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He hasn't had a lot of PT lately, but he started almost every game this season for them. What would the Mavs have to offer that would interest the Jazz?
Anybody familiar with the Utah Jazz scene, is this guy an "untouchable"? Are they that excited about him? I'm sure they love this guy and any trade for him would have a hefty price tag attached to it.
All I know is that he'd be a perfect fit on the Mavericks. I just don't know if the Jazz like him, love him, would part with him in the right deal, etc.
He hasn't had a lot of PT lately, but he started almost every game this season for them. What would the Mavs have to offer that would interest the Jazz?
Probably not much, but I'd love to know what the Jazz see Brewer's value being. I'd do a Howard for Brewer trade in a heartbeat, but I don't know how highly the Jazz view Brewer.
They would probably do that. Brewer is a great defender but he only gets 3 boards a game.
Yeah that worried me when I saw it, but I think his ability to slash & finish, along with lockdown defense makes up for it. He's a much better fit with Kidd.
Plus he's a great athlete so if he just works harder at it, those rebound numbers will go up.
I like Brewer too, but I think we can get more for Howard than him.
I can't wait to weigh in on this with a pompously too long post, but I got to get some work done first. In short, yes, he is probably untouchable.
I remember the Spurs liked this kid so much that they were rumoured to have tried to move up to take him ahead of Utah. He's a fine player.
nice player but nothing spectacular
now your seriously overrating the guy
Brewer reminds me of a more athletic Joe Johnson his first few seasons in Phoenix. JJ left too early, and really struggled to find touch on his shot and consistency in his game for the first few seasons. Brewer left after the same amount of years. It took JJ 2-1/2 years to really become a quality player and three years before stating to live up to his potential.
Brewer is a better athlete, thus better perimeter defender, but has the court vision to become a very good second option for some team. He needs to develop his shot like JJ, but if he does, he'll be crazy good.
I'm not sure Brewer will ever be as good as JJ, namely because JJ has 15-to-20 pounds on him, but his athleticism is a definite plus. I think if your opinion of Brewer is based upon his play to this point, it's a very limited view.
I don't think I'd trade Howard for Brewer straight up, but if Dallas can trade Howard and another quality player for Kirilenko and Brewer, then I'd do that. Jazz are looking to unload Kirilenko's contract, and Howard's is a quality contract as far as cost.
I don't know if it's possilble, but I certainly see why Mono is so high on Brewer. Maybe not why he's so down on Howard, but Brewer is a top-level prospect that maybe could be had for pennies on the dollar since he's been so inconsistent.
Brewer doesnt have the ball handling ability or shooting ability like JJ but he is much better defensively
that. We don't need a crybaby on this team. Josh Howard has 2 close relatives die, including his grandmother who had a huge role in raising him, and never said a word to anyone about it. Other people from the team had to tell the media what was going on with him.
Meanwhile, you got AK-47 crying over ing playing time when HE was the one that was sucking too badly to get any playing time.
The deal with Brewer is this: He'll never be a good shooter. Ever. He broke his arm when he was a kid and it healed weird, which prevents him from having a normal or a quick release. He gets by with it and has a decent shot under the cir stances, but nevertheless, shooting won't ever be his strength. The comparisons to JJ are ridiculous. He's nowhere near as good a passer, ball handler or shooter. Never will be. Plays much better defense, finishes around the rim far better than JJ.
If the Jazz want to keep Brewer they have to either unload AK or commit to going over the cap. I'd prefer the former so we could lock up Brewer and Millsap. We have a team option on Brewer through 09-10 which is relatively cheap, but by that point we'll have needed to extend Deron. Right now the caps at 57 Million and Deron's contract alone will put us at about that. If we want to keep Brewer past 09-10 we have to move AK. Luckily, he expires after 10-11 so he should be pretty easy to move before that last season.
I would probably trade Brewer for Howard, but it could actually be a huge mistake. Ronnie plays so well around the rim and he's athletic (two things we're short on) that it might hurt us to lose him, no matter who we brought in. As much as I like Ronnie it sucks that our starting SG and SF can't shoot worth a lick. To be honest I'd rather lose AK for Howard rather than Brewer.
His main strength is defense. He can lock down his man and play the passing lanes at the same time. He's long enough to do it without being a huge risktaker. Sometimes he goes for steals a bit too much, but he's generally pretty good about staying on his man when its a star like Kobe, T-Mac etc. And he's smart enough to know Sloan'll kick ass all over the locker room if he doesn't.
Who Dallas fans should be clammoring for is the slept on CJ miles. I like what Brewer brings to the table for us and we already have Korver and Almond to shoot, so I'd rather have them, but in the long run CJ could be a full on superstar scoring machine in this league. Plus, I think Sloan's made him understand the importance of defense. Despite all that UT has too many shooting guards under contract and I highly doubt UT will spend to resign him this summer. If I were the Mavs I'd be all over the kid.
youre going way too far mono
Yeah I've seen CJ play a couple of times and I've seen a load of potential in that kid. The problem is that even if we could get him that moron Avery would probably demoralize the kid and probably not let him grow. Avery.
Yeah. Right now you guys need shooting, not just scoring. Brewer is definitely not that. To take away Howard's mid-range game would kill that team.
Any chance if he s up the playoffs badly that Cuban let's him go? I read somewhere that him and Cuban got in a post-game fight a few weeks back. The problem is- who do you get that's better? Larry Brown would just piss the vets off and although I like Carlisle I don't see his preferred way of playing fitting with that team.
As great as he is, Josh Howard is part of what's wrong with this team. He disappears in the 4th quarter and rarely makes big plays when it matters.
This isn't necessarily about getting equal value, but rather getting rid of the failing pieces surrounding Dirk & Kidd. Plus, Howard getting a fresh start elsewhere could move him to play even better.
And Brewer is a TERRIFIC slasher & finisher. You want a badass fastbreak? How bout Kidd/Brewer/Terry sprinting down the court?
The team needs motion on offense, and more easy buckets. I'd gladly get rid of a good jump shooter for a top-notch slasher/finisher.
I doubt Cuban will let him go, he'll probably just make excuses for Avery. Cuban sucks
This is why I really didn't recommend the Jason Kidd trade, the offense needed to be changed and we needed at least a decent Sg or post presence.
I do agree they should put in a motion offense, but I also think Howard could fit that Slasher/finisher role if they did implement said offense and Avery would just let him do it. He's athetic enough to run the break too. Plus on top of that he can knock down 18 footers. Terry can't do that consistently. If you guys moved Howard your only midrange shooter would be Dirk. At that point you'd be playing like the Warriors.
To be fair he does have to compete with Boozer, Memo and Millsap. I think if we needed him to do so he could get more.
The Mavs made the right move going after Kidd.
Their mistake was not also going after Mike Miller.
Well, like I said. Go get yourselves some CJ miles this summer. You wouldn't regret it in the least.
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