ESPN Radio Rumor: Rasheed for fab and finley (and others)

[George Gervin's Afro]

No, I wouldn't :lmao

good one. you got me!

[DPG21920]

Look, even if there is no third team, Detroit can still get a good deal. They get to keep their cap relief still (which they have with Sheed), they get a bigman prospect, they get under the luxury tax and they get 3 million in luxury tax sharing.

If you can have cap space or cap space + young prospect + avoid luxury tax + get 3 million, which would you choose?

This all depends on whether or not either A) Pistons are just cutting losses this year or B) there is a third team.

[ducks]

wallace is walking
trading him for prospects are smart

[justinandimcool]

Nothing on Pistons forums yet. I have about 30% belief in this. It's absolutely too good to be true.

[coyotes_geek]

Look, even if there is no third team, Detroit can still get a good deal. They get to keep their cap relief still (which they have with Sheed), they get a bigman prospect, they get under the luxury tax and they get 3 million in luxury tax sharing.

If you can have cap space or cap space + young prospect + avoid luxury tax + get 3 million, which would you choose?

This all depends on whether or not either A) Pistons are just cutting losses this year or B) there is a third team.

But the problem for us is that the Spurs aren't the only team out there that can offer tax relief. All it takes is one other team out there who can offer the same tax relief and better return talent.

[SequSpur]

if manu wore a different uniform, you wouldn't think he was that good.. shit, I don't get it...dude has played decent in probably 30 games in the last 180 and u guys wouldn't trade him for lebron...

dunce caps.

[baseline bum]

Horry is a free agent and the Spurs have full bird rights on him. They can sign him for anything up to the max. The 105% would come into play if he were still under contract and signing an extension.

Also, the 85% is from the old CBA.

Forgot that he'd be Full Bird. Nice.

[DPG21920]

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/kutcher-ashton-photo-ashton-kutcher-6226616.jpg

Thread starter?

[rayray2k8]

You guys are getting excited over a rumor????
Keep dreaming. :rolleyes

[Ghazi]

Well, the Gasol steal atleast shed some salary for Memphis and got them Marc Gasol.

But Finley and Fab for fucking Sheed? That doesn't shed salary, that doesnt give them young talent or draft picks, thats just front office COLLUSION!

Im writing a letter to David Stern if this shit goes down.

[iggypop123]

radio should never be trusted for rumors. joe dumars does not =chris wallace

[Behrooz24]

I still got wood. :hat

[pkbpkb81]

I am just surprised that anyone listens to the Chris Duel show

[byrdman31]

I still got wood. :hat
x2

:lol im getting to excited over nothing, (at this point)

[coyotes_geek]

Well, the Gasol steal atleast shed some salary for Memphis and got them Marc Gasol.

But Finley and Fab for fucking Sheed? That doesn't shed salary, that doesnt give them young talent or draft picks, thats just front office COLLUSION!

Im writing a letter to David Stern if this shit goes down.

Don't worry, after the Gasol trade a very prominent NBA coach recommended that the league form some kind of a committee to review lopsided trades.............

[DPG21920]

But the problem for us is that the Spurs aren't the only team out there that can offer tax relief. All it takes is one other team out there who can offer the same tax relief and better return talent.

That is true. But many might not want Sheed or he does not help (since he would be a rental). Sheed really only helps a contender so that narrows down the list.

Not to mention, I am sure the Pistons respect Sheed and knowing he wants to play for the Spurs, would take that into consideration all things being equal

[DrHouse]

The Gasol trade actually made sense when you think about it.

Gasol still had quite a few years left on his K and MEM wanted an expiring to get out from under it. They got a good serviceable C in his brother Marc and capspace.

This trade, according to what's been reported here, makes almost no sense for DET. But they did choose fucking Darko Milicic over Carmelo so anything is possible I guess.

[rayray2k8]

Hmmm if this is true, then they should talking about it in Detriot's radio sport station.
http://www.wdfn.com/cc-common/ondemand/player2.html?world=st

Havent heard anything yet... I call bullshit.

[Kori Ellis]

The Gasol trade actually made sense when you think about it.

Gasol still had quite a few years left on his K and MEM wanted an expiring to get out from under it. They got a good serviceable C in his brother Marc and capspace.

This trade, according to what's been reported here, makes almost no sense for DET. But they did choose fucking Darko Milicic over Carmelo so anything is possible I guess.

The point is that the trade isn't being reported here as anything detailed. It's just saying that Fab and Finley are PART of a trade that involves the Spurs getting back Rasheed. The trade could involve a third team as well as multiple other players from the Spurs. No one is saying that the Spurs are getting Rasheed just for Fab and Finley ONLY - that's just the thread title.

[DPG21920]

The Gasol trade actually made sense when you think about it.

Gasol still had quite a few years left on his K and MEM wanted an expiring to get out from under it. They got a good serviceable C in his brother Marc and capspace.

This trade, according to what's been reported here, makes almost no sense for DET. But they did choose fucking Darko Milicic over Carmelo so anything is possible I guess.

When they traded for Marc, he was an unknown. Getting Ian or Tiago, they could be just as servicable as Marc and they get cap space as well and they get luxury tax relief and money from the pool.

Also, Memphis was not in danger of losing Gasol for nothing.

[completely deck]

The Gasol trade actually made sense when you think about it.

No, it doesn't.

[Kori Ellis]

Hmmm if this is true, then they should talking about it in Detriot's radio sport station.
http://www.wdfn.com/cc-common/ondemand/player2.html?world=st

Havent heard anything yet... I call bullshit.

I wouldn't think they would be talking about it on Detroit station, since it was just one person with an inside source talking to a San Antonio station.

[DPG21920]

We need Ludden!

[Kori Ellis]

I still don't think it will happen, but hopefully the Spurs do something. I don't think they can go into playoff battle with the bigs they have.

[tlongII]

I wouldn't trade Ginobili for Sheed straight up.

[Kori Ellis]

Not sure why this was merged into this thread but I am 100% right. You will see next week. I have personally been in touch with an Eastern Conference GM this week. Won't happen.

Because it's the same topic. It's not really going out on a limb. What you are saying is what the majority of the people in the thread are saying...That the Spurs don't have enough to get Rasheed without giving up Ginobili.

[IronMexican]

Who has better bigs in the West than the Spurs? (assuming Bynum is done for the year)

LA, PHX, Houston, New Orleans.

[pkbpkb81]

i would be funny if he became a spur wasent he playing d on the 2 biggest plays in spurs history, game 2 of the 99 conf finals and game 5 of the 05 finals

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah but people will overlook the post and continue to thing this is going to happen. I don't want people to be excited over a trade that has no life whatsoever.

No one is thinking this is going to happen for sure. They are just discussing it as a rumor like every other rumor. The trade that is being talked about here isn't about just Fin/Fab for Rasheed. It's talking about a third team being involved, other players being involved, etc. Most everyone in this thread has said that the Spurs would need to give up much more. Your post wasn't a revelation.

[IronMexican]

Matt Bonner....

[ploto]

If the Pistons know Rasheed will leave and they risk getting nothing, then they may be willing to trade for expiring contracts, young talent, and some sweetners in multiple draft picks and players' rights.

[ploto]

Also, if the notion of signing Horry to trade him is a facet, then the Spurs have to include a team to which Rob wants to go, and that is not Detroit.

