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smeagol if you have to ask me, you haven't been reading my
"stuff".....LOL
Just checking who's who in the forum.
I'll go with capitalism with well set up controls from the government, in order to stop people whop take advantage of the system.
smeagol if you have to ask me, you haven't been reading my
"stuff".....LOL
A guy who censors me because I'm a foreigner.
Who's the fascist again?
So we know you believe 9/11 was an inside job, now tell us (given that you are American and your opinion does count), socialism or capitalism?
I know where you stand. In favor of capitalism and against anything that smells dimm-o-crap.
I'm more interested in the forum liberals.
I'll take capitalism and freedom, thank you, in politics. And socialism in things that are really important, like baseball.
That's a tough question to answer, since there are many flavors of Socialism and Capitalism, each with different strength's or weaknesses.
Personally, I'd prefer a mixture of the two. The government needs to take over certain industries, and stay the out of the rest.
Which ones?
I'm for a pro-socialist government.
The problem is, that form of capitalism has never and will never exist, because capitalism thrives on greed.
Well technically socialism and the free market aren't mutually exclusive, take a look at European countries for examples.
So to answer your question, I'm a hard core socialist in the Scandinavian mold
You are of course kidding, right? I know of nothing government runs that is efficient except the Armed forces
and sometimes I am not so sure of them. Six hundred
dollar toilet seats. Of course they have to operate
under rules laid down by Congress, which explains a
lot. Like Ethanol. The fuel of ignorance.
I prefer utopian socialism.
This is a bad question. Anyone who answers should give examples of countries (perhaps during particular time periods) which exemplify your choice. It's all well and good to think of how good utopia would be (whether it's the capitalist or socialist version), but unfortunately we don't live in utopia.
For myself, I think the US mixed system is pretty good. It would be even better if we would somehow eliminate or reduce the corrupting effect of money on politics. There are many greedy people who get politicians to game the system in their favor.
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The US is a mix between capitalism and socialism???
Not answering your comment in particular, but plenty of people here confuse regulated capitalism (like the EU) with Socialism.
True.
But the facts speak for themselves.
For example, my native Algeria opted for Socialism after 1962 (the year we kicked France out), and it wasn't a good idea.(especially when considering our great natural resources) .
We've decided to go with a capitalist system, but this takes time, just because of the bad previous choice.
Basically, the most powerful nations are Capitalist, and the ones with problems have opted for Socialism.
I would opt for Capitalism
Claiming my opinion does not count siumply because I'm not American is a form of censorship.
As much as you are a believer 9/11 was an inside jobyou are the fascist
That made me LOL too . . .
Socialism sucks because anyone that's good at running businesses is going to want to do that for themselves. And in socialism, the government is the business. It is the ultimate form of capitalism, that creates the ultimate class separation between, the government, and the people.
In socialism, you either run those business people off, or else you make them part of the government, and then you have turned your government into one of those greedy capitalist en ies with one of those greeedy Execs in charge. Because the same people that run those businesses? Will also be in the government. With no political hoops to be jumped.
In short...don't trust governments, don't give them control over your industries. The less they are in charge of, the better.
Governments are inherently incompetent and untrustworthy, I don't care what system you use, the more things they are in control of, the most things they will screw up either intentionally or otherwise. And the bigger the population, the more dysfunctional they become.
It's ironic that so many people that are completely untrusting of our government favor socialism..they actually favor making them more powerful, and even more in control of our lives.
If there is one government I don't trust is Argentina's.
What a bunch of ing corrupt pieces of !
Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Unemployment Insurance, United States Housing Authority (public housing), public education, public health clinics, public hospitals, public libraries, public roads, Rural Utilities Service. I can find some more socialism in the US for you if you like. I guess Smeagol and Whott want to get rid of all of these.
Most of those programs are not the trademark of socialism. They exist in every developed economy. But this one made me laugh:
Public libraries?
In any case, why don'y you try:
Government owning the media, the utilities, transportation, the telephone companies, energy companies; governemnt changing tax regimes to force private individuals to invest on this or that industry; pension systems completely state-owned, etc, etc, etc
I seem to agree with myselfTrue.
But the facts speak for themselves.
For example, my native Algeria opted for Socialism after 1962 (the year we kicked France out), and it wasn't a good idea.(especially when considering our great natural resources) .
We've decided to go with a capitalist system, but this takes time, just because of the bad previous choice.
Basically, the most powerful nations are Capitalist, and the ones with problems have opted for Socialism.
I would opt for Capitalism
I guess for smeagol, "pure capitalism" is the government pays for a bunch of things that smeagol thinks the government should pay for.
You guessed wrong.
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