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timvp
07-01-2009, 04:08 PM
The Spurs' push for Wallace will likely only include phone calls from Duncan and Pop with an invite to San Antonio. No big splash is needed. Wallace can see the gaping bigman hole on the Spurs and can clearly see how and where he'd fit in.
crc21209
07-01-2009, 04:08 PM
The reports today indicate the C's being more aggressive in communicating their contact with Sheed to the media.
The Spurs are not an open book.
Relax.
+1. This..is very true. For all we know the "media" is hyping Sheed to Boston because thats exactly what the media wants.
xtremesteven33
07-01-2009, 04:09 PM
Spurs are the hardest team to read when it comes to what player they are pursuing and how they are doing it.
Relax people.......
Spurs Brazil
07-01-2009, 04:10 PM
Celtics continue to recruit Wallace
Here’s how badly the Boston Celtics believe Rasheed Wallace(notes) can be the difference in winning an 18th NBA championship next season: Coach Doc Rivers and the Big Three were planning a recruiting trip to woo him, possibly as early as Wednesday afternoon, league sources said.
The Celtics are targeting Wallace with the midlevel exception and sources say the team – which could be willing to pay a steep luxury tax – is also pursuing Phoenix’s Grant Hill(notes). Sources say that Celtics management met with Wallace late last night, and that they would be followed with a visit from the coach, as well Kevin Garnett(notes), Paul Pierce(notes) and Ray Allen(notes). Garnett and Wallace have a close relationship.
Boston officials are convinced that these next 24 to 48 hours are critical in overtaking the Cleveland Cavaliers and Orlando Magic in the Eastern Conference, and eventually, the defending champion Los Angeles Lakers.
Wallace, who turns 35 in September, is the free agent power forward that most of the contenders covet, including Cleveland, Orlando, San Antonio and Dallas.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aj0iFwmDtqFuqMDVm35v0CbTjdIF?slug=aw-celticswallace070109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Extra Stout
07-01-2009, 04:11 PM
+1. This..is very true. For all we know the "media" is hyping Sheed to Boston because thats exactly what the media wants.
Note that the "Odom to SA!!!" rumor, which is economically impossible, is all over L.A. media today. They have their own agenda.
xtremesteven33
07-01-2009, 04:11 PM
Duncan/Pop: "Four rings bitch..."
crc21209
07-01-2009, 04:12 PM
Celtics continue to recruit Wallace
Here’s how badly the Boston Celtics believe Rasheed Wallace(notes) can be the difference in winning an 18th NBA championship next season: Coach Doc Rivers and the Big Three were planning a recruiting trip to woo him, possibly as early as Wednesday afternoon, league sources said.
The Celtics are targeting Wallace with the midlevel exception and sources say the team – which could be willing to pay a steep luxury tax – is also pursuing Phoenix’s Grant Hill(notes). Sources say that Celtics management met with Wallace late last night, and that they would be followed with a visit from the coach, as well Kevin Garnett(notes), Paul Pierce(notes) and Ray Allen(notes). Garnett and Wallace have a close relationship.
Boston officials are convinced that these next 24 to 48 hours are critical in overtaking the Cleveland Cavaliers and Orlando Magic in the Eastern Conference, and eventually, the defending champion Los Angeles Lakers.
Wallace, who turns 35 in September, is the free agent power forward that most of the contenders covet, including Cleveland, Orlando, San Antonio and Dallas.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aj0iFwmDtqFuqMDVm35v0CbTjdIF?slug=aw-celticswallace070109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Pop > Doc
Starting spot > Bench spot
Our big 3 + RJ > Boston's big 3 (Ours is younger as well)
Muser
07-01-2009, 04:13 PM
Duncan/Pop: "Four rings bitch..."
Dude, we're in competition with the Celtics, ring comparisons won't win it for us :lol
4RINGS
07-01-2009, 04:15 PM
Celtics continue to recruit Wallace
Here’s how badly the Boston Celtics believe Rasheed Wallace(notes) can be the difference in winning an 18th NBA championship next season: Coach Doc Rivers and the Big Three were planning a recruiting trip to woo him, possibly as early as Wednesday afternoon, league sources said.
The Celtics are targeting Wallace with the midlevel exception and sources say the team – which could be willing to pay a steep luxury tax – is also pursuing Phoenix’s Grant Hill(notes). Sources say that Celtics management met with Wallace late last night, and that they would be followed with a visit from the coach, as well Kevin Garnett(notes), Paul Pierce(notes) and Ray Allen(notes). Garnett and Wallace have a close relationship.
Boston officials are convinced that these next 24 to 48 hours are critical in overtaking the Cleveland Cavaliers and Orlando Magic in the Eastern Conference, and eventually, the defending champion Los Angeles Lakers.
Wallace, who turns 35 in September, is the free agent power forward that most of the contenders covet, including Cleveland, Orlando, San Antonio and Dallas.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aj0iFwmDtqFuqMDVm35v0CbTjdIF?slug=aw-celticswallace070109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Stop :stirpot:
timvp
07-01-2009, 04:16 PM
One thing Boston has over San Antonio is that Sheed is an East Coast guy.
But I'm don't see Sheed as that good of a fit with the Celtics. With Sheed and KG combined, you'll have two bigs who don't like posting up and who'd rather shoot from the perimeter.
crc21209
07-01-2009, 04:18 PM
One thing Boston has over San Antonio is that Sheed is an East Coast guy.
But I'm don't see Sheed as that good of a fit with the Celtics. With Sheed and KG combined, you'll have two bigs who don't like posting up and who'd rather shoot from the perimeter.
I still read somewhere that Sheed isnt so sure about the ego's up in Boston and the "Rondo situation." That being said, Sheed's starting spot is waiting for him here! In Boston he'll just be a bench guy. Like I said before....
Pop > Doc
Duncan > KG
Our big 3 + RJ > their big 3 (younger as well)
Starting spot > bench role
4RINGS
07-01-2009, 04:19 PM
One thing Boston has over San Antonio is that Sheed is an East Coast guy.
But I'm don't see Sheed as that good of a fit with the Celtics. With Sheed and KG combined, you'll have two bigs who don't like posting up and who'd rather shoot from the perimeter.
Spot on, they will both be taking 18' jumpers and Perkins will have to do all of the dirty work.
Extra Stout
07-01-2009, 04:20 PM
One other thing to note is that Rasheed Wallace will not be reading this forum in order to help him weigh his decision, and we know sufficiently little about him to gauge his personal priorities.
One thing Boston has over San Antonio is that Sheed is an East Coast guy.
But I'm don't see Sheed as that good of a fit with the Celtics. With Sheed and KG combined, you'll have two bigs who don't like posting up and who'd rather shoot from the perimeter.
That opens the middle for Rondo and Pierce to drive though. Both defensive big men have to leave the lane. Pierce and Rondo kill single coverage off the dribble. And Rondo is great dishing out off the drive.
That being said, Sheed's starting spot is waiting for him here! In Boston he'll just be a bench guy. Like I said before....
Our big 3 + RJ > their big 3 (younger as well)
I'm not sure if starting matters to him. Maybe it does.
it's "their big 3" + Rondo
Extra Stout
07-01-2009, 04:34 PM
That opens the middle for Rondo and Pierce to drive though. Both defensive big men have to leave the lane. Pierce and Rondo kill single coverage off the dribble. And Rondo is great dishing out off the drive.Nah, just let Sheed and KG shoot jumpers. They'll hit maximum 50% and never go to the free throw line. Works for me.
crc21209
07-01-2009, 04:36 PM
That opens the middle for Rondo and Pierce to drive though. Both defensive big men have to leave the lane. Pierce and Rondo kill single coverage off the dribble. And Rondo is great dishing out off the drive.
I'm not sure if starting matters to him. Maybe it does.
it's "their big 3" + Rondo
I think it does matter to him. He can make more of an impact in SA and have a bigger role in SA than in Boston. Plus Rondo may not even be there. I mean theres been rumors that hes been being shopped around some and that he has an attitude problem maybe...
Extra Stout
07-01-2009, 04:37 PM
The other wonderful thing about Sheed and KG shooting a bunch of jumpers is that inevitable stretch when clangitis becomes contagious and a team needs easy buckets to get back in a rhythm. Oh, the defense is packing the lane and letting Sheed shoot 18-footers? Clang! Maybe Ray Allen can get hot.
Mavs<Spurs
07-01-2009, 04:39 PM
Dude, we're in competition with the Celtics, ring comparisons won't win it for us :lol
As for Wallace, strap in Spurs’ fans, this will get dicey. It’s believed San Antonio, Orlando and Boston are at the top of the list to land the services of the 4-time All-Star. Despite some reporting the Spurs as the frontrunner, don’t count on it.
Didn’t Corey Maggette have San Antonio at the top of his list last year, too?
That was until Golden State gave him a 5-year deal worth nearly $50 million. Maggette is not quite the scorer that Gordon is but he’s a better all around talent who can play a couple of positions.
Regardless, the Warriors’ offer took the Spurs out of the discussion before settling for Roger Mason.
While Mason was a good value signing, he’s not near the talent of a Corey Maggette. But he was the right price.
With Kevin Garnett personally seeking out Wallace, expect Boston to steal the mercurial power forward forcing San Antonio to plan B, which some speculate will involve Wallace’s Detroit teammate Antonio McDyess. Whether it's plan B, C or D it'll be surprising to see Wallace choose the Spurs over Garnett or Orlando. In either case, he'll make about the same money and play in a much easier conference.
You can take a night off in the East and make the playoffs, the West is a different animal.
Regardless
Argument 1:
It’s believed San Antonio, Orlando and Boston are at the top of the list to land the services of the 4-time All-Star. Despite some reporting the Spurs as the frontrunner, don’t count on it.
Don't count on it. Not much of an argument here. so let's move on.
Argument 2:
Didn’t Corey Maggette have San Antonio at the top of his list last year, too?
That was until Golden State gave him a 5-year deal worth nearly $50 million. Maggette is not quite the scorer that Gordon is but he’s a better all around talent who can play a couple of positions.
Regardless, the Warriors’ offer took the Spurs out of the discussion before settling for Roger Mason.
While Mason was a good value signing, he’s not near the talent of a Corey Maggette. But he was the right price.
Rasheed Wallace = Corey Maggette. This isn't very compelling either. In large part because now, Peter Holt has committed to paying what is necessary to make the Spurs a championship contender now. At that time, he didn't think it was necessary to spend to win. He now does.
Two, Wallace would be a starter for the Spurs.
Three, the other teams aren't likely to offer more for Rasheed Wallace than we are.
So, this argument fails.
Argument 3:
With Kevin Garnett personally seeking out Wallace, expect Boston to steal the mercurial power forward forcing San Antonio to plan B, which some speculate will involve Wallace’s Detroit teammate Antonio McDyess. Whether it's plan B, C or D it'll be surprising to see Wallace choose the Spurs over Garnett or Orlando. In either case, he'll make about the same money and play in a much easier conference.
You can take a night off in the East and make the playoffs, the West is a different animal.
Assumptions in this assertion:
(a) KG's impact is greater than Tim Duncan's, (b) Pop's influence is less than Doc Rivers, (c) the East is less than the West, and (d) Rasheed is afraid of competition.
