etc..
Dr. Chong is,a retired Air Force surgeon and past commander of Wilford
Hall Medical Center in San Antonio .
If you would like to see who this fellow is, go to this Air Force web
site and look him up:
http://www.af.mil/bios/bio.asp?bioID=5000
This WAR is for REAL!
Dr. Vernon Chong, Major General, USAF, Retired
To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our
country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we
know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes
WWII).
The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there
are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even
fewer who realize what losing really means.
First, let's examine a few basics:
1. When did the threat to us start?
2. Many will say September 11, 2001. The answer as far as the United
States is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with
the following attacks on us:
* Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
* Beirut , Lebanon Embassy 1983;
* Beirut , Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
* Lockerbie , Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
* First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
* Dhahran , Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;
* Nairobi , Kenya US Embassy 1998;
* Dares Salaam , Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
* A! den, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
* New York World Trade Center 2001;* Pentagon 2001.
(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581
terrorist attacks worldwide).
2. Why were we attacked?
Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks
happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush
1, Clinton and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or
Democrats as there were no provocations by any of the presidents or
their immediate predecessor, President Ford.
3. Who were the attackers?
In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.
4. What is the Muslim population of the World?
25%.
5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?
Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that
the predominately Christian population of Germany was peaceful, but
under the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also Christian
(?)), that made no difference. You either went along with the
administration or you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million
Christians killed by the Nazis for political reasons (including 7,000
Polish priests).
(see http://www.Nazis.testimony.couk/7-a.htm )
Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis,
as the six million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we
seldom heard of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although
Hitler kept the world focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy about
killing anyone who got in his way of exterminating the Jews or of
taking over the world - German, Christian or any others.
Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US , but
kill all in the way -- their own people or the Spanish, British,
French or anyone else. The point here is that just like the peaceful
Germans were of no protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how
many peaceful Muslims there may be, they are no protection for us from
the terrorist Muslim leaders and what they are fanatically bent on
doing -- by their own pronouncements -- killing all of us 'infidels.'
I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the choice
was shut up or die?
6. So who are we at war with?
There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than
the Muslim terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid
verbalizing this conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win
if you don't clearly recognize and articulate who you are fighting.
So with that background, now to the two major questions:
1. Can we lose this war?
2. What does losing really mean?
If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions:
We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the
major reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom
the answer to the second question - What does losing mean?
It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war
means hanging our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about
our business, like post-Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one
can get.
What losing really means is:
We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks
will not subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they
want us dead, not just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they
would not have produced an increasing series of attacks against us,
over the past 18 years. The plan was, clearly, for terrorists to
attack us until we were neutered and submissive to them.
We would, of course, have no future support from other nations, for
fear of reprisals and for the reason that they would see; we are
impotent and cannot help them.
They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It
will be increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain
hostage. It doesn't matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to
withdraw its troops from Iraq . Spain did it because the Muslim
terrorists bombed their train and told them to withdraw the troops.
Anything else they want Spain to do will be done. Spain is finished.
The next will probably be France . Our one hope on France is that
they might see the light and realize that if we don't win, they are
finished too, in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists without
us. However, it may already be too late for France . France is
already 20% Muslim and fading fast!
Without our support Great Britain will go too. Recently I read that
there are more mosques in England than churches, try Canada.
If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life
will all vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal
with us if they were threatened by the Muslims. If we can't stop the
Muslim terrorists, how could anyone else? The radical Muslims fully
know what is riding on this war, and therefore are completely
committed to winning, at any cost. We better know it too and be
likewise committed to winning at any cost.
Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple.
Until we recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put
100% of our thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to
take that 100% effort to win.
So, how can we lose the war?
Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by 'imploding.' That
is, defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their
purpose, and really digging in and lending full support to the war
effort. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we
continue to be divided, there is no way that we can win!
Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the
life and death seriousness of this situation.
President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation.
Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men
between 17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow
profiling. Does that sound like we are taking this thing seriously?
This is war! For the duration, we are going to have to give up some
of the civil rights we have become accustomed. We had better be
prepared to lose some of our civil rights temporarily or we will most
certainly lose all of them permanently.
And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of
civil rights during WWII, and immediately restored them after the
victory and in fact
added many more since then.
Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?
No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our
Political Correctness, and all of our civil rights during this
conflict and have a clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those words
apply to war. Get them out of your head.
Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the
Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see
us lose.
