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Early reports are saying it appears to possibly have been a stroke.
I'm seeing reports on MSNBC that the Senator has been hospitalized for an unknown illness.
Regardless of what you may personally think of Ted Kennedy the man is an icon in the Senate and has been more influential in legislation than almost anybody in present times.
I wish him the best.
Early reports are saying it appears to possibly have been a stroke.
yikes
i don't like his politics, but you never wanna hear about something like this.
- Mars
And the very reason of why we need term limits. No one person should ever be allowed to garner that much power.
The man is a weasel and not fit for any role in life. Hopefully he
will have to retire to nice home where he can find some nice young
ladies to swim with. I have nothing nice to say for him and have no
concern for his welfare.
I'm sorry, I cannot muster any sympathy for the lowlife.
Reports coming in saying it was a seizure.
- Mars
"No one person should ever be allowed to garner that much power."
... did you object when Delay had that much power?
Compassionate conservatism....gotta love it.
When Bush wanted to get his "No Child Left Behind" who do you think he turned to? That is right. Senator Kennedy.
That is why I like Senator McCain and his unwillingness to go along with partisan hatred. He gave Sen. Kennedy the respect he's earned amongst members of the Senate and the House.
Who said I was a compassionate conservative? I am just
a conservative. And some people just deserve to die. And
he is one of them. I have no sympathy for him. If and when
he passes on it will be good riddance. I have compassion
for those that deserve compassion. Not those who take
advantage of young women and leave them to die a terrible,
horrible death and then run like a coward. And use their
status in life to not suffer any consequences.
I'll object when anyone makes a career of being a so-called "servant of the people" and then is there long enough to get the power to do whatever he/she wants.
Unlike you, I could give a whether they have a "D" or an "R" in front of their name. To me, they are all the same. Birds of a feather and all that , if you know what I mean.
And whoever put up the description of Kennedy, his killing that young woman, and then running like the dog he is, was right on. The man should have spend all these years in prison, not in the U.S. Senate.
Right on. Politics aside I wish no ill harm to the man and am disgusted by those who do. I hate his politics but damn.
If that's not a screwed up statement, I don't know what is!
How much compassion should a conservative have towards a sworn enemy?
How much compassion does that son-of-a-b**** have for the 1.2 million babies that are slaughtered every year in the U.S. via abortion? He's been fighting for that "right" since forever!
Knock off that compassionate conservative crap!
too bad kennedy's mom didn't abort him, huh. shes just a , right?
You know...I understand that everyone makes mistakes...
But acting like Ted Kennedy is some kind of hero is too much and since you guys have elected to post this as some kind of great loss to humanity I am going to give that a deserving response...
I've got a huge special piss I've been saving up for Ted Kennedy's grave...bout ing time is all I got to say. Hurry up Teddy...I can't wait much longer.
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Compassion is neither a conservative or liberal quality-------it's a human quality. Sad to see it is so lacking, huh?
http://www.ytedk.com/intro.htm
Code:Background: - Following his brother Bobby's death, "a general discouragement with Ted's off-hour antics" was being privately expressed within the Kennedy circle. ~ The Education of Edward Kennedy by Burton Hersh - Time reported that Ted had been drinking more heavily since his brother's death, and "he has been a different and deeply-troubled man". Those close to Kennedy saw signs of a recklessness at odds with his expanding presidential prospects. Accepting an assignment from Life to cover Ted Kennedy after his brother's assassination, writer Brock Brower concluded that the insecurities, fatalism and fast-living showed Ted was seeking to escape the inevitable candidacy for President. "Some thought his drinking had got beyond the strains it was supposed to relieve," he said. ~ Senatorial Privilege by Leo Damore - John Lindsay of Newsweek saw "an all too-familiar pattern emerging." Kennedy was slipping out of control toward some unavoidable crackup. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Senator Kennedy's Driver's License had Expired - Senator Kennedy's driver's license had expired on February 22, 1969 (nearly 5 months before the accident) and had not been renewed. - Although driving with an expired license was only a misdemeanor, it did provide the evidence of negligence needed to prove a manslaughter charge in the death of Mary Jo Kopechne. - The license problem was "fixed" by officials at the Registry of Motor Vehicles, under the direction of Registrar Richard McLaughlin, before the legal proceedings began.
