Game Blog: 12/11 - Spurs vs. Bobcats

[td4mvp21]

These refs are fucking incompetent.

[Brazil]

TP is struggling with the TOs but he is definately trying to adapt his game it's almost chocking so far he took if the boxscore is correct 2 shots (only 2 !!), dished 6 assists + 1 stl and 3 tos.

[Chieflion]

Manu Ginobili is back!

[Chieflion]

TP is struggling with the TOs but he is definately trying to adapt his game it's almost chocking so far he took if the boxscore is correct 2 shots (only 2 !!), dished 6 assists + 1 stl and 3 tos.
Game is on. Watch it.

[itzsoweezee]

manu haters eat a dick

[timtonymanu]

What's up with Nazr getting the star treatment?

[Ice009]

WHY DOES THEO get no court time???????????

[siraulo23]

THEO Block!

[Chieflion]

Theo Ratliff, mother fuckers!

[SCdac]

That is EXACTLY why we should be giving Ratliff spot minutes more often... that kind of block sets the tone.

[Death In June]

Goddamn

[Libri]

Ratliff doing what he does best!

[Spurs Brazil]

Manu tres!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

lol manu 20 in a quarter?

[timaios]

MAnuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[timtonymanu]

Holy shit Manuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!

[urunobili]

lol the Spurs trying to run like the suns... we fail that way!

[angelbelow]

damn Manu! no hesitation.

[siraulo23]

wth happened to the stream

[Danny.Zhu]

Manu is shooting 39% behind the arc this season before tonight.

[itzsoweezee]

what does ratliff have to do to get more playing time? because every time he gets a chance, he plays well

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

This just illustrates how much of a confidence player Manu is - 2 games ago he looked slow and hesitant, then he makes a few nice plays last game, and this game he's showing his full arsenal, and against a supposedly good defensive team.

Welcome back, Manu! :toast

[Xevious]

Theo break dancing

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

ball dont lie !

[Chieflion]

Why is everyone in foul trouble?

[Ice009]

LOL Theo looked like he was trying to do some breakdancing.

[Ice009]

Good point.

Very, very good point.

[Libri]

lol manu 20 in a quarter?:chestbump

[Death In June]

TP needs to sit for a month

[Chieflion]

Tony Parker turns the ball over, damn the full court press.

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

wtf is TP doin???????he forgot how to play PG??

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

what does ratliff have to do to get more playing time? because every time he gets a chance, he plays well

I guess it's a question of play Grizzly or Theo, and most of the time they choose to develop Grizzly.

BTW, TP is having a fucking SHOCKER.

[td_tp_manu]

I'm sorry. But is Blair injured?

[angelbelow]

my goodness..

[Brazil]

tp needed help on this one

[Ice009]

Wow parker is awfullllllllllllllllllllllll

wow.

[45 bank shot]

TP is so shit

[HarlemHeat37]

Charlotte is the 3rd ranked D in the NBA too, so this is good to see..

[urunobili]

no teammate helping Parker? WTF?

[angelbelow]

I'm sorry. But is Blair injured?

I think someone mentioned that Blair screwed up a play and Pop yanked him. But apparently Blair wasnt very receptive to Pops lecture.

[Chieflion]

tp needed help on this one
He didn't help his case when he picked up the dribble at the backcourt.

[TPnumber1]

no help on his las to...

shut up tp haters

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

got killed on a simple trap argh...

[Spurs Brazil]

Very good 1st half

It's great to see Manu playing like that. TD and Bogans were also good

TOs are the bad thing again: 13

[Brazil]

no teammate helping Parker? WTF?

exactly

[androck]

13 TOs in the 1st half?

[Chieflion]

13 turnovers by the half. When is this team gonna learn?

[Libri]

no teammate helping Parker? WTF?

Pop is going to be pissed.

[Ice009]

TP looks like a shell of his former self this season.

If TP keeps playing like this then I've never seen a player before at his age look like a shell of himself.

Is he still hurt?

[HarlemHeat37]

I used to ask for Ratliff too, but after seeing the way Pop plays him, I think I'm buying into the theory that we're going to see a lot more Ratliff in January/February and on..he really is one of the more injury prone players in the NBA, so there isn't a point in putting too much mileage on him..

the guy is going to be an asset for us in the next few months IMO..

[MB20]

Can't watch the game.
Here's hoping TP plays a good 2nd half. By your comments, he is struggling out there. But boxscore says he has 7 ast.

[45 bank shot]

13 turnovers by the half. When is this team gonna learn?

As long as tony starts handling the rock with care

[boutons_deux]

Whay has Tony has got his head up his ass this season?

