Spurs leading race to sign McDyess...

[timvp]

Ruff, what do you think regarding Sheed vs. McDyess and which was the Spurs first option? McDonald keeps saying Sheed was the first option but it didn't seem like the Spurs gave much of an effort. Going all out for McDyess could mean McDyess has been the number one option all along .... or it could be the Spurs don't want to strike out on both :)

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

So, is anyone else going to guess the time we hear (from a reliable source) about this today? As I said on the last page, I'm going 2:38pm SA time.

[Mavs<Spurs]

What time is it over there?

Let's run a pool - I'm guessing that news of the signing will become official at 2:38pm.

It's about 8:15 a.m. in the San Antonio / Austin area.

I guess it will become official at 4:01 p.m. today.

:wakeup

[polandprzem]

This Saturday 7pm ET

PT :rolleyes

10 ET


You have time till the real info about McD come up :)

I would really appreciat it

[timvp]

So, is anyone else going to guess the time we hear (from a reliable source) about this today? As I said on the last page, I'm going 2:38pm SA time.

Hopefully it's at some point today. It sounds like McDyess wants one final meeting with Dumars. If Dumars tells him to hold on for a while, that would suck :shootme

[polandprzem]

i also think that Antonio is a better fot for the spurs then Rasheed would be. And it's not about his name, but the style of play.

[Cheddz]

I think we shoul look for an offcial infos from the reliable sources - that's it.

Like twitter!

[Texas_Ranger]

Oh man...Here in Slovenia it's already 3.20 P.M.. I gues I'll have to be up all night to hear some news.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Ruff, what do you think regarding Sheed vs. McDyess and which was the Spurs first option? McDonald keeps saying Sheed was the first option but it didn't seem like the Spurs gave much of an effort. Going all out for McDyess could mean McDyess has been the number one option all along .... or it could be the Spurs don't want to strike out on both :)

I always thought McDyess was the best fit and thus the guy we were targetting. I'm pretty sure there's a post or two stating that, either in this or the Sheed thread. However, having said that, the FO had to appear to be giving it a go in relation to Sheed to mollify the fanbase who otherwise would have rioted and stormed the AT&T demanding to know why we didn't pursue Sheed. Also, it is typical Spurs style to make some noise in one direction whilst actually going in the other, so that fits the profile too.

As you say, the FO didn't really try that hard for Sheed - if they were serious there would have been a delegation sent to his doorstep ala Boston. But I think they knew that Sheed is not a Spurs kinda guy - Boston wasn't just a good fit for him from a basketball perspective, but also a media exposure perspective, and an existing relationships perspective (KG).

And yeah, why not have a go at both.

Return question for you - Gist is all over town telling people he's playing for the Spurs this year, but how does that fit with the Haislip signing? Is their intention to mould James into the backup 3?

[completely deck]

Hopefully it's at some point today. It sounds like McDyess wants one final meeting with Dumars. If Dumars tells him to hold on for a while, that would suck :shootme

Talk about nail biter.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Hopefully it's at some point today. It sounds like McDyess wants one final meeting with Dumars. If Dumars tells him to hold on for a while, that would suck :shootme

Yeah, I was assuming they'd be having brunch today at the Cheescake Factory! :lol

[timvp]

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/

McDonald has 1.5 new blog posts. But they don't say anything we don't now.

In the second blog post, it looks like he was about to do the math of how much McDyess' contract would cost Holt in luxury tax and then gave up :lol

[completely deck]

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/

McDonald has 1.5 new blog posts. But they don't say anything we don't now.

In the second blog post, it looks like he was about to do the math of how much McDyess' contract would cost Holt in luxury tax and then gave up :lol

Thats my McDonald! :downspin:

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/

McDonald has 1.5 new blog posts. But they don't say anything we don't now.

In the second blog post, it looks like he was about to do the math of how much McDyess' contract would cost Holt in luxury tax and then gave up :lol

:lol

Bruno should definitely have his job. Actually, a tag team of Bruno, you and Kori, and the 48moh guys would make an incredible Spurs blog... ;)

BTW, you really should update your trophies - shouldn't you have about 4 more of them up there (damn you!)? Also, I'm liking my Pierce for Harden trade right now (Harden is a Spurs kinda guy - love his game, and he landed in a perfect situation in OKC), and getting Earl Clark back (only better fit for him would've been the Warriors, and then maybe not because they are stacked with similar guys). My DL II team will be a surprise this year methinks, and in DL I I've got the same killer top 7, but no draft picks. Wanna take Kidd or Nash off my hands for some picks? :lol

[Pistons < Spurs]

So, is anyone else going to guess the time we hear (from a reliable source) about this today? As I said on the last page, I'm going 2:38pm SA time.

11:46ET

Villenueva is in town, and I suspect Gordon is aswell, to sign their deals. And it sounds like Joe's made the decision on the HC position. So there's likely to be a presser today, and I'd like to think he'll have the Dice situation settled one way or another by the time he addresses the media.

[benefactor]

Perhaps he is waiting for Bruno to do the math for him. :)

[alamo50]

That would be awesom to sign Dice.
A true player worthy to be in silver and black.
Just sign Antonio!

:flag:

[timvp]

Return question for you - Gist is all over town telling people he's playing for the Spurs this year, but how does that fit with the Haislip signing? Is their intention to mould James into the backup 3?
I've been trying to figure out that Gist question and I think there might be room for him on the team if you consider the Toros. Mahinmi can't play in Austin anymore, neither can Marcus Williams.

So even if Gist is the seventh big and would never get playing time with the Spurs, he might be brought over to lead the Toros this year. Outside of Gist, the only player that makes sense for the Toros is Hairston -- but Hairston isn't really a d-league player to build around.

So yeah, if Gist is put on the Mahinmi plan of being the franchise player in Austin, the Spurs may think that's good for Gist and good for the Toros.

[benefactor]

Lots of good things seem to be going our direction since my head hit the pillow last night. If we can get past the meeting with Dumars then we are home free. After being burned so many times, I am trying hard not to get my hopes too high...but things look very, very promising.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I've been trying to figure out that Gist question and I think there might be room for him on the team if you consider the Toros. Mahinmi can't play in Austin anymore, neither can Marcus Williams.

So even if Gist is the seventh big and would never get playing time with the Spurs, he might be brought over to lead the Toros this year. Outside of Gist, the only player that makes sense for the Toros is Hairston -- but Hairston isn't really a d-league player to build around.

So yeah, if Gist is put on the Mahinmi plan of being the franchise player in Austin, the Spurs may think that's good for Gist and good for the Toros.

Yeah, that makes sense to me. Maybe James should lower his expectations a little though. I've seen at least two reports of him saying he'll be playing for the Spurs this year. I hope he doesn't get discouraged if he spends most of his time with the Toros.

[rayray2k8]

You know it's funny, Gist keeps telling everyone that he will play for the spurs this season, but I don't see where he'll get playing time..

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Parker/Hill/Williams or McClinton
Mason/Manu/Hairston
RJ/Finley/Gist
Dice/Bonner/Haislip
TD/Mahinmi/Blair

I'd go to war with that squad any day.

If that's the way we end up, what an incredible job of getting younger and rebuilding on the fly whilst still contending. If that's the way it works out, the FO-bashers should really STFU.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

You know it's funny, Gist keeps telling everyone that he will play for the spurs this season, but I don't see where he'll get playing time..

Try reading the posts above! :lol

[picnroll]

Yeah, that makes sense to me. Maybe James should lower his expectations a little though. I've seen at least two reports of him saying he'll be playing for the Spurs this year. I hope he doesn't get discouraged if he spends most of his time with the Toros.
Maybe Spurs want him to learn their system in Austin so he's good to go in 2011.

Mahinmi better show something real soon or he's toast.

