Gustav

[T Park]

If you're trying to convince me not to link, that actually didn't help.

:lmao

[Ginofan]

JB, it's kind of funny....they've had like three shout outs from texas. Pflugerville, Austin and Dallas.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Fucking weak. I was just about to save the link and they decide to shut down.

Pussies.

[MannyIsGod]

we might not have a NOLA tommarow night at this time....

I think the northside of the city will be ok. Thats mainly what got flooded last time. They'll have wind damage all through the city without a doubt, but the surge hitting the places on the West Bank is what is going to really do a number.

I don't know though, maybe the north part of the city gets fucked too. It sucks either way.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I just called it "Three Guys and a Hurricam" from Houma, La. (Graphic Language).

But these weak fools made me kill the save.

[GuerillaBlack]

Gay.

I wanted to see it.

[Ginofan]

They are turning it off now, time to "batten down the hatches" or so they say.

[baseline bum]

What a bunch of bitches.

[T Park]

grow a pair and jump in a raft and keep it goin

[RashoFan]

Fucking weak. I was just about to save the link and they decide to shut down.

Pussies.

Are you forcertain they are in Houma?? someone in the blog said they slipped up and said that they are somewhere else...

[GuerillaBlack]

Why don't they just GTFO while they still have time? The roads are clear I'm sure. They'll make it.

[Ginofan]

Are you forcertain they are in Houma?? someone in the blog said they slipped up and said that they are somewhere else...

The area code for the phone numbers they posted matches up with southeast LA

[RashoFan]

I saw that people are now posting..." for a good time..." "anyone wannahave sex? call..."
:lol

[Heath Ledger]

what site are you guys talking about?

[RashoFan]

Here is an address:"Heres their address: 273 Monarch Dr, Houma, LA 70364-2676"
White pages reverse lookup time....I am afraid to see what pops up.:lol

[T Park]

omg why would you post your damn address?

[T Park]

I've never even heard of houma.....

[Ginofan]

unofficially 3 people have died during evac.

[RashoFan]

Here is an address:"Heres their address: 273 Monarch Dr, Houma, LA 70364-2676"
White pages reverse lookup time....I am afraid to see what pops up.:lol

Chateau Creole Apartments....
:lmao

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

unofficially 3 people have died during evac.

IIRC, it was some critical care evacuees.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Chateau Creole Apartments....
:lmao

Classy.

[RashoFan]

shit....6 people live in 1 apt....damn.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

shit....6 people live in 1 apt....damn.

They didn't strike me as illegals.

[Ginofan]

what does IIRC mean? I'm super behind on my internet lingo...

[RashoFan]

If I Recall Correctly

[RashoFan]

i got a craving for :corn:

[Ginofan]

Gracias! BTW, Texas has taken most of the evacuees so far.

[T Park]

if I recall correctly Mandy

[MannyIsGod]

http://icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/images/at200807_surge.gif

Keep in mind that most of this area is not even 10ft above sea level and with those marshes gone this surge can penetrate a really long distance inland.

[RashoFan]

Gracias! BTW, Texas has taken most of the evacuees so far.

De nada senorita...

[T Park]

Gracias! BTW, Texas has taken most of the evacuees so far.

I think Texas did last time as well

[Buddy Holly]

I was at a McDonald's returning a red box dvd, and a guy came up asking for money to eat claiming to be from LA having been chase out because of the storm.

I didn't have anything on me as I was just returning a dvd but I was skeptical of his story.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I was at a McDonald's returning a red box dvd, and a guy came up asking for money to eat claiming to be from LA having been chase out because of the storm.

I didn't have anything on me as I was just returning a dvd but I was skeptical of his story.

I'm doubting that, too... every damn Transguide sign yesterday and today had directions to Port SA and there weren't that many people so far tonight.

[RashoFan]

That is pretty sad if someone is claiming they are from LA and they are not just to get some money...

[GuerillaBlack]

I was at a McDonald's returning a red box dvd, and a guy came up asking for money to eat claiming to be from LA having been chase out because of the storm.

I didn't have anything on me as I was just returning a dvd but I was skeptical of his story.

k.

[GuerillaBlack]

That is pretty sad if someone is claiming they are from LA and they are not just to get some money...

it isn't surprising though.

[RashoFan]

Besides American Red Cross and Shelter Volunteers WILL make sure any evacees will have a meal.

[RashoFan]

Amongst all the good that humanity has to share, offer and help....the ugly side of humanity comes out to diminish all that has been and will be achieved.:madrun
:soapbox

[Buddy Holly]

I'm doubting that, too... every damn Transguide sign yesterday and today had directions to Port SA and there weren't that many people so far tonight.

I hate when people try to take advantage of a terrible situation.

[RashoFan]

The Houma webcam actually has someone on right now...

[pickle girl]

Thanks for the updates Manny :tu

[RashoFan]

I see the viewer number going up now...:lol

[GuerillaBlack]

link houma. now.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

link houma. now.

Go back a page or check the other thread on the front page. Now.

[GuerillaBlack]

Go back a page or check the other thread on the front page. Now.
i'll do it. now.

:toast

[RashoFan]

The guy on th Houma thread is named Greg and he just showed every one his cat Zoe...somebody on the blog threaten to call the ASPCA on him...

[Ginofan]

The guy on th Houma thread is named Greg and he just showed every one his cat Zoe...somebody on the blog threaten to call the ASPCA on him...

lol that was me!

[RashoFan]

0:29 HurricaneGustav : R.I.P Greg!!

:lmao

[RashoFan]

lol that was me!

That was fing hilarious !!!:lol

[RashoFan]

absolute spice girl?

[Ginofan]

absolute spice girl?

wtf! no way! "mandytx"

[Kriz-Maxima]

Awesome thread.