None of a-d is certain, most of them are dubious at best. So, since the supporting claims for argument 3 are simply assertions, argument 3 is really simply an assertion.
Argument 4: Regardless.
This argument gets to the nuts and bolts of the discussion. I can't prove my assertions, the writer says, and I just don't like the Spurs.
And that is weak.
At last, the fact (about the writer of the article): I just don't like the Spurs and I can't support my conclusion at all. It's not even convincing to me (the writer).
Fail. Just Fail.
http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww166/Rachel-898/epicfail.jpg
BTW, how many of Boston's titles have been won with any of their big 3 there ?
How many of San Antonio's titles have been won with Tim here ? How many of San Antonio's titles have been won with our big 3 ?
Thank you.
I think that we're done here now.
crc21209
07-01-2009, 04:40 PM
The other wonderful thing about Sheed and KG shooting a bunch of jumpers is that inevitable stretch when clangitis becomes contagious and a team needs easy buckets to get back in a rhythm. Oh, the defense is packing the lane and letting Sheed shoot 18-footers? Clang! Maybe Ray Allen can get hot.
Very true. KG isnt a post player anymore. Everyone re-watch the 08' Finals and notice he just roamed around the perimeter. Sheed would probably do the same there. The only one who takes it to the hole is Rondo and Pierce sometimes. Here TP, Manu, and now RJ will take it to the hole to open up Sheed and TD. :tu
Muser
07-01-2009, 04:43 PM
As for Wallace, strap in Spurs’ fans, this will get dicey. It’s believed San Antonio, Orlando and Boston are at the top of the list to land the services of the 4-time All-Star. Despite some reporting the Spurs as the frontrunner, don’t count on it.
Didn’t Corey Maggette have San Antonio at the top of his list last year, too?
That was until Golden State gave him a 5-year deal worth nearly $50 million. Maggette is not quite the scorer that Gordon is but he’s a better all around talent who can play a couple of positions.
Regardless, the Warriors’ offer took the Spurs out of the discussion before settling for Roger Mason.
While Mason was a good value signing, he’s not near the talent of a Corey Maggette. But he was the right price.
With Kevin Garnett personally seeking out Wallace, expect Boston to steal the mercurial power forward forcing San Antonio to plan B, which some speculate will involve Wallace’s Detroit teammate Antonio McDyess. Whether it's plan B, C or D it'll be surprising to see Wallace choose the Spurs over Garnett or Orlando. In either case, he'll make about the same money and play in a much easier conference.
You can take a night off in the East and make the playoffs, the West is a different animal.
Regardless
Argument 1:
It’s believed San Antonio, Orlando and Boston are at the top of the list to land the services of the 4-time All-Star. Despite some reporting the Spurs as the frontrunner, don’t count on it.
Don't count on it. Not much of an argument here. so let's move on.
Argument 2:
Didn’t Corey Maggette have San Antonio at the top of his list last year, too?
That was until Golden State gave him a 5-year deal worth nearly $50 million. Maggette is not quite the scorer that Gordon is but he’s a better all around talent who can play a couple of positions.
Regardless, the Warriors’ offer took the Spurs out of the discussion before settling for Roger Mason.
While Mason was a good value signing, he’s not near the talent of a Corey Maggette. But he was the right price.
Rasheed Wallace = Corey Maggette. This isn't very compelling either. In large part because now, Peter Holt has committed to paying what is necessary to make the Spurs a championship contender now. At that time, he didn't think it was necessary to spend to win. He now does.
Two, Wallace would be a starter for the Spurs.
Three, the other teams aren't likely to offer more for Rasheed Wallace than we are.
So, this argument fails.
Argument 3:
With Kevin Garnett personally seeking out Wallace, expect Boston to steal the mercurial power forward forcing San Antonio to plan B, which some speculate will involve Wallace’s Detroit teammate Antonio McDyess. Whether it's plan B, C or D it'll be surprising to see Wallace choose the Spurs over Garnett or Orlando. In either case, he'll make about the same money and play in a much easier conference.
You can take a night off in the East and make the playoffs, the West is a different animal.
Assumptions in this assertion:
(a) KG's impact is greater than Tim Duncan's, (b) Pop's influence is less than Doc Rivers, (c) the East is less than the West, and (d) Rasheed is afraid of competition.
None of a-d is certain, most of them are dubious at best. So, since the supporting claims for argument 3 are simply assertions, argument 3 is really simply an assertion.
Argument 4: Regardless.
This argument gets to the nuts and bolts of the discussion. I can't prove my assertions, the writer says, and I just don't like the Spurs.
And that is weak.
At last, the fact (about the writer of the article): I just don't like the Spurs and I can't support my conclusion at all. It's not even convincing to me (the writer).
Fail. Just Fail.
http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww166/Rachel-898/epicfail.jpg
BTW, how many of Boston's titles have been won with any of their big 3 there ?
How many of San Antonio's titles have been won with Tim here ? How many of San Antonio's titles have been won with our big 3 ?
Thank you.
I think that we're done here now.
Dude, it's called a joke, you know?
If 'Sheed read this forum...he would have signed with San Antonio already! :rollin
I think it does matter to him. He can make more of an impact in SA and have a bigger role in SA than in Boston. Plus Rondo may not even be there. I mean theres been rumors that hes been being shopped around some and that he has an attitude problem maybe...
I have no idea what will happen. I do know Rasheed won't start in Boston but he will get the same minutes as if he was starting, or the same minutes he would get with the Spurs.
His impact would be the same with either team.
As far as the Rondo stuff- it's all overblown. The Boston media is always in a frenzy and ran with some mild stuff. Rondo's staying. Everybody hugged and made up.
I think San Antonio and Boston would be equally good destinations for Rasheed. The two teams are in remarkably similar positions. I don't see much advantage or disadvantage either way.
If there's a reason he chooses Boston it's because of his close friendship with Garnett. But if he chooses San Antonio I'm sure he'd be successful there as well.
Tully365
07-01-2009, 04:51 PM
Hate to say it, but if I had to bet I'd say Rasheed would rather hang out with Garnett, Pierce, and Allen over Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker. I know he's older and a bit more mature now, but I still think of the strained relationship he had with Sabonis in Portland and how he and Bonzi were the terrible twosome behavior-wise for the Jailblazers era.
Mugen
07-01-2009, 04:53 PM
Hate to say it, but if I had to bet I'd say Rasheed would rather hang out with Garnett, Pierce, and Allen over Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker. I know he's older and a bit more mature now, but I still think of the strained relationship he had with Sabonis in Portland and how he and Bonzi were the terrible twosome behavior-wise for the Jailblazers era.
haha i def think Sheed has more to talk about with the Boston big three than our big three.
and if thats his reason for choosing the Celtics, than good riddance.
crc21209
07-01-2009, 04:56 PM
haha i def think Sheed has more to talk about with the Boston big three than our big three.
and if thats his reason for choosing the Celtics, than good riddance.
I don't think it should come down to that. TD & Sheed are friends as well, He loves Pop as a coach. We got some ballas Sheed can hang with in Mase, Blair, TP, and Mclinton. :lol. Besides, it should come down to where and with who does he think he can play and win with, playing time, and thats about it. Come on Sheed! :lol
ffadicted
07-01-2009, 05:07 PM
I'm not sure if starting matters to him.
:lol:lol
Oblivious Celtics fan
:lol:lol
Oblivious Celtics fan
There's no need for that. I don't know if starting matters to him and neither do you. (Do you?)
The Celtics have a long history of bringing one of their best players off the bench like the Spurs do now with Ginobili. At least four hall of famers have been the Celtics sixth man including Havlicek and McHale.
Maybe Rasheed will insist he starts in which case he'll be a Spur.
Maybe he won't. Maybe it doesn't matter to him as long as he gets the playing time.
Da Spurs
07-01-2009, 05:51 PM
Sheed will go with whoever has the best chance to win a championship. Who is it? Boston or SA? With KG back next year, Boston would have been the obvious choice until the Jefferson trade happened. Now, it's pretty much a deadlock. The East has come back somewhat with Orlando, Cleveland, & Boston all in the mix for next year. The West has LA, Denver, SA, etc.
So it probably boils down now to who he feels most comfortable with. I think he'll still go to Boston. JMHO.
On the plus, the Spurs will then go after a much younger guy who will help the team for years to come. It could work out best in the long run.
quentin_compson
07-01-2009, 07:08 PM
One other thing to note is that Rasheed Wallace will not be reading this forum in order to help him weigh his decision [...]
True, but that would take away any fun you could possibly have on a board like this, wouldn't it?. ;)
It all seems like it is a kind of a difficult situationn. Right now, I'll just hope: I thought the chances of landing Sheed weren't that bad even before the RJ-trade, let alone the chance of being a part of perhaps the best S5 in the league.
I'd be pleased with Dice coming on board as well, of course.
I am confused. Who is Rasheed Wallace best buddies with? Tim Duncan or Kevin Garnett? Both Timmy and KG have "had discussions with their good friend Sheed about coming to their team."
I will cry when this saga is over, regardless of whether sheed ends up with boston or with us.
lefty
07-01-2009, 07:23 PM
I am confused. Who is Rasheed Wallace best buddies with? Tim Duncan or Kevin Garnett? Both Timmy and KG have "had discussions with their good friend Sheed about coming to their team."
I would say Timmy
Every time they are playing against each other, they joke a lot; they seem to have that chemistry (ok, that sounded really gay)
I just don't see Sheed going to the Celtics. This recent push is driven largely by KGs initiative. The C's front office will have a hard time reconciling bring on Sheed for the full MLE with potentially losing both Davis and Powe (at least one). Those players (especially Davis) were important to what the C's do.
As it stands Spurs and C's share a similar cap situation (at or around the 70M mark). Thankfully for us, Davis had a break out season which should command some attention in the open market.
Ice009
07-01-2009, 07:43 PM
Hmm Garnett is pushing hard because he wants no part of Howard. He wants Perkins and Wallace to guard Howard and Shaq so he doesn't have to do jack shit. Straight up pussy KG. Another thing why would Wallace choose Boston when he hasn't even seen KG play a minute of ball since his injury?
Come to SA Rasheed.
From Gary Tanguay (who first reported the Celtics/Rasheed story): Rasheed is going to Boston tomorrow to meet with the Celtics.
http://www.csnne.com/wickedgoodsports/celtics/exclusive-ainge-1-on-1/
lefty
07-01-2009, 07:46 PM
From Gary Tanguay (who first reported the Celtics/Rasheed story): Rasheed is going to Boston tomorrow to meet with the Celtics.
http://www.csnne.com/wickedgoodsports/celtics/exclusive-ainge-1-on-1/
It's just a meeting
holcs50
07-01-2009, 07:48 PM
I agree he would fit in a lot better with the Spurs. Just the way he plays is more helpful to them. KG and Sheed would are two similar bigs that would prefer shoot outside instead of post. I bet you Ainge and Doc are telling sheed he can start over perkins, I mean they are rolling out the red carpet for this 35 year old. Ainge meeting with him after deadline, then all of the big 3 meeting with him, wtf, they think this is the savior for them. I have a hunch he's going to Boston. I won't be all that sad IF we can get mcdyess or another guy that is legit. We'll see but my moneys on boston get him.