[Kori Ellis]

Also, if the notion of signing Horry to trade him is a facet, then the Spurs have to include a team to which Rob wants to go, and that is not Detroit.

I think the understanding would be that Horry would never play for whatever team he goes to (in any trade). He'd be just doing it to get some free money and get cut.

[IronMexican]

Also, if the notion of signing Horry to trade him is a facet, then the Spurs have to include a team to which Rob wants to go, and that is not Detroit.

I don't think anyone is going to sign Rob. Buford will tell him "You want to make 3 million to pass a physical and practice for a while?" He wont turn that down.

[ploto]

I think the understanding would be that Horry would never play for whatever team he goes to (in any trade). He'd be just doing it to get some free money and get cut.

I heard he wants to play.

[Kori Ellis]

I heard he wants to play.

I heard recently that he didn't. Who knows.

[EricB]

Okay I just talked a friend who works for the Pistons and he said yes there is something happening. He could not give me all the people involved but did say that Duncan and Parker would be going to Detriot. He was pretty sure Kwame Brown and a few other players would be going back in the deal. Stay tuned this is going to be huge.


I don't know why you've turned into a dick all of a sudden but whatever.

[Kori Ellis]

I don't know why you've turned into a dick all of a sudden but whatever.

I've already addressed it. Just let it go.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

If the Pistons know Rasheed will leave and they risk getting nothing, then they may be willing to trade for expiring contracts, young talent, and some sweetners in multiple draft picks and players' rights.

Here is the thing The Pistons know Sheed will not be back next year and are more then willing to just have 13 Mill in cap space. Joe would be willing to move him if he could end up with an all star player in return. Now maybe there is a third team involved? Why would the third team want to take back SA scraps for an all star?

[DPG21920]

Gig, do you really know a GM?

[Vinnie_Johnson]

I don't know why you've turned into a dick all of a sudden but whatever.

I was just playin easy.

[DPG21920]

Here is the thing The Pistons know Sheed will not be back next year and are more then willing to just have 13 Mill in cap space. Joe would be willing to move him if he could end up with an all star player in return. Now maybe there is a third team involved? Why would the third team want to take back SA scraps for an all star?

A trade with the Spurs does not cost them their cap space. They also would save millions of dollars and get a young project.

[hater]

:lmao :lmao

I can't beleive ppl actually had to think twice about this

[Vinnie_Johnson]

A trade with the Spurs does not cost them their cap space. They also would save millions of dollars and get a young project.

So Fin and Fab deals are up? What young players better be Hill.

[FreeMason]

would you praise obama?

I would bake him cookies and walk his dog.

Can you imagine Sheed and TD! omg omg omg

[NicolasBatum]

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5776/sheedtdhm7.jpg

Just unstoppable !

cry Pau...
cry Kevin...

please do it ! :worthy:

[Pistons < Spurs]

Did they give a name for this source? Or what station he's with?

Our local official Pistons radio carrier was part of the recent clear channel firings, and is now a National show. However one person still employed is Matt 'Diesel' Deary, who does the majority of the Pistons segments. Also does some TV. If he was the source, I'd be likely to believe it ... or some part of it.

If it was Terry Foster, who used to cover the Bad Boys for the paper, and now is on air along with his general sports writings, I's tend to disregard it all now. He's a name dropper, reminiscing about the good ol' days when he covered the Pistons. He's always spewing rumors on the local radio about impeccable sources with the team... ... ...

So I'd be really curious to catch a name if they mention it.

I was listening to the local station all day and night, and this thread is the first I've heard of anything.

And unless Pop for Mike Curry is also part of this trade, there has to be a 3rd team to give this any credibility.

Any trade that gives us Oberto and Fin just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Ian and Tiago are intriguing .... but we already have enough prospects. Amir is still developing. Sharpe is a 3 year project or more. Stuckey and Afflflo, while already established in the rotation, are still projects themselves. Overseas we have Trent Plaisted and Deron Washington.

And acquiring draft picks doesn't make alot of sense as we have 4 in this years draft.

I don't buy it. But I also didn't think Joe would ever trade Billups for Iverson....:bang

Gonna be an interesting week as the deadline approaches.

[ploto]

Here is the thing The Pistons know Sheed will not be back next year and are more then willing to just have 13 Mill in cap space. Joe would be willing to move him if he could end up with an all star player in return.

As long as we trade them contracts that are also going to expire, they can get cash, picks, and players' rights in the deal.

[DazedAndConfused]

For some reason I forgot Tim Duncan was on the Spurs :)

This would be a great trade for the Spurs in every way. They get a post player that can defend Gasol straight up and a big that can stretch the floor, which is probably one of LAL's biggest weaknesses defensively. It would turn the tables on a matchup that favors the Lakers considerably as it stands.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

As long as we trade them contracts that are also going to expire, they can get cash, picks, and players' rights in the deal.

Could be but like Joe has said he is not going to just tank the season.

[DynastyBuilder]

If Bowen was involved his deal is only partially guaranteed for next season...

[DPG21920]

So Fin and Fab deals are up? What young players better be Hill.

Fab is not guaranteed next year. They would also buy guys out either with cash considerations from the Spurs and/or the luxury tax money they get with the deal.

Young guys would be Ian/Tiago

[FreeMason]

Duncan
Manu
Tony
Hill
Sheed

To play out Duncan's career.

[Galileo]

At this pace, this thread will have more posts than the Duncan > Hakeem thread in just 5 hours.

[Sigz]

I would creamjizz if this happened.

[SenorSpur]

If the Spurs got Rasheed Wallace, health pending, just put their name on the damn trophy.

Agreed. I actually thought this move wouldn't occur until the summer. However, if the Spurs pull this off - it's OVER!

Furthermore, it would behoove the Spurs to pull this off, because Sheed's name has been mentioned in all sorts of other possible trade scenarios.

Get it done, RC.

By the way, welcome back Eric (formerly TPark). Wondered what happened to you.

[DPG21920]

Ask Kori...

I was not accusing, just asking.

[hater]

:lol

What is that like a fifth-hand account of the story?

:lol

[FreeMason]

edit: wrong thread

[Spork KIller]

Not even in your wildest dreams dumabasses!

[Jayem2]

spoke to cousin in detroit who listens to sports radio ALL DAy and he said he didn't hear anything about this! so somebody is lying!

i still hope its true though

[SenorSpur]

Not even in your wildest dreams dumabasses!

You should worry less about what the Spurs are doing and more about your setting Suns trying to unload your dumb-ass (Amare) and your fat-ass (Shaq)

[Pistons < Spurs]

and some info that may be important ... Sheed didn't play last night after the 8 or 9 minute mark of the 3rd qtr. He pulled himself out due to pain from the tendinitis in his knee. Curry asked him a number of times to return, and he said he couldn't. I don't think it's a major deal, but you never know.


And while I think Steins comment about Sheed wanting to play in SA has been made bigger than it is, do keep in mind that Billups asked Dumars if he was to be traded, Denver would be the place he'd be happiest. So Joe does take his players desires into consideration.

[DPG21920]

Next logical question, when would the deal go down more than likely?

[DPG21920]

and some info that may be important ... Sheed didn't play last night after the 8 or 9 minute mark of the 3rd qtr. He pulled himself out due to pain from the tendinitis in his knee. Curry asked him a number of times to return, and he said he couldn't. I don't think it's a major deal, but you never know.