[timvp]

Gotta go to a business meeting :depressed

Who wants to do me a favor and send me a text if any major McDyess news hits? :angel

[timvp]

Oh well, someone at least send up a smoke signal.

Thanks.

[polandprzem]

Gotta go to a business meeting :depressed

Who wants to do me a favor and send me a text if any major McDyess news hits? :angel

I may do that, but I don't know how much time it will take this message to go from poland to usa texas ///?

[Marcus Bryant]

I'll let you know when the castration of scottspurs is complete.

[oligarchy]

Gotta go to a business meeting :depressed

Who wants to do me a favor and send me a text if any major McDyess news hits? :angel

PM your number and I'll send a text.

[scottspurs]

I'll let you know when the castration of scottspurs is complete.

My balls are going nowhere.

[mudyez]

I'm going to play some beachbasketball (not sure, if US peaple know something like that)...and when I'm back, I expect us to have signed either Dyess or Splitter!

if not so be it...I'm fine with everything our FO does!

[Muser]

Damn, even after College still no news :(.

[will_spurs]

Maybe the extra-wait is sign of respect for Detroit fans, making the decision look a lot more difficult than it actually is?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Let's keep the pool going guys - what time will reliable news about what Dice is doing come out today? A number of people have already had a go on pages 30 and 31, so get to it!

In other news, I'd forgotten what a nasty biatch the flu is. :depressed Question - should I go the codiene and with it the nice floatiness, but also the constipation, or just stick to the paracetamol (I think you call it acetaminophen)?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Also, England 3-162 midway through the post-lunch session of the First Ashes Test of 2009. It's no fun watching the Aussies without Warne and McGrath though. I wonder if anyone in here understands what I'm talking about? :lmao

Better go check my temperature again... :oops

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Maybe the extra-wait is sign of respect for Detroit fans, making the decision look a lot more difficult than it actually is?

What "extra wait"? Today is the first day FAs can sign, and it's 9am in SA! :lol

[benefactor]

My balls are going nowhere.
If you ever plan on having kids you might want to rethink that strategy.

[will_spurs]

Yes we know, you just destroyed your street cred by admitting you watch cricket.

[Dex]

Ahh, FA speculations. It's like the Blog of the Offseason.

[will_spurs]

What "extra wait"? Today is the first day FAs can sign, and it's 9am in SA! :lol

Extra-wait compared to all the deals that will unfold today but that have been confirmed already.

[benefactor]

Let's keep the pool going guys - what time will reliable news about what Dice is doing come out today? A number of people have already had a go on pages 30 and 31, so get to it!

In other news, I'd forgotten what a nasty biatch the flu is. :depressed
I am going to say just before lunch...probably between 11-12.

[scottspurs]

Let's keep the pool going guys - what time will reliable news about what Dice is doing come out today? A number of people have already had a go on pages 30 and 31, so get to it!

In other news, I'd forgotten what a nasty biatch the flu is. :depressed Question - should I go the codiene and with it the nice floatiness, but also the constipation, or just stick to the paracetamol (I think you call it acetaminophen)?

3:35 p.m. SA time.

[Dex]

Ruff, what do you think regarding Sheed vs. McDyess and which was the Spurs first option? McDonald keeps saying Sheed was the first option but it didn't seem like the Spurs gave much of an effort. Going all out for McDyess could mean McDyess has been the number one option all along .... or it could be the Spurs don't want to strike out on both :)

I was thinking about this as well last night. If what McDonald says is true about the Spurs offering Dice the third year, do you think they played that same chip with Rasheed?

If not, do you think this is a sign that McDyess has been their primary target all along, or do you think this is just aggressive bargaining tactics since one of our options is already off the market?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Yes we know, you just destroyed your street cred by admitting you watch cricket.

I'm Australian. It's the Ashes (one of the oldest international sporting contests in the world, dating back to 1882). What do you expect? :rolleyes


I am going to say just before lunch...probably between 11-12.

Gotta be specific to the minute to be fair. ;)

[Texas_Ranger]

1 p.m.

[HarlemHeat37]

You guys predicting the time is going to jinx the fuck outta this LOL..

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

You guys predicting the time is going to jinx the fuck outta this LOL..

Nah, I came up with it and specifically said "reliable info on what Dice is doing" ie. not presuming he's signing with us, thus no jinx. ;)

[tp2021]

11:28 am

[The_Game]

Gotta go to a business meeting :depressed

Who wants to do me a favor and send me a text if any major McDyess news hits? :angel

I doubt anything happens for a little while. Think it may be at least a few days.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Shane Warne was to cricket what Tiger is to golf, Armstrong is to cycling and MJ is to basketball - a once in a lifetime player with an unsurpassable killer competitive instinct. He did things no player has ever done before. I miss him dearly, even though he was a complete wanker off the field.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

5 years for the Birdman!? Isn't he 30? I guess it's probably 3 guarunteed, two team option.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4312934

[benefactor]

I doubt anything happens for a little while. Think it may be at least a few days.
Depends on what is said at the meeting with Dumars. If he convinces Dice that he might be able to get the money together to keep him then things could drag. If he wishes him well, then he will likely commit to SA today.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Depends on what is said at the meeting with Dumars. If he convinces Dice that he might be able to get the money together to keep him then things could drag. If he wishes him well, then he will likely commit to SA today.

Nice assessment.

[Dex]

5 years for the Birdman!? Isn't he 30? I guess it's probably 3 guarunteed, two team option.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4312934

:lmao

Andersen is a good player, but he's not worth that deal. That contract is a burden waiting to happen to somebody.

[tp2021]

:lmao

Andersen is a good player, but he's not worth that deal. That contract is a burden waiting to happen to somebody.

Especially since it's freakin backloaded

[Stump]

I can't access the link. How much money is the deal for?

[Summers]

Gotta go to a business meeting :depressed

Who wants to do me a favor and send me a text if any major McDyess news hits? :angel

I'd love to help you (as one NWF to another) but I'm fixin' to take my kids to Target, then lunch, then a house viewing. I'm hoping to get a text from the Spurs while I'm out! :)

[lurker23]

I can't access the link. How much money is the deal for?

"...could make as much as $26 million from the deal, his agent, Mark Bryant, told the newspaper. Andersen could sign the contract as early as Wednesday, when the NBA's free agent signing period begins.

Andersen will earn $3.7 million next season from the contract, which is back-loaded and sweetened with performance incentives, Bryant said, according to the report. "

[SA210]

This offseason will have been a major success if they can get McDyess to sign.

Roll with us, Dice :smokin

We'd still miss Bruce regardless. Noone to slow down both Kobe and Artest or even Lebron should we be lucky to get that far without Bruce.

[G-Nob]

We'd still miss Bruce regardless. Noone to slow down both Kobe and Artest or even Lebron should we be lucky to get that far without Bruce.

I couldn't agree with you more.

[Spurs_9_20_21]

Sorry, I'm trying not to get too pumped about it... Scottspurs better be on point with this prediction. Last thing we need is crap for info, the newspapers do that for us already.
:lol Yeah I hope he is right! -crosses fingers-

[Spursmania]

Dammit-nothing new yet? Come on Dyess, can't be that hard. There should be a 2mill.+ difference between what we can offer and what the Pistons can offer.
Come play for a true contender for two years and then you can go back and live in Detriot forever...:bang

[Obstructed_View]

This link's about two hours old, but the update is from five minutes ago:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13221

The Rich Get Richer: Former Piston forward Antonio McDyess has agreed to join the San Antonio Spurs. Word is he'll sign a three-year deal with two years fully guaranteed and a third non-guaranteed year. McDyess coming off the market also changes the path of Brandon Bass. Rumor has it that New Orleans and Orlando are the strongest suitors for Bass, however sources close to Brandon's camp say with McDyess leaving Detroit, the Pistons - who have a little bit of change left under the salary cap after deals with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva - will pursue Bass.

