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Also if this does not tell everyone that Nash is the MVP of the league, they need to watch another sport.
Jan. 15, 2005, 11:21PM
Wizards get hot while Suns freeze
Washington wins seventh straight; Dixon scores 26
Associated Press
Juan Dixon jumped, clenched his fists and let out a yell amid the roar of the fans as he ran downcourt. It was a fitting way to celebrate a spectacular layup during Washington's 16-0 fourth-quarter run against the NBA's top team.
Dixon scored 13 of his 26 points — including a driving change-hands-in-midair layup in traffic — in the final period, helping the Wizards to their seventh straight win, a 108-103 victory that sent the Phoenix Suns to their first three-game losing streak of the season.
"Emotion, man. Getting an opportunity," said the former University of Maryland star, explaining his series of emotional releases that including a pose to admire a 3-pointer. "There's times when you're on the bench the whole game, you urge your teammates on, but you're not really a part of it because you're not out there contributing.
"Me, getting an opportunity to play and be a part of it, it's a lot of fun. I'm enjoying it right now."
The Wizards, off to their best start since 1978-79, made up a 10-point second-half deficit and won for the eighth time this season when trailing at the start of the fourth quarter. They usually make it thrilling — they won on a buzzer-beater by Larry Hughes at Milwaukee the night before — but they're winning.
If the Spurs do not improve quicky, they will be Washington's next victim.
Also if this does not tell everyone that Nash is the MVP of the league, they need to watch another sport.
Even the folks on TNT said it: you cannot be the MVP when you play only offense. They said that if Parker had been unreined, he could have gone for 40/20 against Phoenix/Nash.
So, if you go to a last place team, and turn the same team into the best team in the league, you are not the MVP???????
The guys at TNT are even dumber than I thought.
And they lose every game that Nash missed because of injury.
Hmmm, what is the reason why Phoenix has the best record in the NBA???
I wonder......
I think the Spurs should take a dive on th Wiz game, also.
The Spurs losing more games @SBC to inferior teams would help redress the imbalance of the 8 give-away losses on the road to inferior teams. And, WTF, it would be "only one loss". Spurs have lost not a single game, zero, to inferior teams at @SBC. This is a crime that must be corrected.
The Spurs will win in OT.
Two things stand out in that game, 1. A nashless Suns team scored over a 100 pts. and could've won that game, and for the Suns they had only 13 assits with Barbosa leading the way with zero. Maybe the Wiz don't play defense, and these suns really really need Nash. i like the spurs chances on ending the Wiz'z streak.
exstatic, before Nash was injured, the Suns had played 35 games and do you know how many games that Nash was not the leader in team assists?
One game, the New orleans game where Johnson had 7 assists and Nash who got hurt in 2nd Q and only played 19 mins. Nash had 6 assists in that 19 mins,
btw...one behind Johnson, who played 44 mins.
"1. A nashless Suns team scored over a 100 pts
... Maybe the Wiz don't play defense"
Wiz are the worst in NBA in PPG allowed, and the Wiz win by on average by less the 2 pts.
On average, ALL opponents of Wizards score 100 PPG, so that the high-offense, Nash-less Suns managed to do it indicates nothing (all the other teams don't have Nash still score 100 PPG).
Last edited by boutons; 01-16-2005 at 12:18 PM.
Well you backed up my observation, I wasn't looking at the stats for the year, but that game shows me they don't play good defense, and you just backed it up with the stats and then say it does't mean anything, it does mean something, because the Spurs do play defense and are a very good offensive team. How many times have the Spurs given up a 100 pts to any team, not very many, of that I'm sure of.
I agree with the statement that washington is a good team. if Tim Duncan continues to sleep walk though games the Spurs will lose this one big.
Nash is by no way the MVP. You can't be MVP if you only play offense. The last time a guard was voted MVP, was Magic Johnson. Magic played at both ends of the court, Nash does not. Some people think the MVP is giving to the player who makes his team better by his presence, WRONG. Check the history, most writers consider the MVP to be the best player in the NBA for the year. Based upon this criteria Nash will not be considered MVP.
"the Spurs do play defense"
... but too erratically. Last night, like vs DAL, the Spurs defense collapsed in the 4th qtr, allowing HOU 25 pts, while Spurs offense also collapsed in the 4th, scoring just 17.
When the Spurs playd bad/mediocre defense, they also play like on offense, because, at least this year, the Spurs defensive execution has been the platform for the offensive attack, with RB, STLs, TOs leading to FB and transition points.
The Spurs are a pretty ty half-court offense team, since the Spurs offense is built on clogging up the middle with a C and PF vs shooting teams or motion offenses like SAC that spread the floor to open up the middle. The Lakers clogged up their paint last May, and the Spurs when 0-4. Stop Tim's inside game, make driving difficult, and you stop the Spurs.
ie, the Spurs HAVE to play good defense because their offense really isn't up there with the best offenses. SA is 14th in PPG. If the Spurs defense can't take the opponent offense out of its game, the Spurs are done.
The problem last night was the JVG gave the Spurs some of their own defensive medicine (very much like the playoff Lakers did), and the Spurs soft offense couldn't hit (just like last May), Spurs lose.
And of course, the Spurs missed 10 FTs, including 3 FTs missed in crunch time, then lose by 6 points.
^^^
7-19 shooting against defensive standouts Yao and Howard didnt help either
Magic?
My goodness. What year is today?
There's a guy in Philly who doesn't agree with you.The last time a guard was voted MVP, was Magic Johnson.
Ignoring that obviously MJ won, Allen Iverson just won in 2001.
I stand (with egg on my face) corrected. I meant point guard. Both MJ and Al were SG when they won. And they both played defence as well as offense. My point is still valid, one cannot only play offense and win MVP.
GoSpurs is correct. It's VERY difficult for a point guard to win the MVP, due to statistical reasons. The only other points guards to win MVP to my recollection besides Magic are the Big O, and Cousy.
And he's right, Iverson was playing shooting guard when he won MVP.
"I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ---> Shaq
dam that's funny
Jason Kidd lost by a hair, and a big reason for that was that he was in the East, and Duncan was having a comparable season in the West.
This year, there really hasn't been a big man having a dominant season for any top team. Duncan has underachieved somewhat, Garnett is on a barely .500 team, and Shaq is arguably the second most valuable player on his own team. If the vote was today, Nash would win by a landslide.
And it really has nothing to do with defense. If the Suns have the best record in the NBA, then clearly his defense has not been a factor. They win by running their opponents out of the building, and Nash is the motor.
I said it before, some people think the MVP is giving to the player who makes his team better by his presence, WRONG. Check the history, most writers consider the MVP to be the best overall (stats) player in the NBA for the year.
Based upon this criteria I dont see how Nash will be considered MVP. There is still more than half a season to play. Can any team really maintain the intensity and minutes that the Suns are displaying. If Nash is out for more than 10 games he will probably be out of the running as well.
I tend to agree that Nash has made the biggest positive effect on his team than any other player. I just dont see that all the writers will vote this way. In fact the vote may get split between 3-5 different players. Could be the closest vote in history.
Who is the MVP then?
- History also shows that players rarely win the MVP unless they also win their division.
- Nash has stats to back up his candidacy. He leads the NBA in assists and he's in the top ten in FG%, which is normally unheard of for a guard.
- And obviously, if we're talking about the MVP so far, it doesn't matter how he holds up later in the season.
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