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    I refuse to act with common decency spurscenter's Avatar
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    Buck Harvey: Canceled out - Spurs get what they deserve

    San Antonio Express-News

    One lucky shot deserves another, Shaquille O'Neal once famously said.

    That was the last time the Lakers were in San Antonio for the playoffs. Then Tim Duncan threw in a leaning jumper for the lead — and Derek Fisher and 0.4 followed.

    This time — with Fisher again involved — one bad call deserved another.

    This time the refs didn't see that a Fisher jumper had grazed the rim, not resetting the shot clock. This time the refs chose to look the other way when Fisher leaped and landed on Brent Barry.

    This time the Lakers deserved what they got.

    They clearly outplayed the Spurs.

    The ending never should have had any drama, not after the Lakers were smarter and more active for 47 minutes. They never trailed while pounding the Spurs on the boards.

    Duncan's 29 points and 17 rebounds didn't reflect an uneven performance as Pau Gasol defended him well. And the other Lakers looked younger and livelier, led by Kobe Bryant and his 28 points.

    Those consumed with Joey Crawford and this officiating crew should look at another number. Bryant shot 29 times and never went to the free-throw line.

    But Gasol did go to the line with about 50 seconds left. Up by seven, these were to be the final blows to the defending champions.

    What followed will make the Spurs angrier. They had wanted to test the Lakers' poise, to get them in these late-game situations, and Gasol showed what was possible had the Spurs pressured earlier. He missed both.

    Then something crazier happened. Manu Ginobili made an appearance. Still, his 3-pointer appeared too late to make a difference. The Lakers were still in position to manage the clock, right?

    But Bryant took off, looking more like a rookie than 12-year vet. He burned only nine seconds off the clock before opting for a tough runner.

    “He thought he had a direct line to the basket,” Phil Jackson said afterward. “And that put us in jeopardy. As a consequence, we almost lost the game because of it.”

    When Tony Parker went the other way, pulling the Spurs within two points with 28 seconds left, the Spurs had a chance to undo 2004. The Lakers had seemingly blown their lead in 0.4 seconds.

    Then Fisher shot, not far from the same place four years ago, and what followed restated why the Spurs ultimately lost.

    Rebounding. The Spurs had allowed the Lakers 11 offensive rebounds in the first half for a startling 20 second-chance points.

    “We did a better job in the second half,” Gregg Popovich said. “Then down the stretch it bit us again.”

    The bite should have been lethal. When Fisher missed the jumper, Robert Horry tangled with Gasol and couldn't get the rebound.

    But the Lakers weren't given a fresh 24 seconds, when replays indicated Fisher's shot had barely hit the rim. That forced Bryant to squeeze off a quick shot.

    With a last chance, Barry turned to pivot at the 3-point line, and Fisher landed on Barry's back and shoulders. Watching without comment was Crawford.

    If Barry had sold it, he would have forced Crawford to make the call. If Barry had done a Ginobili, flailing his arms, coming up through Fisher, then Barry would have shot three free throws.

    A career 82 percent shooter, he likely would have made them. Having already scored a season-high 23 points, he would have become Sean Elliott in 1999, Steve Kerr in 2003 and Horry in 2005. The unexpected hero of a postseason.

    But Barry says he didn't see Fisher, and he released his desperation shot only after Fisher had fallen to the side.

    No one blamed Barry. As Popovich said, “We wouldn't have had a chance to win if it wasn't for Brent tonight.”

    Popovich and Barry didn't blame Crawford, either. Both said it was the proper no-call.

    They are wrong. That kind of physical contact clearly changed Barry's path. Here's a guess: Bryant gets the call in Staples.

    But maybe the Spurs felt they were in no position to complain. They had gotten what they deserved, after all.

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    Believe. zocool16's Avatar
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    ing Harvey is right....
    but league is rigged regardless......lol

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    If you all actually think the league is actually rigged, I don't get why you watch. Turn your TVs off and move on.

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    If you all actually think the league is actually rigged, I don't get why you watch. Turn your TVs off and move on.
    aw i was kidding...but living in L.A. is tough Kori. So since everyone down here is coming at me with their 'haha lakers this lakers that" I don't bother explaining anything...I just say 'league is rigged'...I don't really believe it but it's a escape from these bas s

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    SA got all the calls and still lost.

    Period.

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    Finally a thread where no one whines..

    Yeah article's basically correct. I don't know about Barry selling the foul, though.

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    i said they got what they deserved way back in the season when........you let go of a proven back up point guard (beno) and replace him with mighty no show mouse,(which may i add we wasted 3-5 games teaching him the ropes, and loss homecourt advantage) and.....when some bone head thought bringing 6'9 old no good for nothing but shining the pine kurt thomas over the only proven 7'0 footer backup center fransico elson......when the spurs made those 2 stupid moves....they basically sealed our not repeating............kurt helped against the suns cos he played there 2 yrs there...lettin go of beno and replacing with migthy mouse reminded me of the days when bob bass ran the show............and we all now what bass got us......david robinson and thats it, he was fired shortly after..........maybe next yr.......go spurs go

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    SA got all the calls and still lost.

    Period.
    All calls?


    You are not good at math

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    I refuse to act with common decency spurscenter's Avatar
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    we need a SJAX

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    Lakers wanted game 4 more and they outplayed the Spurs in almost every area.