[lefty]

Celtics restricted free agent forward Glen Davis will likely have to continue to be patient before he learns where he will be playing next season. According to an NBA source this morning, Davis is receiving interest from Boston, San Antonio, Detroit and New Orleans. San Antonio and Detroit are pursuing Detroit free agent forward Antonio McDyess and the team left without McDyess could immediately turn its attention to Davis. While the Hornets are very interested, financial concerns limit them to only a possible sign and trade deal for Davis. With Davis' restricted free agent status in mind, the Celtics are just patiently watching the situation knowing they can match any offer sheet



Yawn

[lefty]

This link's about two hours old, but the update is from five minutes ago:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13221

The Rich Get Richer: Former Piston forward Antonio McDyess has agreed to join the San Antonio Spurs. Word is he'll sign a three-year deal with two years fully guaranteed and a third non-guaranteed year. McDyess coming off the market also changes the path of Brandon Bass. Rumor has it that New Orleans and Orlando are the strongest suitors for Bass, however sources close to Brandon's camp say with McDyess leaving Detroit, the Pistons - who have a little bit of change left under the salary cap after deals with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva - will pursue Bass.

Epic fail

[Chomag]

We'd still miss Bruce regardless. Noone to slow down both Kobe and Artest or even Lebron should we be lucky to get that far without Bruce.

I still don't think we have heard the last of Bruce. At least I hope not. There is still plenty of time for our FO to do the right thing there.

[Obstructed_View]

Epic fail

:lol Don't shoot the messenger.

[lefty]

Another " Yawn "


Among those who could be chased are Drew Gooden, Antonio McDyess, Sean May, Joe Smith and Chris Wilcox. McDyess may have reached a verbal agreement elsewhere before you read this, leaving the Warriors with Gooden, May, Smith, Wilcox or someone outside the obvious box.


The new cap, tax and mid-level exception will go into effect at 9:01 p.m. Wednesday, when the league moratorium period ends and teams can begin signing free agents and making trades. The mid-level exception is $5.85 million for the 2009-10 season and the minimum team salary, set at 75 percent of the salary cap.

[lefty]

:lol Don't shoot the messenger.
:toast

[Obstructed_View]

I still don't think we have heard the last of Bruce. At least I hope not. There is still plenty of time for our FO to do the right thing there.

The Spurs are getting to the point now where roster spots are going to be at a premium, and they're going to have to make decisions on roster spots between vets that might not be able to contribute or young players that might develop into good players.

[Chomag]

This link's about two hours old, but the update is from five minutes ago:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13221

The Rich Get Richer: Former Piston forward Antonio McDyess has agreed to join the San Antonio Spurs. Word is he'll sign a three-year deal with two years fully guaranteed and a third non-guaranteed year. McDyess coming off the market also changes the path of Brandon Bass. Rumor has it that New Orleans and Orlando are the strongest suitors for Bass, however sources close to Brandon's camp say with McDyess leaving Detroit, the Pistons - who have a little bit of change left under the salary cap after deals with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva - will pursue Bass.

Sorry man, but I just can't find it in me to believe anything coming from hoopsworld. ( to many fails) but it would be great news if I'm proven wrong!

[Bruno]

I think McDyess will make his choice today and I'm quite confident that it will be Spurs.

[Spursmania]

Is Hoopsworld legit or not?

[benefactor]

I think McDyess will make his choice today and I'm quite confident that it will be Spurs.
Sure looks like it on paper. Hopefully that paper will have his signature on it soon.

[Obstructed_View]

Is Hoopsworld legit or not?

Oh hell no. There'd be a report from some other source if it were even close to true. I just thought it was interesting enough to post.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

The new cap, tax and mid-level exception will go into effect at 9:01 p.m. Wednesday, when the league moratorium period ends and teams can begin signing free agents and making trades. The mid-level exception is $5.85 million for the 2009-10 season and the minimum team salary, set at 75 percent of the salary cap.

Ah-ha! So nothing can actually happen for sure until 9pm. How strange. Long day ahead then... unless they meant 9am. 9pm makes no sense.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I think McDyess will make his choice today and I'm quite confident that it will be Spurs.

Me too. Have been for a week.

[SA210]

I still don't think we have heard the last of Bruce. At least I hope not. There is still plenty of time for our FO to do the right thing there.

I hope so, if we get him back I'll be so damn happy, but if not, I don't like our chances, knowing that we have NOONE to slow down both Kobe and Artest.

[TJastal]

The Spurs are getting to the point now where roster spots are going to be at a premium, and they're going to have to make decisions on roster spots between vets that might not be able to contribute or young players that might develop into good players.

It's time to head in a younger direction and loose the strings on Bowen.. we already got the 35 year old Finley taking up a roster spot and younguns waiting for their chance (Hairston, Gist). Jefferson gives us that solid defensive 3 they've been looking for, so there's really no role for Bruce anymore.

Jefferson and Finley then one of those young guys (Gist / Hairston / M.Williams) will be sufficient at the small forward spot.

[Chomag]

The Spurs are getting to the point now where roster spots are going to be at a premium, and they're going to have to make decisions on roster spots between vets that might not be able to contribute or young players that might develop into good players.

Oh I agree, but it still would be very nice to have a proven vet in Bruce on the team in case those players bust out. Actually I would love if Bruce did join up as an assistant coach to teach the youngens proper defense. However something seems to have happened between Pop and him so I don't think that could be an option while Pop is here.

By the way does anyone know if Jack Vauhn is still on the roster?

[CGD]

Oh I agree, but it still would be very nice to have a proven vet in Bruce on the team in case those players bust out. Actually I would love if Bruce did join up as an assistant coach to teach the youngens proper defense. However something seems to have happened between Pop and him so I don't think that could be an option while Pop is here.

By the way does anyone know if Jack Vauhn is still on the roster?


As of today, he and Ime are off the roster. They are UFA.

[Obstructed_View]

Oh I agree, but it still would be very nice to have a proven vet in Bruce on the team in case those players bust out. Actually I would love if Bruce did join up as an assistant coach to teach the youngens proper defense. However something seems to have happened between Pop and him so I don't think that could be an option while Pop is here.

By the way does anyone know if Jack Vauhn is still on the roster?

Vaughn and Udoka are free agents. They aren't Spurs anymore until they get signed to new contracts.

[TJastal]

If Finley wasn't on board I wouldn't have a problem with re-signing Bowen, because of his defense (and I believe that to be > than Fin's offense.)

But reality is that Finley is here, and he and Bowen together make makes the spurs too old at that position IMO.

[benefactor]

Ah-ha! So nothing can actually happen for sure until 9pm. How strange. Long day ahead then... unless they meant 9am. 9pm makes no sense.
As of today the mortatorium is up, so I think they can sign the contracts during the day today since they have the actual numbers. The 9pm thing seems like a technicality.

[Obstructed_View]

As of today the mortatorium is up, so I think they can sign the contracts during the day today since they have the actual numbers. The 9pm thing seems like a technicality.

Since ESPNtertainment is showing the Lakers news conference at 2 PM, I'd guess they can sign a little earlier than 9PM. The teams will need at least a day to submit the paperwork anyway.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

As of today the mortatorium is up, so I think they can sign the contracts during the day today since they have the actual numbers. The 9pm thing seems like a technicality.

I wouldn't be so sure. Contracts are all about technicalities! :lol

[tp2021]

If Finley wasn't on board I wouldn't have a problem with re-signing Bowen, because of his defense (and I believe that to be > than Fin's offense.)

But reality is that Finley is here, and he and Bowen together make makes the spurs too old at that position IMO.

I'm fairly certain that the Haislip signing means Bonner is getting traded. He would most likely be packaged with Finley in order to get someone of value (and a larger contract) in return.