[RashoFan]

ah...I think asg said something similar....sorry

[Trainwreck2100]

Gustav is such a fairy name

[RashoFan]

wtf! no way! "mandytx"

found the post...
00:26 mandytx : You better protect that cat, i'll all the aspca on you!!!!

[RashoFan]

any one tinkerman??
00:43 tinkerman : shout out from san antonio

[Hustle & Flow]

lol that was me!

I knew you had some trolling in ya! :tu

[T Park]

DirecTV on channel 361 is broadcasting WDSU Channel 6 BTW.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I've yet to see a full use of it because I've been going back and forth, but Rick Sanchez of CNN is making use of Facebook, MySpace and Twitter to communicate with his viewers tonight.

http://twitter.com/ricksanchezcnn

[MannyIsGod]

lol

http://bobbutts.mine.nu/gustav/gusty.jpg

Find the special city.

[MannyIsGod]

BTW Rick Sanchez is annoying.

[T Park]

:lmao Webcam Idiots

nice

[Buddy Holly]

Manny, what is the path now?

[GuerillaBlack]

Here is an interesting video on the 2005 season storms:

0B1aqwdmj38

[Trainwreck2100]

Manny, what is the path now?

I'm no expert, but I'm gonna guess America.

[Buddy Holly]

I'm no expert, but I'm gonna guess America.

[RIMSHOT]

:lol

[MannyIsGod]

http://www.stormtrack.org/radar/gustavloop.gif

thats the best radar to keep track of it, IMO. It has the forcast path on it. Its to the North and East of it still.

[T Park]

:lol

Trainwreck, is that the Joker in your avatar? :lol

[T Park]

Its times like this that I LOVE 24 hour news stations.

[Trainwreck2100]

:lol

Trainwreck, is that the Joker in your avatar? :lol

yes

[T Park]

Looks like theres somethin swirling east of South America already.

[cherylsteele]

Here is an interesting video on the 2005 season storms:

0B1aqwdmj38
Pretty cool

[Buddy Holly]

http://www.stormtrack.org/radar/gustavloop.gif

thats the best radar to keep track of it, IMO. It has the forcast path on it. Its to the North and East of it still.

It looks like the eye is moving north of the line.

[nsrammstein]

in that video they didn't have Hurricane Epsilon and Hurricane Zeta

[nsrammstein]

btw I'm posting tonight from CSR Hospital in Downtown SA

[DaSpurs#1]

The funny thing is these guys have almost 3000 people watching them! There's a chat and everything.

http://www.gregledet.net/hurricam/hurricam.htmlApparently one of them, Dan, gave out his cell number, so i decided to text him this: "Dude I hope yall live but chances are yall won't make it past the flooding."

He just responded saying "Pray 4 us." :lol I think they're starting to get worried now.

[MannyIsGod]

http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/uploads/monthly_09_2008/post-8741-1220271797_thumb.jpg

Grand Isle south of NOLA.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

So Gustav is now a cat 2? Isnt that relatively harmless? By the way, I dont know shit about hurricanes

[ChuckD]

So Gustav is now a cat 2? Isnt that relatively harmless? By the way, I dont know shit about hurricanes
Truer words have never been spoken. It's better for the people of NO for it to be a 2, but people still die in 2s, 1s, and even tropical storms. There's nothing "harmless" about any of them.

[AlamoSpursFan]

A tropical depression skipped over the Texas coast and stalled over Laredo a few years ago. Ask anyone who lost loved ones and/or homes how dangerous a Cat 2 hurricane is...

[remingtonbo2001]

There's a runaway barge in NOLA.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Truer words have never been spoken. It's better for the people of NO for it to be a 2, but people still die in 2s, 1s, and even tropical storms. There's nothing "harmless" about any of them.

Hence why I said relatively, and why I clarified that I don't know anything about hurricanes. You being an arrogant ass about it doesn't do anything other than making you look like an arrogant ass, mmk?

[Trainwreck2100]

fucking wuss hurricane

[RashoFan]

Gustav has officially made landfall as a Cat 2 hurricane at Cocodrie, LA

[RashoFan]

There's a runaway barge in NOLA.

I think the 3 drunk guys from Houma are on it....

[ChuckD]

Hence why I said relatively, and why I clarified that I don't know anything about hurricanes. You being an arrogant ass about it doesn't do anything other than making you look like an arrogant ass, mmk?

"Relatively" implies some level of harmlessness, something only your dumb ass might think exists, mmk?

I was only agreeing with your assessment of your knowledge of hurricanes. No need to get your panties all in a wad...

[BacktoBasics]

You fucking jackasses are so incapable of having a normal conversation. Good work fucking the thread up.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

"Relatively" implies some level of harmlessness, something only your dumb ass might think exists, mmk?

I was only agreeing with your assessment of your knowledge of hurricanes. No need to get your panties all in a wad...

Who the fuck do you think you're fooling? you were being a fucking prick about a perfectly valid question. Next time, either asnwer the question with civility, or SHUT THE FUCK UP!

[remingtonbo2001]

I think the 3 drunk guys from Houma are on it....

:lol

[MaNuMaNiAc]

You fucking jackasses are so incapable of having a normal conversation. Good work fucking the thread up.

man, shut the fuck up! go counsel someone that gives a fuck what you have to say.

The thread wouldn't be fucked up, if Chucky here knew how to refrain from making idiotic smart ass comments.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Back to my original question, how strong is a cat 2? is NOLA still in danger of being erased?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

And the plot thickens...

Water is splashing over the Industrial Street Canal, and CNN is reporting a breach of a canal in the 9th ward. Said the water has breached at the base of the levee and flooding is occurring.