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    i said they got what they deserved way back in the season when........you let go of a proven back up point guard (beno) and replace him with mighty no show mouse,(which may i add we wasted 3-5 games teaching him the ropes, and loss homecourt advantage) and.....when some bone head thought bringing 6'9 old no good for nothing but shining the pine kurt thomas over the only proven 7'0 footer backup center fransico elson......when the spurs made those 2 stupid moves....they basically sealed our not repeating............kurt helped against the suns cos he played there 2 yrs there...lettin go of beno and replacing with migthy mouse reminded me of the days when bob bass ran the show............and we all now what bass got us......david robinson and thats it, he was fired shortly after..........maybe next yr.......go spurs go
    beno never proved himself HERE he started playing well when he started STARTING with the FREAKIN SACREMENTO KINGS

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    Seriously.

    If not sombody who's going to nut up in a game like this. Barry did, but that doesn't have the same effect as a SJax character.

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    I love how most commentators about flopping all the time, and now a bunch are saying that Barry should have "sold" the contact....

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    I love how most commentators about flopping all the time, and now a bunch are saying that Barry should have "sold" the contact....
    I was thinking the same thing last night when reggie was say that. You cant complain about all the floping and then say that barry should of sold the foul.

    I mean I think he should of sold it more, but I also don't complain about flopping its a part of the game.

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    If you all actually think the league is actually rigged, I don't get why you watch. Turn your TVs off and move on.


    I don't think it's rigged, but I do believe that the Jordan rules still apply today. If that had been anyone else, Kobe, DWade, heck even Ginobili that call would have been made. And that's what leads me to anger, that type of blatant inconsistency. Fans and Media are always calling out players for "acting" and "flopping" and "exagerating" contact, but now when a guy didn't exagerate a contact that was pretty obvious, it's his fault he's a role player and not going to get that call?

    The inconsistencies in NBA officiating is what gets to me. They say refs don't call contact in the closing minutes because they don't want to decide the game, when they did tonight, there were missed calls both ways.

    The thing I don't get is why the league never, ever, ever even comes out and admits to such bad calls in the closing seconds of games. What about that push off Gasol got away with in Game 5 against the Jazz? Why can't we ever listen to the refs justification and viewpoint of why that play wasn't called?

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    ..maybe if the ball doesn't graze the rim Horry is able to rebound it and call timeout with about 5 seconds left giving the Spurs time to set up a play....this talk that the Lakers would have rebounded Fisher's desperate shot is bull...

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    Oh and for the record, Spurs didn't deserve to win that game. I will agree to that. But blatant mess ups by the refs to decide games yet again plays a big factor into why people "think the NBA is rigged."

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    Oh and for the record, Spurs didn't deserve to win that game. I will agree to that. But blatant mess ups by the refs to decide games yet again plays a big factor into why people "think the NBA is rigged."
    The stupidest thing about that blatant foul and the whole "well he shoulda sold the foul " is the obvious precedent, that will never be set.
    So whenever there's a big playoff game with less than three seconds left is the coach telling them about defensive strategies, "Hey guys, all you have to do to deny the three for the win of the opposing team, is just foul them, they won't call it! "
    IF they're never gonna call a foul in big playoff games at the last second, then the opposing team should drape themselves all over the shooter jumping and bumping into them every time.

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    I don't think it's rigged, but I do believe that the Jordan rules still apply today. If that had been anyone else, Kobe, DWade, heck even Ginobili that call would have been made. And that's what leads me to anger, that type of blatant inconsistency. Fans and Media are always calling out players for "acting" and "flopping" and "exagerating" contact, but now when a guy didn't exagerate a contact that was pretty obvious, it's his fault he's a role player and not going to get that call?

    The inconsistencies in NBA officiating is what gets to me. They say refs don't call contact in the closing minutes because they don't want to decide the game, when they did tonight, there were missed calls both ways.

    The thing I don't get is why the league never, ever, ever even comes out and admits to such bad calls in the closing seconds of games. What about that push off Gasol got away with in Game 5 against the Jazz? Why can't we ever listen to the refs justification and viewpoint of why that play wasn't called?
    u cant say it better than that......

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    If Barry had sold it, he would have forced Crawford to make the call. If Barry had done a Ginobili, flailing his arms, coming up through Fisher, then Barry would have shot three free throws.
    Exactly what I thought after the whistle didn't blow. Brent needs to take some lessons from Manu, in case this scenario comes up again.

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    I love how most commentators about flopping all the time, and now a bunch are saying that Barry should have "sold" the contact....
    The thing is, it was so blatant a foul, he shouldn't have had to "sell" it. If the ref takes the blinders off for one second, Barry is at the FT line.

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    This time the Lakers deserved what they got.

    They clearly outplayed the Spurs.

    The lakers right from the get-go were clearly the more aggressive team . They deserved the win for competing 100 percent.

    What really hurts about this loss was the game was there for the taking numerous times, the Spurs just had nothing left in the tank. Fatigue and the oldness of their role players really stood out once again.

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    Buck Harvey is full of .

    He admits it's a foul, but his argument is somehow the Spurs didn't "deserve" to win the game.

    Kinda like how the Lakers didn't "deserve" to win Game 1? With the non-call on Kobe pushing off?

    Then there's this crap:

    "Those consumed with Joey Crawford and this officiating crew should look at another number. Bryant shot 29 times and never went to the free-throw line."

    Well, no sherlock. That was by design.

    Goddamn, it's a ing scam when even your hometown press is against the Spurs.

    And yeah, Kori, I won't be watching any more basketball this year.

    Lost looks good on Thursday night.

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    In a series, there's going to be missed calls both ways throughout the course of the game. Problem is, refs shouldn't be looking for "makeup calls" to right those mistakes.

    And they shouldn't be setting a bad precedent. So what happens now everytime there's a close game at the end? Defender's can expect to jump all over the shooter and get away with it? Or do shooters have to continually exagerate contact to get calls and just deal with being called "floppers and actors?"

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    Good column.

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