I think that at some point, Pop, RC, and Holt had a meeting where they decided to forget the 2010 plan and go all-out this offseason. At this point, they probably realized that Bonner+Fin could be used in a trade, and were sure to tell Fin about the possibility. That may be why Fin waited til the last day to pick up his option-He had to accept the trade possibility.

These are still the Spurs, youth movement or not. Pop still values veterans, and I think the media ploy to make it seem like Bruce won't come back is working perfectly. If Bruce doesn't return, a chunk of my Spurs fandom will die.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Since ESPNtertainment is showing the Lakers news conference at 2 PM, I'd guess they can sign a little earlier than 9PM. The teams will need at least a day to submit the paperwork anyway.

Okay. SO the paperwork can only be submitted after 9pm. Still, why 9pm? Bruno? :lol

[benefactor]

I wouldn't be so sure. Contracts are all about technicalities! :lol
Yeah...but OV made a good point. Signatures on papers are useless until they are actually filed with the league. If you have the numbers you can draw up the contracts and get the signatures. They can be filed later that evening or the next day.

[urunobili]

I think McDyess will make his choice today and I'm quite confident that it will be Spurs.

That'd be sweet... he was my number 1 big from scratch... if that ends up happening we have a solid shot to contend for a title

[tp2021]

That'd be sweet... he was my number 1 big from scratch... if that ends up happening we have a solid shot to contend for a title

Part of me thinks that even after the Spurs get their MLE big, they could still make some moves.

Who are these people, and what have they done with my Spurs FO? :lol

[completely deck]

Okay. SO the paperwork can only be submitted after 9pm. Still, why 9pm? Bruno? :lol

Yeah, I don't know anything about 9 PM, I thought today was the day (at midnight EST)

[Spursmania]

Yeah...but OV made a good point. Signatures on papers are useless until they are actually filed with the league. If you have the numbers you can draw up the contracts and get the signatures. They can be filed later that evening or the next day.


They can all be signed today. It just wouldn't take effect until 9pm. It really is a minor technicality. It doesn't stop players from signing today as they literally do not have to wait until 9pm. The effective date and time the contract begins and ends is in the contract.:toast

EDIT: the 9pm time was a journalistic mistake as pointed out by Bruno. Thus, they may sign away...:hat

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't know about other moves after this..I think trades will depend entirely on the performances in the Summer League..not that it represents how good a player really is, but it gives you an idea..we have a good amount of SL players that have the potential to be role players for us this season..

[Bruno]

Okay. SO the paperwork can only be submitted after 9pm. Still, why 9pm? Bruno? :lol

It comes from Californian newspaper so 9:01PM = 0:01AM for the league that is in New York.

Now, I think the newspaper made a mistake while converting time and it is "9:01pm Tuesday" pacific time.

[Spursmania]

I don't know about other moves after this..I think trades will depend entirely on the performances in the Summer League..not that it represents how good a player really is, but it gives you an idea..we have a good amount of SL players that have the potential to be role players for us this season..

I wonder what the plans are for Haislip?

[mikeb2016]

Alright, just for fun and to keep the conversation going until we get the McDyess announcement at 3:47 pm, let me pose a question to all of you here.

IF, and when I say if, I mean it isn't actually happening, so this is simple hypothetical, irrelevant musing, we could get Lamar Odom or Marvin Williams, or someone else previously believed unattainable (David Lee and Paul Milsap would be on the list if they weren't RFAs) with the MLE due to the financial news for 2010 released by the NBA this morning, would you prefer any of those guys to the McDyess signing, or is Dice your current #1 no matter who is available right now?

The thought only occurs to me because of the ability to get a good value pickup when others are not willing to spend (I would say McDyess is not necessarily a great value pickup, but he is a great fit for a fair market price). A bird in the hand is always better than two in the bush...

[BlackBellamy]

That'd be sweet... he was my number 1 big from scratch... if that ends up happening we have a solid shot to contend for a title

Agreed. In my opinion he fits our needs better than Wallace. He rebounds on O and D, plays good inside D, contributes to the O with put-backs and open jumpers and he maintains focus and desire. We might actually end up being lucky in not signing Sheed. We have too many decent shooters on this team to bring in a chucker. Sheed has some better size, but Dice has a Spurs temperament. And a proven ten points/ ten rebounds a night? I'd say if all this rumor is true then we are that much closer to :lobt:

[tp2021]

Alright, just for fun and to keep the conversation going until we get the McDyess announcement at 3:47 pm, let me pose a question to all of you here.

IF, and when I say if, I mean it isn't actually happening, so this is simple hypothetical, irrelevant musing, we could get Lamar Odom or Marvin Williams, or someone else previously believed unattainable (David Lee and Paul Milsap would be on the list if they weren't RFAs) with the MLE due to the financial news for 2010 released by the NBA this morning, would you prefer any of those guys to the McDyess signing, or is Dice your current #1 no matter who is available right now?

The thought only occurs to me because of the ability to get a good value pickup when others are not willing to spend (I would say McDyess is not necessarily a great value pickup, but he is a great fit for a fair market price). But a bird in the hand is always better than two in the bush...

Odom would be a godsend, but it ain't happenin

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

It comes from Californian newspaper so 9:01PM = 0:01AM for the league that is in New York.

Now, I think the newspaper made a mistake while converting time and it is "9:01pm Tuesday" pacific time.

Of course! Nice work. Thanks. :)

Yet another example of terrible journalism.

[completely deck]

Alright, just for fun and to keep the conversation going until we get the McDyess announcement at 3:47 pm, let me pose a question to all of you here.


where are you getting this time

[BlackBellamy]

Alright, just for fun and to keep the conversation going until we get the McDyess announcement at 3:47 pm, let me pose a question to all of you here.

IF, and when I say if, I mean it isn't actually happening, so this is simple hypothetical, irrelevant musing, we could get Lamar Odom or Marvin Williams, or someone else previously believed unattainable (David Lee and Paul Milsap would be on the list if they weren't RFAs) with the MLE due to the financial news for 2010 released by the NBA this morning, would you prefer any of those guys to the McDyess signing, or is Dice your current #1 no matter who is available right now?

Dice #1
David Lee = Same stats on a shitty team.
Odom = streaky game
Williams < McDyess
Paul Milsap = Like his game, but he can get better value than Spurs can offer.

[Spursmania]

Lakers news conference at 1:30 CT. I wonder if they picked up Odom already.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

where are you getting this time

I suggested that for fun we guess the exact time reliable info on Dice's future appears.

[Obstructed_View]

The Lakers news conference is to announce Artest and Brown.

All this technicality stuff is just that. All we really care about is the verbal commitment. I consider a guy like Dice as good as signed once he announces his intentions to do so.

[completely deck]

I suggested that for fun we guess the exact time reliable info on Dice's future appears.

Gotcha :lol

[tp2021]

The Lakers news conference is to announce Artest and Brown.

All this technicality stuff is just that. All we really care about is the verbal commitment. I consider a guy like Dice as good as signed once he announces his intentions to do so.

Exactly the kind of character the Spurs look for.

[Spursmania]

The Lakers news conference is to announce Artest and Brown.

All this technicality stuff is just that. All we really care about is the verbal commitment. I consider a guy like Dice as good as signed once he announces his intentions to do so.

True. I think Piston fans would agree, Dyess is true to his word. I don't think he'll be pulling a "Hedo":lol

[Whisky Dog]

Anyone hear hoopsworld said Mickey D is coming to the spurs?

[will_spurs]

Lakers news conference at 1:30 CT. I wonder if they picked up Odom already.

Going to announce that they signed Karl Malone... oh wait nevermind.

[Texas_Ranger]

Anyone hear hoopsworld said Mickey D is coming to the spurs?

:wow

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[Death In June]

This story reeks of trade deadline optimism from last year.

[Flux451]

anyone have Pop's number? I want to get to the bottom of this.

