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    http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns...sside0418.html

    Suns expect physical series with Spurs
    The Arizona Republic

    By the time this basketball bloodbath, er, first-round playoff series, ends, Phoenix and San Antonio might have played each other as many as 20 times since November 2006.

    Familiarity breeds contempt . . . and wounds. The wounds are physical and emotional, particularly when the Suns have taken a literal and figurative beating from the Spurs until this season.

    "It's going to be knockdown, drag-out," Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said. "We're going to have to beat them and beat them solid."
    Suns guard Steve Nash is the target of much of the physical play. Spurs guard Bruce Bowen, a top backcourt defender, tries to wear down Nash. Bowen applies in-your-face, and even in-your-groin, defense to Nash. He tenaciously grates on guards' nerves with tactics Amaré Stoudemire called "dirty" last season.

    D'Antoni was asked about the way Bowen defended Nash after Game 3 last year. D'Antoni wadded up a summary sheet and said, "If that's the way everyone wants it, we'll play that way, too," before exiting.

    Nash keeps his complaints on Bowen's hands-on approach to a minimum. He even said he enjoyed last year's Suns-Spurs series, immortalized by his nose's bloody gash in Game 1.

    "I think it (Bowen's defense) is a great challenge," Nash said. "It's kind of a little game within the game, so I enjoy that.

    "I grew up playing hockey and rugby so this is nothing. Basketball is like nothing compared to soccer even. Growing up in soccer, the other team's mucker (is) trying to break your leg every game as 12-year-olds. You grow up, and you become somewhat immune or used to that."

    Does Nash deem the style dirty or aggressive?

    "I think it's both, but I respect that," he said. "I think it's good. He (Bowen) does what he can to make himself effective, and that's good."

    D'Antoni said he did not think Robert Horry's hip check into Nash was calculated enough to have been intended to draw suspensions. But he said Horry's flagrant foul and Bowen's elbow into Stoudemire last week were late-game messages in Suns wins.

    "He hip-checked to say, 'Hey, we're not going anywhere; We're here,' " D'Antoni said. "Then, it's how we react to that.

    "There was a message (in Bowen's elbow) that, 'We're still here.' There's a message in how they do everything. It could be a blocked shot. It could be a rebound. Their message is they're proud and they're tough."

    D'Antoni said he expected San Antonio "gamesmanship" in this series.

    "You're still going to hate them," D'Antoni said. "You still have a scar there. But if we played New Orleans, I would hate them, too. Compe ion overrides everything."

    The most physical clash might be in the post, where Shaquille O'Neal has fortified Phoenix's interior muscle and held Tim Duncan to 15-of-40 shooting in two Suns wins with him. In games over the previous three seasons, Duncan went 24 for 57 (42 percent) from the field when he and O'Neal played.

    D'Antoni said Stoudemire begins games on Duncan because O'Neal said, "I don't start with him. I finish with him."

    "We also have to make Mr. Duncan play defense," O'Neal said.

    "It ain't going to be a one-sided thing where Tim's just playing offense. Tim's going to have to play defense either way, whether he's guarding me or Amaré. I always tell Amaré that guys that try to go at you and get you in foul trouble, reciprocate it and do the same thing."

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    Pretty classy responses from D'Antoni, I expected less.

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    Everyone from the Suns is saying all the right things. Wait until the Spurs win a few games in the series and watch the , , , and come back.

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    If Nash respects Bowen's game and looks forward to physicality, why does he and his team incessantly about it?

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    If Nash respects Bowen's game and looks forward to physicality, why does he and his team incessantly about it?
    Series hasn't started yet, they're feeling good about their regular season wins, confidence is high, they know to compliment the opponent.

    Once some calls don't go their way, expect the ing and whining to start. I'd expect no less.

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    this is going to be one of a series. I just hope no one gets killed.

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    I look forward to Amare getting suspended for throwing a tantrum over bowen playing defense on him.

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    Since the Suns STILL have never actually been in a "physical series" I'm not sure what the they are talking about.

    The Suns series was the third most physical the Spurs had in the western conference playoffs last year.

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    Series hasn't started yet, they're feeling good about their regular season wins, confidence is high, they know to compliment the opponent.

    Once some calls don't go their way, expect the ing and whining to start. I'd expect no less.
    That's a very accurate response, but my post was more of a rhetorical question

    Spurs whine too when calls don't go their way, however, they maintain composure and do not talk about it to the media. Can't say the same for the Suns (they'll have to work on that this series).

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    this is going to be one of a series. I just hope no one gets killed.
    lol, seriously! That includes the crazy fans in the stadium too! Alcohol and too much exsposure to sunlight in our Suns fans makes being in the US Airways Arena dangerous from time to time! O_O

    And I really hope my guys stop whinning and just play -_- This "they're too rough!" at ude tends to get a bit old. Last time I checked basketball was a contact sport...

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    Nash tends to act like a great sportsman off the court, but once he gets nailed in the groin or thrown to the floor he and D'antoni hold hands and cry about it...