Code:Ted Kennedy's Driving Record: - Ted Kennedy had a record of serious traffic violations. Their nature formed a pattern of deliberate and repeated negligent operation. Particularly bothersome was a June, 1958 conviction for "reckless driving." - On March 14, 1958, Deputy Sheriff Thomas Whitten had been on routine highway patrol outside Charlottesville, Virginia, when an Oldsmobile convertible ran a red light, sped off, then cut its tail lights to elude pursuit. A license check revealed the car belonged to Edward M. Kennedy, a 26-year-old law student attending the University of Virginia. Kennedy had previously been fined $15 for speeding in March 1957. - Whitten was on patrol at the same intersection a week later, he testified, "And here comes the same car. And to my surprise, he did exactly the same thing. He raced through the same red light, cut his lights when he got to the corner and made the right turn." Whitten gave chase. He found the car in a driveway, apparently unoccupied. Looking inside, he discovered the driver, Teddy Kennedy, stretched out on the front seat and hiding. Whitten issued a ticket for "reckless driving; racing with an officer to avoid arrest; and operating a motor vehicle without an operator's license (Mass. registration.)" - Kennedy's attorneys were able to win numerous postponements, but eventually he was convicted on all charges and paid a $35 fine. Court officials never filed the mandatory notice of the case in the public docket, however, and Kennedy's name had not appeared on any arrest blotter. Instead, a local reporter discovered the case when he spotted 5 warrants in Kennedy's name in a court cash drawer. - Three weeks after his trial, Ted Kennedy was caught speeding again, and still operating without a valid license. - In December 1959, Kennedy was stopped again for running a red light and fined $10 and costs. In Whitten's view, "That boy had a heavy foot and a mental block against the color red. He was a careless, reckless driver who didn't seem to have any regard for speed limits or traffic ordinances." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - The offenses in Virginia had occurred on Ted Kennedy's Massachusetts driver's license, but mysteriously neither the Registry of Motor Vehicles nor the office of probation in Cambridge had any record of the out-of-state convictions. Had it been revealed at the inquest, the Senator's history of negligence and reckless driving would have been further evidence to support a charge of manslaughter in the Chappaquid accident. ~ Senatorial Privilege by Leo Damore
Code:Manslaughter in Massachusetts : "Any person who wantonly or in a reckless or grossly negligent manner did that which resulted in the death of a human being was guilty of manslaughter, although he did not contemplate such a result." In other words, negligence in exposing another to injury by doing an act, supplied all the intention the law required to make a defendant responsible for the consequences. - "It's automatic in Massachusetts when a person is killed in an accident for the prosecutor to bring an action for criminal manslaughter." ~ Joseph Gargan - Less than a week after the accident at Chappaquid , the Oregonian (Portland, Oregon ~ 7-24-69 ) reported an accident in Salem, Oregon, in which a car crashed through the chain on a ferry while crossing the Willamette River. A passenger riding in the car had drowned, but the driver escaped from the car and swam to shore. The driver was charged with negligent homicide.
It sure is...
The following is the written statement given by Ted Kennedy to Police Chief Dominick Arena on the morning of July19,1969. Throughout the legal proceedings, the Senator stuck to this version of events despite contradictory evidence and witness testimony. Perhaps as important as the inaccuracies within the statement is the fact that so many important details are con uously absent.
"On July 18, 1969, at approximately 11:15 PM in Chappaquid , Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts, I was driving my car on Main Street on my way to get the ferry back to Edgartown. I was unfamiliar with the road and turned right onto Dike Road, instead of bearing hard left on Main Street. After proceeding for approximately one-half mile on Dike Road I descended a hill and came upon a narrow bridge. The car went off the side of the bridge.There was one passenger with me, one Miss Mary ________( There was a blank space here because Kennedy was not sure of the spelling of the dead girl's last name, and instead offered a rough phonetic approximation ), a former secretary of my brother Sen. Robert Kennedy. The car turned over and sank into the water and landed with the roof resting on the bottom. I attempted to open the door and the window of the car but have no recollection of how I got out of the car.I came to the surface and then repeatedly dove down to the car in an attempt to see if the passenger was still in the car. I was unsuccessful in the attempt. I was exhausted and in a state of shock. I recall walking back to where my friends were eating. There was a car parked in front of the cottage and I climbed into the back seat. I then asked for someone to bring me back to Edgartown. I remember walking around for a period of time and then going back to my hotel room. When I fully realized what had happened this morning, I immediately contacted the police."
