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omg hillary attends bible study with republican wives she's a secret fundamentalist and a fascist!
I guess that speech on Tuesday must not have stopped the bleeding in Obama's poll numbers.
Hillary's Nasty Pastorate
Huffington PostThere's a reason why Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama's former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she's a lot more vulnerable than Obama.
You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that "through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the "Fellowship," aka The Family. But it won't be a secret much longer. Jeff Sharlet's shocking exposé, The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be published in May.
Sean Hannity has called Obama's church a "cult," but that term applies far more aptly to Clinton's "Family," which is organized into "cells" -- their term -- and operates sex-segregated group homes for young people in northern Virginia. In 2002, writer Jeff Sharlet joined the Family's home for young men, foreswearing sex, drugs, and alcohol, and participating in endless discussions of Jesus and power. He wasn't undercover; he used his own name and admitted to being a writer. But he wasn't completely out of danger either. When he went outdoors one night to make a cell phone call, he was followed. He still gets calls from Family associates asking him to meet them in diners -- alone.
The Family's most visible activity is its blandly innocuous National Prayer Breakfast, held every February in Washington. But almost all its real work goes on behind the scenes -- knitting together international networks of rightwing leaders, most of them ostensibly Christian. In the 1940s, The Family reached out to former and not-so-former Nazis, and its fascination with that exemplary leader, Adolph Hitler, has continued, along with ties to a whole bestiary of murderous thugs. As Sharlet reported in Harper's in 2003:
At the heart of the Family's American branch is a collection of powerful rightwing politicos, who include, or have included, Sam Brownback, Ed Meese, John Ashcroft, James Inhofe, and Rick Santorum. They get to use the Family's spacious estate on the Potomac, the Cedars, which is maintained by young men in Family group homes and where meals are served by the Family's young women's group. And, at the Family's frequent prayer gatherings, they get powerful jolts of spiritual refreshment, tailored to the already-powerful.During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between the U.S. government and some of the most anti-Communist (and dictatorial) elements within Africa's postcolonial leadership. The Brazilian dictator General Costa e Silva, with Family support, was overseeing regular fellowship groups for Latin American leaders, while, in Indonesia, General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred thousand "Communists" killed marks him as one of the century's most murderous dictators) was presiding over a group of fifty Indonesian legislators. During the Reagan Administration the Family helped build friendships between the U.S. government and men such as Salvadoran general Carlos Eugenios Vides Casanova, convicted by a Florida jury of the torture of thousands, and Honduran general Gustavo Alvarez Martinez, himself an evangelical minister, who was linked to both the CIA and death squads before his own demise.
Clinton fell in with the Family in 1993, when she joined a Bible study group composed of wives of conservative leaders like Jack Kemp and James Baker. When she ascended to the senate, she was promoted to what Sharlet calls the Family's "most elite cell," the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast, which included, until his downfall, Virginia's notoriously racist Senator George Allen. This has not been a casual connection for Clinton. She has written of Doug Coe, the Family's publicity-averse leader, that he is "a unique presence in Washington: a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship with God."
Furthermore, the Family takes credit for some of Clinton's rightward legislative tendencies, including her support for a law guaranteeing "religious freedom" in the workplace, such as for pharmacists who refuse to fill birth control prescriptions and police officers who refuse to guard abortion clinics.
What drew Clinton into the sinister heart of the international right? Maybe it was just a phase in her tormented search for iden y, marked by ever-changing hairstyles and names: Hillary Rodham, Mrs. Bill Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and now Hillary Clinton. She reached out to many potential spiritual mentors during her White House days, including new age guru Marianne Williamson and the liberal Rabbi Michael Lerner. But it was the Family association that stuck.
Sharlet generously attributes Clinton's involvement to the underappreciated depth of her religiosity, but he himself struggles to define the Family's theological underpinnings. The Family avoids the word Christian but worship Jesus, though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the "meek." They believe that, in mass societies, it's only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God's "dominion" on earth. Insofar as the Family has a consistent philosophy, it's all about power -- cultivating it, building it, and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or "cells." "We work with power where we can," Doug Coe has said, and "build new power where we can't."
Obama has given a beautiful speech on race and his affiliation with the Trinity Unity Church of Christ. Now it's up to Clinton to explain -- or, better yet, renounce -- her longstanding connection with the fascist-leaning Family.
omg hillary attends bible study with republican wives she's a secret fundamentalist and a fascist!
I guess that speech on Tuesday must not have stopped the bleeding in Obama's poll numbers.
