Gustav

[GuerillaBlack]

Since we are having all these storms being produced all at once...has there ever been a time where one storm has combined with another?

Yeah in 2005 was the last time. Hurricane Wilma just completely swallowed Tropical Storm Alpha.

[j-6]

Yeah in 2005 was the last time. Hurricane Wilma just completely swallowed Tropical Storm Alpha.

Didn't Wilma actually retard Alpha's growth, and then absorbed its remnants when Alpha dissipated? I guess the question wasn't too clear, but I was thinking of two hurricanes folding into one another.

[Buddy Holly]

All I can say is evacuation wasn't necessary. You can talk about "what if's" all you want, but the fact of the matter is that evacuation wasn't necessary.


Make that claim when it's not after the fact. You continue to impress with the lame shit you spew.

[Ginofan]

Didn't Wilma actually retard Alpha's growth, and then absorbed its remnants when Alpha dissipated? I guess the question wasn't too clear, but I was thinking of two hurricanes folding into one another.

Yeah that's what I really meant...sorry I wasn't clear. Has there ever been two hurricanes combine with each other before landfall

[Buddy Holly]

Didn't Wilma actually retard Alpha's growth, and then absorbed its remnants when Alpha dissipated? I guess the question wasn't too clear, but I was thinking of two hurricanes folding into one another.

Aside from the perfect storm that hit the northeast in the early 90's, the only other event caused by the collision of two objects, aka perfect storm 2, would be when Halle Barry's parents conceived her.


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[ChuckD]

Hanna is a CAT 1 right now and is expected to upgrade to a CAT 2 late in the week.


Hanna is growing in area, too.

Hanna is also sitting right on top of Turks and Caicos. Saw it on the weather channel. Sorry TPark.

[ChuckD]

That's almost the same thing.

Actually, it's exactly the same thing. By the time you know, definitively, that evacuation is necessary, it's too late. Same thing with the seatbelt, sheep-o-phile.

[marini martini]

You think we'll get any rain????????

[Cry Havoc]

Yeah that's what I really meant...sorry I wasn't clear. Has there ever been two hurricanes combine with each other before landfall

Hurricanes will not usually merge with each other. Instead, they tend to circle each other when they are near. This is known as the Fujiwhara effect. Though they CAN merge, it rarely happens, and usually the smaller storm is ripped apart.

Aggie/Manny, it would be interesting to see two major hurricanes merge if one of them were an anti-cyclone. Not sure if that's entirely possible, but it would be crazy to see.

[Cry Havoc]

That's almost the same thing.

You're an idiot. If Gustav manages to develop an eye in the Gulf of Mexico, not only does he suddenly become a Category 4 or 5 hurricane, likely landfalling with 150+ mph winds, but he curves farther to the right as well, and goes directly into New Orleans. Those levies would be shattered right now if Gustav was even a strong cat 3 on landfall. A cat 5 would have completely submerged NOLA again.

You don't take chances with millions of lives because you "hope" a storm is going to weaken. That's fucking IDIOTIC.

[MannyIsGod]

wait how ould a hurricane be an anticyclone? You lost me...

The fujiwara effect is what happens when any 2 vorticies in a fluid interact. In terms of hurricanes, they would circle a common point kind of appaering to circle each other. One would likely weaken and the stronger would dominate the interaction eventually absorbing the moisture and energy from the other one. Its too simplistic to they would combine or one would absorb the other but thats kinda what happens but not really.

[ChuckD]

wait how ould a hurricane be an anticyclone? You lost me...


I think he may have been referring to a southern hemisphere storm, rotating the other direction, and wondering what would happen if a northern and southern one were both close to the equator and each other.

My theory is that they wouldn't merge. Since they are counter-rotating, they would probably just "bounce".

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

wait how ould a hurricane be an anticyclone? You lost me...

The fujiwara effect is what happens when any 2 vorticies in a fluid interact. In terms of hurricanes, they would circle a common point kind of appaering to circle each other. One would likely weaken and the stronger would dominate the interaction eventually absorbing the moisture and energy from the other one. Its too simplistic to they would combine or one would absorb the other but thats kinda what happens but not really.

Like a binary star system...

No, he said if a hurricane and an anticyclone MERGED... but if he thought about that for a moment he'd realise it can't happen as the two are rotating in opposite directions and would simply cancel each other out as they came closer together. Also, high pressure plus low pressure = medium pressure, which would cancel out the hurricane. And Chuck, they couldn't cross the equator anyway, so they couldn't merge.

Glad to see NO wasn't wiped out. Where to from here for the city?

[Cry Havoc]

wait how ould a hurricane be an anticyclone? You lost me...

The fujiwara effect is what happens when any 2 vorticies in a fluid interact. In terms of hurricanes, they would circle a common point kind of appaering to circle each other. One would likely weaken and the stronger would dominate the interaction eventually absorbing the moisture and energy from the other one. Its too simplistic to they would combine or one would absorb the other but thats kinda what happens but not really.

