if you vote for half-season MVP who would that be?
CNNSi asked, and the result was:
Allen 5%
Duncan 14%
Lebron 23%
ShaQ 13%
Nash 35%
other 10%
note:KG was not on the list?
Shaq and Lebron should be considered. Nash and Allen don't play defense enough, and the MVP should not be someone who doesn't play defense.
Duncan is not playing like and MVp, but I'm not sure that's a bad thing. His slightly reduced role (and it is slight - he's still averaging a double double seems to coincide with Parker coming into his own.
KG won't be considered if the Wolves don't make the playoffs, and right now they're not in the top 8.
Garnett's my pick. It's not his fault Spree, Hudson, and KandiAss haven't shown up to play while ET's age and injuries are doing him in.
How can you pick KG, dawg? His team isn't even in the playoffs. Give Tim Duncan me, you, Sequ and Steve Smith and we are in the playoffs.
Let's be real.
If it's true mVp, then I think Nash's absence and Phoenix's subsequent record should tell you all you need to know.
i would vote nash. it's been pretty clear lately..
Thanks for the props bro...
Sheyitt.........
We bring home the le.
Nash is the MVP all the way at this stage...Phoenix is a lottery team without him...KG's team is a lottery team with him...and IMO this Spur team would make a strong run at a playoff seed even without Duncan.
If you are going by pure stats, a lot of bigmen are doing more than Nash, but in terms of having an impact on W-L and putting up huge numbers, Nash is the clear cut MVP IMO...for now, and Shaq is right behind him.
Spurs without Duncan wouldn't win 10 games.
Damn, we must suck compared to last season then, when we went 5-3 without him, with 3 of those wins against playoff teams. And obviously we are worse this season...
Dude, without Duncan, we would have no front line.
It would be a dunkfest.
Which would make us equivalent to about 70% of the teams that will make the playoffs this year...
Who does have a front line, outside of about 4 teams?
In addition to the way our team performed without Duncan last season...
Take a look at this season, Duncan hasn't exactly been tearing up the NBA over the past month, yet here we sit with the best record in the NBA...
Furthermore, Duncan is putting up near career lows in virtually every category, and playing fewer minutes than any other year of his career...
Yet here this team sits with the best record in the NBA.
These are not your Daddy's(or mine) Spurs...
The days of this team being 1 superstar surrounded by scrub journeymen are over....
This team has talent and it has depth and our record proves it.
So much depth in fact that, IMO, Duncan is pretty much disqualified from the MVP race this season...this team would need to win about 70 games for Duncan to be the MVP(and yes, the voters will vote based on winning PCT more than any other factor).
Nash > James > Dirk/Duncan
Who can honestly say
Duncan deserves MVP this year yet? That being said he could surge and deserve it and if Spurs lock down top seed with him getting back to old self make the arguement.
Dirk has to also be mentioned = scary good and where would Dallas be without him?
It's not about who is the best player...I wouldn't take Nash over Duncan under any cir stances, but Nash is the MVP going by historical trends
It's about who is most integral to their teams success out of the most successful teams...that may not be everyones' idea of how the MVP should be decided...but history shows that is exactly how it is decided.
The Elite team(we are talking one of the top 4 records in the NBA) that is the most reliant on 1 Superstar, gets their best player rewarded with the MVP trophy about 90% of the time....the more talented the team, the bigger the gap has to be between them and the next closest team, the more games they have to win, for their best player to get the MVP.
IE: Shaq had to win 67 games to get an MVP, when he was playing on a team with Kobe.
Last edited by whottt; 01-21-2005 at 01:48 AM.
Props? He's saying that Tim Duncan plus 3 scrubs playing 4 on 5 would be in the playoffs.
You're the basketball.
How can anyone even mention Garnett when the T-Pups get punked by the Kobe-less Lakers?
Lebron=MVP
Lebron MVP!!Spurs Champions
james will get a mvp award but not yet
I'd be torn between James & Nash.
Code:Cleveland Phoenix 2002-03 17-65 2003-04 35-47 29-53 2004-05 * 50-32 64-18 *projection based on current record
edit: okay, I fixed it smartie pants.
Last edited by SpursWoman; 01-21-2005 at 03:22 PM. Reason: woke up
How about:
Steve MVP
LeBron MIP
James....please....
Nash, then Kobe...
I love James, but he's the flavour of the week right now, in everyone's periphery. An amazing talent, but unless he averages a Triple double for the rest of the year, he's not going to make it. Just because he's 20 shouldn't matter either.
Medvedenko, that was a pretty decent take until...
Kobe?
Kobe?
GTF out of here homer...
Dude with the 6th best record in the conference is in second place for the MVP? Dream the on.
Why should a guy get the MVP for taking his franchise into the toilet, and turning a once feared le contender into the of the elite teams, all out of pure stupidity?
No MVP for Kobe. I don't hate the Lakers as much as I used to, but there is absolutely no case you can make for Kobe being the MVP, and you really come off looking like a homer by trying to say he is more worthy of the MVP than Shaq.
The only award Kobe should be in the running for this season is the dumbass punked his own self league of the year award.
Admit how badly your team has ed up, how Kobe championed the ing up, and stop living in denial.
Last edited by whottt; 01-21-2005 at 01:25 PM.
Thanks Whott...always liked your analysis on the situation. Once again your insight has enlightened the usual sardonic tone of this website. You are so right, I my as well just quit this board and punch myself in the balls.
Whott: contribute please, you're lame comments are so pedestrian it really hurts.
50 + 22 = 72 ???I'd be torn between James & Nash.
Code:Cleveland Phoenix 2002-03 17-65 2003-04 35-47 29-53 2004-05 * 50-22 64-18 *projection based on current record
64 + 18 = 82 !!!
I would go with Nash too if they're not going to let the Cavs play a whole season!
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