The big problem now is if the water erodes the base then the levee is bound to cave in sooner or later, and when it does that whole area is going to flood again.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

And the plot thickens...

Water is splashing over the Industrial Street Canal, and CNN is reporting a breach of a canal in the 9th ward. Said the water has breached at the base of the levee and flooding is occurring.

The big problem now is if the water erodes the base then the levee is bound to cave in sooner or later, and when it does that whole area is going to flood again.

Haven't the levees been reinforced or something? I mean, after Katrina, one would think they would be.

[CuckingFunt]

Haven't the levees been reinforced or something? I mean, after Katrina, one would think they would be.

About 20% completed. It's a rather extensive project that wasn't expected to be finished until 2011.

[T Park]

Haven't the levees been reinforced or something? I mean, after Katrina, one would think they would be.

Theres only so much you can do.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Haven't the levees been reinforced or something? I mean, after Katrina, one would think they would be.

They have been, but you're still talking about a crapload of water up against them.

The water is just splashing over over the Industrial Canal right now, so things seem okay for now.

But the levee over by the 9th ward that they are reporting a breach of stands at 14'. If that craters, you've got 14' of water pouring into the lower 9th ward.

They had reinforced several of the levees but weren't done with everything yet.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

About 20% completed. It's a rather extensive project that wasn't expected to be finished until 2011.

ah ok. Man, talk about horrible luck

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Hurricane hunter reporting 115 mph winds at flight level as of 10 AM.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Grand Isle, La. reported completely underwater from surge.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Its just damn sad to think a city like New Orleans, with so much history, is in danger of being destroyed. After Katrina, it was really something to see how people united to rebuild it.

Here's to hoping Gustav takes it easy, man!

[RashoFan]

Back to my original question, how strong is a cat 2? is NOLA still in danger of being erased?

To answer the first question:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsshs.shtml
Category Two Hurricane:
Winds 96-110 mph (83-95 kt or 154-177 km/hr). Storm surge generally 6-8 feet above normal. Some roofing material, door, and window damage of buildings. Considerable damage to shrubbery and trees with some trees blown down. Considerable damage to mobile homes, poorly constructed signs, and piers. Coastal and low-lying escape routes flood 2-4 hours before arrival of the hurricane center. Small craft in unprotected anchorages break moorings. Hurricane Frances of 2004 made landfall over the southern end of Hutchinson Island, Florida as a Category Two hurricane. Hurricane Isabel of 2003 made landfall near Drum Inlet on the Outer Banks of North Carolina as a Category 2 hurricane.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Too bad Cantore couldn't get those people off that boat in Houma last night. That place looks like it's getting rocked. Hope those kids don't die because of their parents' stupidity.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

They have been, but you're still talking about a crapload of water up against them.

The water is just splashing over over the Industrial Canal right now, so things seem okay for now.

But the levee over by the 9th ward that they are reporting a breach of stands at 14'. If that craters, you've got 14' of water pouring into the lower 9th ward.

They had reinforced several of the levees but weren't done with everything yet.

:depressed I've got a friend studying Psychology in NOLA. Haven't heard from her for a while, like a year or so. She was alright during Katrina, and from what I've heard they're handling this way better this time, right? I imagine she'll be fine.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

New video on CNN, damn. Homes underwater already in the 9th ward.

[RashoFan]

Gustav is definately a serious hurricane but I am glad that he did not gain the strength that was possible with the warm waters of the GOM. NOLA did not suffer a direct hit, BUT time will tell the extent of damage. Water rolls downhill and in the case...it will roll down stream. Storm surge is pushing water up and in, the heavy rainfall in the area will push flood waters down and out. Folks, it is far from over....

[SpursWoman]

Too bad Cantore couldn't get those people off that boat in Houma last night. That place looks like it's getting rocked. Hope those kids don't die because of their parents' stupidity.


He looked upset enough last night that I'm surprised he didn't go pull at least the kids out himself.

[ChuckD]

You fucking jackasses are so incapable of having a normal conversation. Good work fucking the thread up.

Post of the year. B2B scolds posters for lack of civility.

:lmao

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Man, this is going to get worse for Louisiana. Water is already overtopping (splashing over) at least two levees, and high tide is later today.

[CuckingFunt]

Its just damn sad to think a city like New Orleans, with so much history, is in danger of being destroyed. After Katrina, it was really something to see how people united to rebuild it.

Here's to hoping Gustav takes it easy, man!

I'd be surprised if there is major damage to either the French Quarter or the Garden District. Both of the cities most historic areas survived Katrina relatively unscathed, and I'd imagine they'll be okay here, too.

The thing that the hurricanes have really shown, I think, is how crappy building practices/craftsmanship has become over the years -- the emphasis is build a lot of cheap houses to make the maximum profit, rather than spending more money to build something that's engineered to last. New Orleans' geographical features exaggerate the situation, of course, but if you look at suburbs and sprawl areas throughout the country there are just way too many houses being built where people really shouldn't live.

[RashoFan]

New video on CNN, damn. Homes underwater already in the 9th ward.

no kidding??? damn.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

He looked upset enough last night that I'm surprised he didn't go pull at least the kids out himself.

Yeah, he was flat out pissed. I was hoping he'd go find some cops or something and at least get the kids out of there.

If you tune to CNN they are showing flooding in the 9th ward, quite a bit of water in there already, up to stop signs already.

And the rain hasn't even really got there yet.

[ChuckD]

Who the fuck do you think you're fooling? you were being a fucking prick about a perfectly valid question. Next time, either asnwer the question with civility, or SHUT THE FUCK UP!

It was a dumb question, and you don't own this board, so I will not STFU.

BTW, you misspelled answer.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'd be surprised if there is major damage to either the French Quarter or the Garden District. Both of the cities most historic areas survived Katrina relatively unscathed, and I'd imagine they'll be okay here, too.


