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    The Spurs have reportedly offered Malik Rose to Toronto in exchange for Donyell Marshall.

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    source

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    It was in the Toronto Star, but you have to register.

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    to get the info, you must have been registered....post the link.

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    that would be hard to ran a business when in canada

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    Bye Malik.. your contract was too fat and your game wasnt.

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    http://www.prosportsdaily.com/nba/spurs/rumors.html

    It's only a small clip of the article.

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    I wouldn´t bet money on it. I don´t think Malik is going anywhere.

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    http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...id=970599119419

    Raptors' trade list almost half-dozen
    Obvious who doesn't fit into team's future Bab has string of clubs to talk to before Feb. 24

    DOUG SMITH
    SPORTS REPORTER

    It's clear that Donyell Marshall, Lamond Murray, Aaron Williams and perhaps Eric Williams and even Milt Palacio are not in the long-term Raptor plans centred on turning the team into something more than mere playoff participants.

    None are young enough, or under contract for long enough, or good enough, or interested enough in sticking around for the years that the process will take, so general manager Rob Bab has just 24 days now to start moving them and give coach Sam Mitc something better to work with.

    And some of those moveable parts continue to attract great interest around the NBA, even from opposing players during games.

    Marshall would unquestionably welcome a deal, although he has never publicly expressed a desire to be moved. But seeing his minutes yo-yo from one game to the next — a difficult role to accept for someone who thrives on consistent playing time — can be doing nothing to make him consider Toronto a long-term proposition.

    The San Antonio Spurs have been added to the list of suitors for Marshall, offering backup big man Malik Rose in return. However, Rose has an untenable contract — three years and almost $20 million (all figures U.S.) — and lacks the athleticism Mitc wants.

    The Heat remain strong suitors, strong enough that sources say players on the Miami team are mystified that Bab has refused all entreaties for Marshall so far and let the veteran Raptor know that during a game in Toronto last week.

    But the Heat offers, which include journeyman backup centre Michael Doleac, has done nothing to catch Bab 's attention.

    And if there's one trait the general manager has displayed more than any other since his arrival, it's patience.

    He is likely to weigh any offer until much closer to the Feb.24 trade deadline before acting.

    Murray, with one season remaining on his contract, will be in the same position a year from now that Marshall is in today, and there's no question he'll leave as a free agent as soon as he can.

    He also doesn't have the speed, or enthusiasm, that Mitc wants and it's become apparent that young Matt Bonner is moving ahead of both Marshall and Murray in the rotation.

    "Matt's been great for us," Mitc said recently.

    "He's been a diamond in the rough."

    Aaron Williams, who can opt out of his contract this summer, has become little more than a bit player, while Eric Williams has been a disappointment recently.

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    The San Antonio Spurs have been added to the list of suitors for Marshall, offering backup big man Malik Rose in return. However, Rose has an untenable contract — three years and almost $20 million (all figures U.S.) — and lacks the athleticism Mitc wants.
    there it is, right there. Malik is staying put.

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    But seeing his minutes yo-yo from one game to the next — a difficult role to accept for someone who thrives on consistent playing time — can be doing nothing to make him consider Toronto a long-term proposition

    looks like he needs steady minutes to be effective...

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    We do not need to trade Rose....he is our lucky charm.

    We went 24 yrs w/o a championship, then when we got Rose, we won 2 in 5 yrs.

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    Donyell could provide a long athletic three who can score.

    If the Spurs are not going to use Rose it could be a solid acquisition for this team.

    I would like Rose to sort of creep in with his old 2002-03 play off the bench. Buts its tough with Robert Horry playing well rounded basketball off the bench. Horry gives the intangibles that Rose does not on a reasonably consistent basis. But Malik offers more energy on the boards.

    My head tells me Donyell would be a nice pick up. Very nice in theory, but not sure how he would fit in, and how it would affect a guy like Devin Brown (since he is the 4th swingman/OG).

    Would Pop use Donyell primarily at the 3, and at the 4 at times with Duncan if he were a Spur?

    Obviously the trade is not likely to happen, just speculating how Pop might use the guy if he were to come aboard.

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    We went 24 yrs w/o a championship, then when we got Rose, we won 2 in 5 yrs.
    I prefer the "Lucky Tim" theory.

    Incidentally, if this trade were to happen, just hand SA the O'Brien. The only hole that SA really has is that they have no "Big" SF. Marshall can guard the Dirks, KGs, and other big perimeter players either on the perimeter or in the post. He shoots the trey with ease, and rebounds hugely for a SF.

    Oh, and Malik Rose is small for a PF, but he's athletic as . He can run the floor and jump out of the gym for someone who's realisticly 6'4", maybe 6'5".

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    Actually Lik has about 4 years and $26.5 million left on his contract after this season.

    Lik gives you a forward who can go big and small. He's also a proven playoff performer, unlike some other regular season warriors. It seems like some Spurs fans have forgotten what kind of a hoss Lik has been in the postseason, including the two championship runs. If I need a guy to come in and provide a presence up front I think Lik, not Donyell Marshall. I for one do not find it desirable to see the team drop playoff performers just because they are too cheap to afford the average salary for 4 more seasons.