I didn't say it was possible. But there are anti-cyclonic and cyclonic tornadoes... why not a hurricane? =P

I just was musing about two storms merging with winds of the same direction.

[RashoFan]

Has there been a time in history where 3 hurricane hit the US within 1week's time? That question was asked by someone on CNN and I feel asleep before there was an answer.

[Ginofan]

Check it out, those 3 drunk guys in Houma, LA with the webcam survived the storm!

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080902/i/ra3539058343.jpg?x=400&y=280&q=85&sig=4UhBOF56vQwr5Yg8xyAFUw--
Greg LaDay looks at the damage caused by Hurricane Gustav to a children's day care centre at the Chateau Creole Apartments in Houma, Louisiana September 1, 2008.

[RashoFan]

Mandy, I guess Zoe is okay and you don't have to call the ASPCA...:lol

[GuerillaBlack]

Tropical Storm Gustav now.

Hanna and Ike strengthening. We have a long week.

[T Park]

The early tracking shows Ike heading straight for the gulf...

Those people on the coast might as well stay away...

[MannyIsGod]

I didn't say it was possible. But there are anti-cyclonic and cyclonic tornadoes... why not a hurricane? =P

I just was musing about two storms merging with winds of the same direction.

A cyclone is basically an area of low pressure. The air rises because of this low pressure and the spin of the are makes the air spin as it rises. This is why you see a cyclones circulation. Without the spin of the earth air would just rise straight up with no spin (all things being equal). An anticyclone is an area of high pressure and it rotates the oppisite direction as its air is sinking but for the same reason a cyclone rotates. You'll never see them colide at the same level because a cylcone will travel along the area of least resistance. That isn't going to be directly into a wall of high pressure.

Tornaodes are so small in scale that occasionaly they rotate in an anti cyclonic manner but its only because of their small scale. Low pressure systems the size of hurricanes can not escape the corrilois effect.

Storms can't really merge because storms aren't really objects themselves. They're a set of conditions.

[Cry Havoc]

A cyclone is basically an area of low pressure. The air rises because of this low pressure and the spin of the are makes the air spin as it rises. This is why you see a cyclones circulation. Without the spin of the earth air would just rise straight up with no spin (all things being equal). An anticyclone is an area of high pressure and it rotates the oppisite direction as its air is sinking but for the same reason a cyclone rotates. You'll never see them colide at the same level because a cylcone will travel along the area of least resistance. That isn't going to be directly into a wall of high pressure.

Tornaodes are so small in scale that occasionaly they rotate in an anti cyclonic manner but its only because of their small scale. Low pressure systems the size of hurricanes can not escape the corrilois effect.

Storms can't really merge because storms aren't really objects themselves. They're a set of conditions.

You just have no imagination. :lol

And, dude... uh.... you've seen me post here long enough, right? I know what a pressure difference is and how lows and highs work. If you were posting for other people though, that's coo. =P

[phxspurfan]

I wish I got to see a hurricane in Phoenix. Just once, a little one.

[tlongII]

You're an idiot. If Gustav manages to develop an eye in the Gulf of Mexico, not only does he suddenly become a Category 4 or 5 hurricane, likely landfalling with 150+ mph winds, but he curves farther to the right as well, and goes directly into New Orleans. Those levies would be shattered right now if Gustav was even a strong cat 3 on landfall. A cat 5 would have completely submerged NOLA again.

You don't take chances with millions of lives because you "hope" a storm is going to weaken. That's fucking IDIOTIC.

SCOREBOARD

[Trainwreck2100]

Gustav was like Reggie Bush, all hype but when he got to New Orleans had no substance.

[RashoFan]

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ATLANTIC STORMS:
TS Gustav
Hurricane Hanna
TS IKE
TS JOSPHINE

PACIFIC STORMS:
TS Karina
Invest 98
Invest 95

[Cry Havoc]

SCOREBOARD

107 deaths and estimated $10-20,000,000,000 in damage. You fail.

[tlongII]

107 deaths and estimated $10-20,000,000,000 in damage. You fail.

You can cry "HAVOC!" all you want. We're talking about the USA here.

[MannyIsGod]

Sure is a slow season. Only four named storms at once. Stupid weather people and monkeys always blowing shit out of proportion.

Right, Viva?

[Los Spurs]

Sure is a slow season. Only four named storms at once. Stupid weather people and monkeys always blowing shit out of proportion.

Right, Viva?

Manny, are any of the new TS's going to hit Texas? :(

[BacktoBasics]

Manny, are any of the new TS's going to hit Texas? :(Tropical Storm "Misty" is looming out there somewhere. Gonna wreck a lot of homes.

[CubanMustGo]

You can cry "HAVOC!" all you want. We're talking about the USA here.

You really are evolving more into a troll with every day. Kori may have to wield that banstick for good one of these days.

[tlongII]

You really are evolving more into a troll with every day. Kori may have to wield that banstick for good one of these days.

Just wait until the season starts...