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    So much for long-held wing-nut belief that all our tax money is going to en lements.....

    Pentagon's weapon spending surges to $1.6 trillion in 2007

    WASHINGTON, April 1 (Xinhua) -- The U.S. Defense Department's spending on weapon systems has surged to 1.6 trillion dollars in 2007, doubling from 790 billion dollars in 2000, said a congressional report released on Tuesday.

    According to the report by the Government Accountability Office(GAO), the acquisition costs were 26 percent higher than the original estimates in 2007, and the spending on research and development were 40 percent over the budget.

    Despite the higher-than-budget cost, about 72 programs were still falling behind schedule by averagely 21 months, including fighter jets, combat ships and satellites, the sixth annual report on the Pentagon's weapon programs.

    However, the Defense Department, whose personnel and budgets have been strained by the Iraq war and Afghanistan war, still plans to invest about 900 million dollars over the next five years in weapon systems' development and procurement, it added.

    Gene Dodaro, the GAO's acting comptroller general, accused the defense budgets "spent inefficiently in developing and procuring weapon systems" of compromising "many other internal and external budget priorities."

    "These inefficiencies also often result in the delivery of less capability than initially planned, either in the form of fewer quan ies or delayed delivery to the warfighter," he said.


    In response, the Pentagon said in a statement that the department would make an informed comment after reading the report.
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    Imagine the good we could do if we spent more of that money at home instead of on weapons to defeat phantom enemies....

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    Must costs the DOD a lot of money to spy on Americans...

    ACLU obtains do ents after suit over National Security Letters

    The military is using the FBI to skirt legal restrictions on domestic surveillance to obtain private records of Americans' Internet service providers, financial ins utions and telephone companies, according to Pentagon do ents.

    The American Civil Liberties Union expressed outrage at the new revelations, based its conclusion on a review of more than 1,000 do ents turned over by the Defense Department after it sued the agency last year for do ents related to national security letters, or NSLs, investigative tools used to compel businesses to turn over customer information without a judge's order or grand jury subpoena.

    "Newly unredacted do ents released today reveal that the Department of Defense is using the FBI to cir vent legal limits on its own NSL power," said the ACLU, whose lawsuit was filed in Manhattan federal court.
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    Pentagon's weapon spending surges to $1.6 trillion in 2007
    Come on Dan. Look at the budget figures. That article is absolutely wrong.

    Are the Chinese paying you to repeat the propaganda they tell their people?

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    said a congressional report released on Tuesday.
    So you know better than a congressional report?

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    So you know better than a congressional report?
    Come on Dan, I know you aren't that dumb.

    Did they cite the figures in context? Did they link the report? Can you find it?

    I simply don't believe the author of the article.

    Find the numbers for me from the government site if you insist on believing the bull the Chinese feed their people. They are likely justifying their military buildup over better national programs. Their people don't have the ability to see the truth as the internet for them is censored.

    All I'm asking for is that if you continue to believe such nonsense, is to provide some reliable evidence. Not a piece that to me is obvious Chinese propaganda.

    Hey Dan... Wanna buy a bridge for cheap?

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    Wanna buy a bridge for cheap?
    Depends, is it on the moon?

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    Total U.S. military expenditures in 2007 were $626.1 billion.

    So, dan, are you a spy for the Chinese, a stooge, or just a useful idiot?

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    Total U.S. military expenditures in 2007 were $626.1 billion.

    So, dan, are you a spy for the Chinese, a stooge, or just a useful idiot?


    Congress must be a Chinese stooge too.

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    Congress must be a Chinese stooge too.

    Where's the link to the GAO report? Where's the link to the AP story?

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    The way I figure it, is we just had the money spent on en lements
    for weapons programs, we could have a really, really great military.

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    It's coming...we are at least two day ahead of the M$M in this forum..


    Lives In the Balance...


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    So that is not an annual figure.

    Duh.

    Less sensational, I know.

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    So out of a budget of $3 tril or so, $600 bil is going to defense. Any guess on what the largest item in the budget might be....?

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    no, 1.6 trillion is going to defense....

    "The nature of major weapon systems development is that you have to expect that the initial estimates, and typically the initial contracts, are overly optimistic and unrealistic," he said. "Unfortunately the purchaser -- the government -- typically lacks the discipline to freeze the configuration such that the contractor has any reasonable chance of developing what it promised on time and for the price promised."

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    ROFL. You were wrong, Mofo. Again.

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    Really, How so?

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    Uh, take a look at the actual GAO report, for starters. It's referring to the total cost of those programs, not the total annual cost.

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    And it's the total "planned" cost of those programs. Not the actual spent in that budget year.

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    So it's OK to overestimate the annualized costs of SS, with the most dire predictions available 15-45 years out, but it's not OK to overestimate the annualized costs of weapons just one year out - check.

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    So it's OK to overestimate the annualized costs of SS, with the most dire predictions available 15-45 years out, but it's not OK to overestimate the annualized costs of weapons just one year out - check.
    Nah, it's stupid to believe that the Defense budget is $1.7 tril per year.

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    Yeah, because we all know there will be even new weapons procurements for 08..


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    So there's going to be $1.1 trillion in new spending for '08?

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