SPURSGOAT
07-01-2009, 07:51 PM
From Gary Tanguay (who first reported the Celtics/Rasheed story): Rasheed is going to Boston tomorrow to meet with the Celtics.
http://www.csnne.com/wickedgoodsports/celtics/exclusive-ainge-1-on-1/
uh-oh! :makemyday
Leftyventricle
07-01-2009, 07:51 PM
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/07/report_ainge_li.html
bostonguy
07-01-2009, 07:53 PM
Sheed is toying with the Celts. Watch he will come to visit and act like he wants to join, then will turn around and sign with the Spurs.
benefactor
07-01-2009, 07:54 PM
"The Celtics want him and he wants the Celtics," Tanguay said a couple of nights ago, sounding pretty certain Wallace would land in Boston.
Sounds like some of our reporters when speaking of Corey Maggette last year.
Spursfan092120
07-01-2009, 07:55 PM
Wallace respects Pop, and knows Pop wants him. I don't think Wallace will just sign without meeting with Pop. Could be wrong, but just a thought.
4RINGS
07-01-2009, 07:56 PM
It's just a meeting
I thought Ben Gordon and Charlie V. were just meeting with Joe Dumars today too, but we know what happened. Sheed to Boston, plan B is just around the corner. :depressed
Avitus1
07-01-2009, 07:56 PM
Well I hope that everything works out and we sign him but if we get McDyess that'll be just as good. Boston seems to be going all out but maybe they are just getting more coverage... who knows...
SPURSGOAT
07-01-2009, 07:57 PM
Sheed is toying with the Celts. Watch he will come to visit and act like he wants to join, then will turn around and sign with the Spurs.
LOL! Sheed going to Boston just to be wined and dined on the C's dime; maybe fly on their jet too.. LOL! then will sign with us... :blah
picnroll
07-01-2009, 07:57 PM
If he meets with Rondo and Perkins he'll sign with the Spurs.
bostonguy
07-01-2009, 07:59 PM
LOL! Sheed going to Boston just to be wined and dined on the C's dime; maybe fly on their jet too.. LOL! then will sign with us... :blah
That is what im expecting. Sheed would not only have to come off the bench, he will have to battle it out with Glen Davis on who will get more backup minutes. I just dont see how the situation favors Boston.
Spursmania
07-01-2009, 08:02 PM
Where in that clip does it say Sheed is going to Boston to meet? I fast forwarded a bit. But I thought Ainge said they will be talking to Sheed's people.
Spursmania
07-01-2009, 08:03 PM
If he meets with Rondo and Perkins he'll sign with the Spurs.
:lol
mystargtr34
07-01-2009, 08:06 PM
If he meets with Rondo and Perkins he'll sign with the Spurs.
Could you imagine listening to Kermit the frog calling out plays for the next 3 years? Id sign with the Spurs too.
45 bank shot
07-01-2009, 08:06 PM
That is what im expecting. Sheed would not only have to come off the bench, he will have to battle it out with Glen Davis on who will get more backup minutes. I just dont see how the situation favors Boston.
ye but you never know what will happen in FA.
EricB
07-01-2009, 08:08 PM
Could you imagine listening to Kermit the frog calling out players for the next 3 years? Id sign with the Spurs too.
Wheres Mike Bibby signing?
bigdog
07-01-2009, 08:08 PM
Remember when Kidd met with the Spurs, had a nice little visit, looked like he was going to sign, then ended up back in New Jersey?
That's what Rasheed is going to do to the Celtics (hopefully). He's gonna be treated to a nice meal, tour of the facilities, shown around Boston, and given a contract. Then, he's going to get back on the plane, come to San Antonio, and sign with the Spurs.
kbrury
07-01-2009, 08:09 PM
I like it
phyzik
07-01-2009, 08:09 PM
If Sheed signs with another team, even the Celtics, Im not going to hate on the guy. Despite what we see on the court sometimes, I believe he is an all round great guy and thats been stated many times by his team mates.
I for one would welcome Sheeds attitude on the court for the Spurs. Its something we have been missing since Captain Jack. It would give the Spurs that edge (metephorically speaking as far as toughness and relatively speaking as far as the competition).
People like to pretend the Spurs are saints but I remember countless times Pop getting a Tech just to get the team fired up.
Where in that clip does it say Sheed is going to Boston to meet? I fast forwarded a bit. But I thought Ainge said they will be talking to Sheed's people.
It's written in bold type above the clip: "UPDATE: Sources have told me that Wallace will be in Boston tomorrow to meet with the Celtics."
mystargtr34
07-01-2009, 08:12 PM
Wheres Mike Bibby signing?
He's more Vern Troyer. To me, Rondo sounds exactly like Kermit.
SPURSGOAT
07-01-2009, 08:12 PM
Remember when Kidd met with the Spurs, had a nice little visit, looked like he was going to sign, then ended up back in New Jersey?
That's what Rasheed is going to do to the Celtics (hopefully). He's gonna be treated to a nice meal, tour of the facilities, shown around Boston, and given a contract. Then, he's going to get back on the plane, come to San Antonio, and sign with the Spurs.
Hell yea; I would too... lol! Be treated like a king on another team's dime; even with no intention of signing...
blademaster
07-01-2009, 08:16 PM
Danny Ainge showed up at Sheeds crib at midnight last night to start the ego stroking so he will sign with Boston. Consider this a done deal. Him and KG are very good friends. Sheed in Texas? I just don't see it.
Spursfan092120
07-01-2009, 08:17 PM
Remember when Kidd met with the Spurs, had a nice little visit, looked like he was going to sign, then ended up back in New Jersey?
That's what Rasheed is going to do to the Celtics (hopefully). He's gonna be treated to a nice meal, tour of the facilities, shown around Boston, and given a contract. Then, he's going to get back on the plane, come to San Antonio, and sign with the Spurs.
No better time for these
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Spursfan092120
07-01-2009, 08:18 PM
Danny Ainge showed up at Sheeds crib at midnight last night to start the ego stroking so he will sign with Boston. Consider this a done deal. Him and KG are very good friends. Sheed in Texas? I just don't see it.
Sheed said he wanted to play in warmer weather...not to mention he begged to be traded to San Antonio last year...why do you not see it?
Da Spurs
07-01-2009, 08:20 PM
Danny Ainge showed up at Sheeds crib at midnight last night to start the ego stroking so he will sign with Boston. Consider this a done deal. Him and KG are very good friends. Sheed in Texas? I just don't see it.
That's all bullshit. None of those guys are at their house now. They're out galavanting around while their agents are talking turkey.
SPURSGOAT
07-01-2009, 08:22 PM
Danny Ainge showed up at Sheeds crib at midnight last night to start the ego stroking so he will sign with Boston. Consider this a done deal. Him and KG are very good friends. Sheed in Texas? I just don't see it.
KG, Rivers, Allen, and Pierce have all supposedly been coaxing Sheed since midnight... now going to Boston to do some more partying.... nice...
Spursfan092120
07-01-2009, 08:23 PM
That's all bullshit. None of those guys are at their house now. They're out galavanting around while their agents are talking turkey.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dIk7TSNVXo8/Rg_W1nuSNlI/AAAAAAAAAI4/t_8DjhijF5I/s320/talking+turkey+2.jpg
SPURSGOAT
07-01-2009, 08:24 PM
That's all bullshit. None of those guys are at their house now. They're out galavanting around while their agents are talking turkey.
Yep...haha! Sheed is probably already in Boston hanging/partying with KG and all the rest... :drunk
4RINGS
07-01-2009, 08:25 PM
SHEED OR BUST!!!!
http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.everyjoe.com/nbaobsessed/files/2008/01/rasheed-wallace-pointing.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFj2zgQ-3rsgIGuQKuAGdr4dyv5yg
Report: Rasheed Wallace will meet with Boston Celtics on Thursday
by The Republican Sports Desk Wednesday July 01, 2009, 8:50 PM
http://blog.masslive.com/sports_impact/2009/07/small_PISTONS%20WALLACE.jpgAssociated PressRasheed Wallace of the Detroit Pistons, now a free agent, will meet with Boston Celtics officials on Thursday, according to a report by Comcast SportsNet's Gary Tanguay
Talk about the Boston Celtics (http://www.masslive.com/celtics) being interested Rasheed Wallace heated up Wednesday night when Comcast SportsNet's Gary Tanguay reported that the 6-foot-11 power forward, whose contract with the Detroit Pistons expired after the 2008-09 season, will be in Boston on Thursday to meet with the Celtics.
Earlier on Wednesday, Tanguay met up with Celtics general manager Danny Ainge to ask about the Celtics' draft pick, Lester Hudson (http://www.masslive.com/sports/index.ssf/2009/07/boston_celtics_announce_orland.html?category=Celti cs) out of Tennessee-Martin, and Wallace. Ainge told Tanguay that yes, the Celtics are interested in Wallace.
You can watch the video of the interview by clicking here (http://www.csnne.com/wickedgoodsports/celtics/exclusive-ainge-1-on-1/).
ElNono
07-01-2009, 08:28 PM
Did we invite him to party over here in Texas? Where's Pop or RC in all this?
Spursmania
07-01-2009, 08:28 PM
It's written in bold type above the clip: "UPDATE: Sources have told me that Wallace will be in Boston tomorrow to meet with the Celtics."
My bad-thanks.
DAF86
07-01-2009, 08:29 PM
Sheed, what the fuck is taking you so long? you should know by now what team you wanna play for, just say it allready so I can keep going on with my life!
Spursmania
07-01-2009, 08:29 PM
Sheed is toying with the Celts. Watch he will come to visit and act like he wants to join, then will turn around and sign with the Spurs.
no reverse jinxes please.:hat
VivaPopovich
07-01-2009, 08:35 PM
i really hope Pop can keep that beast tamed
SPURSGOAT
07-01-2009, 08:36 PM
Sheed, what the fuck is taking you so long? you should know by now what team you wanna play for, just say it allready so I can keep going on with my life!
Sheed is in no hurry; he will be wined and dined by us and the Celts then make his decision... I bet he doesn't want to rush being treated like a king... lol! :king
4RINGS
07-01-2009, 08:41 PM
Sheed is in no hurry; he will be wined and dined by us and the Celts then make his decision... I bet he doesn't want to rush being treated like a king... lol! :king
I hope he gives us a chance to wine him and dine him... he may just sign (verbal) with the C's after the meeting ala Ben Gordon and Charlie V. :wow
SPURSGOAT
07-01-2009, 08:41 PM
Did we invite him to party over here in Texas? Where's Pop or RC in all this?
Hmmm! could come down to who can throw him a better party... LOL! :lol:lmao
Spursfan092120
07-01-2009, 08:43 PM
I hope he gives us a chance to wine him and dine him... he may just sign (verbal) with the C's after the meeting ala Ben Gordon and Charlie V. :wow
If we have a chance, we would probably have the advantage. When players actually give us the opportunity and come down here, it usually works. The Riverwalk, Pop, the city of San Antonio, the friendly people in Texas...it's usually a good omen.
robert1886
07-01-2009, 08:44 PM
screw the celtics!
in2deep
07-01-2009, 08:51 PM
the Celtics are pretty much getting on their collective knees and sucking some Sheed dick. pathetic. show some class.