And while I think Steins comment about Sheed wanting to play in SA has been made bigger than it is, do keep in mind that Billups asked Dumars if he was to be traded, Denver would be the place he'd be happiest. So Joe does take his players desires into consideration.

That is what I said.

[m33p0]

and some info that may be important ... Sheed didn't play last night after the 8 or 9 minute mark of the 3rd qtr. He pulled himself out due to pain from the tendinitis in his knee. Curry asked him a number of times to return, and he said he couldn't. I don't think it's a major deal, but you never know.


And while I think Steins comment about Sheed wanting to play in SA has been made bigger than it is, do keep in mind that Billups asked Dumars if he was to be traded, Denver would be the place he'd be happiest. So Joe does take his players desires into consideration.

[ducks]

That is what I said.

excuse him for posting something the same

[ducks]

My pants got a little tighter.

go on a diet

[Kori Ellis]

spoke to cousin in detroit who listens to sports radio ALL DAy and he said he didn't hear anything about this! so somebody is lying!

i still hope its true though

It was on SAN ANTONIO sports radio.

[DPG21920]

excuse him for posting something the same

It was more of an agreement, not a "don't post what I already said"

[anakha]

Not even in your wildest dreams dumabasses!

What's a dumabass?

[DPG21920]

What's a dumabass?

a tropical fish?

[ManuTP9]

go on a diet

:lol

[tav1]

On Feb. 6th 09'

''The surprise stems from the rumbles I've heard about Detroit free-agent-to-be Rasheed Wallace, he who is chief among the Pistons unsettled by the realization that big changes are undoubtedly coming in that locker room, having legit interest in joining the Spurs to team up with his 2005 NBA Finals nemesis Tim Duncan.''

http://blog.mlive.com/fullcourtpress/2009/02/espn_rasheed_wallace_wants_to.html
Marc Stein

Don't know if this has been posted in this or the other Wallace thread, just more fuel to the fire.

Chad Ford also said he heard the same rumors, but was a little nonplussed. FWIW: Ford and Joe D. are friends.

[anakha]

spoke to cousin in detroit who listens to sports radio ALL DAy and he said he didn't hear anything about this! so somebody is lying!

i still hope its true though

If this is the same guy, :lmao at your avoidance of your pinkage.

[lefty]

Sheed vs Pop

Now that could be fun

[anakha]

a tropical fish?

Or the result of a Conan "If They Mated" sequence with Dumars and Brandon Bass.

[Biggems]

I have read most of the thread....I cant believe some would want to include Bowen and Mahinmi......

I dont see why Finley, Fab, Horry, and Udoka or Vaughn wouldnt work. Horry rides Detroits bench for a short bit before being bought out and set free to go back to retirement. Finley is released, waits 30 days and re-signs with the Spurs.

[ducks]

manu vs pop is fun at times

[Galileo]

On Feb. 6th 09'

''The surprise stems from the rumbles I've heard about Detroit free-agent-to-be Rasheed Wallace, he who is chief among the Pistons unsettled by the realization that big changes are undoubtedly coming in that locker room, having legit interest in joining the Spurs to team up with his 2005 NBA Finals nemesis Tim Duncan.''

http://blog.mlive.com/fullcourtpress/2009/02/espn_rasheed_wallace_wants_to.html
Marc Stein

Don't know if this has been posted in this or the other Wallace thread, just more fuel to the fire.

Duncan was 'Sheed's nemesis back in the ACC as well.

[DPG21920]

Maybe we will know something more tomorrow.

[SenorSpur]

I have read most of the thread....I cant believe some would want to include Bowen and Mahinmi......

I dont see why Finley, Fab, Horry, and Udoka or Vaughn wouldnt work. Horry rides Detroits bench for a short bit before being bought out and set free to go back to retirement. Finley is released, waits 30 days and re-signs with the Spurs.

Bowen, I'm ok with. He'll likely be coming back, if he's included.

However, if I'm the Spurs I don't include Ian in any trade scenario. We don't know what this kid has yet, and unless they think he's a bust, it would be insane to give up on a super-athletic, young big. They don't grow on trees. Besides, the Spurs have invested 3 years in this kid and they generally draft too obtain such a player in the near future. It would seem they can make this deal work without sacrificing him.

[lefty]

Man, if we get Wallace for nothing.

Not likely to happen, but man.........

That would be a big " In Your Face, Lakers! "

[Lackluster]

yeah, i'd love to hear a pop 'i warned you about ridiculous trades that don't make sense last year' spiel

[SouthTexasRancher]

Sheed and a healthy Manu would put the Lakers in the rear view mirror.

Not to mention the Bawstun Celtics who we will meet and beat in the 2009 NBA Finals!!!

[EricB]

Bowen, I'm ok with. He'll likely be coming back, if he's included.

However, if I'm the Spurs I don't include Ian in any trade scenario. We don't know what this kid has yet, and unless they think he's a bust, it would be insane to give up on a super-athletic, young big. They don't grow on trees. Besides, the Spurs have invested 3 years in this kid and they generally draft too obtain such a player in the near future. It would seem they can make this deal work without sacrificing him.

Eh, I disagree.

I'm pretty much OK with including him in anything.

[Jayem2]

If this is the same guy, :lmao at your avoidance of your pinkage.:lmao at you on my nuts every time i post

[anakha]

:lmao at you on my nuts every time i post

Ah, so you are the same guy.

I fully agree with your pinkage, emo Spurs fan.

[SouthTexasRancher]

I like sheed as much as anyone but for people to buy into this as much as they have is bit ridiculous. Hey I hope I'm wrong.

Well football is over till this summer. The Spurs don't play again until next week and most of us are tired of all the Washington, DC political crap them idiots give us on a daily basis. $30 million to save a mouse in Nancy Pelosi's backyard. Give us a break, bitch!

So yes, you are wrong but, it really don't matter since none of us can make the trade in the first place.

[smrattler]

Wow, this is 14 pages (and counting) of follow up to nothing.

[ducks]

Wow, this is 14 pages (and counting) of follow up to nothing.

and you read all the pages:lol

[EricB]

I wanna apologize for the seeming out of control thread.

I was gonna make a thread to just report what I heard on the show but someone else created one.

Again, I like the Chris and Jason show, they are good people. I think Chris Duel is a reputable guy and wouldn't tell a lie and if he tells me that this guy has inside sources that are legit, and this guy said somethings going down, I'm gonna side with them and believe it. Does it make me gullible? Maybe, but what the hell.

[EricB]

Well football is over till this summer. The Spurs don't play again until next week and most of us are tired of all the Washington, DC political crap them idiots give us on a daily basis. $30 million to save a mouse in Nancy Pelosi's backyard. Give us a break, bitch!

So yes, you are wrong but, it really don't matter since none of us can make the trade in the first place.


Aint politics grand?

[smrattler]

and you read all the pages:lol

And adding to it... here comes page 15.

[Kori Ellis]

I wanna apologize for the seeming out of control thread.

I was gonna make a thread to just report what I heard on the show but someone else created one.

Again, I like the Chris and Jason show, they are good people. I think Chris Duel is a reputable guy and wouldn't tell a lie and if he tells me that this guy has inside sources that are legit, and this guy said somethings going down, I'm gonna side with them and believe it. Does it make me gullible? Maybe, but what the hell.

