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    I don't know if it is really Spurs related but I have just learned that Tp will face rasho next summer. Tp says that Beno is not going to compete because he would like to rest. It is a pity because I would really had enjoyed to see our two PG face to face

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    I don't know if it is really Spurs related but I have just learned that Tp will face rasho next summer. Tp says that Beno is not going to compete because he would like to rest. It is a pity because I would really had enjoyed to see our two PG face to face
    Beno will play!!

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    And we'll win as well

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    Beno told me that he wasn't going to play because he had to go to a rookie/sop re orientation in New York during the same time period because he had missed it last year. Beno told me this before the Spurs season started. Maybe something has changed since then.

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    I don't think so, His last comments on the subject were that he won't play, and I haven't heard any news of the contrary.

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    if the Spurs dont win the NBA championship this year then Tony P, Beno U and Rasho need to devote their summers to improving for their employers not playing in a meaningless tourney.

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    1. They're going to win the NBA championship.

    2. Why is it meaningless?

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    It's meaningful to the players; otherwise they wouldn't be playing.

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    It's meaningless when the players are under contract to the Spurs and the tourney only puts the Spurs next season at risk. I dont see any reason the Spurs should allow their investments to go off and risk injury. Even if their is insurance, I'm pretty sure Holt would rather have the players than the money.

    The tourney is not meaningless to players trying to get better so that they can try to make it to the NBA.
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    Well, let's just wait untill the end of the season, how will Beno feel, will he be healthy, with enough energy etc....
    'Cos i would hate to see the headlines in the newspaper like "Udrih doesn't care for his own country" or something like that... It has happened before and it will happen again to maybe Beno or maybe someone else... really not fair...

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    Well, let's just wait untill the end of the season, how will Beno feel, will he be healthy, with enough energy etc....
    'Cos i would hate to see the headlines in the newspaper like "Udrih doesn't care for his own country" or something like that... It has happened before and it will happen again to maybe Beno or maybe someone else... really not fair...
    If the folks back home are small minded enough to think that way then it's too bad. They should be happy that Beno is successful in the best league. No one should be guilted into playing for so called "national pride". Everyone that works hard deserves a vacation.

    I may be selfish but like Holt, I make an investment in the Spurs every year. Since the players are employees to the Spurs their first loyality should be to the person signing the checks. If they want to play for the national team they should sign contracts with the national team. You cant have your cake and eat it too. There is just too much at stake.

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    It's meaningless when the players are under contract to the Spurs and the tourney only puts the Spurs next season at risk. I dont see any reason the Spurs should allow their investments to go off and risk injury.
    So you were against Duncan going to the Olympics as well?

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    So you were against Duncan going to the Olympics as well?
    I was. But since I have no control, I can do nothing, but pray that he remained healthy. Since he decided to play I supported him 110%, the same as all the USA basketball olympians. While it's nice to have a Spur in the Olympics, I care more about the Spurs than I do the Olympics.

    While I dont support the choice to play in Olympic and qualifying tourney's, I will always support Spur players in those tourney's.

    I don't understand why people (mainly sheep - red states folks) cannot comprehend the idea of not supporting a decision but supporting the person who has to live up to the obligation. I don't support Bushes decision to go to war, but I support the troops 110%. I don't care what anyone says that idea is reasonable for most intellegent people.
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    Allez France !

    Frenchise player, est-ce que les autres Frenchies dans le NBA, comme Bobo, Moïso, ou Piëtrus va jouer aussi ? Ou Ronny Turiaf de Gonzaga ? J'espère qu'ils vont améliorer le statut de basket français en 2005 !

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    Let me just describe one example... A few years ago while Beno was still playing for the Olimpija from Ljubljana, he had to have an operation (i forgot how it's called in english-that rutine operation where they cut those "things" out of your throat) and becaouse it was during the season, the only chance was to do it during EC qualifications... He asked the coach if it's ok, and he gave him permission 'cos there were only 2 games against England and Chech republic (it was supposed to an easy win), and he even sent him msg it was ok. When Slovenia accedantly lost one of those games (if not even both, i can't remember), he was on the TV saying how "some" of the players obviously don't have respect for the national team, and how they don't wanna play for it-clearly refering to the Beno, since he was one of the few that were missing. He did to somehow "clear" his name and not accept the responsability for the loss(es).
    Now, of course, the journalists didn't know the whole story, and just added "1 and 1" together, and the headlines were up...
    Those are the kind of things i hate, and don't wanna see about Beno or any other player. Nobody deserves that!
    And, for those who still don't get it (we've got a lot of those here), let me just point out, that for example Beno (and it's allmost the same with majority of the players) was playing in EVERY YOUTH,JUNIOR,... national team since he was....really young! Ergo, he didn't have any summer holidays for a long, long time! But i think he deserved it... just like other players did... But of course, nobody looks at it this way so they all need to play no matter what... year after year...