This time could be different though. The surge is coming from the south this time. Last time it was the surge pushing the water down from Pontchartrain into the city.

This time you've got Gustav driving the water up the Mississippi.

[SpursWoman]

Yeah, he was flat out pissed. I was hoping he'd go find some cops or something and at least get the kids out of there.

If you tune to CNN they are showing flooding in the 9th ward, quite a bit of water in there already, up to stop signs already.

And the rain hasn't even really got there yet.


I was looking at all 4 NO feeds and no one is talking about that ... they are all talking about the over-lapping. :wtf

http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/gustav.html

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080901/capt.7995e55f59d6440594a04d92a0e70e7f.gustav_new_o rleans_laeg106.jpg?x=400&y=196&q=85&sig=S9UIuZei4MD9VtMlNM1rMw--

[CuckingFunt]

This time could be different though. The surge is coming from the south this time. Last time it was the surge pushing the water down from Pontchartrain into the city.

This time you've got Gustav driving the water up the Mississippi.

It also depends on how the pump system functions this time. Floods can be survived if the water goes away relatively quickly, as was the case in the Quarter during Katrina. The reason the damage was so extensive last time is not because there was flooding, but because those houses just sat in water for days and days.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I was looking at all 4 NO feeds and no one is talking about that ... they are all talking about the over-lapping. :wtf

http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/gustav.html

Well, CNN said they had gone down there with a FEMA observer to check it out and just got back. I imagine that news will make its way to the other feeds shortly.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

:tu Coast Guard.

A barge that was tied up in the river in NO had gotten loose and was in danger of hitting one of the levees. CG sent out a couple of tugs and has it pinned and is in the process of getting it tied back up at some docks.

[BacktoBasics]

man, shut the fuck up! go counsel someone that gives a fuck what you have to say.

The thread wouldn't be fucked up, if Chucky here knew how to refrain from making idiotic smart ass comments.I'm defending you. Fucking retard.

[T Park]

the coast hurd troops were awesome during katrina those guys are studs

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

In all honesty, this thread had gone far too long without petty sniping.

The Katrina sniping happened much earlier in the process.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I was looking at all 4 NO feeds and no one is talking about that ... they are all talking about the over-lapping. :wtf

http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/gustav.html

Man, that feed from Fox8 is looking a little bit more serious. Water crashing over the Industrial Street Canal pretty regularly.

[Brutalis]

What the hell is this storms problem? NOLA is the OTHER way. Geez.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Reports: concern about the integrity of two levees for the next 4-5 hours until the storm moves further west.

[ChuckD]

I'm defending you. Fucking retard.

:lol Apparently, hurricanes aren't the only things he doesn't understand.

B2B, FTW!!!

:lol

[Ginofan]

The topping of the Industrial Canal....one of the people they had on CNN stated that it was just waves topping over the canal and the real water level was at least 3 feet below the top. But damn...that shit looks like it could crumble at any moment.

At least the mayor is worried enough about it.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I'm defending you. Fucking retard.


You fucking jackasses are so incapable of having a normal conversation. Good work fucking the thread up.

See if you can't spot where I may have been confused here...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

WWL at the Industrial Canal, water pouring over the top now. Looking pretty bad.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

:lol Apparently, hurricanes aren't the only things he doesn't understand.

B2B, FTW!!!

:lol

yeah, 'cause you caught that right away, right? :rolleyes

Again, who do you think you're fooling here jackass??

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Radar is looking bad for New Orleans. Showing it turning northeast over Houma and headed for New Orleans now it's on land.

[SpursWoman]

Children! Behave!


Don't make me get the belt.... :makemyday

[MaNuMaNiAc]

WWL at the Industrial Canal, water pouring over the top now. Looking pretty bad.

Question, anybody know where Loyola University is located? is it anywhere near the floods?

[T Park]

they should be lucky the thing didn't strengthen like it was starting to.

[ChuckD]

You mentioned high tide earlier, AHF. What time does that occur?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Question, anybody know where Loyola University is located? is it anywhere near the floods?

Long way. Like 70 blocks from the 9th ward.

[ChuckD]

yeah, 'cause you caught that right away, right? :rolleyes
After your blast at B2B? It wasn't difficult. I think even someone as thick as you could have picked up on that. :lol Or not....

Again, who do you think you're fooling here jackass??
You, but that's like taking candy from a baby. It gets boring PWN1NG your ass repeatedly.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You mentioned high tide earlier, AHF. What time does that occur?

Think they said 3:30. It was like 1:30 out on the coast (Grand Isle area where it hit), 3:30 in the Mississippi at New Orleans.

[Ginofan]

Does anyone else find it funny that President Bush rolls up his sleeves during these types of situation like he's the one doing the hard labor?

[Spur-Addict]

Does anyone else find it funny that President Bush rolls up his sleeves during these types of situation like he's the one doing the hard labor?

:lmao--That's so true.

[ChuckD]

Think they said 3:30. It was like 1:30 out on the coast (Grand Isle area where it hit), 3:30 in the Mississippi at New Orleans.

Shit, that long? Honore was on CNN talking about someone saying that one of the canals coming up from the south was subsiding. Guess that wasn't true...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Long way. Like 70 blocks from the 9th ward.

Good news

[tlongII]

Doesn't look too bad to me. I'd say the evacuation was unnecessary.

[remingtonbo2001]

Does anyone else find it funny that President Bush rolls up his sleeves during these types of situation like he's the one doing the hard labor?

If I was doing hard labor, I wouldn't be wearing a button down shirt.

His sleeves are likely rolled up because it's hot/humid outside, which is typical of the South during August.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

After your blast at B2B? It wasn't difficult. I think even someone as thick as you could have picked up on that. :lol Or not....