Spursmania
07-01-2009, 08:52 PM
KG, Rivers, Allen, and Pierce have all supposedly been coaxing Sheed since midnight... now going to Boston to do some more partying.... nice...
You'd think they would be on vacation instead of in Boston.
in2deep
07-01-2009, 08:53 PM
"I'll suck your dick..."
http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/danny-ainge.jpg
4RINGS
07-01-2009, 08:54 PM
If we have a chance, we would probably have the advantage. When players actually give us the opportunity and come down here, it usually works. The Riverwalk, Pop, the city of San Antonio, the friendly people in Texas...it's usually a good omen.
I agree. I just hate the idea that he is meeting with the C's first. You know KG and his boys are going to lay it on THICK. I bet part of the motivation is just to keep him off of our team. The rest of the league does not want to see what POP can do with him. :flag:
bresilhac
07-01-2009, 09:00 PM
screw the celtics!
And add to that, fuck Boston.
C'mon Rasheed, do the right thing.
Slinkyman
07-01-2009, 09:08 PM
If Sheed picks Boston we'd have to make a push for Powe
SPURSGOAT
07-01-2009, 09:11 PM
I agree. I just hate the idea that he is meeting with the C's first. You know KG and his boys are going to lay it on THICK. I bet part of the motivation is just to keep him off of our team. The rest of the league does not want to see what POP can do with him. :flag:
I agree... sux that Boston is getting first crack at Sheed... he better fly down here and give us a chance...:bang
xtremesteven33
07-01-2009, 09:11 PM
If Rasheed doesnt make a decision by Friday im gonna enter the
"Dont give a ****" mode.....
Spursmania
07-01-2009, 09:12 PM
Sheed playing with baby Davis in Boston? Tell me it isn't so:bang
http://blog.mlive.com/state_sports/2008/01/080105-celtics-glen-davis-shoots-over-rasheed-wallace.jpg
4RINGS
07-01-2009, 09:12 PM
If Sheed picks Boston we'd have to make a push for Powe
Is Powe healthy???
lefty
07-01-2009, 09:12 PM
I agree... sux that Boston is getting first crack at Sheed... be better fly down here and give us a chance...:bang
It's a good thing if we meet Sheed after Boston does.
Sheed has a big mouth, which means Pop and RC can get some info out of him and outbid Boston
4RINGS
07-01-2009, 09:15 PM
It's a good thing if we meet Sheed after Boston does.
Sheed has a big mouth, which means Pop and RC can get some info out of him and outbid Boston
Let's offer him more WEED than Boston does... that will be the deal maker.:smokin
MarHill
07-01-2009, 09:16 PM
Is Powe healthy???
I would rather have McDyess than the Powe. McDyess can step out and hit the 12-15 ft. jumper consistently.
Powe is good around the basket and is tough-minded. But McDyess has more of an all-around game.
Spursmania
07-01-2009, 09:16 PM
It's a good thing if we meet Sheed after Boston does.
Sheed has a big mouth, which means Pop and RC can get some info out of him and outbid Boston
http://www.sportsbrownie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/rasheed-wallace-chinese-lion.jpg
lefty
07-01-2009, 09:16 PM
Let's offer him more WEED than Boston does... that will be the deal maker.:smokin
:lol
kbrury
07-01-2009, 09:18 PM
I would rather have McDyess than the Powe. McDyess can step out and hit the 12-15 ft. jumper consistently.
Powe is good around the basket and is tough-minded. But McDyess has more of an all-around game.
Different price ranges on them, his injury could drop his price tag a lot if he could be had for the lle Id take him.
Slinkyman
07-01-2009, 09:18 PM
I would rather have McDyess than the Powe. McDyess can step out and hit the 12-15 ft. jumper consistently.
Powe is good around the basket and is tough-minded. But McDyess has more of an all-around game.
who says we can't have both McDyess and Powe, McDyess isn't worth the whole MLE and Powe has a torn ACL (who needs that anyway) and probably won't get many offers.
kbrury
07-01-2009, 09:20 PM
Mcdyess might not be worth the MLE but if he doesnt stay in Detroit it will probably be for the mle.
SPURSGOAT
07-01-2009, 09:38 PM
http://www.need4sheed.com/videos/rasheed_wallace_cribs.html
Found this... Sheed is a total nut; real funny dude... his kid's rooms and his den are pretty phat...damn would kill to have all that stuff he has down in his den...
Sure hope he signs with us... he would be a great fit all around.
4RINGS
07-01-2009, 09:47 PM
http://www.need4sheed.com/thumbs/pistonhazethumb.jpg
Mister Sinister
07-02-2009, 01:03 AM
http://www.need4sheed.com/thumbs/pistonhazethumb.jpg
Excuse me while I....Nah. Too easy.
phyzik
07-02-2009, 01:11 AM
http://www.need4sheed.com/videos/rasheed_wallace_cribs.html
Found this... Sheed is a total nut; real funny dude... his kid's rooms and his den are pretty phat...damn would kill to have all that stuff he has down in his den...
Sure hope he signs with us... he would be a great fit all around.
Total gamer. The dude is a perfect Timmy ally. KG probably cant even get his numbers as HIMSELF in NBA K9 and thats sad right there.
buttsR4rebounding
07-02-2009, 04:00 AM
Sheed: "Tell me KG, how does my ass taste?"
rayray2k8
07-02-2009, 04:19 AM
Sheed: "Tell me KG, how does my ass taste?"
:huh
KSeal
07-02-2009, 05:30 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjhA4HMgwBToI4SZL9iDvdO8vLYF?slug=aw-celticswallace070109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Jeez, Celtics all over this guy.
Spurs da champs
07-02-2009, 05:45 AM
I dont really see why they need him but then again Danny Ainge is KG's b!tch. Apparently Leon Powe is ahead of schedule to return from acl.
Dro210
07-02-2009, 07:29 AM
C'mon Sheed, we need you baby.... me and you can cruise the Bronco... I hope you still got that joint!
I want a Spurs #30, Wallace on the back, sooooooo bad
Spurs Brazil
07-02-2009, 07:59 AM
Celtics have target
WALTHAM - Danny Ainge was on the telephone at his HealthPoint office when the NBA free agent market opened at midnight yesterday. Among Ainge’s first calls was to Bill Strickland, agent for center-forward Rasheed Wallace.
“I made some calls,’’ said Ainge, the Celtics’ president of basketball operations. “Rasheed is a guy we have interest in. We made calls with quite a few free agents’ representatives late last night from my office to let them know we have interest. We contacted 10 free agents and tried to get some feedback in what they are looking for and their interest long term. But that’s about it. Mostly for something down the road.’’
The Celtics’ interest in Wallace is not for the long term, though. Wallace, 34, might be the most intriguing of free agent candidates, his relationship with Celtics forward Kevin Garnett a possible advantage.
Strickland confirmed the Celtics’ contact with Wallace with a text message: “The interest is mutual.’’
Asked if Wallace, who earned $13 million with the Pistons last season, could join the Celtics as a mid-level exception, Strickland said: “We will see how things work out.’’
Charlotte, Cleveland, Orlando, and San Antonio have also shown interest in Wallace.
Ainge said he did not contact any players directly, nor has he made contract offers. Ainge said he has been on the receiving end of many more inquiries from agents in recent days than he has proferred.
“We’ll just continue to stay in contact with free agents to see if there is something we can do,’’ Ainge said. “That could take some time. Free agents are talking to several teams. I don’t anticipate anything dramatic happening any time soon. We have plenty of time left.
“We have an interest in a lot of free agents, on different levels. We have different needs. I think everybody’s trying to get a feel to where the market is. I think a lot of players start on July 1st with big dollar signs in their eyes, and then some of them get it, and some of them don’t. And some of them come looking for anything later in the summer.
“So, it will be interesting to see how the summer goes. There’s always guys who have big dollar signs who don’t get what they’re hoping for. That’s their agents’ job, to ask for whatever they can, and settle for what’s available.’’
Asked if the economic climate will affect the free agent market, Ainge said: “I’m not sure it’s that much different, but it might be. I think the whole pool is going to be less this year. But, again, there are going to be some that get paid and some that don’t.
“I think the initial indication of the market is you see a lot of guys expected to opt out of their contracts didn’t, and that’s a pretty good indication there might not be the circumstances or situations available to them they hoped that might have been there before.’’
According to Andy Miller, agent for Tyronne Lue - a reserve guard for Orlando who is close to Garnett - and forward Antonio McDyess, Ainge has expressed interest in both players. McDyess was expected to return to the Pistons, but began checking other options because Detroit signed Charlie Villanueva, who agreed in principle to a contract yesterday, according to the Associated Press.
Lue was on the Celtics’ list last year before Eddie House signed. House exercised a player option on the second year of his contract Tuesday.
“It’s great to have Eddie back,’’ Ainge said. “Eddie’s been a big part of our success the last two years. He’s a fan favorite, he’s a favorite of his teammates, they trust him. Shooting is a premium in this league and Eddie is a guy that would be tough to replace. Game 7, on the road, in Cleveland - KG would throw the ball to Eddie, Paul [Pierce] would throw the ball to Eddie. They trust him and his shooting and that’s what he does. He’s a great, great shooter.’’
Marc J. Spears of the Globe staff contributed to this report.
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2009/07/02/celtics_have_target/
The latest news is Rasheed is not going to Boston today. Instead the Celtics are going to Michigan to meet him.
Owner Wyc Grousbeck is taking his private plane along with Garnett, Ainge, Doc Rivers, and possibly Paul Pierce and Ray Allen. (sources: Gary Tanguay and WEEI)
benefactor
07-02-2009, 12:33 PM
http://www2.nesn.com/boston-celtics/2009/07/02/report-celtics-meeting-with-wallace/
The Boston Herald confirmed the report, also adding that the Celtics are willing to offer the full mid-level exception of $5.8 million, but only for two seasons.
C'mon Spurs...get the third year done.
ace3g
07-02-2009, 12:48 PM
http://www2.nesn.com/boston-celtics/2009/07/02/report-celtics-meeting-with-wallace/
C'mon Spurs...get the third year done.
Exactly, give Sheed the extra year, and if the Spurs start to notice his play downgrade after the 2nd year, they can try and trade him away. So if the 3rd year is the kicker, go for it
loveforthegame
07-02-2009, 12:50 PM
I can't believe the Spurs would get hung up over a 3rd year. Get it done already.
Muser
07-02-2009, 12:51 PM
http://www2.nesn.com/boston-celtics/2009/07/02/report-celtics-meeting-with-wallace/
C'mon Spurs...get the third year done.
I guess this is what his agent meant.
Get it done RC :toast.
in2deep
07-02-2009, 12:53 PM
I'd be down with the 3rd year. If it gets us 1 championship, it's worth it
HarlemHeat37
07-02-2009, 12:59 PM
So it looks like there's a legit chance that he verbally agrees to go to Boston today, since they're all going out to meet him..just hope for the best..
loveforthegame
07-02-2009, 01:00 PM
The only good thing if he verbally agrees with Boston today is that the Spurs can move quickly on to the next target(s) instead of waiting longer on Wallace.
Bruno
07-02-2009, 01:01 PM
Sending players or an owner to Sheed house is damn ridiculous. What the hell are they going to say? "we want you"? Great...