I think some actually do, I hasten to add that this isn't because they
are disloyal. It is because they just don't recognize what losing
means. Nevertheless, that conduct gives the impression to the enemy
that we are divided and weakening. It concerns our friends, and it
does great damage to our cause.
Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media
regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies
best what I am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving the
treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our
military police. These are the type prisoners who just a few months
ago were throwing their own people off buildings, cutting off their
hands, cutting out their tongues and otherwise murdering their own
people just for disagreeing with Saddam Hussein!
And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed
400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the
same type of enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and
dragging their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq . And
still more recently, the same type of enemy that was and is providing
videos to all news sources internationally, of the beheading of
American prisoners they held.
Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several
days have thought and talked about nothing else but the 'humiliating'
of some Muslim prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their
charred corpses through the streets, not beheading them, but
'humiliating' them.
Can they be for real?
The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the
Secretary of Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack of
comprehension and understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we
are fighting, the life and death struggle we are in and the disastrous
results of losing this war, nothing can.
To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this
prisoner issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome
burned -- totally oblivious to what is going on in the real world.
Neither we, nor any other country, can survive this internal strife.
Again I say, this does not mean that some of our politicians or media
people are disloyal. It simply means that they are absolutely
oblivious to the magnitude of the situation we are in and into which
the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us, for many years.
These people are a serious and dangerous liability to the war effort.
We must take note of who they are and get them out of office.
Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels!
That translates into ALL non-Muslims -- not just in the United States
, but throughout the world. We are the last bastion of defense.
We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant.' That
charge is valid. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are so
good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all
those who attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back, we
can defeat anything bad in the world! We can't!
If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive,
and no other free country in the world will survive if we are
defeated.
And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow
freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of
the press, equal rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal status
or any status for women, or that have been productive in one single
way that contributes to the good of the world.
This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war
or we will be equated in the history books to the self- inflicted fall
of the Roman Empire. If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow
history books to be written or read.
If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the
Muslims take over France in the next 5 years or less. They will
continue to increase the Muslim population of France and continue to
encroach little by little, on the established French traditions.
The French will be fighting among themselves, over what should or
should not be done, which will continue to weaken them and keep them
from any united resolve. Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?
Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some
external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away,
politically correct piece by politically correct piece.
And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown,
worldwide that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even
to themselves, once they are in power.
Muslims have universally shown that when they have taken over, they
then start brutally killing each other over whom will be the few who
control the masses.
They don't stop at killing you, add family, friends, pets…
What is happening in Iraq is a good example. Will we ever stop
hearing from the politically correct, about the 'peaceful Muslims'?
I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are
united, there is no way that we can lose. I hope now, after the
election, the factions in our country will begin to focus on the
critical situation we are in, and will unite to save our country. It
is your future we are talking about! Do whatever you can to preserve
it. I reiterate. A national election is months away.
After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves,
but our children, our grandchildren, our country and the world.
Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal and that
includes the Politicians and media of our country and the free world!
Well, that was certainly a well informed, coherent, and insightful essay on the challenges facing us.
total, conventional pro-bogus-war propaganda and anti-Muslim bull .
Chong needs quit cherry-picking/truncating history/and go back before 1979 in Iran, to 1953 in Iran when the CIA overthrew Iranian democracy and installed the dictator Shah of Iran in order to assure US/UK access to de-nationalized Iranian oil. The CIA's Shah was so bad that he was violently overthrown by a theocratic revolution in 1979.
And that's all I've got to say about Chong's pile of .
first...
then...No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our
Political Correctness, and all of our civil rights during this
conflict and have a clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those words
apply to war. Get them out of your head.
Yes, we must give up our civil liberties in order to preserve our freedom.Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some
external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away,
politically correct piece by politically correct piece.
Wow! What kind of alarmist BS is this? I see you don't even know what this worldwide struggle is all about. You have been programmed to fear ghosts, and anything different from what you think you know.
Please stop the propaganda and limited cognitivism.
You're right. It is much better when you use the sarcasm blue.
Allah is a goat er..
The above-quoted essay about the war on terrorism is yet one more example of misattribution through e-mail forwarding. Although USAF Major General (Dr.) Vernon Chong is indeed a real person, he told us that the essay was not written by him; it was something he came across and forwarded to an acquaintance via thereby attaching his name to it and inadvertently causing other recipients to erroneously assume he was its author.