You, but that's like taking candy from a baby. It gets boring PWN1NG your ass repeatedly.

:lol Chucky please!! the only thing you're "pwning" around here is your lingering stupidity. Give it a rest.

I'm done arguing with you. Good riddance

[SpursWoman]

If I was doing hard labor, I wouldn't be wearing a button down shirt.


But if I were hot and I was wearing a long sleeve shirt, I'd probably roll up my sleeves.


Anyway, any new developments? I still don't see anything about a levee breech, AHF....?

[remingtonbo2001]

But if I were hot and I was wearing a long sleeve shirt, I'd probably roll up my sleeves.


Anyway, any new developments?

Yep. :toast

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Does anyone else find it funny that President Bush rolls up his sleeves during these types of situation like he's the one doing the hard labor?

He's in a room that doesn't look to be that big, that is crammed full of people, electronics, and video lights that give off a ton of heat.

He's probably just hot, can't we go five minutes without some political shot?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

can't we go five minutes without some political shot?

Especially when there's the news of Bristol Palin's second pregnancy.

















Zing.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I don't actually buy that argument, BTW, but it's still a funny line.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

He's in a room that doesn't look to be that big, that is crammed full of people, electronics, and video lights that give off a ton of heat.

He's probably just hot, can't we go five minutes without some political shot?

+1

[AlamoSpursFan]

Especially when there's the news of Bristol Palin's second pregnancy.

















Zing.

Alleged.

And you call yourself a journalist.

:lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I don't actually buy that argument, BTW, but it's still a funny line.

:lol

[AlamoSpursFan]

And what's with those Palin names? Track? Bristol? I'm guessing old man Palin's a NASCAR fan.

:lol

[ChuckD]

Doesn't look too bad to me. I'd say the evacuation was unnecessary.

Scroll up a few posts. High tide isn't for three and a half hours, yet.

[Ginofan]

I'm hardly the political type AHF, I was just remembering him coming out with that FEMA guy 3 years ago with his sleeves rolled up ready "to get down to business" and just found it a bit humorous. Sue me.

Water is rolling over the Industrial Canal in the middle as per WDSU

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Alleged.

And you call yourself a journalist.

:lol

Journalists don't report the news, they make (up) the news.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Journalists don't report the news, they make (up) the news.

I honestly don't have the time to argue this again considering I'm in my own newsroom making all this Gustav shit up.

[AlamoSpursFan]

Journalists don't report the news, they make (up) the news.

:lol

"When news breaks, we fix it!" -- Lisle and Hahn billboard, mid '90s IIRC.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Man the video feed really looks bad from the Industrial Canal. Water is just pouring over.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I honestly don't have the time to argue this again considering I'm in my own newsroom making all this Gustav shit up.

Just giving you a hard time man, no hate intended.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Just giving you a hard time man, no hate intended.

I know.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to write this story about Obama being the father of Bristol's child.

[SpursWoman]

I think this levee expert they are talking to on NO's Fox8 has a great name for journalism .... Sam Scandaliato. I think he missed his calling. :spin

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I know.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to write this story about Obama being the father of Bristol's child.

Now THAT would bring the country together, wouldn't you say? :lol

[ChuckD]

Uh, oh. They didn't say what levy, but CNN is reporting water coming from UNDER the levy. Police have fled the area, and advised CNN to do the same. Someone named Tuchman reported this.

[T Park]

He's in a room that doesn't look to be that big, that is crammed full of people, electronics, and video lights that give off a ton of heat.

He's probably just hot, can't we go five minutes without some political shot?


Apparently not.

[SpursWoman]

Uh, oh. They didn't say what levy, but CNN is reporting water coming from UNDER the levy. Police have fled the area, and advised CNN to do the same. Someone named Tuchman reported this.


That must be what AHF was talking about. Uh oh. :(

[T Park]

Uh, oh. They didn't say what levy, but CNN is reporting water coming from UNDER the levy. Police have fled the area, and advised CNN to do the same. Someone named Tuchman reported this.

Yeah the shit is really gonna hit the fan here pretty soon...

[BacktoBasics]

You guys have ruined this thread for me. I'm telling a mod and then maybe an admin.

[ChuckD]

You guys have ruined this thread for me. I'm telling a mod and then maybe an admin.

Aw, don't go, B2B. Manumaniac and I have agreed to put aside our obvious differences of IQ (his: room temperature, mine: Triple 9 society level) and just talk storm.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

You guys have ruined this thread for me. I'm telling a mod and then maybe an admin.

Which mod?

[T Park]

You guys have ruined this thread for me. I'm telling a mod and then maybe an admin.

:lol

[Ginofan]

How can there be water UNDER the levee? I thought these things were built deep into the ground? You would have to see the water seep up through the ground, and distinguishing between that and an already saturated ground? I don't get it.

[BacktoBasics]

Which mod?Moderator SpursWoman then the mod named LJ and if I have to I'll tell the admin Kori and if he doesn't listen I'm gonna find out who owns this place. I know they don't appreciated this kind of shit.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Moderator SpursWoman then the mod named LJ and if I have to I'll tell the admin Kori and if he doesn't listen I'm gonna find out who owns this place. I know they don't appreciated this kind of shit.


:lol

[ChuckD]

How can there be water UNDER the levee? I thought these things were built deep into the ground? You would have to see the water seep up through the ground, and distinguishing between that and an already saturated ground? I don't get it.

One of the faults found after Katrina was that the levies weren't sunk deep enough. When the ground gets super saturated, the water can force it's way underneath, and undermine the levy. Instant failure and flood.

I don't think it's "seeping". It would look more like a large spring forming, with the water sort of "fountaining" up.