    But fans are fans. They'll fall in love with the Danny Ferrys and Steve Kerrs of the league and dump on everyone else.

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    That would be a great trade for us, I hope Toronto is dumb enough to bite.

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    Why in the world would Toronto make this trade? No way.

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    The Spurs already have a lanky forward who can fake being a bigman at times with an outside touch.

    This trade would pretty much blow. The only reason the Spurs would do it is because they can get the remaining 4 years of Malik's deal off their cap. Considering that the Spurs are going to be capped out for some time now thanks to TD, TP, Manu, and Rasho there really isn't a cap reason to move Malik. But there is the cheapness factor, and someone's gotta pay for that.

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    Again, why does it blow? Because you love Rose? Do you know anything about basketball outside San Antonio? Donyell would be a great pickup for this team.

    We don't have a lanky forward with an outside touch. I guess Linton *could* be that guy, but we haven't even seen him on a court this year, so that remains to be seen.

    It has nothing to do with being cheap, it has to do with moving guys who are not performing relative to their contract, especially when there is someone in the pipe (Scola) who would be able to do the same for cheaper.

    This is part of the problem with Spurs fans, they grow so enamored with our vaunted role players, they can't see outside the silver and black box.

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    Well Donyell is a better scorer right now then Horry. If Donyell can guard 3s reasonably, then he could be an asset for this team. But we will see. I am interested to see if Malik can give the team what he did in 0203 in a few less minutes. He still can be an asset as a rebounder, and on nights when the team needs energy off the bench. Horry gives energy, but more of balanced/intangible type.

    I wonder what Pop will do with Rose as the season progresses.

    *Note, Donyell did very solid in the Utah Jazz system that was very good offensively. He also gave them solid rebounding and efficient scoring/shooting. I think he still has good ability left in him. He can provide rebounding and dependable shooting and scoring.

    But who knows? I doubt this trade goes through.

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    Maybe the le should read "Possible Tirade Nearing???

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    Again, why does it blow? Because you love Rose? Do you know anything about basketball outside San Antonio? Donyell would be a great pickup for this team.
    Uh I know a bit more than you. You've yet to address any of my arguments. Also, am not in San Antonio and have forgotten more basketball than your young ass believes he knows.

    We don't have a lanky forward with an outside touch. I guess Linton *could* be that guy, but we haven't even seen him on a court this year, so that remains to be seen.
    Horry, Robert.


    It has nothing to do with being cheap, it has to do with moving guys who are not performing relative to their contract, especially when there is someone in the pipe (Scola) who would be able to do the same for cheaper.
    Ha.

    This is part of the problem with Spurs fans, they grow so enamored with our vaunted role players, they can't see outside the silver and black box.
    Look, you are consistently one of the worst posters in this forum when it comes to analyzing the game. I find myself often laughing at your gibberish. "Marks > Rose" about sums up what you know about the game.

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    You've yet to address any of my arguments.
    What is that? What is it that Malik brings to this team that Donyell couldn't?

    Horry, Robert.
    Again, Horry can't guard the athletic threes, like Rashard, Marion, etc.

    I'm glad you laugh out loud at my "gibberish", so does Spursgal, doesn't mean she knows about basketball.

    As for Marks > Rose, obviously I'm not the only one that thinks so, because our coaching staff isn't playing Rose for one, and for another I don't see the Spurs team (especially Duncan) ing about Rose not playing in favor of Marks.

    Face it - Rose has been a zero this year. Marks isn't exactly setting the world on fire, but he's not screwing up and isn't trying to play above his head, so he's already got more going for him than Rose.

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    $26.5 million
    which is about $29.9 million CAD

    can't see Toronto doing that.

    Uh I know a bit more than you.
    By what basis are you measuring this?

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    What is that? What is it that Malik brings to this team that Donyell couldn't?
    Let's start with the physical presence and yes, playoff performance. Malik Rose has definitely been the most consistent playoff performer outside of Tim Duncan during his career in San Antonio. I want players who will show up when it is time to win. You want ing compe ors. Also, Malik is much more physical in the paint than Marshall could ever hope to be.

    Again, Horry can't guard the athletic threes, like Rashard, Marion, etc.
    And Donyell Marshall can? Get a grip.


    I'm glad you laugh out loud at my "gibberish", so does Spursgal, doesn't mean she knows about basketball.
    More gibberish. Stick with Spursgal, she's more your speed.

    As for Marks > Rose, obviously I'm not the only one that thinks so, because our coaching staff isn't playing Rose for one, and for another I don't see the Spurs team (especially Duncan) ing about Rose not playing in favor of Marks.
    Malik's on the trading block numbnuts.


    Face it - Rose has been a zero this year. Marks isn't exactly setting the world on fire, but he's not screwing up and isn't trying to play above his head, so he's already got more going for him than Rose.
    Oh yes, if Malik isn't perfect then he's ing up. So let's get a bigman in here whose only redeeming quality is that he can play 23 feet away from the basket.

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