When the car was recovered, all the doors were locked and three of the windows were either open or smashed in.
Kennedy said that he dived down several times attempting to free her and, after exhausting himself, rested for 20 minutes, then walked back to the Lawrence Cottage where the party had been held. At the Lawrence Cottage, Kennedy summoned his cousin, Joe Gargan, and another friend, Paul Markham, to return to the scene of the accident. Kennedy sat in the back of a white Plymouth Valiant rental car that Kopechne had used that day. Though there was a working telephone at this location, the group waited 10 hours before they contacted the police. Kennedy then returned to the submerged car with Gargan and Markham who then resumed trying to reach her. The group claimed that the tidal current prevented them from reaching her for fear of being swept out to sea. However tidal records indicated that the tide was running in the opposite direction at the time of the supposed attempted rescue.
Dike Bridge ~ Edgartown Police Chief Dominick Arena sits on Kennedy's submerged car in the location it landed following the accident. Arena is unaware that the body of Mary Jo Kopechne is in the back seat.
- Rub rail on the right side of the bridge describes the path the car took before plunging into Poucha Pond.
- Satisfied that he had made a thorough observation of the accident scene, Farrar pulled the body of Mary Jo Kopechne out through the open window. The maneuver was complicated by the victim's hunched posture and outstretched arms made inflexible by rigor mortis.
-As he removed the body from the Senator's car, Farrar observed that it was "about one-quarter positively buoyant. There was still a little air left in her."
- Farrar tied the safety line around the victim, and brought her to the surface. The difficult recovery had taken him 10 minutes. In all, it took John Farrar 30 minutes from the time he got the call until he recovered the body from the accident car.
- Farrar repeatedly expressed the opinion that Mary Jo Kopechne had lived for some time underwater by breathing a bubble of trapped air, and that she could have been saved if rescue personnel had been promptly called to the scene. He had equipment to administer air to a trapped person directly or to augment an air pocket inside a submerged automobile.
- "There was a great possibility that we could have saved Mary Jo's life," Farrar said. "There would have been an airlock in the car - there always is in such submersions - that would have kept her alive. If we had been called, I would have reached the scene in 45 minutes. I say 45 minutes because it was dark. ( The daylight recovery had taken 30 minutes ). The lack of light might have caused a delay of 15 minutes."
- On August 13, based on a tip from a telephone company employee, The Manchester Union Leader reported that Senator Kennedy had charged 17 long distance telephone calls to his credit card during the hours he claimed to be "in shock" after the accident.
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Gargan said "This thing is worse now than it was before. We've got to do something. We're reporting the accident right now!"
- Kennedy said "I'm going to say that Mary Jo was driving."
- "There's no way you can say that!" Gargan said. "You can be placed at the scene. Jesus! We've got to report this thing. Let's go."
- Kennedy was reluctant to do so, Markham observed. "He was still stuck on the idea of having Mary Jo driving the car."
Before making a final decision to report the accident, Kennedy first wanted to talk with David Burke, his Administrative Assistant. The Senator asked where there was a phone he could use that would allow him to speak without his conversation being overheard.
- Gargan knew from years of Regatta weekends that there would be two or three people lined up to use all the public phones in Edgartown. He suggested the telephone at the ferry house on the Chappaquid landing. Gargan stressed that time was of the essence, "I was very anxious for the Senator to get to a phone and do the things I thought he should do; then, report the accident
All hail the fallen Liberal King
Look, I never said I liked the guy, I despise him, but I don't wish death on him. The best thing that could come out of this in my mind is him resigning and Romney putting in a conservative.
- Mars
well, that's thorough, and no doubt this family is consumed with tragedy, good and bad.
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