[AlamoSpursFan]

if I have to I'll tell the admin Kori and if he doesn't listen

You should see his rack!

:lmao

[Ginofan]

One of the faults found after Katrina was that the levies weren't sunk deep enough. When the ground gets super saturated, the water can force it's way underneath, and undermine the levy. Instant failure and flood.

I don't think it's "seeping". It would look more like a large spring forming, with the water sort of "fountaining" up.

Thank you.

You know I wonder what exact improvements they made to the levees. I know they were only like 20 percent done with the entire project but that seems like something pretty important to work on first.

[AlamoSpursFan]

Thank you.

You know I wonder what exact improvements they made to the levees. I know they were only like 20 percent done with the entire project but that seems like something pretty important to work on first.

Corruption isn't something that just comes to a screeching halt overnight...

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Moderator SpursWoman then the mod named LJ and if I have to I'll tell the admin Kori and if he doesn't listen I'm gonna find out who owns this place. I know they don't appreciated this kind of shit.

They really don't.

[ChuckD]

Thank you.

You know I wonder what exact improvements they made to the levees. I know they were only like 20 percent done with the entire project but that seems like something pretty important to work on first.

The levies were the priority, but I think the completion timeline was 2010-2011. They weren't even close to being done. They still have older, shallow levies and even earthen ones.:wow

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

To address CNN's water under the levy thing, one of the NO news stations said that the report was false, that further investigation concluded it was water coming up from a storm drain.

Still a problem as that water is obviously coming from somewhere, but it's not as bad as hearing that a levee is failing.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Thank you.

You know I wonder what exact improvements they made to the levees. I know they were only like 20 percent done with the entire project but that seems like something pretty important to work on first.

The main failure in Katrina was that as the water came over the levees, there was just earth backing up the levees so it eroded the earth on the backside of the levee until it couldn't support the wall any longer and the wall collapsed backwards.

Basically, they are redoing all the levees by putting several feet of concrete at the base on the front and back of the levee walls, so the water that tops the levees is coming down onto solid concrete and not dirt/grass.

[ChuckD]

To address CNN's water under the levy thing, one of the NO news stations said that the report was false, that further investigation concluded it was water coming up from a storm drain.

Still a problem as that water is obviously coming from somewhere, but it's not as bad as hearing that a levee is failing.

Well, that's good news. A levy failure would be about the worst thing to happen at this point, other than maybe a massive tornado outbreak.

They stopped running that text, BTW. I guess they heard about the storm drain thing.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Damn.

Go here.

http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/gustav.html

Look at the Fox8 feed, quite a bit of water over the Industrial Canal at the Judge Seeber Bridge.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

From NOLA.com.

http://blog.nola.com/hurricane_impact/2008/09/02ind1.jpg

[ChuckD]

Damn.

Go here.

http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/gustav.html

Look at the Fox8 feed, quite a bit of water over the Industrial Canal at the Judge Seeber Bridge.

Good link, but I had to mute my sound. Five audio feeds is about four too many.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Good link, but I had to mute my sound. Five audio feeds is about four too many.

Well, the idea is that you'd mute all but one :lol

[SpursWoman]

Well, the idea is that you'd mute all but one :lol


Don't laugh ... I had a split-second senior moment, too. :oops :lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Blaze, in that photo...

Look at the closest corner of the levee wall. It looks like there are two leaks at the base of the wall and another near the top. I wonder if that's going to hold up.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Other notes:

* Hanna is now a hurricane and projected landfall later in the week near Charleston, SC.

* Long range forecast has what will become Tropical storm Ike coming into the Gulf of Mexico next week.

[angel_luv]

Just saw President Bush arrive in Air Force One at Lackland Airforce base for tour of refugee accomodations there.

It was pretty neat. :tu

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Dang, it's going to get interesting later.

Showing video of the Industrial Street Canal. Wind is blowing water up against the west side of the canal and its levee. East side levee wall doesn't even have water against it, that's how hard the wind is blowing.

But later as the storm moves on the wind is going to shift around and blowing west to east, and put that water against the other levee wall.... which only has earthen backing, no concrete reinforcement.

[Heath Ledger]

storm of the century my ass.... :(

[Heath Ledger]

where the fuck is Manny the weather guy?

[T Park]

storm of the century my ass.... :(

Its over land and is still a 2, that's pretty freakin bad.

[ChuckD]

Any word yet from St. Bernard or Plaquemines parishes?

[T Park]

Other notes:

* Hanna is now a hurricane and projected landfall later in the week near Charleston, SC.

* Long range forecast has what will become Tropical storm Ike coming into the Gulf of Mexico next week.

That fuckin hurricane better not fuck up Turks and Caicos, I'm going on vacation there in freakin November.

[Ginofan]

they just had up on cnn that a ship in the industrial canal is loose and hitting the wall... not good!

[ChuckD]

That fuckin hurricane better not fuck up Turks and Caicos, I'm going on vacation there in freakin November.

TPark, you'll be lucky not to have a hurricane there while you are. Tis still the season in November. If you want a hurricane free Caribbean vacation, book after January or go FAR SOUTH, like Belize, Aruba, or St. Vincent and the Grenadines. Hurricanes almost never dip that far south.

[Ginofan]

they just had up on cnn that a ship in the industrial canal is loose and hitting the wall... not good!

This could just be another CNN rumor...I'm not seeing it on any of the live news feeds out of Louisiana...

[T Park]

TPark, you'll be lucky not to have a hurricane there while you are. Tis still the season in November. If you want a hurricane free Caribbean vacation, book after January or go FAR SOUTH, like Belize, Aruba, or St. Vincent and the Grenadines. Hurricanes almost never dip that far south.


Its a vacation/wedding

I don't get any vacations and this is a rare one, so I repeat what I said earlier :lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

This could just be another CNN rumor...I'm not seeing it on any of the live news feeds out of Louisiana...