It remembers me when Finley was waived from Dallas. Some teams send players and their whole staff to Finley house, Miami made giant banners... For Spurs, only Pop went to Finley's house. We all know who get Finley at the end.
If Spurs want Sheed, I expect Pop to go in his house to present him Spurs' project with him and maybe a call form Duncan to say that he would like to play with him. All the rest bring nothing to the situation. Sheed is a grown man and he will take an objective decision.
The most ridiculous has been Rockets pitch to get Gortat. Giving him emails from fans and a rockets jersey at his name. :lol
Muser
07-02-2009, 01:04 PM
Sending players or an owner to Sheed house is damn ridiculous. What the hell are they going to say? "we want you"? Great...
It remembers me when Finley was waived from Dallas. Some teams send players and their whole staff to Finley house, Miami made giant banners... For Spurs, only Pop went to Finley's house. We all know who get Finley at the end.
If Spurs want Sheed, I expect Pop to go in his house to present him Spurs' project with him and maybe a call form Duncan to say that he would like to play with him. All the rest bring nothing to the situation. Sheed is a grown man and he will take an objective decision.
The most ridiculous has been Rockets pitch to get Gortat. Giving him emails from fans and a rockets jersey at his name. :lol
:lmao
SPURSGOAT
07-02-2009, 01:04 PM
The latest news is Rasheed is not going to Boston today. Instead the Celtics are going to Michigan to meet him.
Owner Wyc Grousbeck is taking his private plane along with Garnett, Ainge, Doc Rivers, and possibly Paul Pierce and Ray Allen. (sources: Gary Tanguay and WEEI)
DOH! Damn; I sure hope that RC and Pop can get Timmy and RJ to meet with him... I doubt Parker and Ginobli would be able to make it...
Mr. Body
07-02-2009, 01:06 PM
If you want to kidnap someone, it's always best to bring more guys.
loveforthegame
07-02-2009, 01:06 PM
Unfortunately that's what it has come too. Instead of players visting whichever cities they want to play for it's an ensemble of players/coaches/GM's/whatever going to said players choice of venue.
HarlemHeat37
07-02-2009, 01:09 PM
KG didn't make the trip..
It ended up being the owner, Ainge, Rivers, and Pierce, according to some people that work where the private jet is kept..they already left a few hours ago according to people in Boston..so we might have an idea of what's going to happen soon enough..
I trust Pop though..there's just something about him that is persuasive..
Blackjack
07-02-2009, 01:11 PM
(Not sure if this has been posted)
Sheed’s Attitude
As we all know, the Spurs are amidst the pack of teams interested in signing Rasheed Wallace. Despite being a big man who can stretch the floor and defend the post, many Spurs fans are hesitant. Sheed is a tech factory and many are concerned that his penchant for on court theatrics could cause problems this upcoming season.
I’ll admit, I am not concerned about Sheed’s “attitude” whatsoever. In fact, I think our recent interest in Sheed is an excellent opportunity to articulate what personal characteristics the Spurs are concerned with and those that they disregard.
Despite some people’s impression, the Spurs are most concerned with what happens on the court. But the reality of the matter is, sometimes off-the-court situations impact what happens on the court. Does Sheed have any off-the-court activities with which we should be concerned? No, he does not. Despite being the most notable player on the “jailblazers,” Sheed has a pretty respectable personal history.
Similarly, the Spurs are concerned with “the locker room,” i.e. how the players mesh with one another. Good personal chemistry breeds good on-court chemistry. Is there any reason to suspect Sheed would be a problem in the locker room? No, there is not. Sheed is beloved by his teammates and well respected around the league. In fact, during Pistons-Spurs games the last few years, Tim Duncan and Sheed have often been seen joking around during timeouts and while positioned next to one another during free throws.
But even if a player is well liked by his teammates and doesn’t get in trouble off the court, he must still be willing to accept his role. Is Sheed a selfish player on the floor? No, he is not. The Pistons were considered a team-oriented unit and he was always willing to defer to players like Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton. Sheed has the ability to score, but he has always understood when to assert himself and when to take a step back.
Which brings us to the technicals. For the past several seasons in a row, Sheed has been at the top of the list of players who received the highest amount of technical fouls. He runs his mouth incessantly. Opposing players and the referees had best be prepared for a verbal throttling when Sheed’s on the floor. But is this a cause for serious concern? Personally, I think it isn’t.
Sheed’s penchant for drawing technicals is not a sign of his irreverence (at least not only). It is a sign of his passion. In games where he receives a technical, Sheed’s average rises in four major statistical categories (Points, Rebounds, Blocks, FTAs). Techs also provide him an opportunity to encourage a more impassioned style of play in his teammates (teammates who, as I’ve already mentioned, he nearly always has excellent relationships with). At the time it seems shortsighted: Was it really worth arguing that minor call and giving the opposing team a technical free throw? But when you look at the legacy of success Sheed has contributed to (both at Detroit and Portland), it seems to me that his theatrics may be worth suffering through.
The other criticism people bring up is his commitment: In a lot of people’s opinion, when the team struggles, Sheed quits. Although I think it is slightly overstated, this is a legitimate concern. That being said, I am not that worried about it. If Sheed signs with the Spurs, we will contend, no questions asked. As always, injury can derail any team. But as currently composed, the Spurs are already a contender. Add Sheed to the mix and we slide toward the head of the pack. It’s regrettable that Sheed can be easily disheartened or distracted when the team is struggling. But when he has played for contenders, he has always played brilliantly.
I also think Spurs fans should consider the effort given by every Spur not named Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, George Hill, and Bruce Bowen in games 4 and 5 of the first round of this season’s NBA playoffs. If you are looking for a group of guys to criticize for quitting when the chips are down, there is you answer.
http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/07/01/sheeds-attitude/
coyotes_geek
07-02-2009, 01:11 PM
Rumor has it a bunch of celtic fans made a "we want you Sheed" mix tape to send in KG's place.............
DBMethos
07-02-2009, 01:13 PM
Pop >>>>> Celtics' entourage
in2deep
07-02-2009, 01:13 PM
Rumor has it a bunch of celtic fans made a "we want you Sheed" mix tape to send in KG's place.............
yeah, that's exactly what Sheed needs. A bunch of rich white ppl telling him what to do.
HarlemHeat37
07-02-2009, 01:19 PM
I still don't see how it works for Boston..
I don't see Wallace coming off the bench..and if they give him the starting spot, then there's no way a guy with Perkins' ego is accept a demotion..
spurs_fan_in_exile
07-02-2009, 01:20 PM
Sheed’s penchant for drawing technicals is not a sign of his irreverence (at least not only). It is a sign of his passion. In games where he receives a technical, Sheed’s average rises in four major statistical categories (Points, Rebounds, Blocks, FTAs). Techs also provide him an opportunity to encourage a more impassioned style of play in his teammates (teammates who, as I’ve already mentioned, he nearly always has excellent relationships with). At the time it seems shortsighted: Was it really worth arguing that minor call and giving the opposing team a technical free throw? But when you look at the legacy of success Sheed has contributed to (both at Detroit and Portland), it seems to me that his theatrics may be worth suffering through.
If Rasheed came that would be interesting to see whether he or Pop will be the guy for the "get a tech to wake up the team" argument. Best case scenario they can share the duties and both get ejected less. Worse case scenario they might pool their rage and murder and consume Joey Crawford during a live NBA telecast.
EricB
07-02-2009, 01:21 PM
If you want to kidnap someone, it's always best to bring more guys.
This sounds like an episode of burn notice is about to begin.
spurs_fan_in_exile
07-02-2009, 01:25 PM
This sounds like an episode of burn notice is about to begin.
Hey, Jeffrey Donovan is from Massachusetts and probably a Celtics fan. This shit could get real in a hurry.
HarlemHeat37
07-02-2009, 01:26 PM
it's interesting that there is so much news involving 'Sheed-Boston, but nothing local about 'Sheed-San Antonio...
RGMCSE
07-02-2009, 01:29 PM
How embarrassing would it be for sheed to get all kinds of love from the c's then turn around and sign with the Spurs. That would be funny as hell. C's fans would be burning. Yeah that's right we took Duncan from you and now Sheed!
EricB
07-02-2009, 01:34 PM
Hey, Jeffrey Donovan is from Massachusetts and probably a Celtics fan. This shit could get real in a hurry.
"All you need to convince a basketball player to sign in Boston is a few special tools you can get a hardware store. Some pliers, some C4...."
pad300
07-02-2009, 01:34 PM
Worse case scenario they might pool their rage and murder and consume Joey Crawford during a live NBA telecast.
Isn't that really the best case scenario? Seriously no more Joey Crawford! :rollin
EricB
07-02-2009, 01:35 PM
How embarrassing would it be for sheed to get all kinds of love from the c's then turn around and sign with the Spurs. That would be funny as hell. C's fans would be burning. Yeah that's right we took Duncan from you and now Sheed!
It has precedence with Miami over Finley, but, the more this plays out, the more I think Sheed is going to Boston.
EricB
07-02-2009, 01:36 PM
it's interesting that there is so much news involving 'Sheed-Boston, but nothing local about 'Sheed-San Antonio...
You should be greatfull that you heard the Spurs were even interested in him.
The Spurs have been semi unCIA up until the draft, now they are back into "leak and die" mode.
DPG21920
07-02-2009, 01:36 PM
Some times you have to go the extra mile for certaiin players, it is good business. If all else is equal, the teams that put the most effort in (combined with logic and good fit) will win.
in2deep
07-02-2009, 01:38 PM
It has precedence with Miami over Finley, but, the more this plays out, the more I think Sheed is going to Boston.
don't know. Sheed, like Finley seem like the kind of guys that will use logic and won't get flattered by any of this BS flair.
It makes more sense for him to go to Spurs, IF he still wants to play and work his ass off. That's a big IF.
Muser
07-02-2009, 01:38 PM
You should be greatfull that you heard the Spurs were even interested in him.
The Spurs have been semi unCIA up until the draft, now they are back into "leak and die" mode.
And that's the way a good businessman conducts his work :toast.
EricB
07-02-2009, 01:41 PM
And that's the way a good businessman conducts his work :toast.
Yes sir it is. Which is why you'll never hear me complain about it except on certain times that they are close to signing a FA :lol
Sobe_Kucks
07-02-2009, 01:46 PM
Honestly I'm getting really tired of all this Rasheed Wallace talk about if and why he will or won't come here. U wanna talk serious???
Let's talk about MIKE WALLACE!:wow
Now this dude is a bit up there in age but that never hurt the Spurs. He's the complete package. I think given the scoring threats already on the floor Wallace can concentrate on pure D and be a BEAST on the boards! I think K_B_P has pix of this guy posting up and destroying Bouroussis in Greece too so we know he has post moves. Dude can flat out ball! I say let's get him before Boston does!
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/kimble02/Wallace.jpg
TDMVPDPOY
07-02-2009, 01:52 PM
CIAPOP has sent his clones agent smith to visit sheed....enter the matrix sheed
RGMCSE
07-02-2009, 01:55 PM
Well it would be hard to say no after all that ass kissing but I'd like to think Sheed will see through the BS. Maybe the C's make the sales pitch and Sheed tells them he will think about it. That alone would be telling. Regardless at least well have a little more knowledge to go with the suspense later today.