Why are you apologizing for a thread that is just discussing a rumor that was on the radio? I don't get why this is any different than any other rumor thread and why people are either bashing it or apologizing for it.

It's just a rumor thread of a possible trade scenario. :lol It's not that serious.

[DPG21920]

Aint politics grand?

So obviously no other news. Did they say when they thought a deal would be completed.

[Biggems]

id like to apologize for not having any juicy info worthwhile enough to make yet another rumor thread

[Ginobilirules]

Yes it would work salary wise you guys are all forgetting that the Spurs still have $2.1 mill still remaining in their budget yet to spend, that doesn't even include if they do send both fab and fin for wallace. this would be great""'; if this happens for our spurs, no doubt'' wallace is still bigtime in scoring on any given night, and consistent at threes, too plus he's still mentally tough with very physical d"' and great rebounding skills, also he is a good shot blocker too. and malik hairston would get more playing time if fin leaves too as he would step up and will fit right in as he done when given playing time so far this yr. don't be surprised if the spurs pull this great deal and don't fool yourself, it would be good deal for us mark my word". you'll see.

[SouthTexasRancher]

And the TNT ASSholes, Marv 'Toupeeonhimself' Albert, Reggie 'BigMouth' Miller, and Doug 'Never Shuts Up' Collins just announced the NBA Finals will consist of the Lakers vs. either the Celtics, Cavs or Magic. Them three dipshits never even mentioned the Spurs. No wonder the only job they can get is with the loser network who's top spokesman is Charles 'Three Ton Mouth' Barkley who is on leave to clear up his hemoroids of the mouth.

[mystargtr34]

I cant see how the Spurs could make the Salaries add up, unless the Spurs are putting in Udoka+Fin+Fab+Bowen

Im not sure what Detroit would want with all that trash and a 37 year old Bowen.

[SouthTexasRancher]

hell yeah, i would.

And you are either drunk or stoned, possibly both!

[024]

this was the most excitement i had since when i was the champion of moon landing for two hours.

[DynastyBuilder]

I cant see how the Spurs could make the Salaries add up, unless the Spurs are putting in Udoka+Fin+Fab+Bowen

Im not sure what Detroit would want with all that trash and a 37 year old Bowen.


Expiring contract, expiring contract, non guaranteed next season, partially guaranteed next season... plus we'd have to throw in Splitter's rights and/or Ian

[SouthTexasRancher]

Not even in your wildest dreams dumabasses!

Spork Killer is one of the 8 babies born to that goofball woman who already has 6 kids and no money. No wonder Spork is an Idiot.

[Sec24Row7]

Hakeem > Rasheed?

[SouthTexasRancher]

Aint politics grand?


Yep!!! And if they kept the $200 million for condoms in the bill then everyone in Washington, DC should be sent to Afghanistan in place of our soldiers and make the political idiots do the fighting. Once the fighting has stopped just leave the imbeciles over there to rot!

[mystargtr34]

Expiring contract, expiring contract, non guaranteed next season, partially guaranteed next season... plus we'd have to throw in Splitter's rights and/or Ian

But they would have to pay Bowen $7M (i think) over two years. I can see them throwin in either Mahinmi or Splitter, but it would suck to lose both of them.

[EricB]

Yep!!! And if they kept the $200 million for condoms in the bill then everyone in Washington, DC should be sent to Afghanistan in place of our soldiers and make the political idiots do the fighting. Once the fighting has stopped just leave the imbeciles over there to rot!


Amen.

I'm still wondering how the millions for condoms turns around the economy.

[024]

Carter, 31, has inspired significant interest throughout the league. The San Antonio Spurs are pursuing him and have discussed a proposal that would include Roger Mason, Bruce Bowen and Fabricio Oberto. While the Spurs also have interest in Detroit’s Rasheed Wallace, a Pistons source says the teams have not had any conversations.

saw this on the yahoo sports page. article was written about 20 minutes ago. maybe Wojnarowski is out of the loop but no one is hearing about this.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Au6HkR91LuRgC2FbnEMPBX28vLYF?slug=aw-carternets021209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[SouthTexasRancher]

:lol He grew up fast.

Or his mouth did!

[SouthTexasRancher]

Amen.

I'm still wondering how the millions for condoms turns around the economy.


They could give all the Spurs fans here the $200 million and we'd make sure it got spent and thus help the economy. I could spend a million tomorrow very easily. he,he,he

[hater]

I can't beleive they would be trading Money Mason. I refuse to beleive it

[Kori Ellis]

saw this on the yahoo sports page. article was written about 20 minutes ago. maybe Wojnarowski is out of the loop but no one is hearing about this.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Au6HkR91LuRgC2FbnEMPBX28vLYF?slug=aw-carternets021209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Hopefully the Spurs aren't out shopping Mason.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'll believe it when I see it..typical Spurs shit..we're rumored to get a big name every year..in this year alone, we've been rumored to get Artest, Maggette, and Mutombo..

[EricB]

I'll believe it when I see it..typical Spurs shit..we're rumored to get a big name every year..in this year alone, we've been rumored to get Artest, Maggette, and Mutombo..

Big names are overrated.

Mason >>>>> Maggette

[EricB]

Hopefully the Spurs aren't out shopping Mason.


It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility, but I just can't see them trading Roger Mason. It just doesn't seem like a smart move.

[lefty]

Hopefully the Spurs aren't out shopping Mason.

Spurs won't trade Mason away; you need a clutch shooter to win title, and Mason is fucking super duper mega giga clutch.

Don't worry

[td4mvp21]

Hopefully the Spurs aren't out shopping Mason.

That would just make absolutely no sense to me. He's been great for us this season.

[Ditty]

Hopefully the Spurs aren't out shopping Mason.

they were talkinga bout mason,finley and fab for carter nothing about sheed

[ducks]

they were talkinga bout mason,finley and fab for carter nothing about sheed
with cia pop you never know

[Creation88]

fuck no to Carter.

[Buddy Holly]

WAIT!

Why did TPark change his name?

[Whisky Dog]

The only way I see this happening is if:

1) Detroit really wants to get under the lux and save some money this season, and

2) Rasheed really wants to play for the Spurs, has voiced that to Dumars, and Dumars is willing to grant his wish in exchange for expirings and picks.

If the Spurs pull this off as described and 2 or 3 players all wait the 30 days to all come back to SA, does anyone think the NBA will change that rule in the offseason?

[Kori Ellis]

they were talkinga bout mason,finley and fab for carter nothing about sheed

I know. That's what I was responding to.

[Buddy Holly]

If the Spurs pull this off as described and 2 or 3 players all wait the 30 days to all come back to SA, does anyone think the NBA will change that rule in the offseason?

No.

[mabrignani]

i bet sheed and timmy will be big ballin smashin makin some ends, blowin big killa and gettin high in the benz as soon as sheed arrives on the plane
:hat

[DPG21920]

Well this is going to be the usual trade deadline waiting game.

[usckk]

Haha, this thread reminds me of the epic "Ime Udoka" thread that lasted forever for that summer in anticipation of the free agent signing.

[DPG21920]

Maybe this can be the third team?