[Obstructed_View]

True. I think Piston fans would agree, Dyess is true to his word. I don't think he'll be pulling a "Hedo":lol

I'd bet that one was more some retard from the Blazers telling the media that the deal was done before it was. Having Paul Allen's money behind you probabaly tends to make you overconfident. Unfortunately Paul Allen can't afford to make Portland any closer to Turkey.

[SA210]

The Lakers news conference is to announce Artest and Brown.



And to laugh at us for sending Bruce away.

[loveforthegame]

Looks like Bass has narrowed his options down to Orlando, Detroit, and Portland.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60422/20090708/bass_narrows_list_to_magic_blazers_pistons/


One factor holding up Bass from signing has been Antonio McDyess. “A lot of the teams are waiting to see what McDyess will do,” adds Dutt. “They’ve shown interest in him and want to wait for him to make a decision first.”

With McDyess rumored to be San Antonio bound, Bass could reach a deal with one of these suitors as early as Thursday.

[Spursmania]

ESPN is so full of shit. They just mentioned what was going on with Odom and they said it was pretty quiet, since he was wanting about 10m a year.
But, Portland is interested but not as much as people think.

And, that there is a dark horse in the race. The dark horse is SA which is interested in him and McDyess. Don't they know it's not possible to get Odom? :bang
Pisses me off, they are like amateur gossipers at this point.

[Obstructed_View]

And to laugh at us for sending Bruce away.

If the Spurs thought Bowen was worth having, they could get him with a phone call. So, for that matter, could the Lakers.

[tp2021]

If the Bucks wanted to buy Bruce out, when would they do that?

[z0sa]

Looks like Bass has narrowed his options down to Orlando, Detroit, and Portland.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60422/20090708/bass_narrows_list_to_magic_blazers_pistons/

Many seem to be assuming Dyess will be a Spur. Some of the same who called Sheed to Boston early. Let's hope they are correct.

[scottspurs]

ESPN is so full of shit. They just mentioned what was going on with Odom and they said it was pretty quiet, since he was wanting about 10m a year.
But, Portland is interested but not as much as people think.

And, that there is a dark horse in the race. The dark horse is SA which is interested in him and McDyess. Don't they know it's not possible to get Odom? :bang
Pisses me off, they are like amateur gossipers at this point.

I just saw that. ESPN is all about saying what people want to hear, not what is realistic.

[Dex]

If the Bucks wanted to buy Bruce out, when would they do that?

I believe they have until August 1st to buy him out. There has been some speculation that they are holding on to the contract as a bargaining chip, so it might be a while before we know.

[Obstructed_View]

If the Bucks wanted to buy Bruce out, when would they do that?

Oh, they haven't? Whoops. My mistake. :lol

[lurker23]

If the Bucks wanted to buy Bruce out, when would they do that?

His contract becomes fully guaranteed August 1, so sometime before that. One of the speculations I heard is that they will hold onto him up until that deadline to see if someone wants to obtain his contract in a trade.

[scottspurs]

If the Bucks wanted to buy Bruce out, when would they do that?

By August 1st if they don't want to pay the contract in full.

[Obstructed_View]

I just saw that. ESPN is all about saying what people want to hear, not what is realistic.

Just remember: At ESPN, "Entertainment" comes before "Sports".

[Spursmania]

If the Bucks wanted to buy Bruce out, when would they do that?


I read the Bucks are trying to see if Bruce can be dealt and traded before the August 1st deadline (someone correct me on the date if I'm wrong). If they don't waive him or deal him out by then, they will have to pay him the full 4 million of his contract. It's pretty safe to say if they have no takers, they will waive him. And only be obligated to pay him the 2 million he's guaranteed.

The article stated there were some bites, but nothing has transpired yet.

[Obstructed_View]

Out of curiosity, if Bruce is released, does he still have to wait the 30 days before the Spurs can re-sign him or did that go out the window when he wasn't immediately waived?

[urunobili]

Out of curiosity, if Bruce is released, does he still have to wait the 30 days before the Spurs can re-sign him or did that go out the window when he wasn't immediately waived?

I think you'll be a happier fan just letting it go... Even Manu said that he doesn't think Bruce will be back and he is a close friend...

[kbrury]

Out of curiosity, if Bruce is released, does he still have to wait the 30 days before the Spurs can re-sign him or did that go out the window when he wasn't immediately waived?

I believe its thirty days after the trade.

[scottspurs]

Out of curiosity, if Bruce is released, does he still have to wait the 30 days before the Spurs can re-sign him or did that go out the window when he wasn't immediately waived?

I believe you have to wait 30 days because he has not suited up for the Bucks in a game. I sure do hope Bruce finds his way back to SA.

[xtremesteven33]

I think you'll be a happier fan just letting it go... Even Manu said that he doesn't think Bruce will be back and he is a close friend...



CIA:toast

[z0sa]

I think you'll be a happier fan just letting it go... Even Manu said that he doesn't think Bruce will be back and he is a close friend...

If doesn't matter if a player, owner, or FO employee says it: ANYONE calls Bruce back to the spurs before he's waived and some time has passed, you can bet the League will gladly take RJ and our chances at a title away.

[Obstructed_View]

I think you'll be a happier fan just letting it go... Even Manu said that he doesn't think Bruce will be back and he is a close friend...

If I'd said "Out of love for Bruce and a burning desire to see him become a Spur again", then your suggestion would be appropriate. Since I said, "Out of curiosity"... :)

[Bruno]

Out of curiosity, if Bruce is released, does he still have to wait the 30 days before the Spurs can re-sign him or did that go out the window when he wasn't immediately waived?

If Bruce is waived, Spurs can re-sign him 20 days after that he was traded.
Bruce was traded on June 23rd.
Players also stay on waivers for one week.

So, if Bruce is waived today, all teams can't negotiate with him for one week. After that week, all teams (including Spurs) can negotiate with him and sign him.

[tp2021]

If Bruce is waived, Spurs can re-sign him 20 days after that he was traded.
Bruce was traded on June 23rd.
Players also stay on waivers for one week.

So, if Bruce is waived today, all teams can't negotiate with him for one week. After that week, all teams (including Spurs) can negotiate with him and sign him.

If Bruce is traded again, the Spurs can still sign him if he is waived by that team, right?

[Obstructed_View]

If Bruce is traded again, the Spurs can still sign him if he is waived by that team, right?

As of right now, the Spurs are equal with all teams. I can't imagine anything happening going forward to change that.

[Bruno]

If Bruce is traded again, the Spurs can still sign him if he is waived by that team, right?

Yes. The 20 days (it's 20 and not 30 because it's the offseason) clock has started when Spurs have traded him.

[xtremesteven33]

The more i look at Mcdyess and see his interviews he looks like your typical Spur. Humble, team first, loyal and passionate.

:tu come on dice....

[tp2021]

I am crossing my fingers that he comes back.

[Thomas]

I always liked Mcdeyss

[loveforthegame]

Of course nothing will happen while I'm sitting here.

Off to work now. Hopefully something will be announced by the time I get back.

[lefty]

The more i look at Mcdyess and see his interviews he looks like your typical Spur. Humble, team first, loyal and passionate.

:tu come on dice....

And he is old and ugly too

Perfect Spur !!!

[z0sa]

And he is old and ugly too

Perfect Spur !!!

What's ugly about him?

[xtremesteven33]

And he is old and ugly too

Perfect Spur !!!



wtf?
:lol

[will_spurs]

And he is old and ugly too

What about his FT shooting? That's the real deal-breaker.

[The_Game]

only problem with Dice is he is only 6'9 and can't block shots and his man to man D isn't amazing but everything else he ticks all the right boxes.

[Dex]

only problem with Dice is he is only 6'9 and can't block shots and his man to man D isn't amazing but everything else he ticks all the right boxes.

Then again, if he was 7'0 and still had hops, we probably wouldn't be getting him for just the MLE. And neither would anybody else.