HarlemHeat37
07-02-2009, 01:56 PM
Every interested team will give him a pitch..if all it took was ass-kissing and visits from the players/management, every team would be doing that..
As I've said many times, it comes down to his friendship with KG..that's all Boston has going for them..everything else is in our favor..
Spursfan092120
07-02-2009, 02:29 PM
Every interested team will give him a pitch..if all it took was ass-kissing and visits from the players/management, every team would be doing that..
As I've said many times, it comes down to his friendship with KG..that's all Boston has going for them..everything else is in our favor..
But isn't he even closer to Tim?..I thought him and KG got into it a while back.
iilluzioN
07-02-2009, 02:56 PM
Here’s how badly the Boston Celtics believe Rasheed Wallace can be the difference in winning an 18th NBA championship next season: Coach Doc Rivers and the Big Three have made a recruiting trip to woo him.
The Celtics are targeting Wallace with the midlevel exception and sources say the team – which could be willing to pay a steep luxury tax – is also pursuing Phoenix’s Grant Hill. The Celtics sent Rivers, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen(notes) to encourage Wallace to sign with them. Garnett and Wallace have a close relationship.
Boston officials are convinced that these next 24 to 48 hours are critical in overtaking the Cleveland Cavaliers and Orlando Magic in the Eastern Conference, and eventually, the defending champion Los Angeles Lakers.
Wallace, who turns 35 in September, is the free agent power forward that most of the contenders covet, including Cleveland, Orlando, San Antonio and Dallas.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjhA4HMgwBToI4SZL9iDvdO8vLYF?slug=aw-celticswallace070109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
MoSpur
07-02-2009, 02:59 PM
Wasn't Ray Allen about to get traded or in some trade talks and now he is recruiting???
crc21209
07-02-2009, 03:00 PM
Here’s how badly the Boston Celtics believe Rasheed Wallace can be the difference in winning an 18th NBA championship next season: Coach Doc Rivers and the Big Three have made a recruiting trip to woo him.
The Celtics are targeting Wallace with the midlevel exception and sources say the team – which could be willing to pay a steep luxury tax – is also pursuing Phoenix’s Grant Hill. The Celtics sent Rivers, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen(notes) to encourage Wallace to sign with them. Garnett and Wallace have a close relationship.
Boston officials are convinced that these next 24 to 48 hours are critical in overtaking the Cleveland Cavaliers and Orlando Magic in the Eastern Conference, and eventually, the defending champion Los Angeles Lakers.
Wallace, who turns 35 in September, is the free agent power forward that most of the contenders covet, including Cleveland, Orlando, San Antonio and Dallas.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjhA4HMgwBToI4SZL9iDvdO8vLYF?slug=aw-celticswallace070109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
That is an old ass article from yesterday. And in the "Spurs in line to woo Sheed" thread, it was said that KG didnt make the trip. Only Ainge, Rivers, Pierce, and the owner made it. And it was also reported that the Cavs and Spurs are meeting with Sheed today as well.
iilluzioN
07-02-2009, 03:00 PM
Thats what I was thinking....
but when someone or if a organization pays you millions of dollars I guess you do whatever is asked from them
PS. MODS can you please move this thread to the NBA FORUM, THX!
iilluzioN
07-02-2009, 03:01 PM
old ass article from yesterday
:lol
mudyez
07-02-2009, 03:02 PM
lol...KG has better things to do and Allen is recruiting while beeing traded alongside Rondo later :-)
Mugen
07-02-2009, 03:02 PM
:lol
in all fairness, yesterday usually translates into "old ass" in this forum.
celldweller
07-02-2009, 03:03 PM
Wallace, who turns 35 in September, is the free agent power forward that most of the contenders covet, including Cleveland, Orlando, San Antonio and Dallas.
Dallas is a contender? :lol
phyzik
07-02-2009, 03:03 PM
:lol
considering how quickly we go through articles on this board, yesterdays news is really old.
crc21209
07-02-2009, 03:09 PM
considering how quickly we go through articles on this board, yesterdays news is really old.
Damn right. :lol.
celldweller
07-02-2009, 03:34 PM
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/07/cs_offer_sheed.html
An NBA source said that the Celtics offered Pistons free agent F/C Rasheed Wallace a contract using the mid-level exception today during a three-hour meeting in Detroit.
The Celtics All-Star trio of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen, coach Doc Rivers, president Danny Ainge, and managing partner Wyc Grousbeck all attended the meeting.
While interested, the source said Wallace was in no rush to make a decision.
Other teams projected to be interested in his services are Charlotte, San Antonio, Orlando, and Cleveland.
Muser
07-02-2009, 03:35 PM
Now we wait for the other teams to show their hands.
mudyez
07-02-2009, 03:36 PM
wow...didn't see that coming!
...silence...
crc21209
07-02-2009, 03:36 PM
Here it is for everyone in case the link doesnt work or something....
C's offer 'Sheed contract
Email|Link|Comments (0) Posted by Marc J. Spears, Globe Staff July 2, 2009 04:00 PM
An NBA source said that the Celtics offered Pistons free agent F/C Rasheed Wallace a contract using the mid-level exception today during a three-hour meeting in Detroit.
The Celtics All-Star trio of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen, coach Doc Rivers, president Danny Ainge, and managing partner Wyc Grousbeck all attended the meeting.
While interested, the source said Wallace was in no rush to make a decision.
Other teams projected to be interested in his services are Charlotte, San Antonio, Orlando, and Cleveland.
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/07/cs_offer_sheed.html
crc21209
07-02-2009, 03:39 PM
3 hour meeting huh? Wow! :lol. Well if Sheed really wanted to be a Celtic wouldnt he have taken the offer already? Maybe there is some hope for us! :tu. And let's get real...he's not going to Charlotte. :lol
urunobili
07-02-2009, 03:39 PM
If he didn't accept already I like our chances... the meeting failed otherwise the headline would be different...
Here it is for everyone in case the link doesnt work or something....
C's offer 'Sheed contract
Email|Link|Comments (0) Posted by Marc J. Spears, Globe Staff July 2, 2009 04:00 PM
An NBA source said that the Celtics offered Pistons free agent F/C Rasheed Wallace a contract using the mid-level exception today during a three-hour meeting in Detroit.
The Celtics All-Star trio of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen, coach Doc Rivers, president Danny Ainge, and managing partner Wyc Grousbeck all attended the meeting.
While interested, the source said Wallace was in no rush to make a decision.
Other teams projected to be interested in his services are Charlotte, San Antonio, Orlando, and Cleveland.
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/07/cs_offer_sheed.html
That's somewhat of a relief.
loveforthegame
07-02-2009, 03:42 PM
Well, it says he's in no rush to make his decision. He very well may have made up his mind without telling them but wants to hear from the Spurs or whoever he's interested in playing for.
Spurs Brazil
07-02-2009, 03:43 PM
While interested, the source said Wallace was in no rush to make a decision.
I don't like that very much.
If we wait too much on him we may lose McDyess and others
coyotes_geek
07-02-2009, 03:43 PM
If he didn't accept already I like our chances... the meeting failed otherwise the headline would be different...
:lol
Please. Only a moron would accept the first offer that came his way without hearing what everyone else has to say. Sheed not taking their offer on the spot means nothing. He's going to hear everyone out and then he'll make a decision.
Drom John
07-02-2009, 03:45 PM
Only a moron would accept the first offer that came his way without hearing what everyone else has to say.
Are you calling Gordon a moron?
crc21209
07-02-2009, 03:46 PM
:lol
Please. Only a moron would accept the first offer that came his way without hearing what everyone else has to say. Sheed not taking their offer on the spot means nothing. He's going to hear everyone out and then he'll make a decision.
But if he really really wanted to be a Celtic and was convinced by KG and all their BS he would've taken the offer already. Just like that report the other day that said "The Celtics want Sheed and he wants them." Maybe not so much now? That is why him not taking the offer already from them is good for us. :tu
coyotes_geek
07-02-2009, 03:46 PM
Are you calling Gordon a moron?
Was there anyone else standing in line to offer Gordon the same money Detroit was?
Muser
07-02-2009, 03:47 PM
Are you calling Gordon a moron?
You don't pass up a 5 Year 55 Million $ contract.
StoneBuddha
07-02-2009, 03:49 PM
Gordon isn't going to make the same mistake twice. He got lucky this offseason that he had a good playoff and that the Detroit was willing to overpay.
xtremesteven33
07-02-2009, 03:49 PM
If Sheed passes up the Spurs this year he is a moron...seriously.....
SPURSGOAT
07-02-2009, 03:49 PM
Here it is for everyone in case the link doesnt work or something....
C's offer 'Sheed contract
Email|Link|Comments (0) Posted by Marc J. Spears, Globe Staff July 2, 2009 04:00 PM
An NBA source said that the Celtics offered Pistons free agent F/C Rasheed Wallace a contract using the mid-level exception today during a three-hour meeting in Detroit.
The Celtics All-Star trio of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen, coach Doc Rivers, president Danny Ainge, and managing partner Wyc Grousbeck all attended the meeting.
While interested, the source said Wallace was in no rush to make a decision.
Other teams projected to be interested in his services are Charlotte, San Antonio, Orlando, and Cleveland.
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/07/cs_offer_sheed.html
Yea Sheed is in no hurry; he is going to ride this out for as long as he can... Next he will probably go hang with CP3, then on to Orlando to hang out with Superman and Vinsanity, then to Cleveland to smoke a few blunts with Shaq and the King, then will round it out by flying down to SA to be wined and dined and then hopefully sign with us... lol! This could very well take weeks... in the meantime ST will be in a total meltdown til this thing is all over...:downspin:
loveforthegame
07-02-2009, 03:54 PM
A little wait is fine but hopefully the Spurs have a cut off date in mind so they won't watch all the other big men sign with other teams and still lost out on Wallace.
coyotes_geek
07-02-2009, 03:55 PM
But if he really really wanted to be a Celtic and was convinced by KG and all their BS he would've taken the offer already. Just like that report the other day that said "The Celtics want Sheed and he wants them." Maybe not so much now? That is why him not taking the offer already from them is good for us. :tu
I get that as a fan you really, really want this to mean something, but it doesn't. Sheed has several teams wanting his services, all contenders, all offering the same money. If 5 people are offering you a job and they're all offering the same amount of money are you going to take the first one that you interview with, or are you going to interview with them all and see which one of the 5 is the best fit?
Drom John
07-02-2009, 03:57 PM
"If 5 people are offering you a job and they're all offering the same amount of money are you going to take the first one that you interview with, or are you going to interview with them all and see which one of the 5 ..." will offer a third year?
SPURSGOAT
07-02-2009, 03:58 PM
I get that as a fan you really, really want this to mean something, but it doesn't. Sheed has several teams wanting his services, all contenders, all offering the same money. If 5 people are offering you a job and they're all offering the same amount of money are you going to take the first one that you interview with, or are you going to interview with them all and see which one of the 5 is the best fit?
well said... :toast
coyotes_geek
07-02-2009, 03:59 PM
will offer a third year?
A valid question for him. One he won't know the answer to until he's met with everyone.
Sobe_Kucks
07-02-2009, 04:03 PM
Here it is for everyone in case the link doesnt work or something....