OKC Thunder interested in Afflalo and Amir?
Posted by Dave Dial January 06, 2009 16:02PM
Categories: Top Sports

Darnell Mayberry, the beat reporter for the Oklahoma City Thunder, wrote an article Monday listing available Thunder players and players from other NBA teams that would be of interest to Oklahoma City.

January 6, The Oklahoman: It's no secret around the NBA that anyone on the Thunder's roster not named Kevin Durant, Jeff Green or Russell Westbrook can be had for the right price.

Exactly what that asking price is will be made clear over the next six weeks as the Feb. 19 trading deadline nears and deals are consummated. The Thunder, however, will certainly be in the thick of this year's trading flurry as it continues reconstructing its roster.

Oklahoma City is filled with attractive pieces, from players with expiring contracts in Joe Smith, Chris Wilcox and Desmond Mason, to veterans like Nick Collison and Earl Watson who could be valuable additions to playoff teams...

→Detroit: Arron Afflalo and Amir Johnson are young players who fill two pressing needs for the Thunder on the wing and in the post. The Pistons are high on Johnson, but the Thunder could sweeten the deal with a future draft pick.

Joe Dumars likes Amir Johnson a lot, and he also likes Arron Afflalo. It would take the right deal for Joe to think about moving one of those two young Piston players, let alone both of them

A deal sending Amir Johnson, Afflalo and Alex Acker to Oklahoma for Chris Wilcox would work cap-wise, but the Pistons would be giving up too much. Which is probably why Mayberry mentioned the future draft pick. Although for this deal, the pick would have to be a pretty good pick. Wilcox just turned 26 years old and has proved to be a solid big man in the NBA on both ends of the court.

Still, it would leave the Pistons without much help on the bench in the guard department and Detroit would be risking part of their future. Any deal like this would have to convince Joe Dumars that it would put the Pistons over the top and have a good chance at winning the NBA Title this season, and the draft pick protection(or lack thereof) would have to be enticing.

[td4mvp21]

Hmmm and don't we know the Thunder GM....

[duncan228]

WAIT!

Why did TPark change his name?


...the name T Park came with too much of a dark cloud I created, so I did my real name so that I can try and have a better reputation.

[EricB]

:lol

I didn't realize any people gave a crap.

I figured people would be happy that moniker would be gone.

[SpursDynasty]

Tony vs. Manu, who would you rather give up for Sheed?

[smrattler]

Spurs might need to invite a third team to make it work for everyone.

Austin Toros? James.................. WHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[EricB]

Tony vs. Manu, who would you rather give up for Sheed?

Neither.

[DPG21920]

Tony vs. Manu, who would you rather give up for Sheed?

Shhhh.

[Ditty]

all i want to see is a legit source about this trade please ive been talking about this trade all nite to my friends

i can't wait if this does happen

[DPG21920]

Before I go back and read the last 6 pages just answer my question, is there any legit source that the Spurs and Pistons are even talking? Everyone is getting hyped about a few people saying they heard this trade going down but no one who is a elite on this board has said they heard it.

If someone like timvp said they heard this I'd believe it. A user with 39 posts and EricB? Not what I would call a solid source.

Yes. Timvp and Kori confirmed that the soucre was indeed real. EricB is the poster formally known as TPark, so don't be fooled by the post count.

[Whisky Dog]

:lol

I didn't realize any people gave a crap.

I figured people would be happy that moniker would be gone.

You think about what other people think too much. Who cares if people like your screen name or not?

[mystargtr34]

I dont see anything happening with Rasheed until/if Stoudemire is traded. Reports are that Detroit is offering Rasheed + Amir + picks for Amare.

[Ditty]

Yes. Timvp and Kori confirmed that the soucre was indeed real. EricB is the poster formally known as TPark, so don't be fooled by the post count.

your the only one that makes everything about the spurs postitive :toast

no homo

[Buddy Holly]

EricB is the poster formally known as TPark, so don't be fooled by the post count.

But why is he now EricB????

[EricB]

Before I go back and read the last 6 pages just answer my question, is there any legit source that the Spurs and Pistons are even talking? Everyone is getting hyped about a few people saying they heard this trade going down but no one who is a elite on this board has said they heard it.

If someone like timvp said they heard this I'd believe it. A user with 39 posts and EricB? Not what I would call a solid source.

:lol

I'll reiterate it agian.


On the Chris and Jason show today, Chris Duel had a very good friend of his that has VERY good sources apparently within the Detroit organization tell him, that the Spurs and Pistons were "close" ona deal that would ship out Fabricio Oberto and Michael Finley to Detroit and the Spurs would recieve Rasheed Wallace.

This is going off of Chris Duel's personal friend, who IMO is pretty reliable due to he says hes gotten many scoops from before, and IMO chris Duel is a reputable guy who doesn't report BS.

[EricB]

Yes. Timvp and Kori confirmed that the soucre was indeed real. EricB is the poster formally known as TPark, so don't be fooled by the post count.

:lol

T Park had nor still has any sources.

T Park is dead. Gone, buried, ashes thrown into the ocean.

[DPG21920]

But why is he now EricB????

Something about a cloud, crying and fear. Now he uses the name bestowed upon him at birth.

[Manufan909]

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5776/sheedtdhm7.jpg


This is too good to not repost.:king

[DPG21920]

your the only one that makes everything about the spurs postitive :toast

no homo

Thank you, lol.

[spursfan09]

wow so when I wake up tomorrow if this really happens somebody post it in its own thread. I can't dig through this again. :lol

[underdawg]

:lol

I'll reiterate it agian.


On the Chris and Jason show today, Chris Duel had a very good friend of his that has VERY good sources apparently within the Detroit organization tell him, that the Spurs and Pistons were "close" ona deal that would ship out Fabricio Oberto and Michael Finley to Detroit and the Spurs would recieve Rasheed Wallace.

This is going off of Chris Duel's personal friend, who IMO is pretty reliable due to he says hes gotten many scoops from before, and IMO chris Duel is a reputable guy who doesn't report BS.


if this were to happen, wouldn't it go down after the all star break?

[Ditty]

if this were to happen, wouldn't it go down after the all star break?

yah but im pretty sure they'll announce it by the trade deadline

[ploto]

...the name T Park came with too much of a dark cloud I created, so I did my real name so that I can try and have a better reputation.
How's that working?


I don't know why you've turned into a dick all of a sudden but whatever.

Get the fuck out of here.

Buy a fucking clue.

Whats the fucking point?

You want to whack off to the next great white hype? go ahead.

You are a feisty retard aren'tcha.

Bryan pardon me.

Got him confused with his retarded father who f'ed up the USA basketball team.

I say this in the nicest way.

Your a fucking idiot.

[jermaine]

I cant find that anywhere. I would cry if they trade Oberto & Fin-Dawg! Tears of Joy that is.

[Kindergarten Cop]

if this were to happen, wouldn't it go down after the all star break?

Not necessarily, but it would be wise from the Pistons' standpoint. The longer this info floats, the more opportunities for other teams to try to come up with a better deal.

[DPG21920]

Wallace on the Spurs =4pXfHLUlZf4

[SA210]

We better not lose Bruce! It's bad enough he doesn't start anymore.

[hater]

How's that working?

