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    John McCain doesn't think you'd last....


    The first questioner seemed to challenge his commitment to organized labor. When McCain started to praise a particular labor group in Arizona, the crowd booed again.

    “Stop!” he said with a smile, drawing laughter from the crowd. “I surrender.”

    But he took more questions, including a pointed one on his immigration plan.

    McCain responded by saying immigrants were taking jobs nobody else wanted. He offered anybody in the crowd $50 an hour to pick lettuce in Arizona.

    Shouts of protest rose from the crowd, with some accepting McCain’s job offer.

    “I’ll take it!” one man shouted.

    McCain insisted none of them would do such menial labor for a complete season. “You can’t do it, my friends.”
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    Outdoor, stress-free labor? I'd do it for $25/hr.

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    Ditto. I would walk out of my current job this second for that gig if I could manage at least $25/hr.

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    Outdoor, stress-free labor? I'd do it for $25/hr.
    Even though you were offered $50. Nice.

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    So THAT'S why I'm so underpaid. I had this whole salary negotiation thing all wrong. Blast!

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    That's why I dislike McCain. He's an illegal alien lover. He needs to support the laws, not help or justify breaking them.

    Yes. I would do it for $50/hr.

    Funny thing how people buy into their bull ...

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    That's why I dislike McCain. He's an illegal alien lover. He needs to support the laws, not help or justify breaking them.

    Yes. I would do it for $50/hr.

    Funny thing how people buy into their bull ...
    for how long? a day, a week, a month? then what? you'd probably only do it for a couple hourse and say this .

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    Not only would I do it, I'd work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week.

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    I wouldn't do it. Mostly because I have a bad knee, shoulder, and back so I physcially couldn't do it for more than a day or two. But I'd be willing to put in a day and make $500 bucks before walking out

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    Most people would not do it for long. You need to get acclimated to that type of work and be in fairly good shape. Too many people are out of shape and over weight and would not last.

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    You have to wonder. Who did this work before the illegals came
    along? I am quite sure the lettuce didn't walk out of the fields
    by themselves.

    And I have another question. Why cant the damn government
    come up with a program to admit "legal" workers into the
    states in sufficient numbers to handle crops. Would that be
    so hard?

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    yea I'd do it for $50 an hour.

    My family and I used to do it for about $2 an hour when I was a kid.

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    You have to wonder. Who did this work before the illegals came
    along? I am quite sure the lettuce didn't walk out of the fields
    by themselves.

    At what precise point did the illegals "come along"?

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    Sign me up...

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    Let me put it this way. I was born in North Texas and we had
    one Mexican family in my hometown. I went to school with their
    children. Now my hometown has a very large Mexican population,
    mostly illegal. They came along after I was a grown man.
    Now you figure it out. They haven't always been here as you
    are attempting to insinuate.

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    Let me put it this way. I was born in North Texas and we had
    one Mexican family in my hometown. I went to school with their
    children. Now my hometown has a very large Mexican population,
    mostly illegal. They came along after I was a grown man.
    Now you figure it out. They haven't always been here as you
    are attempting to insinuate.
    They were all over the American southwest before Manifest Destiny raped them of thier land and branded them foreingers.

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    They were all over the American southwest before Manifest Destiny raped them of thier land and branded them foreingers.
    And, the Native Americans before them...

    What's your point?

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    we need to fix our skilled immigrant 'system' (lottery ) of assimilation first
    Touché . . .

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    Let me put it this way. I was born in North Texas and we had
    one Mexican family in my hometown. I went to school with their
    children. Now my hometown has a very large Mexican population,
    mostly illegal. They came along after I was a grown man.
    Now you figure it out. They haven't always been here as you
    are attempting to insinuate.
    Your wrong. Mexicans have been in Texas long before there were Texans.
    You would think someone who has lived on this Earth as long as you would have more smarts.

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    Why would I work when I can collect welfare?

    As long as the Mexicans don't take my mailbox, they can have my jobs!

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    Your wrong. Mexicans have been in Texas long before there were Texans.
    You would think someone who has lived on this Earth as long as you would have more smarts.
    Really. How do you know that. Were you all over Texas.

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    Would You Pick Lettuce for $50/hour?
    no!

    (I have a bad back)

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    for how long? a day, a week, a month? then what? you'd probably only do it for a couple hourse and say this .
    If I could be a farm worker for $50/hr, damn right I'd do it. I like the outdoors. I like sweating and doing physical work.

    Sorry if you think you're too good to work for $50 per hour. If you make more than that, they great. I only made over $100k during three years of my like. It's nice to have that type of money to play with. If it takes hard work to have it again, then damn strait, I'd do it.

    Problem is, the job doesn't pay that much. It was a statement of propaganda to justify letting illegals work. Wages, like any thing else are supply and demand driven. The farmers want to bring in the illegal workers so they can have a good supply of labor and not have to raise their wages to bring in citizen workers. Employers are part of the problem. It's not that USA workers won't do the job, it's that we won't do them at slave wages. They can attract legal workers if they pay more. As long as we allow illegal workers to do these jobs, the wages will never be to our standards.

    I say take the people on welfare and make them do these jobs. At least make them work part time to get the balance of their checks. The only people we should be giving unearned income to are those who cannot work. The elderly, disabled, etc. All able bodied workers should do something for their money instead of being freeloaders. We have too many freeloaders in this nation.

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    Why would I work when I can collect welfare?

    As long as the Mexicans don't take my mailbox, they can have my jobs!
    [/SARCASM], RIGHT?

    Looks like we agree. As long as we have able bodied workers not working, we don't need to allow more unskilled workers in. My though anyway, yours?

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    Your wrong. Mexicans have been in Texas long before there were Texans.
    You would think someone who has lived on this Earth as long as you would have more smarts.
    Texas Symbols, State Names

    From an Indian word meaning “friends”

    Texas comes from the word "teysha" meaning " o friend" in the language of the Caddo Indian tribes. Spanish explorers and settlers used this word to refer to the friendly tribes throughout Louisiana, Oklahoma and Texas.

    The state motto of Texas is "Friendship." The word, Texas, or Tejas, was the Spanish pronunciation of a Caddo Indian word meaning "friends" or "allies." (Acts of 1930, fourth called session of the 41st Legislature, p. 105.)
    Of course, I wonder what would have happened if the mayans had actually gotten it up their butts to conquer the other indian tribes in this area and further their civilization...




    ooops.

    I guess attributing all the evils of humanity to one civilization or another might be something of a stupid exercise to begin with.

    Is there any doubt in anybody's mind that if the native american tribes had gotten ironworking and tool usage down a millennia before the Europeans they would have been any less kind to the European tribes (yes Europeans lived in tribes before there were nations)?

    Evil is evil, but nitpicking about this is a waste of time in my opinion.
    Last edited by RandomGuy; 04-15-2008 at 02:59 PM. Reason: Made a phrase a bit clearer.

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