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As much as I like Malik Rose, you would have to retire a lot of numbers before you could seriously consider him, IMO.
This thought popped in my head the other day.
For as much as people here love to pick on Rose, we have to give him some credit.
He appears to not be forcing it thatmuch this year. He's making strides to getting back to doing what got him that arguably rich contract for a bench 'tweener.
So here it is...
Tell me why Rose's number should or should not be in consideration for retirement by the Spurs organization.
I'll get us rolling:
Yes -
Current longest tenured Spur
Two rings (only championships for the franchise)
Sixth man during the team's winningest era
No -
Not a star
Not good enough numbers
Hasn't been a Spur long enough to warrant it based on sheer longevity
What do you think?
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As much as I like Malik Rose, you would have to retire a lot of numbers before you could seriously consider him, IMO.
Uh. No. You have to draw the line somewhere.
They can put it up there right next to #42.
If he retires a spur with more rings than 2 then maybe.
I like Malik, hes one of the best guys in the NBA, a guy I would hope my kids would grow up to be like.
But his number is not worth consideration.
Neither is Avery Johnson's.
He would have to perform some playoff heroics before his time in SA is over.
Bold replies, especially from T Park.
I think Avery's number is borderline. Ifhe turns out to be a successful coach, I bet the Spurs retire his number (even though his coaching should have nothing to do with it).
I don't know guys... Roase has been around for a long-@ss time, still contributes and has 2 rings, going on 3.
I'm pretty sure Rose has set some kind of NBA record for consecutive years with the same team in a back up role.
He's played @500 games with the Spurs.
The only argument you can make for his jersey retirement is that he's been a big part of the team and the city.
Basically the AJ argument...If Malik stays here two more years he will surpass AJ in games played with the Spurs...he will also have been a much larger part of the community since AJ never actually lived in SA.
If AJ's jersey is going to be retired, then why not Malik?
Obviously we have no standards for our retired jerseys and since Malik has lasted about as long, and we've won more tiles with Malik...and Malik hasn't talked about the team or belittled it's players...
I say why not? If AJ's number is good enough to be retired then so is Malik's.
Last edited by whottt; 01-24-2005 at 09:20 PM.
AJ lived in San Antonio and still has a house here.
Get your facts straight.
As far as Rose getting his jersey retired. Probably not but if he plays out his whole contract, that would be more than a decade in San Antonio. That alone will get some attention.
Dunno, sure there have been the good years but do you really want to retire the number of a guy who's lost his spot in the rotation to every old fart we've signed the past three seasons?
Sugarland and Stafford Texas are in San Antonio? Everyone knows where he "lives".
I guess Maurice Cheeks lived in San Antonio too.
What ever gets AJ jersey retired, right?
Whottt -- he has another home here. He also has invested in a lot of community projects in San Antonio and is still doing so.
Why not? We are going to retire the jersey of a guy who couldn't even hold down the job as the third string PG longer than two years, for any team that didn't have David Robinson on it.
Malik has held on for 8 years with one team...I don't think AJ ever did that.
No.
I'm the one who said there is no standard.
The only real standard is "folks seem to like the idea."
He has as good a chance as any.But he did here, there's the rub.We are going to retire the jersey of a guy who couldn't even hold down the job as the third string PG longer than two years, for any team that didn't have David Robinson on it.
Brent Barry has lived in SA less than year and has already been named some kind of charity dude for something or other of higher profile than anything I can remember AJ being associated with...
Look, it doesn't matter what I think...I can see the writing on the wall...AJ's jersey is going to be retired if Pop has any say in it...I don't agree with it but I don't have any control over it.
I'm just saying...Malik is more of a San Antonian than AJ ever was. It's the truth. AJ lived in Sugarland...that's how Elie ended up coming to this team...
So anyway, if AJ is going to get his jersey retired and Malik makes it that long I don't see how anyone can argue against his jersey being retired as well for much of the same reasons...
Both are similar types of players in that their claim to fame was their scrappiness...but I never saw AJ getting green around the gills when he wasn't playing for SA...
Malik gets despondent every time the team talks about trading him...he's much more of a San Antonian than AJ.
AJ got Elie to SA and Spurs win 1st championship.
Just shut the up already and let your pit bull lick whipped cream off your nutsack.
I agree with this part. I think it would be a nightmare for Malik (and his entire family that he uprooted and brought here from Philly) if he ever got traded.Malik gets despondent every time the team talks about trading him...he's much more of a San Antonian than AJ.
But as ChumpDumper said, there's not a standard for retiring jerseys. If the organization thinks you are a good guy and you spent enough time here, it looks like you have a shot.
Folks seemed to like the idea of Nazism too...doesn't make it a good idea.
Some folks like the idea of flying planes into the World Trade Center...
Well fine then but don't try and make a point against us retiring the jersey of a guy who couldn't hold his spot down to other players, when AJ was the same thing...even here sometimes...But he did here, there's the rub.
That's my whole point...I don't see how anyone can really argue against Malik once AJ's jersey gets retired. So we might as well retire his too. It'd also make AJ's jersey being retired easier for me to handle.
People who own pit bulls are likely to live in trailer parks and wear flannel but who's counting?
Leave it to whottt to equate the retiring the number of a guy who plays basketball to supporting Hitler and Bin Laden.Folks seemed to like the idea of Nazism too...doesn't make it a good idea.
Some folks like the idea of flying planes into the World Trade Center...Three years in a row? I most certainly will and you'll take it, brownshirt.Well fine then but don't try and making a point about us retiring the jersey of a guy who couldn't hold his spot down to other players, when AJ was the same thing...even here sometimes.
The point is you make it up as you go along. Big deal.
I rescued a starved, beaten and injured Pit Bull , most likely from someone who does live in a trailer park and wears a flannel, I didn't go out seeking one...don't confuse it. Asshole.
Where did I say those things are equal? At least the Germans regret Hitler.
Speakad'english!Three years in a row? I most certainly will and you'll take it, brownshirt.
Then STFU about Malik getting beat out by guys.The point is you make it up as you go along. Big deal.
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