This essay was actually written by an attorney and began circulating back in mid-2004 under the le "THE WORLD SITUATION; A LETTER TO MY SONS," with the following opening:
This was written by a retired attorney, to his sons, May 19, 2004.
Dear Tom, Kevin, Kirby and Ted,
As your father, I believe I owe it to you to share some thoughts on the present world situation. We have over the years discussed a lot of important things, like going to college, jobs and so forth. But this really takes precedence over any of those discussions. I hope this might give you a longer term perspective that fewer and fewer of my generation are left to speak to. To be sure you understand that this is not politically flavored, I will tell you that since Franklin D. Roosevelt, who led us through pre and WWII (1933 - 1945) up to and including our present President, I have without exception, supported our presidents on all matters of international conflict. This would include just naming a few in addition to President Roosevelt - WWII: President Truman - Korean War 1950; President Kennedy Bay of Pigs (1961); President Kennedy - Vietnam (1961); eight presidents (5 Republican & 4 Democrat) during the cold war (1945 - 1991); President Clinton's strikes on Bosnia (1995) and on Iraq (1998). So be sure you read this as completely non-political or otherwise you will miss the point.
Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII). The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize what losing really means. First, let's examine a few basics:
Somewhere along the chain of multiple forwardings, someone rewrote the first few paragraphs and mistakenly attributed the entire piece to General Chong.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/chong.asp
People are so damn gullible... this is one of those urban-legend chain e-mails, written in 2004.
It certainly nailed its prediction about Frankistan (former France), didn't it? Now they have noted radical Islamist Nicholas Al-Sarkozy as their President, and they've already put up minarets around the Masjid Am-Maryam (former Notre Dame). Tourists flock to hear the muezzin call from the Ma‘arakat Balâṭ ash-Shuhadâ’ Tower (former Eiffel Tower).
I want to make sure I do my part. I went ahead and killed three members of a Pakistani family this evening. Tell me, bendmz, how many Muslims total do I need to slay in order to be sure I'm doing my part?
What kind of dad writes crap like that to his sons?....I mean, it's one thing to say it while smoking Cuban cigars and sipping Russian brandy over the Chinese fireplace, but...
They already hold Spain hostage.....bet that news to Spain....
Every year Spain pays its tribute to the caliph. Muslims have restored the Mezquita to its place as a Islamic house of prayer. Catholics annually assemble to pay the jizya. Didn't you know this?
Well I'm glad we caught 'all the right guys'And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed
400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the
same type of enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and
dragging their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq . And
still more recently, the same type of enemy that was and is providing
videos to all news sources internationally, of the beheading of
American prisoners they held.
Hmmm...this is a hundred year war according to the pro-war elite, you know, dubya, McCain, Hillary...but don't worry, your rights will be restored as soon as we say when the war is over....President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation.
Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men
between 17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow
profiling. Does that sound like we are taking this thing seriously?
This is war! For the duration, we are going to have to give up some
of the civil rights we have become accustomed. We had better be
prepared to lose some of our civil rights temporarily or we will most
certainly lose all of them permanently.
And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of
civil rights during WWII, and immediately restored them after the
victory and in fact
added many more since then.
stop it!!
you've scared the thread starter away.
bullies.
Kinda like those not-funny monologues regarding terrorism and immigration supposedly written by George Carlin and Robin Williams.
let me tell you clowns why I come to this forum. I am mostly a reader but there are times that I will post an article to obtain serveral points of views. You people seem so informed, more so than me and I take great care in paying attention to some more than others.
My son who is in Afganistan at the moment sent me this article so I felt I could throw it out here for your amussment. You boys fail to let me down.
but on with your bull .......
We failed to let you down?
Most of us are pretty much ok with the basic idea of our military action in Afghanistan, though the devil has very much been in the details.
The misattributed and at least partially forged letter from the lawyer was neither "cogent and powerful" nor was it "without a doubt the most articulate and convincing writing I have read regarding the War in Iraq." It was, in fact, awful.
Thanks for the info Mr. Dumper, by far hte most useful. My son is on his second tour and I need to help keep him objective......
thanks for your time
Thanks for the info Mr. Dumper, by far the most useful. My son is on his second tour and I need to help keep him objective......
thanks for your time
Soldiers need to do their jobs and stay alive. I hate the idea that their lives have been in the hands of such inept leaders for such a long time. Our success in Afghanistan and Iraq depend on people like your son, but most of the failures in those operations have in no way been theirs.
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