We've already got three stars, borderline four with Jefferson. All we needs now is some role players. While I wish he did bring a little bit more in blocking to the table with Timmy getting older, I think McDyess fits the bill pretty damn well.

[BlackBellamy]

Then again, if he was 7'0 and still had hops, we probably wouldn't be getting him for just the MLE. And neither would anybody else.

We've already got three stars, borderline four with Jefferson. All we needs now is some role players. While I wish he did bring a little bit more in blocking to the table with Timmy getting older, I think McDyess fits the bill pretty damn well.

100% agreed. :tu

[The_Game]

Then again, if he was 7'0 and still had hops, we probably wouldn't be getting him for just the MLE. And neither would anybody else.

We've already got three stars, borderline four with Jefferson. All we needs now is some role players. While I wish he did bring a little bit more in blocking to the table with Timmy getting older, I think McDyess fits the bill pretty damn well.

i agree

for the MLE thats all you can ask for....Dice is a great person and a great team-mate and will fit in great with the Spurs

I pray you sign him as it will make our match-ups that much better to watch and argue about lol

[Spursmania]

:cheerWe want McDyess:cheer

[Obstructed_View]

:cheerWe want McDyess:cheer

I'm actually going to be rather disappointed if he goes elsewhere. Not enough to ruin this offseason, but it'll kill the buzz a bit.

[Mavs<Spurs]

I think that the First Amendment has been violated -- someone's right to free speech has been violated -- they closed the stupid threads -


:lmao

[Leetonidas]

This is the internet, technically. Constitutional rights don't matter on a privately owned message board.

[Obstructed_View]

Yep. This is a monarchy. Kori and LJ are the king and queen. We're all just peasants. Deal with it, folks.

[Spurm]

The Spurms want to sign McDyess??

Bwahahahahahahaha

That fossil is 35 years old!!!!


Hehehehehehe

Popazit's infatuation for geriatric players has reached a new level...
You Suck!

[Extra Stout]

http://www.magickrose.co.uk/images/blueballs.jpg

[Spur|n|Austin]

The Spurms want to sign McDyess??

Bwahahahahahahaha

That fossil is 35 years old!!!!


Hehehehehehe

Popazit's infatuation for geriatric players has reached a new level...
You Suck!

Switched over to a Magic fan huh spurm drinker?

[spurspokesman]

Yep. This is a monarchy. Kori and LJ are the king and queen. We're all just peasants. Deal with it, folks.

Lmao

[BlackBellamy]

The Spurms want to sign McDyess??

Bwahahahahahahaha

That fossil is 35 years old!!!!


Hehehehehehe

Popazit's infatuation for geriatric players has reached a new level...
You Suck!

Spork Killer maybe?

[Marcus Bryant]

http://www.magickrose.co.uk/images/blueballs.jpg

Ja, oder Dieses Leid (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/If_an_erection_last_longer_than_4_hours_should_you _call_the_doctor).

[Spursmania]

Pachulia is now off the market as well. I hope the FA is giving Dyess a deadline to make his decision or a lot of the quality players will be gone.

[easy7]

Switched over to a Magic fan huh spurm drinker?

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[timvp]

Come on, McDyess. Finish off S.A.'s starting five.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Ja, oder Dieses Leid (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/If_an_erection_last_longer_than_4_hours_should_you _call_the_doctor).

:lol I'd say a thread that is threatening to clear 1,000 posts in 24 hours qualifies as an e-priapism.

[crc21209]

Artest signed, Pachulia signed, Birdman signed, Gortat about to sign. Tick-tock, Tick-tock come on Dice!

[ATRAIN]

Come on, McDyess. Finish off S.A.'s starting five.

whats the hold up............is this not going to happen?

[timvp]

whats the hold up............is this not going to happen?

McDyess wants to give Dumars a chance to offer a comparable contract.

Patience is required.

[DBMethos]

Does anybody know what time his supposed meeting with Dumars was supposed to take place?

[lefty]

37 pages and nothing yet......

We're about to hit the Spurs' average age.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

And the deafening silence continues. This is what we get for targeting old farts who aren't hip enough to Twitter every last damn thing they are doing.

[crc21209]

Does anybody know what time his supposed meeting with Dumars was supposed to take place?

It better damn well be today...we can't wait forever. The big men are dropping like flies to other teams already.

[K-State Spur]

37 pages and nothing yet......

We're about to hit the Spurs' average age.

might have been funny last year...

[lefty]

might have been funny last year...
:lol

[lefty]

And the deafening silence continues. This is what we get for targeting old farts who aren't hip enough to Twitter every last damn thing they are doing.
:lmao

[Brazil]

Come on, McDyess. Finish off S.A.'s starting five.

Yes come on Dice, make it happen.

I'm thrilled at the idea to eventually see this starting 5 : TP / Manu / RJ / TD / Dice against the lakers one : Fish / Kobe / Artest / Odom / Gasoft or the Celts one : Rondo / Allen / Pierce / KG / Sheed.... crazy match ups

[bigdog]

I fully expect to hear a decision by the end of the day tomorrow. I don't know why, but I just feel that he will make his decision by then....and....hopefully it's the Spurs.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I fully expect to hear a decision by the end of the day tomorrow. I don't know why, but I just feel that he will make his decision by then....and....hopefully it's the Spurs.

You get bonus points for not starting a new thread to say this.

Unless this was merged from a thread you started.

[mikeb2016]

Come on, McDyess. Finish off S.A.'s starting five.


timvp,

Just bare with me a little foolishness...if we miss out on McDyess (and no one here is hoping for that), what should the FO do with the MLE? We hear that they may go after Big Baby, maybe go after Bass, but I would contend that if either of those guys cost you most or all of the MLE, they are not worth it.

In your opinion, is there anyone left who is worth the full MLE, if we assume that Odom, Marvin Williams, David Lee, Paul Milsap, etc. cannot be had with the MLE?

[timvp]

timvp,

Just bare with me a little foolishness...if we miss out on McDyess (and no one here is hoping for that), what should the FO do with the MLE? We hear that they may go after Big Baby, maybe go after Bass, but I would contend that if either of those guys cost you most or all of the MLE, they are not worth it.

In your opinion, is there anyone left who is worth the full MLE, if we assume that Odom, Marvin Williams, David Lee, Paul Milsap, etc. cannot be had with the MLE?
I think the first thing you do is tell Splitter that if he comes over now, he has the starting center job. If that doesn't work you look for a trade. Perhaps the Spurs can land a Camby, Foster or Collison. If that doesn't work out, you gotta make a decision between Brandon Bass and Drew Gooden. (I'd probably go with Bass but it depends on contractual demands.)

But it's fair to say that missing out on McDyess would be a fairly huge blow. The Plan C options aren't very appealing. Splitter will be difficult to attain and there's a chance he's not even as good as Rasho right out of the box. Trading for a big is always difficult. Bass will be overpaid and Gooden isn't a very good fit.

In other words . . .














http://doctorcannon.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/boy_dog_pray-jpg.jpg

[hater]

In other words . . .












"What up, bitches!"

http://www.depressedfan.com/img/drewgooden030209.jpg


fixed

[smackdaddy11]

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/SprungOnSports/194853

The Hornets have fallen out of the running for Brandon Bass, says the New Orleans Times-Picayune.

Could be good news. Det, NO and Dallas were involved. Does this mean Det upped the offer?

:toast

[galvatron3000]

Word is Splitter has a post game which if true automatically makes him better than Rasho, though rebounding is a real weakness.

[timvp]

Word is Splitter has a post game which if true automatically makes him better than Rasho, though rebounding is a real weakness.

Actually, Splitter and Rasho have almost the same post game and the same go-to move -- that ugly no-look, line-drive hook shot.

[galvatron3000]

Actually, Splitter and Rasho have almost the same post game and the same go-to move -- that ugly no-look, line-drive hook shot.

well, that shot that out the window quick...lol

[Obstructed_View]

Word is Splitter has a post game which if true automatically makes him better than Rasho, though rebounding is a real weakness.