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    Let me just describe one example... A few years ago while Beno was still playing for the Olimpija from Ljubljana, he had to have an operation (i forgot how it's called in english-that rutine operation where they cut those "things" out of your throat) and becaouse it was during the season, the only chance was to do it during EC qualifications... He asked the coach if it's ok, and he gave him permission 'cos there were only 2 games against England and Chech republic (it was supposed to an easy win), and he even sent him msg it was ok. When Slovenia accedantly lost one of those games (if not even both, i can't remember), he was on the TV saying how "some" of the players obviously don't have respect for the national team, and how they don't wanna play for it-clearly refering to the Beno, since he was one of the few that were missing. He did to somehow "clear" his name and not accept the responsability for the loss(es).
    Now, of course, the journalists didn't know the whole story, and just added "1 and 1" together, and the headlines were up...
    Those are the kind of things i hate, and don't wanna see about Beno or any other player. Nobody deserves that!
    And, for those who still don't get it (we've got a lot of those here), let me just point out, that for example Beno (and it's allmost the same with majority of the players) was playing in EVERY YOUTH,JUNIOR,... national team since he was....really young! Ergo, he didn't have any summer holidays for a long, long time! But i think he deserved it... just like other players did... But of course, nobody looks at it this way so they all need to play no matter what... year after year...
    The only way I can answer this situation is that I support Beno's decision whatever it may be. I only hope that he makes it based on his obligations to himself first. The only person Beno should try to please is himself. After all when the chips are down its family and close friends that he can really count on. He should not give in to pressure of the press.

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    we need motivated, healthy, full of energy players in our national team. and i think that playing some "easy" games in europe would be good for rasho's selfconfidence. so that's good for spurs as well

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    we need motivated, healthy, full of energy players in our national team. and i think that playing some "easy" games in europe would be good for rasho's selfconfidence. so that's good for spurs as well
    You better be careful, some around here (sequspur) would wish that Rasho got hurt so that Spurs would be able to replace him with someone else.

    Kori, now that I think about it how much time did Rasho play this past summer for his national team?

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    This ERO 2005 is vey important, and i bet that Rasho will play becouse EURO 2005 is is Serbia And Montenegro. Also Brezec, Nachbar, Udrih and Vujačič. We have 5 NBA players and Slovenia have only 2.000.000 population.

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    International compe ion should always trump domestic compe ion. Going to Euro 2005 is very important for the players, and always should be. That's the risk teams take by signing international players. Get over it.

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    I don't understand why some Spur's fan see international tournament as a bad thing.
    We have the best exemple of a player who became a superstar because of the olympic tournament. To my mind it is not a "bad investiment", by the way I don't really like this financial language about something that is just a game. Players should be proud to play for their country and it can only benefit them and their NBA team (Manu's jersey sells must have trully improved since the Olympics).

    I hope France will win as always against Slovenia. We already met in 2003 and we had won and eliminate them and I just don't see why it would be different with a Tony Parker who has improved a lot since Lulea and some other NBA players like Pietrus and Diaw (I don't know if Turiaf will play because he will have first to go to the draft).
    Apolagize to the slovenian spurs fans but I really think you have no chance against a full-power french team.

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    International compe ion should always trump domestic compe ion. Going to Euro 2005 is very important for the players, and always should be. That's the risk teams take by signing international players. Get over it.
    That's a nice sports ideal. I wonder if you would have the same at ude if you were signing the players checks. You could also say that when international players sign NBA contracts they are agreeing to provide services to work in America. I wonder how long it will be until we start seeing clauses in contracts of big name players like Dirk and Nash preventing them from playing in all but the Olympics.
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    Damn, you haven't used the word focus in this thread yet.

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    Damn, you haven't used the word focus in this thread yet.
    That's pretty funny. It's getting late, I have to get up at 4am for a 6:45am flight to Newark, I guess I'm just losing mine.

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    Well for some players its very important to play for their own country, they worked their whole life to be in national team and in some coutries people respect and suport them. I can understand why most "superstars" in USA doesn't care about playing for national team, to much money and no pride. Half of them would beat eachother up, other half would be laughing :/ Well if you live in country that has 2mio people and you actualy got a team that could beat most other teams, that means something to you.
    PS: and the players are actualy all friends, imagine that huh

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