C's offer 'Sheed contract
Email|Link|Comments (0) Posted by Marc J. Spears, Globe Staff July 2, 2009 04:00 PM
An NBA source said that the Celtics offered Pistons free agent F/C Rasheed Wallace a contract using the mid-level exception today during a three-hour meeting in Detroit.
The Celtics All-Star trio of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen, coach Doc Rivers, president Danny Ainge, and managing partner Wyc Grousbeck all attended the meeting.
While interested, the source said Wallace was in no rush to make a decision.
Other teams projected to be interested in his services are Charlotte, San Antonio, Orlando, and Cleveland.
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/07/cs_offer_sheed.html
:downspin:"Old ass" article from 4:00!:downspin:
crc21209
07-02-2009, 04:06 PM
:downspin:"Old ass" article from 4:00!:downspin:
:lol I didnt post it first! I just posted it all out for people in case the link didnt work.
spurtilldeath
07-02-2009, 04:07 PM
:nerd When it comes to Spurs...cant get enough news huh...
sometimes it is better to be the last team to speak to a player.
crc21209
07-02-2009, 04:08 PM
I get that as a fan you really, really want this to mean something, but it doesn't. Sheed has several teams wanting his services, all contenders, all offering the same money. If 5 people are offering you a job and they're all offering the same amount of money are you going to take the first one that you interview with, or are you going to interview with them all and see which one of the 5 is the best fit?
I'm just sayin...if he desperately wanted to be a C, he would've been one by now already. Sheed isnt an idiot...he knows the situation in Boston, SA, and Cleveland or anywhere else already. He knows the staff, coaches, players, etc. He doesnt really need to interview with everyone to know all of the main things already. Hopefully right now he's laughing it up with RC and Pop as they come to a deal. :toast. :lol
ulosturedge
07-02-2009, 04:10 PM
There is an Insider rumors blog that is titled "imagine Duncan, Jefferson, Sheed". Its on the espn site. I dunno if anyone can get access to that. You need to be an Insider subscriber i guess. I'm curious to know that writers take on the possibilities with that hardcourt combo :O.
Sobe_Kucks
07-02-2009, 04:11 PM
I get that as a fan you really, really want this to mean something, but it doesn't. Sheed has several teams wanting his services, all contenders, all offering the same money. If 5 people are offering you a job and they're all offering the same amount of money are you going to take the first one that you interview with, or are you going to interview with them all and see which one of the 5 is the best fit?
Amen brothah! Lots of things go into the decision if salaries are the same, what's his role, how many minutes of PT, team chemistry. If there is someone willing to do a 3 year deal who is it? What's the city like etc. etc. etc. He's going to weigh out all his options. Gotta think Boston and SA are frontrunners but if this does string out, how long is waiting too long to commit? Don't want to miss out on other FA's (i.e Dyess). Gotta have faith that the FO knows what they're doing. Meethinks they do...
timvp
07-02-2009, 04:13 PM
There is an Insider rumors blog that is titled "imagine Duncan, Jefferson, Sheed". Its on the espn site. I dunno if anyone can get access to that. You need to be an Insider subscriber i guess. I'm curious to know that writers take on the possibilities with that hardcourt combo :O.
Nothing new. Just an excerpt from the Express-News with a fancy new title.
tmtcsc
07-02-2009, 04:13 PM
A little wait is fine but hopefully the Spurs have a cut off date in mind so they won't watch all the other big men sign with other teams and still lost out on Wallace.
I imagine that they are talking to all their prospects simultaneously and that they will indeed have a "gotta know" date.
spurtilldeath
07-02-2009, 04:14 PM
Amen brothah! Lots of things go into the decision if salaries are the same, what's his role, how many minutes of PT, team chemistry. If there is someone willing to do a 3 year deal who is it? What's the city like etc. etc. etc. He's going to weigh out all his options. Gotta think Boston and SA are frontrunners but if this does string out, how long is waiting too long to commit? Don't want to miss out on other FA's (i.e Dyess). Gotta have faith that the FO knows what they're doing. Meethinks they do...
+ 1 FO know their business.
crc21209
07-02-2009, 04:15 PM
:lol at this post on the Celtics board over at ESPN.com:
Sheed to Boston For Sure
gunitand12
Pistons fan and Detroit Resident here.
I just saw, met, and talked to Sheed, Ray Allen, KG, Paul Pierce, Doc Rivers and their agent. I wash windows during the summer and was working at the Royal Park Hotel in Rochester, and noticed them as I was leaving. I went up and said Hi to them, and talked to Doc and Ray for a bit. Sheed and KG were laughing and having the greatest time so I guarantee he's gone. Their agents pulls me aside and says "We were never here, don't tell anyone."
http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=nba&id=bos&tid=4990690&lid=4
DAF86
07-02-2009, 04:17 PM
What if we wait 'till Sheed makes up his mind, he doesn't sign with us and all the other good options aren't available anymore?
loveforthegame
07-02-2009, 04:18 PM
:lol at this post on the Celtics board over at ESPN.com:
Sheed to Boston For Sure
gunitand12
Pistons fan and Detroit Resident here.
I just saw, met, and talked to Sheed, Ray Allen, KG, Paul Pierce, Doc Rivers and their agent. I wash windows during the summer and was working at the Royal Park Hotel in Rochester, and noticed them as I was leaving. I went up and said Hi to them, and talked to Doc and Ray for a bit. Sheed and KG were laughing and having the greatest time so I guarantee he's gone. Their agents pulls me aside and says "We were never here, don't tell anyone."
http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=nba&id=bos&tid=4990690&lid=4
:lol
It's not like it was a big secret or anything.
crc21209
07-02-2009, 04:20 PM
What if we wait 'till Sheed makes up his mind, he doesn't sign with us and all the other good options aren't available anymore?
That is the cost of waiting TOO long. That is why Pop, RC, & TD gotta be straight up with Sheed and say hey..."Do you wanna fucking win or not?" Plain and simple as that...:lol
peacemaker885
07-02-2009, 04:20 PM
I don't think the Spurs were ever lucky with these long courtship BS. My bet is Sheed is gone.
spurs_fan_in_exile
07-02-2009, 04:21 PM
. Their agents pulls me aside and says "We were never here, don't tell anyone."
http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=nba&id=bos&tid=4990690&lid=4
Pop would leave no witnesses. The Celtics are soft.
ploto
07-02-2009, 04:21 PM
Sheed just wants the dog and pony show- which is part of the reason I don't like him for the Spurs. He has been in the NBA plenty long to know the teams and the players and to know what would be the best fit. He is just playing them all against one another and enjoying being the center of all the FA attention.
tmtcsc
07-02-2009, 04:21 PM
:lol
It's not like it was a big secret or anything.
That must have been a big day for the window washer. Its hard to imagine meeting and talking to ALL of those guys. I remember seeing Sheed in the Venetian in Las Vegas. He had a big Eagles jersey on and was walking through the outer rim of the casino. A guy approached him for an autograph and he didn't even speak to him. He just shook his head "no" and kept walking.
The fan was hilarious. He reminded me of Steve Bushemi from Fargo. He was saying "O C'mon Sheed. You're not even going to talk to me ? Not a word ? Dude, I'm a huge fan ! Ah shit..........whateva..."
So...window washer guy, it was your lucky day. I guarantee you.
coyotes_geek
07-02-2009, 04:22 PM
I'm just sayin...if he desperately wanted to be a C, he would've been one by now already. Sheed isnt an idiot...he knows the situation in Boston, SA, and Cleveland or anywhere else already. He knows the staff, coaches, players, etc. He doesnt really need to interview with everyone to know all of the main things already. Hopefully right now he's laughing it up with RC and Pop as they come to a deal. :toast. :lol
Sheed doesn't know the situation in Boston, SA or Cleveland yet because he's never talked to Boston's, Cleveland's or San Antonio's head coach about what kind of a role he'd have on those teams. If he has, then someone is guilty of tampering.
robert1886
07-02-2009, 04:23 PM
the whole spurs team should role in a bus with R.C, Holt and Pop lol that be a good laugh and joke on the celtics
coyotes_geek
07-02-2009, 04:23 PM
What if we wait 'till Sheed makes up his mind, he doesn't sign with us and all the other good options aren't available anymore?
What if we don't wait long enough and settle for someone not as good? That's why NBA GM's get paid a lot of money. This stuff is hard.
Spursfan092120
07-02-2009, 04:23 PM
Sheed doesn't know the situation in Boston, SA or Cleveland yet because he's never talked to Boston's, Cleveland's or San Antonio's head coach about what kind of a role he'd have on those teams. If he has, then someone is guilty of tampering.
??
How is that tampering? He's a free agent.
HarlemHeat37
07-02-2009, 04:25 PM
??
How is that tampering? He's a free agent.
He means it's impossible to have talked to all of them about his role in 1 day, he would have had to have talked to them before the FA period started..making it tampering..
crc21209
07-02-2009, 04:28 PM
Sheed doesn't know the situation in Boston, SA or Cleveland yet because he's never talked to Boston's, Cleveland's or San Antonio's head coach about what kind of a role he'd have on those teams. If he has, then someone is guilty of tampering.
It's simple, and he knows it. There is a BIG hole in the Spurs big-man department, and a starting spot just waiting for him. In Boston, he knows he may not start with KG & Perkins there.
HarlemHeat37
07-02-2009, 04:28 PM
Well Rasheed probably has legitimate concerns about playing PF ahead of Finley..he might be coming off the bench here..
spurs_fan_in_exile
07-02-2009, 04:29 PM
Well Rasheed probably has legitimate concerns about playing PF ahead of Finley..he might be coming off the bench here..
:lmao
spurtilldeath
07-02-2009, 04:30 PM
Well Rasheed probably has legitimate concerns about playing PF ahead of Finley..he might be coming off the bench here.. no kidding
crc21209
07-02-2009, 04:31 PM
Well Rasheed probably has legitimate concerns about playing PF ahead of Finley..he might be coming off the bench here..
:lol God Pop has to stop with the man-crush on Fin.
coyotes_geek
07-02-2009, 04:33 PM
It's simple, and he knows it. There is a BIG hole in the Spurs big-man department, and a starting spot just waiting for him. In Boston, he knows he may not start with KG & Perkins there.
"He knows he may not start" = "he doesn't know". Hence the need to talk to them. And the need to talk to everyone else he's considering before making a decision.
ulosturedge
07-02-2009, 04:34 PM
If all teams can only offer the MLE to Sheed really what else is there? Is all thats left financially speaking is the longevity of the contract or is there anything else?
Because beyond that if he truly wanted to hang with KG and whoever else wouldn't this be done already? It seems to me that this is exactly how the Agent wanted to play it. By saying San Antonio or whoever else has their work cut out for them. He was probably using that as leverage to "up the ante". Sheed probably just wants that extra little reason to choose the alternative? But like I said what else can be offered?
If this is all on a pure relationship level then wow we are in for a ride.
Man In Black
07-02-2009, 04:36 PM
3 Years MLE...that's what it will probably take. And for Tim...it's worth it to go that extra step to get Rasheed.
:lobt:
crc21209
07-02-2009, 04:37 PM
So I'm watchin PTI right now, and on the bottom on ESPN's ticker is the news that Boston offered Sheed a contract. Is it really necessary to put that on the ticker? :lol. He hasnt signed or agreed to it yet so why is that "news worthy?" Oh of course because it's Boston. :td. :lol.