Coast Guard reports a total of eight boats loose in the Mississippi, all tugboats, fwiw.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Industrial Street Canal.

http://photos.nola.com/photos/tpphotos/4c7b2290c44e27cc8846253c6a4d633d.jpg

http://photos.nola.com/photos/tpphotos/8da3a9cdf4126eefdfff4130d7b09134.jpg

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Those photos were as of about 12 today though. More recent news:


In a sign of a subsiding surge and easing winds, waves are no longer sloshing over the western side of the Industrial Canal floodwall at the Claiborne Avenue bridge in New Orleans, according to multiple witnesses.

Still, water continues to slosh over the top of the wall closer to the lake, near Florida Avenue.

The subsiding water closer to the river is leaving a field of debris along the sides of the canal.

The question of whether storm waters would become a torrent over the west wall has posed a day-long emergency analysis situation for Army Corps of Engineers officials.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

More forecasts for what will be 'Ike' to come into the Gulf...

http://forums.accuweather.com/uploads/post-15384-1220287429.gif

This is the Euro long range model... yes they have this going to New Orleans, basically an identical track to Katrina - over the Keys and then into the Gulf before hooking into La/Mississippi.

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts/d/getchart/catalog/products/forecasts/medium/deterministic/msl_uv850_z500!Wind%20850%20and%20mslp!240!North%2 0America!pop!od!oper!public_plots!2008090100!!char t.gif

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj58/starsinwinter08/ike9108.gif

[T Park]

Thats lovely...

[RashoFan]

Maybe Gustav is just the appetitizer.....Hanna is an amuse buoche...Ike maybe a main course.....and at this point I would like to decline DESSERT!!!

[TheTruth]

More forecasts for what will be 'Ike' to come into the Gulf...

http://forums.accuweather.com/uploads/post-15384-1220287429.gif

This is the Euro long range model... yes they have this going to New Orleans, basically an identical track to Katrina - over the Keys and then into the Gulf before hooking into La/Mississippi.

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts/d/getchart/catalog/products/forecasts/medium/deterministic/msl_uv850_z500!Wind%20850%20and%20mslp!240!North%2 0America!pop!od!oper!public_plots!2008090100!!char t.gif

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj58/starsinwinter08/ike9108.gif

are these just doomsday projections, or are they actual scientific models?

[CubanMustGo]

Remember that several days ago, models had Hanna coming into NO. Ike's a long way from posing a threat.

[ChuckD]

Maybe Gustav is just the appetitizer.....Hanna is an amuse buoche...Ike maybe a main course.....and at this point I would like to decline DESSERT!!!

What if it's hurricane Pizookie?
;)

[RashoFan]

What if it's hurricane Pizookie?
;)

Damn, I love me some Pizookie...:lol

[spursfan09]

And the other 2 hurricanes are suppose to hit the Gulf again? Geesh. I feel sorry for the people who might have to evacuate more than once this season.

[GuerillaBlack]

Remember that several days ago, models had Hanna coming into NO. Ike's a long way from posing a threat.

Only two models did on wunderground. They all have changed now. The NHC has been super accurate with Gustav, so I'm sure they will be with Hanna and Ike.

[Sonia_TX]

Just saw President Bush arrive in Air Force One at Lackland Airforce base for tour of refugee accomodations there.

It was pretty neat. :tu

Me too!! He waved to my aunt (she was waving) as the Motorcade passed. I didn't get a picture of him, just of one of the SUV's. I was too busy trying to find out where he was. lol This is one of my pics of AF1 landing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/saratoddla/DSCF2091.jpg

[angel_luv]

Me too!! He waved to my aunt (she was waving) as the Motorcade passed. I didn't get a picture of him, just of one of the SUV's. I was too busy trying to find out where he was. lol This is one of my pics of AF1 landing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/saratoddla/DSCF2091.jpg

That's awesome. :)

I only saw it on the news.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

A little closer to home, a big-ass fire is happening at an industrial park south of the Dome.

[RashoFan]

Que the california earthquake.....sorry the all the Cali posters...not wishing one on y'all at all.

[T Park]

Let one happen to Northern California on Wednesday.

I'm never coming up here again.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Bummer.

Being reported on New Orleans TV that an imminent breaking of the Plaquemines levee is set to occur.

Estimated to flood 200 homes, not go into the city, but no guarantees.

[ChuckD]

Bummer.

Being reported on New Orleans TV that an imminent breaking of the Plaquemines levee is set to occur.

Estimated to flood 200 homes, not go into the city, but no guarantees.

Braithewaite, too, as per WGNO.:depressed

[T Park]

Yeah they are going to the area with sandbags hoping to slow it all down or stop it

[CuckingFunt]

That fuckin hurricane better not fuck up Turks and Caicos, I'm going on vacation there in freakin November.


Let one happen to Northern California on Wednesday.

I'm never coming up here again.

Though I risk the wrath of our resident life coach for going off topic, just thought I'd take this moment to remind T Park to keep these two posts in mind the next time he can't figure out why people think he's a selfish ass.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Wow, from the video they look hosed on that levee, it's pouring through.

[nsrammstein]

so where is Hanna supposed to make landfall now?

[Ginofan]

It looks like they are plugging up the Braithewaite levee up pretty good...they have more rains coming so hopefully all their efforts aren't for nothing.

[AlamoSpursFan]

This could just be another CNN rumor...I'm not seeing it on any of the live news feeds out of Louisiana...

Oh come on...CNN doesn't report rumors. Only Fox News does that.

:rolleyes

[GuerillaBlack]

so where is Hanna supposed to make landfall now?

