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Duncan owns them all. No question.
- Mars
How many of you think with out a doubt Timmy is the best PF ever to play? If you think someone is better or could also hold the le of best PF who is it? I know people knock Chuck Barkley and Malone...but they were just victims of the Jordan Era.
Duncan owns them all. No question.
- Mars
Not even really a question, even Barkley rates him as the best PF of all time.
So if Barkley was a Spur and Duncan wasn't at any point in his career you still feel that way? I like Timmy....he's no doubt top 3...just not sold on #1. I like to hear other peoples opinion.
After Malone and Barkley there is kind of a drop off. I'd have to say there's really no compe ion considering neither has a single ring. As far as pure talent i'd say Garnett and Nowitzki, but again...neither has a ring.
They built a franchise around Duncan and he's been able to win even after changing the supporting cast numerous times. He also does it on both ends of the floor much better than Barkley or Malone.
check this out
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2074360
..and that was in '05 (before he got #4)
Tiiiiiiiiiimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmyyyyyyyyyyyy
Timmmmmmmyyyyyyyyyyy...!!!
Ain't even near being close! Need we say more!
Tim Duncan is the best center in the NBA right now. Of course, he's listed as a forward, but in all truth, Duncan is a center. At 7-0 260lbs, everything about Duncan screams center except for what's listed by his name on roster sheets. His two-plus blocks per game anchors the Spurs' defense in the middle, and he plays in the low post to anchor the Spurs' offense. San Antonio strategically pairs him with other 7-footers to take pressure off the star at the defensive end. Former Houston Rockets' star Hakeem Olajuwon played alongside 7-4 Ralph Sampson in his earlier years, coining the term "twin towers," yet no one considers Hakeem Olajuwon a power forward for his career. Duncan is a center and is the league's best center at that. His offensive efficiency and defensive prowess make him a difficult foe for any team, and his numerous rings evidence his greatness.
Tim's not 7'0". He's probably a legit 6'10". If people don't go around randomly re-classifying 7'1" Kevin Garnett as a C, I don't see why they do it to Duncan. Charles Barkley had a monster post game, too. Was he a center?
If Tim Duncan is a center, Bill Laimbeer was a guard. After all, Laimbeer shot a lot of jump shots.Tim Duncan is the best center in the NBA right now. Of course, he's listed as a forward, but in all truth, Duncan is a center. At 7-0 260lbs, everything about Duncan screams center except for what's listed by his name on roster sheets. His two-plus blocks per game anchors the Spurs' defense in the middle, and he plays in the low post to anchor the Spurs' offense. San Antonio strategically pairs him with other 7-footers to take pressure off the star at the defensive end. Former Houston Rockets' star Hakeem Olajuwon played alongside 7-4 Ralph Sampson in his earlier years, coining the term "twin towers," yet no one considers Hakeem Olajuwon a power forward for his career. Duncan is a center and is the league's best center at that. His offensive efficiency and defensive prowess make him a difficult foe for any team, and his numerous rings evidence his greatness.
I don't care for that sort of analysis. It assumes that positions must be played one and only one way, which is not at all true. If Duncan was a center, he sure does handle the ball, pass the ball, and shoot jumpers a of a lot better than just about every other center.
Oscar Robertson must have been a center; he posted up a lot and grabbed a lot of rebounds.
Magic Johnson couldn't be a point guard - he's 6'9".
Lafayette Lever must have been a power forward - look at his rebounds.
Brad Daugherty couldn't have been a center - look at his blocks totals.
On and on and on goes that faulty line of analysis.
Actually, I'd like your reasons why he's not the best PF of all time.
By the way, "victims of the Jordan era" is a complete and total copout.Babe Ruth is considered one of the greatest ballplayers of all time but he and his teams were beaten in the World Series more than once. If Barkley and the Suns or Malone and the Jazz really had the goods, either one could have beaten the Bulls in the 90's.
I hate these people that give players a pass just because the were "victims of the Jordan era". Knock that off, please.
@ ballijuana trying to reclassify Duncan as a center.
It's been tried many times, and every time is an epic fail.
Baseball and basketball are totally different animals. 1 player can take over a basketball game. 6 les in 8 years seems to be alot of victims of awesome team. I'm not trying to flame or anything but I don't think the Spurs are winning les in that Era.
By the way, "victims of the Jordan era" is a complete and total copout.
And it usually takes many days and many pages per thread...
Then go post your question on another board
You are other people..........I know it's a tough concept to grasp...but I BEElieve in you.Then go post your question on another board
I'm biased, but for me Duncan is by far the best PF to ever play. His core game is simply stronger than any of the others in the conversation. The pure fundamentals are prettier to me than any of the power moves or flash. His basketball IQ is off the charts, he makes everyone around him better. He's selfless, he's only about the team and the win. And his footwork is a thing of beauty. So is his court vision and his passing.
Take away position and I'd put him top 15 of all time period. His legacy is set now, anything he adds from here on will only move him up.
But, like I said, I'm biased.
Why are you not "sold" on him being #1??
Let's pretend that you are "other people"...what's your opinion?
In the last 25 years, the PF position has been redefined three times, McHale did it, then Malone, then Duncan. Duncan has set the bar higher than anyone, when he retires, he will be in the conversation of Top 10 all-time of all NBA players.
Just me.....But I think a Karl Malone in his prime > over Duncan. Now i'm biased because growing up the Jazz were my fav. team ever because of Stockton, Malone, Hornacek, and Sloan coaching..I loved the way they played. I think if Jordan isn't around Malone has two les.(Kinda of like Hakeem getting his the two years Jordan was out of league.) Malone was just a beast though. If he wanted to score he was going to score. Even though they did play each other it def. wasn't Malone at his top anymore...but he was still effective. I prob. have Timmy at #2. Malones biggest knock was he didn't demand the ball at the end....because Stockton was the clutch shooter on that team. Malone made his fair share of big shots though.
But that's just my opinion.
I would disagree. As someone who has watched both of them throughout their entire careers, especially with the Jazz being in the Spurs division just about the entire time, I would give the edge to Duncan. Slightly but still. Malone was a better scorer, Duncan a better defender, both outstanding rebounders. Even though Malone was an asshole as a person, he was extremely talented and one of the best ever, I just put Duncan slightly ahead.
But that's just my opinion.
Didn't say we are "other people" just said this is a SPURS fans boards and got back to your damn Hornets board if you want to debate the subject
I think you're showing a lack of bias by putting Duncan in "only" top 15. I would have guessed you had him top 5-7.Take away position and I'd put him top 15 of all time period. His legacy is set now, anything he adds from here on will only move him up.
But, like I said, I'm biased.
Duncan's in my top 5.
Didn't say we are "other people" just said this is a SPURS fans boards and got back to your damn Hornets board if you want to debate the subject
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