The Spurs, as currently constructed, don't need a center to score points. They were fine with Bowen's defense all these years and now have a guy capable of scoring 30 in his place. Baskets from that position are going to be gravy, and they're going to come from a player who can score without plays being called for him.

[DBMethos]

This is taking friggin' forever...WE WANT DICE!!! :makemyday:hungry::flag::lobt2:

[benefactor]

Fuck, no word yet?
Nope. My anxiety is increasing a bit...especially after reading timvp's rather bleak above assessment of the alternatives.

[Brazil]

Fuck, no word yet?

:bang

[Darkwaters]

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/SprungOnSports/194853

The Hornets have fallen out of the running for Brandon Bass, says the New Orleans Times-Picayune.

Could be good news. Det, NO and Dallas were involved. Does this mean Det upped the offer?

:toast

The Hornets were chasing Bass? Really? He was an unwanted spare part in his time there originally. I'm not sure I'd want to go back.

[slick'81]

well mcdyess sure is taking his sweet time

[Darkwaters]

Sorry guys, I've been away for the last 4 days and don't feel like wading through 38 pages to figure it out. Is McDyess going to give an answer sometime today for certain or something?

[galvatron3000]

The Spurs, as currently constructed, don't need a center to score points. They were fine with Bowen's defense all these years and now have a guy capable of scoring 30 in his place. Baskets from that position are going to be gravy, and they're going to come from a player who can score without plays being called for him.

Yeah, but it's always a plus to have a guy at every position who can score when called upon, I'd like to have a rebounder and good position defender at the 5 but I also want someone who can score if need be. Especiaaly in the post. Tim will be holding the 5 down this year I believe so having a Mcdyess type guy is a plus then you have 5 guys who can score and are a threat when you go to the bench you want to sub with guys who don't take much away from the starting 5 or atleast bring something that the starters don't and impact the game. That's one of the reason D Rob is missed he could still score even the shell of himself version.

[anjlbitz]

Yeah. Splitter has a horrible post up game. And I agree with timvp on that ugly hook shot.

The thing about Splitter that I think is making everyone go "ga-ga" for him is that he's really active around the rim, especially defensively. He can defend on the post and he usually doesn't bite on pump fakes. He also has a penchant for blocking/altering shots. He's also very mobile, he can run on breaks instead of lagging behind like most centers. If he adds a semi-reliable jumpshot he'll be the most perfect complement to Timmy since DRob.


With that said, I don't really want to put all my hopes into the 5% chance that Splitter will come over this season. Which is why I'm praying hard that McDyess signs with us soon (if not today)

[completely deck]

Come onnnnnnn

[Darkwaters]

Yeah. Splitter has a horrible post up game. And I agree with timvp on that ugly hook shot.

The thing about Splitter that I think is making everyone go "ga-ga" for him is that he's really active around the rim, especially defensively. He can defend on the post and he usually doesn't bite on pump fakes. He also has a penchant for blocking/altering shots. He's also very mobile, he can run on breaks instead of lagging behind like most centers. If he adds a semi-reliable jumpshot he'll be the most perfect complement to Timmy since DRob.


With that said, I don't really want to put all my hopes into the 5% chance that Splitter will come over this season. Which is why I'm praying hard that McDyess signs with us soon (if not today)

Splitters really not much of a shot-blocker. Hes more likely to hold his position than go for the block.

[nkdlunch]

it's been said Splitter is as good or better than Scola. That's all we need to know.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah. Splitter has a horrible post up game. And I agree with timvp on that ugly hook shot.

The thing about Splitter that I think is making everyone go "ga-ga" for him is that he's really active around the rim, especially defensively. He can defend on the post and he usually doesn't bite on pump fakes. He also has a penchant for blocking/altering shots. He's also very mobile, he can run on breaks instead of lagging behind like most centers. If he adds a semi-reliable jumpshot he'll be the most perfect complement to Timmy since DRob.


With that said, I don't really want to put all my hopes into the 5% chance that Splitter will come over this season. Which is why I'm praying hard that McDyess signs with us soon (if not today)

The reason the FO has a stiffie over Splitter is because he's exceptionally mobile on the perimeter for a big guy. He can hedge screens and rotate out on wings and not be completely out to dry.

[CubanMustGo]

Interesting that we also haven't heard anything about Sheed actually signing with Boston.

[lefty]

Interesting that we also haven't heard anything about Sheed actually signing with Boston.
Stop dreaming

[TD4THREE]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Houston make a run after him, now that they still have their MLE. Doesn't he live there?

[duncan228]

Interesting that we also haven't heard anything about Sheed actually signing with Boston.


Boston Celtics sign F Rasheed Wallace (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-celtics-wallace&prov=ap&type=lgns)

The Boston Celtics have signed veteran forward Rasheed Wallace, one of this year’s most coveted free agents.

Boston announced the move Wednesday, the first day teams were allowed to sign free agents.

Terms of the deal were not released. Wallace earned $13.68 million last season as he finished up a five-year contract with Detroit.

The 35-year-old Wallace, a four-time All-Star, can play the low post and has exceptional shooting range. He averaged 12 points per game for the Pistons last year.

Celtics general manager Danny Ainge said the team was “ecstatic” to add a player with Wallace’s talent and championship experience. He won a title with Detroit in 2004.

[Obstructed_View]

Houston getting that exception for Ariza worries me. How much money do they have to throw at McDyess?

[Spursfan092120]

Celtics general manager Danny Ainge said the team was “ecstatic” to add a player with Wallace’s talent and championship experience. He won a title with Detroit in 2004.
lol...I was just about to post that link...you beat me to it..as usual. :D

[Brazil]

^ lol at least for Sheed it's clear now

[crc21209]

Interesting that we also haven't heard anything about Sheed actually signing with Boston.

He has already officially signed with Boston:


Celtics Announce Signing Of Wallace

The Boston Celtics announced Wednesday that they have signed free agent center/forward Rasheed Wallace.

Per team policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed.

“We are ecstatic to be able to add a player the caliber of Rasheed Wallace to our team,” said Celtics President of Basketball Operations, Danny Ainge. “It is not every day that you can add a four-time All-Star and a player with championship experience.”

Wallace, a 6’11”, 230lbs center/forward, has averaged 15.0 points, 6.9 rebounds and 1.3 blocks in 33.9 minutes per game over his 14-year career. The former UNC Tar Heel has recorded 14 straight seasons of averaging 10 or more points, a tie for second most among active players along with new teammate Kevin Garnett and behind only Shaquille O’Neal. Wallace is one of 13 players in NBA history to make 13 consecutive appearances in the playoffs along with the likes of Kevin McHale, Bob Cousy, Robert Parish and Bill Russell.

Wallace also is one of only three players in NBA history to have recorded 150 three-point field goals, 150 blocks and 100 steals in his postseason career joining Scottie Pippen and Robert Horry.

The fourth overall pick in the 1995 NBA Draft has made four All-Star teams in his career (2000, 2001, 2006, 2008). Wallace has made two trips to the NBA Finals with the Detroit Pistons (2003-04 and 2004-05 seasons) winning the NBA Championship in the 2003-04 season. Wallace joins Shaquille O’Neal, Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan as the only four active players that have posted 15,000 points, 5,000 rebounds, 1,500 assists and 1,000 blocks in their careers.


http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60423/20090708/celtics_announce_signing_of_wallace/

[slick'81]

Celtics general manager Danny Ainge said the team was “ecstatic” to add a player with Wallace’s talent and championship experience. He won a title with Detroit in 2004.


*sigh* move on slick move on

[CubanMustGo]

Stop dreaming

Thanks, duncan228.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Houston getting that exception for Ariza worries me. How much money do they have to throw at McDyess?