:lmao

exactly what I was thinking. The problem is not the username TPark, it's the poster :lol

[Ditty]

i would hope that we can give the udoku and spliiter and vaughn also and hoepfully finley can get bought out

[SA210]

Wallace on the Spurs =4pXfHLUlZf4


:lol

[Ditty]

Wallace on the Spurs =4pXfHLUlZf4

i thought it was going to be that rick and rolling crap :lol

[weebo]

If its coming from Tpark, it must be true.:lol

[DPG21920]

Sheed gets traded to the Spurs and I jizz in my pants

[Ice009]

The only way I see this happening is if:

1) Detroit really wants to get under the lux and save some money this season, and

2) Rasheed really wants to play for the Spurs, has voiced that to Dumars, and Dumars is willing to grant his wish in exchange for expirings and picks.

If the Spurs pull this off as described and 2 or 3 players all wait the 30 days to all come back to SA, does anyone think the NBA will change that rule in the offseason?

Well doesn't Detroit owe Rasheed one because if he didn't refuse to play for Atlanta they may never have gotten him in the first place. The Pistons should try and accommodate him by trading him to a team he wants to play for like they did Billups.

[Manufan909]

Wallace on the Spurs =4pXfHLUlZf4

Fuck, I can't see this!!!!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

if its coming from tpark, it must be true.:lol

dam you commies!!!!

[Jmoney]

If this goes down I see us losing some draft picks for the next few years in the 1st or 2nd rounds.

[Ditty]

i could see sheed's spurs vs billups nuggets's in the second round this year

[spursfan09]

now i can't sleep
too cited!

[DPG21920]

If it is true with the Thunder that would be perfect. They have the draft picks and some solid rotational guys to be the third team. That would be the absolute best chance the Spurs have.

[carlos c]

Why would pistons trade Rasheed for expiring contracts when he's a free agent this summer? There's no value for them. They're just using the Spurs to get a better deal from other teams.

[DPG21920]

if this were to happen, wouldn't it go down after the all star break?

Its weird because a few people have asked this, but no one really responds.

[tomtom]

im too excited to be skeptical!

[DPG21920]

Why would pistons trade Rasheed for expiring contracts when he's a free agent this summer? There's no value for them. They're just using the Spurs to get a better deal from other teams.

Because if they can keep their cap space and get a young player and draft picks and save millions of dollars in this tight economy, that is better.

[Joe Schmoogins]

Sheed gets traded to the Spurs and I jizz in my pants

tmi

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

now i can't sleep
too cited!

I wouldn't be, when someone on a message board who loves hearing himself talk keeps raving about a trade a "very reliable inside source" is talking about, the trade never happens.

[spursfan09]

I wouldn't be, when someone on a message board who loves hearing himself talk keeps raving about a trade a "very reliable inside source" is talking about, the trade never happens.


true.

[Ditty]

Why would pistons trade Rasheed for expiring contracts when he's a free agent this summer? There's no value for them. They're just using the Spurs to get a better deal from other teams.

they want expiring contracts so they go after a carlos boozer or any other big man this year they are pretty sure wallace will walk this summer so mite as well get something in return but i dont believe it will be finley and oberto that would be a bigger steal then the gasol trade i say even bonner and splitter might be in the trade

[DPG21920]

I wouldn't be, when someone on a message board who loves hearing himself talk keeps raving about a trade a "very reliable inside source" is talking about, the trade never happens.

To be fair, he was not raving. The source was a well known local sports radio personality and he was just reporting what he heard.

[HarlemHeat37]

If it is true with the Thunder that would be perfect. They have the draft picks and some solid rotational guys to be the third team. That would be the absolute best chance the Spurs have.

I'm thinking the exact same thing..getting a team that has a "relationship" with the Spurs helps us tremendously, especially when it's a rebuilding team..Oklahoma already has their core, and they'll be getting another lottery pick this year as well, so they don't have much to lose right now..

it's still too good to be true though, so I'll wait before I get excited..it's just too convenient that the rumor is that we're getting Duncan's PERFECT compliment, who just happens to be a PERFECT fit against the Lakers..

if we can trade Finley and keep him away from Pop, that's even better too.....kidding, of course:lol

[Borosai]

I just got off the phone with my contact in Detroit. I can't tell you guys his name, but he's high up... and his last name rhymes with Doomahrz (silent 'h'). Anyway, he said to keep reading this thread, because in the end, something definitely might or might not happen... maybe. So we'll just have to wait and see.

Not my words.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Billups is going to convince the Nuggets FO to go back into luxury tax for Sheed :smokin

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

To be fair, he was not raving. The source was a well known local sports radio personality and he was just reporting what he heard.

Then my bad. Still, it seems like trades that happen rarely have a whole bunch of build up, no one hears about them prior to them happening.

[Buddy Holly]

To quote what someone once said at SpursReport.com, this guy was super insider...

A trade is likely to happen. But things can happen and the trade could end up not happening.

:lol

[DPG21920]

Then my bad. Still, it seems like trades that happen rarely have a whole bunch of build up, no one hears about them prior to them happening.

I agree with that. But it is still exciting to talk about, especially when anyone of importance says something on the radio.

[Manufan909]

I just got off the phone with my contact in Detroit. I can't tell you guys his name, but he's high up... and his last name rhymes with Doomahrz (silent 'h'). Anyway, he said to keep reading this thread, because in the end, something definitely might or might not happen... maybe. So we'll just have to wait and see.

Not my words.

Hey Borosai, what's your av from?

[Borosai]

Hey Borosai, what's your av from?

"Zack and Miri Make a Porno"

[Manufan909]

That scene looks HILARIOUS!!!:lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I agree with that. But it is still exciting to talk about, especially when anyone of importance says something on the radio.

I'll bet it is, Timmy Tony Manu & Sheed is a scary prospect for the rest of the league.

I know there are plenty of KT haters on this board, but having KT as your 3rd best interior defender is a huge luxury, especially against a team with Bynum Gasol and Odom.

Sheed KT
Timmy Bonner
Bowen Finley
Mason Manu
Parker Hill

That ain't bad :lol

[angelbelow]

wow i have an important case study due tomorrow but im going tor read thru everything.

[HarlemHeat37]

Kurt Thomas would easily be one of the best bench big men in the NBA, same with Bonner..that's what makes acquiring a legit starting big even better..

[DazedAndConfused]

Like everyone else has said, what's the value for DET?

The team they have is good enough to make the playoffs and generate some nice playoff revenue for the franchise. Sheed will walk next in the offseason, they get the capspace they want.

[HarlemHeat37]

the key to this trade will be the Thunder IMO..

as for trading Sheed..Detroit is going to make the playoffs either way, so I don't think the revenue is an issue at all..it's also possible that Sheed has demanded a trade behind the scenes, and they'll take expiring contracts for him, which would be the same as losing him..

I don't think the Pistons would take our offer without getting something from OKC as well, or without Sheed saying something to management..our deal isn't that good for them, unless they're high on Mahinmi, or if they believe Splitter will eventually join them..

I just don't see this trade going down..

[ManuTP9]

Sheed for Bonner

[Austin_Toros]

if the salaries worked out, i wouldn't be surprised if a deal went down

[jdiggy0424]

hopefully its works

if not ur banned

[DPG21920]

Like everyone else has said, what's the value for DET?

The team they have is good enough to make the playoffs and generate some nice playoff revenue for the franchise. Sheed will walk next in the offseason, they get the capspace they want.