Hanna is suppose to make landfall near Savannah. Also, some images on Ike:

http://icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/images/at200809_5day.gif

http://icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/images/at200809_sat.jpg

http://icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/storm_radar/nine09l.2008090112_anim.gif?cache=181

Watch out for Ike.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Reporter: levee breach plugged. Nice job.

This is unbelievable though, don't they know they were supposed to wait for FEMA to come do it for them?

[T Park]

Though I risk the wrath of our resident life coach for going off topic, just thought I'd take this moment to remind T Park to keep these two posts in mind the next time he can't figure out why people think he's a selfish ass.


Yeah completely serious.

Get over yourself.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Dang, two others levees breaching.

[Ginofan]

Dang, two others levees breaching.

Where at?

[T Park]

They just didn't have enough time to fix the levees.

Honestly, its amazing they've held up as long as they have.

[MannyIsGod]

Reporter: levee breach plugged. Nice job.

This is unbelievable though, don't they know they were supposed to wait for FEMA to come do it for them?

lol what a dick. Didn't you scold Mandy above for bringing politics into this?

[tlongII]

Much ado about nothing.

[MannyIsGod]

Doesn't look too bad to me. I'd say the evacuation was unnecessary.

They got lucky in 2 ways.

1. Look at the radar loops of when it came ashore. It was trending to NOLA all fucking night, then 2 hours before landfall It veers almost DIRECTLY west. Huge wobble to the west saved them a lot of damage. A lot.

2. I didn't have en environment to ever ramp up again. Its so hard to tell how strong these storms are going to get and this one had a lot of good ingredients. I'd say 70% of the time storms with this path in the Gulf will it easy to grow in size. Gustav never got its act together which is great. Also, recon found concentric eye walls shortly before landfall. It was starting an Eye wall replacement cycle which weakened it even further.

All of that good luck on their side, and NOLA still almost saw those levees overtopped. They got lucky. And its a good thing they did, but to say it was not necessary to evacuate ignores so much common sense and what happened last time.

[MannyIsGod]

Where the fuck is Viva?

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/overview_atl/atl_overview.gif

Its a slow fucking season right?

Those models that showed four storms active in the Atlantic basin are pretty much right on. That area right behind Ike will probably develop.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Exactly how big is Hanna right about now?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

They got lucky in 2 ways.

1. Look at the radar loops of when it came ashore. It was trending to NOLA all fucking night, then 2 hours before landfall It veers almost DIRECTLY west. Huge wobble to the west saved them a lot of damage. A lot.

2. I didn't have en environment to ever ramp up again. Its so hard to tell how strong these storms are going to get and this one had a lot of good ingredients. I'd say 70% of the time storms with this path in the Gulf will it easy to grow in size. Gustav never got its act together which is great. Also, recon found concentric eye walls shortly before landfall. It was starting an Eye wall replacement cycle which weakened it even further.

All of that good luck on their side, and NOLA still almost saw those levees overtopped. They got lucky. And its a good thing they did, but to say it was not necessary to evacuate ignores so much common sense and what happened last time.

My biggest worry about this is that people will say this wasn't bad and won't evacuate next time and then get nailed.

There still seems to be some concern about several levees possibly failing this evening, Jindal is talking about extraordinarly high tides throughout the evening.

[Ginofan]

Exactly how big is Hanna right about now?

Hanna is a CAT 1 right now and is expected to upgrade to a CAT 2 late in the week.

[Ginofan]

lol what a dick. Didn't you scold Mandy above for bringing politics into this?

Oh you know AHF is exempt from any type of hypocrisy.

[GuerillaBlack]

Hannah is a CAT 1 right now and is expected to upgrade to a CAT 2 late in the week.

Hanna is growing in area, too.

http://icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/images/at200808_sat.jpg

http://icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/storm_radar/hanna08l.2008090112_anim.gif?cache=191

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Yikes. Jindal just said Pontchartrain is rising, they've had to activate some pumps and shut off the floodgates on one of the canals.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Oh you know AHF is exempt from any type of hypocrisy.

I didn't attack either party, it was a societal comment. Yeash.

[tlongII]

All I can say is evacuation wasn't necessary. You can talk about "what if's" all you want, but the fact of the matter is that evacuation wasn't necessary.

[GuerillaBlack]

Yikes. Jindal just said Pontchartrain is rising, they've had to activate some pumps and shut off the floodgates on one of the canals.

And imagine if Gustav had not moved at the last minute and if it had not went through an eye replacement at the last minute. Those levees would have been gone right now most likely. Good thing Gustav did what it did (for New Orleans). Baton Rouge and Lafayette are getting hit a lot harder though.


All I can say is evacuation wasn't necessary. You can talk about "what if's" all you want, but the fact of the matter is that evacuation wasn't necessary.

Did you not see those levees earlier today? had Gustav not did what it did, they would have been breached, easily.

[MannyIsGod]

All I can say is evacuation wasn't necessary. You can talk about "what if's" all you want, but the fact of the matter is that evacuation wasn't necessary.

Do you wear a seatbelt in a car everytime or only when you know you're giong to wreck?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

All I can say is evacuation wasn't necessary. You can talk about "what if's" all you want, but the fact of the matter is that evacuation wasn't necessary.

Uh, yeah.

If Gustav hadn't jogged slightly west right before landfall, all those levees that were getting overtopped today would have had a couple of feet of water flowing over them.

There's still flooding in the 9th ward. Talk about ignorance.

[Ginofan]

Since we are having all these storms being produced all at once...has there ever been a time where one storm has combined with another?

[T Park]

lol what a dick. Didn't you scold Mandy above for bringing politics into this?

I don't see how thats political at all....

[tlongII]

Do you wear a seatbelt in a car everytime or only when you know you're giong to wreck?

That's almost the same thing.