If that shit happens stay tuned to CNN. I'll fucking rampage through downtown Houston like something out of Grand Theft Auto.

[scottspurs]

Houston getting that exception for Ariza worries me. How much money do they have to throw at McDyess?

McDyess is going to a contender. Not Houston.

[timvp]

Houston getting that exception for Ariza worries me. How much money do they have to throw at McDyess?

Exactly. Now Morey is going to offer McDyess three years fully guaranteed :depressed

[bigdog]

Houston getting that exception for Ariza worries me. How much money do they have to throw at McDyess?

I thought Houston used the MLE on Ariza? I know they were talking a potential sign and trade with LA, but I don't think that actually ever happened.

[Obstructed_View]

McDyess is going to a contender. Not Houston.

Houston took the NBA champs to seven games and should only be better this year. If they have more money to give McDyess, why wouldn't he consider it? I wouldn't put it past the Rockets' front office to do it. Plus, adding him makes a divisional opponent that much weaker.

[slick'81]

the longer mcdyess talks drag on the more i dont think it favors sa but hey it is only the first day guys can sign...no need to panic yet

[crc21209]

Exactly. Now Morey is going to offer McDyess three years fully guaranteed :depressed

Only thing is that the Spurs offer is close to that and we are a contender and Houston is not.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I thought Houston used the MLE on Ariza? I know they were talking a potential sign and trade with LA, but I don't think that actually ever happened.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130751

They used some injury exception rule with Yao's foot.

[Obstructed_View]

Exactly. Now Morey is going to offer McDyess three years fully guaranteed :depressed

Didn't the Spurs apply for an injury exception at one point and were told they had to wait until after the year the player was out to get compensation?

[DBMethos]

Fucking hell. Houston better not try anything. :ihit

[crc21209]

I thought Houston used the MLE on Ariza? I know they were talking a potential sign and trade with LA, but I don't think that actually ever happened.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130751

[bigdog]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130751

They used some injury exception rule with Yao's foot.

:depressed

[GooberNuts]

I thought Houston used the MLE on Ariza? I know they were talking a potential sign and trade with LA, but I don't think that actually ever happened.

The were able to sign Ariza using the Disabled Player's Exception or something like that since Yao is projected to be out for the season. So now Houston still has the MLE to use.

Remember how people were speculating that Dice wanted to come to the Spurs due to the proximity to his Houston home, well, yea...

[BlackBellamy]

Houston getting that exception for Ariza worries me. How much money do they have to throw at McDyess?

Maybe they could throw that cheese at Odom instead? :stirpot: That would be some shit! :lol

[Brazil]

Exactly. Now Morey is going to offer McDyess three years fully guaranteed :depressed

now I'm worried

[Ariel]

Exactly. Now Morey is going to offer McDyess three years fully guaranteed :depressed
I'm not sure that´s in their best interest, considering he doesn't put them over the hump and it's now more evident than ever they can't win now and need to think a few years ahead.

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I think I'm gonna change my avatar...

[crc21209]

This is BS...if Dice doesnt come to the Spurs today or tomorrow forget it, he's not coming. And we cant be waiting on him forever...

[timvp]

Didn't the Spurs apply for an injury exception at one point and were told they had to wait until after the year the player was out to get compensation?

Charles Smith. And, IIRC, they never did end up getting it.

I've never seen an injury exception granted overnight like the Rockets just got.

[scottspurs]

Houston took the NBA champs to seven games and should only be better this year. If they have more money to give McDyess, why wouldn't he consider it? I wouldn't put it past the Rockets' front office to do it. Plus, adding him makes a divisional opponent that much weaker.

What the Rockets did last year despite all the injuries was great, but they will eventually hurt you. Plus, Mcdyess is not going to Houston.

[crc21209]

I'm not sure that´s in their best interest, considering he doesn't put them over the hump and it's now more evident than ever they can't win now and need to think a few years ahead.

True. They could want some young legs instead...

[GooberNuts]

I think I'm gonna change my avatar...

haha I'm blaming your avatar for jinxing it if Dice decides not to come

[Marcus Bryant]

I've never seen an injury exception granted overnight like the Rockets just got.

[crc21209]

Charles Smith. And, IIRC, they never did end up getting it.

I've never seen an injury exception granted overnight like the Rockets just got.

I've never seen that either...Hmm...

[xtremesteven33]

I think I'm gonna change my avatar...


:downspin:

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haha I'm blaming your avatar for jinxing it if Dice decides not to come

Okay, but for the record I never had a Rasheed av.

[Muser]

Fuck this Houston stuff has me scared :(

[slick'81]

fck Houston this is bull shit HA

[Brazil]

What the Rockets did last year despite all the injuries was great, but they will eventually hurt you. Plus, Mcdyess is not going to Houston.

scott in fact you drive me nuts with your optimistic posts, if you know something, back up the stuff and say it for christ sake.

or maybe you're a Houston jinxing troll

[Obstructed_View]

Charles Smith. And, IIRC, they never did end up getting it.

I've never seen an injury exception granted overnight like the Rockets just got.

This is the most baffling fucking thing I've ever seen. Waiting until today to drop that on the rest of the teams is bad enough, but the Morey has a boner for fucking with Spurs personnel moves.

[Obstructed_View]

What the Rockets did last year despite all the injuries was great, but they will eventually hurt you. Plus, Mcdyess is not going to Houston.

I'm starting to really hate when you make predictions.

[galvatron3000]

Houston took the NBA champs to seven games and should only be better this year. If they have more money to give McDyess, why wouldn't he consider it? I wouldn't put it past the Rockets' front office to do it. Plus, adding him makes a divisional opponent that much weaker.

nah, they lost Artest, Yao is down for most or all season, McGrady is a question mark so the team they have now will fight but not have the weapons needed to sustain them during the regular season, IMO. Denver's offseason is more of a concern to me and I don't think they can beat the Spurs

[BlackBellamy]

What amount are the Lakers trying to retain Odom for (money wise)?

[loveforthegame]

This is getting ridiculous now. Make a decision already.

[Muser]

This is getting ridiculous now. Make a decision already.


+1 :wakeup

[xtremesteven33]

Does Houston have enough to sign Odom?

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nah, they lost Artest, Yao is down for most or all season, McGrady is a question mark so the team they have now will fight but not have the weapons needed to sustain them during the regular season, IMO. Denver's offseason is more of a concern to me and I don't think they can beat the Spurs

What you think they might be able to do is irrelevant. What they did in the postseason without McGrady and without Yao is what matters. They lost Artest, but they got back Ariza and will likely get back Tmac. They can make a case to McDyess and throw him some extra money. Any Spurs fan that isn't worried is being foolish.

[anjlbitz]

Splitters really not much of a shot-blocker. Hes more likely to hold his position than go for the block.

Yeah I meant to put that. He's a good positional defender.

During FIBA Americas, I was impressed by that and he seems to have a good knack for when to go for the block and when to hold his position.

[timvp]

Morey and Pritchard live to F with the Spurs. Morey hates the Spurs because Lindsey is his arch-nemesis (long story but ownership picked Morey over Lindsey and the two never got along after that) and Pritchard is mad that the Spurs fast-tracked Presti over him.

Let's just hope Morey takes his money elsewhere.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Dice, I know you're reading this thread. I live in Houston. I am a Spurs fan. My wife is a Spurs fan. I'm pretty confident that she'd help me get rid of the body if you sign with the Rockets. Houston's a big city, but are you willing to stake it all on the city being big enough that I never see you? Just some food for thought.

[Muser]

Hopefully Houston fucks up the Lakers more by going after Odom, but that's just me being hopeful that they don't try anything with Dice :(

[SonOfAGun]

It's fucking great to be waiting on a European big man that won't come to the Spurs year after year.

I was very bummed we missed out on Sheed. If we don't get Dice ...:depressed