Because they can keep their cap space + gain 5 million dollars cash (instead of paying 2 million, they avoid the luxury tax and get 3 million)

[DynastyBuilder]

It also gives Amir and Maxiell more court time. see Stuckey, Rodney

[wisnub]

Sheed for Bonner

Might be surprising but I like Bonner, he averaged more than Sheed in couple of last games and he is much younger (still developing). Best scenario is: Finley,Oberto, Bowen for Sheed

[byrdman31]

18 pages!

[TDMVPDPOY]

and his last name rhymes with Doomahrz (silent 'h').
Not my words.

google DU MA.....and tell me what you get

[Baseline]

Don't you think Dumars is thinking that a Stuckey/George Hill backcourt in Detroit would bring back the Isaiah/Dumars days?

I think he might require Hill to be part of the deal. I'm sure the Spurs are against it, but it's an interesting thought for the Pistons, and something the Spurs have to strongly consider.

Hill has been really good for us, but he's a backup PG. So, may be a big decision.

[crc21209]

Oh my god I get home and I get home to this! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease happen! Please! Sheed!

[TDMVPDPOY]

Hill has been really good for us, but he's a backup PG. So, may be a big decision.

do you want us to waste another draft pick looking for a PG in the draft? im tired of this bs looking for a backup for the last few years, here we have a bonafide backup that could contribute.

[hater]

stop dreaming. wake the fuck up. The Gasol trade happens once in a lifetime

Pistons are not going to give us Sheed for free

[xellos88330]

:bang Damnit. Now I cannot sleep! This Sheed business is driving me insane!!! :bang

[justinandimcool]

stop dreaming. wake the fuck up. The Gasol trade happens once in a lifetime

Pistons are not going to give us Sheed for free

Doesn't even have to be for free.

Losing Hill and/or Bowen/KT wouldn't be too devastating.

Hell, losing Manu for Sheed and another impact player wouldn't sadden me, though I'm probably in the minority on that one.

Just do it R.C.

[hater]

gimme a break. we are not letting Hill go. Pop would not allow it.

Bowen/KT, that would still be Sheed for free

[Amuseddaysleeper]

This is a pipe dream.

[xellos88330]

I have a question. (Sorry if you all think it is a stupid question.)

If a Sheed trade (ala Gasol) goes down, do you think the league would take action on trades like this from here on out? It could start a trend and make basketball less entertaining. Maybe they can set up a player rating system on top of the salary cap to keep the balance of power even. What do you all think?

[pawe]

I have a question. (Sorry if you all think it is a stupid question.)

If a Sheed trade (ala Gasol) goes down, do you think the league would take action on trades like this from here on out? It could start a trend and make basketball less entertaining. Maybe they can set up a player rating system on top of the salary cap to keep the balance of power even. What do you all think?

I think the league would take action first on the "player buyout then resign with the old team after 30 days rule".

[rayray2k8]

19 pages.. Wtf??
I think that article the the dude posted earlier from stein, might have triggered this.
Just my guess..
Nothing but smoke being blown up your asses.

[crc21209]

Any further developments on 1250?

[The Truth #6]

19 pages.. Wtf??
I think that article the the dude posted earlier from stein, might have triggered this.
Just my guess..
Nothing but smoke being blown up your asses.

I wonder if this thread triggered Stein.

[crc21209]

So....I live 3 hours away from S.A. in Del Rio and hardly listen to Chris Duel or ESPN Radio in S.A., so from everyone on here....is this guy a credible source or the station a credible source to at least give me SOME hope? lol.

[Baseline]

I have a question. (Sorry if you all think it is a stupid question.)

If a Sheed trade (ala Gasol) goes down, do you think the league would take action on trades like this from here on out? It could start a trend and make basketball less entertaining. Maybe they can set up a player rating system on top of the salary cap to keep the balance of power even. What do you all think?

It's a totally legit question. But we got the answer last year when the Gasol trade (the most losided, nonsensical trade in the history of the League) went down without a peep from Stern. It was so dirty that even Popovich said something about it.

The problem is that Stern wants the big market to teams to go deep in the playoffs, so if an incredibly stupid trade helps a team like the Lakers, Knicks, or Bulls, the league won't say anything.

This is why I would be so ecstatic if we were able to get Sheed. I would be surprised, but very pleasantly so. And frankly it would restore a portion of the faith that I lost in the League after watching such injustices as the Fisher shot being allowed to count, the foul against Barry not being called, the Gasol trade, etc.

[E20]

I didn't evne bother to read any posts. Just gonna say LOL.

[stéphane]

wow 25pages? seriously...

[Yorae]

25? I'm just seeing 19....

[completely deck]

I didn't evne bother to read any posts. Just gonna say LOL.

sweet tell us more

[Streakyshooter08]

Urhg... as I saw the 19 pages I was a little excited, because I thought there might be some truth or even the possibility that something happend/ will happen. Right now I don't see this as anything else than a pipe dream... :pctoss

[Ditty]

well lets call it a night

i have a strange feeling something is going to go down on monday

mark my word

[Kori Ellis]

I'm not sure why you all are reading the first post, then skipping to the end of the thread and ripping the original poster for making things up.

The original poster is only repeating what was said on Chris Duel's show on ESPN Radio. Duel had a source on his show on Thursday with connection to the Pistons who said that the Spurs were talking about a deal with the Pistons that involved Finley and Fab (PLUS MORE) for Rasheed. A third team or multiple other players from the Spurs would be involved.

So, please, stop jumping to the end of the thread and ripping the guy who started the thread. He's just the messenger repeating what was on local radio. As with all trade rumors, it's just a rumor for now.

[Spork KIller]

Billups is going to convince the Nuggets FO to go back into luxury tax for Sheed :smokin

There are more chances of Denver landing Rasheed than the cheap ass spurms..

Damn! I'm willing to banish myself for life from this filthy place if the spurms land Rasheed..

Which means NEVER!! hahaha :lol

[crc21209]

Kori, do you think that Chris Duel or ESPN1250 would bring it up for nothing though? Do you think there MIGHT be SOME truth to it?

[Spork KIller]

Kori, do you think that Chris Duel or ESPN1250 would bring it up for nothing though? Do you think there MIGHT be SOME truth to it?

No! dumbass

[rayray2k8]

This is like Maggette all over again. What a waste of time..
and yes, the stein article triggered this.
Some idiot looked into the fact that this was mentioned and Sheed
even saying that he would like to be traded to San Antonio, is the result of
this thread...
Again, all this shit over a "rumor". :rolleyes

[Kori Ellis]

This is like Maggette all over again. What a waste of time..
and yes, the stein article triggered this.
Some idiot looked into the fact that this was mentioned and Sheed
even saying that he would like to be traded to San Antonio, is the result of
this thread...
Again, all this shit over a "rumor". :rolleyes

:lol I'm not sure what your problem is. Everyone is saying it's just a rumor. A rumor that came from someone in the Pistons organization talking to a source of Chris Duel's. And then that source coming on ESPN radio and talking about it. It's just a trade rumor like the other 100's in the forum. I'm not sure why you are so upset about it or rolling your eyes.

And umm.. the Spurs were trying to get Maggette. Pop has mentioned that several times.

[SAntonio!]

I'm not sure why you all are reading the first post, then skipping to the end of the thread and ripping the original poster for making things up.