Spurs Brazil
07-02-2009, 04:41 PM
Andy (Houston)
Do the Spurs really pay the luxury tax at a chance for the title or was signing Richard Jefferson a sign Manu will be traded?
John Hollinger (3:41 PM)
They signed off on paying the tax, yes; that's why you see them still pursuing players like Rasheed Wallace and Antonio McDyess with their midlevel.
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/27257
HarlemHeat37
07-02-2009, 04:50 PM
I love that they only offered him 2 years..
crc21209
07-02-2009, 04:52 PM
I love that they only offered him 2 years..
3 year offer from the Spurs should do it...
coyotes_geek
07-02-2009, 04:53 PM
I love that they only offered him 2 years..
Now that is something to get excited for.............provided the Spurs would be willing to go 3.
FvckMavs
07-02-2009, 04:54 PM
I love that they only offered him 2 years..
Where it said " 2 years"?
crc21209
07-02-2009, 04:54 PM
On PTI Bob Ryan from the Boston Globe just said Sheed is exactly what the C's need because last yr they were short on the bench. God I hope the Spurs crush the C's media and fans dreams.
benefactor
07-02-2009, 04:55 PM
This meeting pretty much went as I expected. They offered Sheed the MLE and he said he would think about it. I don't know why everyone go so worked up about this meeting. Hopefully he sees the situation here and it's benefits over the situation in Boston and makes the right decision.
Oh yeah...offer him 3 years dammit.
clubalien
07-02-2009, 04:55 PM
read about Rwallace's offer http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130316
crc21209
07-02-2009, 04:55 PM
Now that is something to get excited for.............provided the Spurs would be willing to go 3.
I don't see why our FO wouldnt offer 3 years. Why not? If that brings him in for sure, do it. TD & Sheed for the next 3 years should be good enough for maybe 1..or even 2 more ships.
benefactor
07-02-2009, 04:55 PM
Where it said " 2 years"?
Go back through this thread. There is an article that says it.
HarlemHeat37
07-02-2009, 04:56 PM
The advantage we have is that the organization doesn't seem to care about a quick rebuilding..every member of this organization, the players, and all the fans realize that we're going to have a few rough years after TD retires..
So I would assume we're willing to offer 3..
this team also has some young project big men..Mahinmi, Blair, Splitter..those guys could have an impact and develop into important players in 'Sheed's potential 2nd and 3rd years of the contract..
coyotes_geek
07-02-2009, 04:58 PM
The advantage we have is that the organization doesn't seem to care about a quick rebuilding..every member of this organization, the players, and all the fans realize that we're going to have a few rough years after TD retires..
So I would assume we're willing to offer 3..
I would too. A 3 year deal for Sheed would line up neatly with Duncan's contract in a "setting up for capspace in 2012" kind of way.
Sobe_Kucks
07-02-2009, 05:00 PM
If we all get together from the forum and have a bake sale, we can give Holt the extra cash to offer him three years instead of Boston's two. Who's withme???????????? Hopefully Sheed rejects the Boston offer!
:huddle:
crc21209
07-02-2009, 05:01 PM
Sportscenter just kicked off with the "news" that the Celtics offered Sheed a 2 yr deal worth the MLE. Chris Broussard is going to comment on it in a bit....
HarlemHeat37
07-02-2009, 05:03 PM
If we offer him a contract, it won't be on TV anywhere..
ESPN and the NBA will be thinking, "maybe if we don't talk about it, it won't happen"..
crc21209
07-02-2009, 05:04 PM
If we offer him a contract, it won't be on TV anywhere..
ESPN and the NBA will be thinking, "maybe if we don't talk about it, it won't happen"..
Of course it wont be televised...they're hoping he doesnt go to the Spurs! So therefore....let's push the Sheed to the Celtics story now now now! :lol
clubalien
07-02-2009, 05:05 PM
Of course it wont be televised...they're hoping he doesnt go to the Spurs! So therefore....let's push the Sheed to the Celtics story now now now! :lol
the rasheed signing won't be televised; it will be twittered ;/
robert1886
07-02-2009, 05:15 PM
Broussard said we dont have much interest in rasheed and we have more interest in gortat..hmmmm
crc21209
07-02-2009, 05:16 PM
Chris Broussard just said on Sportscenter that now he thinks Sheed is going to wait this out but ultimately end up in Boston. He said the Spurs are not showing as much interest in Sheed as people may think...and that the Spurs are targeting Gortat with the whole MLE instead. And that Sheed would end up in Boston also because of their "aggressiveness" to get him.
Sobe_Kucks
07-02-2009, 05:17 PM
Gortat????????????:wow
bigfan
07-02-2009, 05:19 PM
Hey Rasheed, you'd better study this before you sign anything:
http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=dorsubtopic&L=5&L0=Home&L1=Individuals+and+Families&L2=Personal+Income+Tax&L3=Current+Year+Tax+Information&L4=Guide+to+Personal+Income+Tax&sid=Ador
ninjaskrzypek
07-02-2009, 05:19 PM
weak
lefty
07-02-2009, 05:19 PM
From Hoopsworld:
The Boston Celtics are working to get a meeting with Rasheed Wallace, who is said to be close to a deal with the San Antonio Spurs. Wallace was scheduled to meet with the Spurs and the Cavs today, as well. The Celtics are willing to offer two seasons, so the deciding factor may be which team is willing to gamble for a third season on an older big man.
ploto
07-02-2009, 05:20 PM
So could the Spurs be the team offering Gortat the full MLE? Now that would be humorous afer all the things said here about Houston and Dallas possibly doing so.
benefactor
07-02-2009, 05:20 PM
I like Gortat, but I don't like this move right now if it is true. Who knows...perhaps the FO already had some sort of heads up that Sheed would not be coming here and planned to go a different direction. But if that is true I would think they would at least reach out to McDyess.
HarlemHeat37
07-02-2009, 05:20 PM
All this reporting is BS..
Nobody actually has any news, it's just speculation..
benefactor
07-02-2009, 05:21 PM
lol hoopsworld
timvp
07-02-2009, 05:21 PM
Chris Broussard just said on Sportscenter that now he thinks Sheed is going to wait this out but ultimately end up in Boston. He said the Spurs are not showing as much interest in Sheed as people may think...and that the Spurs are targeting Gortat with the whole MLE instead. And that Sheed would end up in Boston also because of their "aggressiveness" to get him.
Yeah I just saw that :wow
ploto
07-02-2009, 05:22 PM
From Hoopsworld:
The Boston Celtics are working to get a meeting with Rasheed Wallace, who is said to be close to a deal with the San Antonio Spurs.
Now we know it won't happen. :lol
ploto
07-02-2009, 05:23 PM
Yeah I just saw that :wow
Rasho for cheap would be a better deal than that.
lefty
07-02-2009, 05:24 PM
If he plays 30 minutes, Gortat can average 10 pts, 10 rbds, and 2 blocks
crc21209
07-02-2009, 05:25 PM
Yeah I just saw that :wow
Hopefully this is NOT true at all. :td
HarlemHeat37
07-02-2009, 05:25 PM
Do you guys actually believe that these ESPN guys have legit sources?..they've been flip-flopping on this subject for weeks..every day they have a different story on where Wallace is going..
the Spurs were rumored to be getting him for a while heading into the off-season..then Bucher says that Wallace doesn't wanna play in Boston..then Orlando becomes the favorite after the Carter trade..then Orlando apparently won't pay that much..then Bucher and Broussard are split on Boston/San Antonio after Boston shows interest..now they're saying Boston after Boston made an aggressive pitch..
Sobe_Kucks
07-02-2009, 05:28 PM
Didn't the FO also "reportedly" offer a signifcant portion of the MLE to Bouroussis in Greece?:rolleyes Grain of salt my freinds...
crc21209
07-02-2009, 05:30 PM
Do you guys actually believe that these ESPN guys have legit sources?..they've been flip-flopping on this subject for weeks..every day they have a different story on where Wallace is going..
the Spurs were rumored to be getting him for a while heading into the off-season..then Bucher says that Wallace doesn't wanna play in Boston..then Orlando becomes the favorite after the Carter trade..then Orlando apparently won't pay that much..then Bucher and Broussard are split on Boston/San Antonio after Boston shows interest..now they're saying Boston after Boston made an aggressive pitch..
True. I've seen the flip-flopping stories from ESPN for the past few weeks as well...they dont know jack shit! :lol
scottspurs
07-02-2009, 05:31 PM
Until someone signs, I'm not believing anything reported. There are just to many conflicting reports right now.
Spurs9
07-02-2009, 05:31 PM
Chris Broussard just said on Sportscenter that now he thinks Sheed is going to wait this out but ultimately end up in Boston. He said the Spurs are not showing as much interest in Sheed as people may think...and that the Spurs are targeting Gortat with the whole MLE instead. And that Sheed would end up in Boston also because of their "aggressiveness" to get him.
None of that info is correct, its bullshit.
Sobe_Kucks
07-02-2009, 05:31 PM
Rasho for cheap would be a better deal than that.
EVEN IF HE MANS UP AND GROWS A PAIR... I NEVER WANT TO SEE THAT MAN IN A SPURS UNIFORM AGAIN!!!
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/kimble02/RashNO.jpg
lefty
07-02-2009, 05:32 PM
EVEN IF HE MANS UP AND GROWS A PAIR... I NEVER WANT TO SEE THAT MAN IN A SPRUS UNIFORM AGAIN!!!
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/kimble02/RashNO.jpg
:lmao
HarlemHeat37
07-02-2009, 05:32 PM
It doesn't really make a difference anyways..
Gortat already accepted an offer from Dallas, and now Orlando has to match..
so if Marcin was our #1 option, he's gone now..there's still plenty of time to make a pitch at Wallace, and you'd have to believe he was in our top 2 options..otherwise, I have no idea why they aren't as interested as they should be..
coyotes_geek
07-02-2009, 05:33 PM
Chris Broussard just said on Sportscenter that now he thinks Sheed is going to wait this out but ultimately end up in Boston. He said the Spurs are not showing as much interest in Sheed as people may think...and that the Spurs are targeting Gortat with the whole MLE instead. And that Sheed would end up in Boston also because of their "aggressiveness" to get him.
None of that info is correct, its bullshit.
Gortat just committed to the mavs. But if Gortat was the guy they liked over Sheed, perhaps they're moving on to Zaza?
Of course another very viable alternative is that Broussard doesn't know what he's talking about.........
crc21209
07-02-2009, 05:33 PM
It doesn't really make a difference anyways..
Gortat already accepted an offer from Dallas, and now Orlando has to match..
so if Marcin was our #1 option, he's gone now..there's still plenty of time to make a pitch at Wallace, and you'd have to believe he was in our top 2 options..otherwise, I have no idea why they aren't as interested as they should be..
I for one am hoping Gortat is gone to the Mavs so we can hopefully get Sheed!
Parker2112
07-02-2009, 05:35 PM
The Polish Hammer cometh...:bike:
Spursfan092120
07-02-2009, 05:35 PM
Gortat just committed to the mavs. But if Gortat was the guy they liked over Sheed, perhaps they're moving on to Zaza?
McDyess?
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