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    That's a very accurate response, but my post was more of a rhetorical question

    Spurs whine too when calls don't go their way, however, they maintain composure and do not talk about it to the media. Can't say the same for the Suns (they'll have to work on that this series).
    Yes Spurs do whine...but they don't about it 3 months later, talking about strangers telling them how they got "robbed" and promoting that "we are the victims of a huge conspiracy" that the whole organization still embraces

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    this is going to be one of a series. I just hope no one gets killed.
    The only way someone gets killed is from the idiots in the stands throwing because they can't behave like adults.

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    Pre-series Shaq comments.

    We'll see what he says after game 1.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...ideoId=3352033

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    Since the Suns STILL have never actually been in a "physical series" I'm not sure what the they are talking about.

    The Suns series was the third most physical the Spurs had in the western conference playoffs last year.
    Too true. I'd like to see the Suns play the 2005 Sonics or the 2005 Pistons as well.

    The only way someone gets killed is from the idiots in the stands throwing because they can't behave like adults.
    Yep. The Spurs will have to be careful of that when they go to Phoenix

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    LOL @ Spurs fans posting about players complaining about calls/non-calls.

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    With that said, this series is going to be a great one. With the end result likely being a Spurs series win in 6.

    It's going to be exciting and the drama that has built up over the past few PO series' is definitely going to add flair.

    Get ready for the perpetual Horry hip check, Suns bench, Nash bloody face, Bowen kicking Amare's feeting, Bowen elbowing Amare, Bowen getting physical with Nash replays until this series is over.

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    LOL @ Spurs fans posting about players complaining about calls/non-calls.
    What thread are you reading?

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    Since the Suns STILL have never actually been in a "physical series" I'm not sure what the they are talking about.
    It reminds me of some media type asking Tim Duncan at some point during last year's series and whether it was among the most physical series he'd ever played in; Tim offered his instantaneous response asking if the reporter had seen the Denver series. That's about right. The sense of what is physical certainly varies by opponent, but the prevailing view of playoff physicality in the Suns camp seems to have little connection to the realities of playoff basketball.

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    LOL @ Spurs fans posting about players complaining about calls/non-calls.

    -----------------

    With that said, this series is going to be a great one. With the end result likely being a Spurs series win in 6.

    It's going to be exciting and the drama that has built up over the past few PO series' is definitely going to add flair.

    Get ready for the perpetual Horry hip check, Suns bench, Nash bloody face, Bowen kicking Amare's feeting, Bowen elbowing Amare, Bowen getting physical with Nash replays until this series is over.

    Coupled with 80 House of Payne promos there will definitely be a nostalgia factor. Does anybody watch that show? Seriously, they won NAACP spirit awards, that's as surprising as Will & Grace winning the GLAAD awards.

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    Since the Suns STILL have never actually been in a "physical series" I'm not sure what the they are talking about.
    It reminds me of some media type asking Tim Duncan at some point during last year's series and whether it was among the most physical series he'd ever played in; Tim offered his instantaneous response asking if the reporter had seen the Denver series. That's about right. The sense of what is physical certainly varies by opponent, but the prevailing view of playoff physicality in the Suns camp seems to have little connection to the realities of playoff basketball.
    Exactly. Spurs vs. Suns series are usually soft series. It might change now that Shaq is involved but up until this point, "physical" is about the last adjective I'd use to describe 2005 or 2007.

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    "He hip-checked to say, 'Hey, we're not going anywhere; We're here,' " D'Antoni said. "Then, it's how we react to that.
    Hopefully Nash again flops spread eagled into the scorer's table to entice his own teammates of the bench.


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    This is getting so old. How is it that the ing has already started about the "physical play" etc without the playoffs even starting?

    Why is it that all these quotes are coming from the Suns camp and nothign from the Spurs? Suns are already playing like they're scared. Good to see some things don't change, even if you add a 330 pound beast.

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    From a maverick fan here, I wouldn't be so sure that SA will win the series, Phoenix's front court finally > your front court. TD hasn't showed in the games vs. Phoenix that he can still dominate that front court with O'neal there. Shaq plays good defense on him. It all comes down to TD, if he dominates like he always does, and is MVP-TD, the Suns have no chance, if he plays average, I will learn towards the solars.

    Even though I still think SA will win the series, because I just don't buy into Phoenix's "defense", I wouldn't be so confident that it'd be an 'easy' series or wouldn't be worried about SA potentially losing it.... Should be a great one.

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    It's "physical" when we play teams like Utah.

    It's "dirty" when we play the prom queens.

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    From a maverick fan here, I wouldn't be so sure that SA will win the series, Phoenix's front court finally > your front court. TD hasn't showed in the games vs. Phoenix that he can still dominate that front court with O'neal there. Shaq plays good defense on him. It all comes down to TD, if he dominates like he always does, and is MVP-TD, the Suns have no chance, if he plays average, I will learn towards the solars.

    Even though I still think SA will win the series, because I just don't buy into Phoenix's "defense", I wouldn't be so confident that it'd be an 'easy' series or wouldn't be worried about SA potentially losing it.... Should be a great one.
    Let's base TD's PLAYOFF performance on 2 regular season games! yipeeeeee

    Suns fans are clinging to the above and I doubt that will be the outcome.



    He's Tim ing Duncan. He WILL show up.

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