The original poster is only repeating what was said on Chris Duel's show on ESPN Radio. Duel had a source on his show on Thursday with connection to the Pistons who said that the Spurs were talking about a deal with the Pistons that involved Finley and Fab (PLUS MORE) for Rasheed. A third team or multiple other players from the Spurs would be involved.

So, please, stop jumping to the end of the thread and ripping the guy who started the thread. He's just the messenger repeating what was on local radio. As with all trade rumors, it's just a rumor for now.

Thanks Kori. I don't understand why people on this board have to be so rude and quick to bash. Were all spurs fans here. Geez people.

[rayray2k8]

"Were" is the keyword..
We all know how that turned out.. Thank god. :lol

I honestly don't care about this "rumor", or if the spurs actually do somehow pull this off.
But if there were talks, you'd think the spurs would have to insert 1 of our big 3.
So this trade wouldnt work out...
There! That's it, no more!

[Manufan909]

If this makes 40 pgs or more ad it doesn't happen, I will :lol, and then :depressed.

[Kori Ellis]

"Were" is the keyword..
We all know how that turned out.. Thank god. :lol

I honestly don't care about this "rumor", or if the spurs actually do somehow pull this off.
But if there were talks, you'd think the spurs would have to insert 1 of our big 3.
So this trade wouldnt work out...
There! That's it, no more!

If you don't care about this rumor, why do you keep posting in the thread? :lol That's what I'm not understanding . If it's "wasting your time", why I are you here?

And yes, it's been mentioned throughout this thread that the Spurs would have to include much more to get Rasheed (probably Manu) or a third team be involved and multiple other players. You aren't making any revelations by coming into a thread bashing it about how it's wasting your time and won't happen. No one is saying it WILL happen. It's just a discussion of a rumor. I don't get how it's bothering you so much. :lmao

[tp2021]

This is like Maggette all over again. What a waste of time..

I wouldn't say so. Free agency and trades are 2 totally different creatures. The Spurs get spurned on the FA market because they aren't going to overspend on a player, and FAs go where the money is. In a trade like this, it has already been mentioned that Sheed has said he would like to be a part of the Spurs. Plus:

And while I think Steins comment about Sheed wanting to play in SA has been made bigger than it is, do keep in mind that Billups asked Dumars if he was to be traded, Denver would be the place he'd be happiest. So Joe does take his players desires into consideration.

Some fans just like to guess that nothing will happen, since most of the time the Spurs don't do major trades, so they can say they were right later. Ever considered that Pop and the FO are gearing a bit towards win-now mode while Tim has good years left in him, and are trying to convince Holt and the board to shoulder some extra cost for a better chance at more trophies?

Besides, nobody said it was true. Its just a very real possibility.

[DannyT]

i love you kori

[rayray2k8]

Thanks Kori. I don't understand why people on this board have to be so rude and quick to bash. Were all spurs fans here. Geez people.

Rude??
I'm being realistic. :huh

Till there's a source on this story or comments from both teams, it's all just speculation on our parts..
It just bugs me to see how some people in here are going a bit overboard with this.
We wait till the trade deadline comes and goes..
Hopefully with another big on our squad...
Sheed or no Sheed.

[tp2021]

Tell there's a source on this story or comments from both teams, it's all just speculation on our parts..

1.)There is a source. Thats how this started (and yet you still treat it as nothing more than speculation)
2.)why would either team talk about a trade until it is being finalized?

What else is there to do but speculate? Whats there to say one of the posters here can't come up with something that makes sense? Its a Spurs board, we talk Spurs, and if it makes you want to roll your eyes that much, why are you reading a thread all about annoying speculation?

[rayray2k8]

God I love how you guys are jumping one me. lol
I'd make a good troll. XD

[Kori Ellis]

God I love how you guys are jumping one me. lol
I'd make a good troll. XD

Why are you here? This rumor is wasting your time. Move along :lol

[tp2021]

Kori, how the hell are you not passed out right now?

[rayray2k8]

Not just my time.. Everyone elses as well. :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes
:lol

[Kori Ellis]

Kori, how the hell are you not passed out right now?

I just woke up from a 2 hour nap. Now I'm going to work for 3 hours, then go back to sleep.

[Cry Havoc]

I just strolled over to the Pistons board.... and saw this:



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Coincidence? :lol

[thekingrobert]

doesnt wallace make 13 mil a year and why is no one mentioning the Spurs trade exception

[Cry Havoc]

Even without Sheed, I like our chances this year. We only have to beat two elite teams, the Lakers, and whoever comes out of the East. I have to think if Manu is healthy, + Bonner playing like he is, + Mason being on fiyah for the course of the season means the Spurs aren't going down in fewer than 7 games this year.

IF (big if) we get Sheed.... shoot, would any team be able to last 6 against us?

Parker >>> Fisher
Manu << Kobe
Bowen < Odom
Duncan >>>> Bynum
Sheed = Gasol

I like those odds. And Sheed would absolutely obliterate Gasol's production. He would be lucky to average 8-10 ppg for the series. Not to mention the rebounding help Sheed would bring.

Pistons are instantly my 2nd favorite team if this happens.

As far as trading Splitter/Ian, honestly, how do you NOT make that trade? You build teams to win championships. Sheed would give us fantastic odds to do that this year (as opposed to just good). We would have a massive matchup advantage over any team in the league except the Lakers, where we would still hold a sizable edge (Sheed would be great to help crush through the first two rounds of the West, and be awesome against the Celtics if we made the finals as well).

You make trades to win titles. Sheed would most likely do that. I can't see any of our Euro prospects doing that in the near future.

[thekingrobert]

since im a Tar Heel fan ive always been a Sheed fan and he fits or offensive and defensive need

[tp2021]

doesnt wallace make 13 mil a year and why is no one mentioning the Spurs trade exception

It expired on Oct. 29th, and was only worth $1.847 million. There was a thread about it.

[thekingrobert]

It expired on Oct. 29th, and was only worth $1.847 million. There was a thread about it.

thanks and my bad....what a waste

[Manufan909]

I'd prefer to lose Tau over Ian, especially since the Pistons are in the East. If he's the starting C and they beat the Spurs in the Finals, that's the only way I'll be pissed.

[tp2021]

I'd prefer to lose Tau over Ian, especially since the Pistons are in the East. If he's the starting C and they beat the Spurs in the Finals, that's the only way I'll be pissed.

You mean Tiago?

[venitian navigator]

Just a thought.
If, for one year, we're not afraid to pay the lux-tax, why don't we sign and trade Horry for the entire amount (minus the necessary amount for put Detroit under the lux - tax) of Wallace and put on the three milllions and a pair of 2 draft choices or "other names"?
We have some "euro" names...at the moment the best value we have are the rifghts of Splitter and Javtokas...and none of them is good for a signing this season.
However, I think Javtokas is plaiyng really well and his name coukld be the one of more interest, also for his style of game, for the Pistons...

[Winters]

a rumor = a lie

[mystargtr34]

I'd prefer to lose Tau over Ian, especially since the Pistons are in the East. If he's the starting C and they beat the Spurs in the Finals, that's the only way I'll be pissed.

Splitter >>> Mahinmi.

Theres a good chance, with a updated CBA in place, that Splitter comes over in 2010. But for a chance to win now, id put him in the Wallace deal without much hesitation.