Good, so she'll win the Christian South because they hate John McCain.
Wow, this is one of the biggest reaches I've ever seen.
It reads like satire, but it's not. Who are they trying to shock, exactly, with these revelations of Washington prayer breakfasts?
dan hasn't posted for a couple of hours. He's desperately searching for better talking points.
I just read it AGAIN because I thought perhaps I missed something.
I'm no big fan of Hillary, but that's gotta be the biggest load of paranoid, conspiracy theory, alarmist crap I've read in a long time. In fact, it sounds like satire.
The Family avoids the word Christian but worship Jesus, though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the "meek." They believe that, in mass societies, it's only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God's "dominion" on earth. Insofar as the Family has a consistent philosophy, it's all about power -- cultivating it, building it, and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or "cells."
Damn. For a minute I thought it said "Hillary's prostate".
You might be right there! It would be a big mistake for southern evangelicals to stay home on Election Day, however, for McCain, for all his waywardness from conservative principles (limited government, low taxes, respect for traditional values, hawkish foreign policy), is still far more friendly to them than is Hillary (mostly unfriendly) and Obama (unfriendly).
yeah..............actually I'm on spring break and I poke my head in here every once in awhile to set the forum straight!
...as far as the Fellowship goes, I have a funny feeling we'll be hearing much more about this organization soon...
I have a funny feeling that it will be used to spin Obama's Rev Wright.
Although, there really is nothing about all this.
It's quite pathetic.
I have a funny feeling the "M$M" is going to disappoint those who think this is a story. But we'll see, I guess.
I Have A Funny Feeling Hillary Is The Anti-christ.
Although the way bama is able to sway the masses...
I love the fact that 20% of either candidates' supporters have promised to bail to McCain if their Democrat isn't the nominee. McCain'll take the idiots.
For those that went to public school, that's a 10% shift from the left to McCain in the general election.
Hey! I went to public school, and I understood. Of course, it took years to be de-programmed from the political correctness and anti-Americanism that I learned, but still ... I learned math pretty well.
The point of the Mother Jones article seems like a stretch, though -- more informed by a desire for a completely non-religious public square than anything.
I took pictures of that midget .
er really is a hobbit.
Dan sinking to new lows (again)
yeah..............actually I'm on spring break and I poke my head in here every once in awhile to set the forum straight!
...as far as the Fellowship goes, I have a funny feeling we'll be hearing much more about this organization soon...
Get back in school. Your boring when on spring break. Well, actually you boring when in school and mostly
inaccurate in your postings.
Audio Tapes Raise Questions On Hillary Clinton's Right-Wing Cult Associations
By Bruce Wilson Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 06:43:05 PM EST print story
The audio clips you can hear in this video are taken from sermons given by the man Senator Hillary Clinton has described as a "spiritual mentor": Doug Coe is the head of a secretive Washington religious organization, which hosts the yearly National Prayer Breakfast : The Family. The Family is not a conspiracy. It is a right-wing fundamentalist, elitist power cult and a global influence peddling ring with links to some of the most savage, bloodthirsty regimes of the 20th Century. The audio clips you can hear in the following video production are taken from sermons given by the man Hillary Clinton has described as a "spiritual mentor", Doug Coe. There is no evidence to prove Clinton is aware of these statements by Coe, but the agenda of The Family is far from secret.
That's it?
Douglas Coe
The Stealth Persuader: Many people think Congress is the host of the gala annual National Prayer Breakfast, which takes place this week. It is not. The breakfast is organized by 33 members of Congress who belong to a well-connected but secretive Christian group called the Fellowship Foundation, which is run by Douglas Coe. Coe, 76, has been called the "stealth Billy Graham." He specializes in the spiritual struggles of the powerful.
Several members of Congress live in rooms rented in a town house owned by a foundation affiliated with the group. Coe and his associates sometimes travel (on their own dime) with congressional members abroad and—according to investigations by the Los Angeles Times and Harper's—have played backstage roles in such diplomatic coups as the 1976 Camp David accords. Yet Coe also befriends dictators. "He would still hold out hope that these people could be redeemed and try to work through them to help the people over whom they have authority," says Richard Carver, president of the Fellowship's board of directors. Some skeptical Evangelicals criticize Coe's indiscriminate alliances and his downplaying of Jesus' divinity in favor of his earthly teachings—which allows Coe to pray with Muslim and Buddhist leaders. But few turn down an opportunity to confer with him.
Five-part series on Netflix starting Aug. 9th.
Have any of y'all read the book? Brand new to me...
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