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    Spurs 2:19 spur219's Avatar
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    Massenburg was going up against one of the best centers in the league with Brad Miller and not to mention Chris Webber and he comes out with 16 and 8. Those are numbers Rasho would of never came close to especially against Webber and Miller. With this performance it shows that Tony wants it more. And yes it's only one game but you can tell that Massenburg has the passion to win and to be agressive and throw his body when he needs to. Massenburg should remain the starter. Also Marks had a decent game and with a couple of more games under his belt he should come up with some better numbers. Rasho should remain in IR but the sucker gets paid too much to stay there. Time to trade I saw things in Marks that I really liked.

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    This is dumb. This is a le contending team. Massenberg is 37. I'd rather have him off the bench when we need him than having to rely on someone his age as our starting center. Further, he is not a shot blocking presence who is going to deter teams from driving the lane, and he doesn't have the reputation to stay out of foul trouble when he does try to go and get shots (like tonight when he blocked Brad Miller clean).

    Further, people seem caught up in his great game tonight. It was against his old team, a team that told him he was too old for them to re-sign. You think he didn't want to kick their ass?

    Please people, let's have some perspective.

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    trade him.

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    This is preposterous.

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    screw perspective.

    obviously two 12th men are better than Rasho Nesterovic.

    Trade Nesterovic for another 12th man so we can be unbeatable.

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    It was against his old team, a team that told him he was too old for them to re-sign. You think he didn't want to kick their ass?
    Not only did they tell him that he was too old. They treated him like last season when he went off saying they didn't play any D. This was a sweet revenge game for Mass, but I wouldn't pencil him in as a starter for the season.

    Let's see how these next few weeks pan out. Rasho does what the Spurs need defensively, for the most part, so I think he'll get his starting job back unless something miraculous happens.

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    Love it. Welcome to the "Rasho haters" club 219.

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    Lets just hope he brings same effort in payback game for Kings on natonal tv TH (TNT).

    Crush the Queens again!

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    Sure don't pencil him as the starter because he won't be but come on this is Rasho's worst season probably ever as a Spur. I might of exaggerated a bit by saying that Tony should remain the starter because I know his age and he wont be able to handle it. But I did say it as an exaggeration on purpose just to show that Rasho while sometimes might be a good defensive prescence he just doesn't do it enough or everytime he is on the court. Tony is a better player than Rasho I have always thought that. I know that this was a revenge game for Tony but I am confident that he can pull more performances like this just given the chance.

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    I didn't mean to say Rasho's worst season as a Spur I mean to say in his professional career. He played decent last season and you would think that after a year under the Spurs system that he would be playing better because that is what I honestly thought. I never was happy with the Rasho signing and do think that he is overpaid for the limited things that he does on the court. Yes he might do some shot blocking here and there. But the guy is a 7footer and a starting center and only averaging about 5 boards a game.

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    to show that Rasho while sometimes might be a good defensive prescence he just doesn't do it enough or everytime he is on the court.
    Rasho is in the top 15 in the league in blocks, has been each of the last 2-3 years. This statement is just not right.

    Watch what happens the next few weeks with Rasho out - teams will be attacking the interior much, much more with no one there to get Duncan's back defensively.

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    I never was happy with the Rasho signing
    of course.

    They shouldve signed Olowakandi right Spur?


    [/QUOTE]5 boards a game.[QUOTE]

    he averages 7. But dont let that hide your hate.

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    Give the starting PF job to Malik and let Duncan play C. Then distrubute the big man minutes between Horry, Marks and Massenburg.

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    TPark did I ever say that they should of signed Olowakandi. No I don't think I ever said that did I? Okay just wanted to make myself clear.

    Aggie I give that to you that statement from me was not right. Yes Rasho is a good defensive force but sometimes he can do so much more and he does not take advantage of it.

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    Spur, you said signing him was a mistake.

    Olowakandi was the only other one available.

    Who would you have signed???

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    No not exactly. You already had Marks out there and Horry. Rose could of started for one year and the following year could of signed Erick Dampier who is a much better defender. Also they could of maybe tried to do a trade for Brad Miller instead of helping the Kings out by getting them. There were so many options you just can't look at that years free agents.

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    Has Duncan EVER expressed a desire to play center? Has Pop EVER expressed the idea that Duncan should play center because he would be better at that position?

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    wildbill you just mentioned another option that I didn't list. Duncan at center and signed a PF. But I don't think Duncan wants to play center I think he should though.

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    Mass was good, but he has to show that he's consistent..remember that the Kingz are not a very good defensive team, and he knew how they played, plus the hate.

    This should've been a good game for him, don't expect this to happen every day, unless Duncan helps him.

    And Duncan wouldn't be a good center, Rasho will continue to be a starter because he's 7'0 and he can play defense and create.

    and Malik will NEVER be a starter..

    or so I pray to God.

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    Duncan plays center all the time. He doesn't start listed as the center, but he's the center. He's the post player (center) in the offense. He is definitely at center when he's in the game with Malik, Horry, etc.

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    There you go Duncan plays center.

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    Duncan plays center all the time. He doesn't start listed as the center, but he's the center. He's the post player (center) in the offense. He is definitely at center when he's in the game with Malik, Horry, etc.

    Do you however think that would help?


    Centers usually aren't better scorers than Forwards....and Malik and Horry usually can't handle them, especially Malik.


    I think today's game was great, and Tim should continue to just be a Forward, or start as one.

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    Id inquire about PJ Brown from New Orleans, seeing as New Orleans is cleaning house.

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    TPark now there you go. I would of thought that PJ Brown would of been an excellent choice. He is a very good defensive force and can certainly clean up those boards. I would also inquire about PJ Brown. Although I do think the Hornets gave him a hefty contract.

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    Do you however think that would help?
    Do I think Tim starting at center and someone else starting at PF would help?

    No, I think the Spurs best starting lineup is the one they normally use -- Rasho, Tim, Bruce, Manu and Tony. The amount of depth that the Spurs have this season is amazing, but I think those guys are definitely the starters.

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