[Danny.Zhu]

17 assists in the first half, not bad.

[androck]

Bogans had a great half. 17 minutes, 6 pts on 2/3 shooting, 5 reb, 2 ast, 3 stl. That's the kind of production I'd like to see from him, on pace for a double-double!

[DesignatedT]

blair will be very irrelevant during our playoff run. doesnt matter if he is getting minutes now or not. i only expect him to play spot minutes if our bigs our in foul trouble come the 2nd half of the season. expect a lot more dyess and some more ratliff

[Chieflion]

Gerald Wallace disappeared this game. Good job, Spurs.

[Brazil]

Wow parker is awfullllllllllllllllllllllll

wow.

awful ? wtf ?

list of reclamations
1) tp is selfish he doesn't pass the ball result 6 assists in a half
2) tp is a ballhog only looking for his own shot result he shot the ball 3 times
3) his fts are awful result 3-3
4) wow a turnover machine result 3 tos which is bad ok but I don't think he deserved a parker is awful

[timaios]

Damn, I haven't seen Tony this bad at finishing at the rim since his rookie year. Fuck France and its national team. :pctoss

Last year, his %FG was 50.6 %
This year, it's 50.8 %

That's +0.2 %... Thanks French NT :wakeup

And yes he's awful tonight, but who cares Manu is BACK !!! :flag::flag::flag:

[Chieflion]

awful ? wtf ?

list of reclamations
1) tp is selfish he doesn't pass the ball result 6 assists in a half
2) tp is a ballhog only looking for his own shot result he shot the ball 3 times
3) his fts are awful result 3-3
4) wow a turnover machine result 3 tos which is bad ok but I don't think he deserved a parker is awful
Actually 4 turnovers, but lets not get carried away here. He is trying to change his game though.

[Brazil]

TP looks like a shell of his former self this season.

If TP keeps playing like this then I've never seen a player before at his age look like a shell of himself.

Is he still hurt?

answer not fully healthy see recent tp interview

[Ice009]

Can't watch the game.
Here's hoping TP plays a good 2nd half. By your comments, he is struggling out there. But boxscore says he has 7 ast.

TP is doing some good things out there. He is getting some good assists, which is great, but man he still doesn't look like TP.

[SCdac]

If I had to speculate on Blair, I'd say he's looked sort of "flat footed" and out of place in that minute of this game, and his 14 minutes of last game. Kind of just going through the motions, not quite as spry. That's just my opinion at least, I'd sum it up to rookie treatment. Pop sure has been quick to sub Bonner in for him. On say the Nets or the Bucks, Blair would be getting 20+ mpg easily... As far as Ratliff goes, I don't mind his minutes hedging into Blairs or Bonners, he has the size, the shot blocking, and seems as limber as ever.

[raspsa]

13 TOs at he half.. they need to take better care of the ball. TP having one of the worst games of his NBA carreer.. maybe do an Artest and have some cognac in the locker room.. I wonder if the refs can cite him for a PUI ie. playing under the influence

[bigdog]

Turnovers and fouls are gonna hurt the Spurs, but as long as they can stay consistent, they'll win this game.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

no help on his las to...

shut up tp haters

So TP is having a good game, is he?

Pointing out that he's playing poorly today doesn't make one a "hater". :rolleyes

[raspsa]

Pop's going to have to break Blair of his attitude problem.

..but carefully lest Blair rip his arm off.:depressed

[Brazil]

Actually 4 turnovers, but lets not get carried away here. He is trying to change his game though.

4 tos if u want, 6 or 7 assists ?

[timaios]

awful ? wtf ?

list of reclamations
1) tp is selfish he doesn't pass the ball result 6 assists in a half
2) tp is a ballhog only looking for his own shot result he shot the ball 3 times
3) his fts are awful result 3-3
4) wow a turnover machine result 3 tos which is bad ok but I don't think he deserved a parker is awful

1) 7 ast
2) you're right
3) 2/2 ft
4) 4 to

1 of 4... not bad :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm gonna give Tony a pass if we're winning games, because at least he's clearly trying to change up his style..it takes a while to go from a scoring PG to a passing PG, which is something he hasn't really been in the past..

With the way Tony's been struggling to score in comparison to years prior and the added weapons on the team, I prefer for him to be a passer, which is something he might be able to do, even with the injuries..

[Chieflion]

4 tos if u want, 6 or 7 assists ?
7 assists. The assist to turnover ratio is pretty bad for a point guard, the same goes for the rest of the team however.

[itzsoweezee]

it's not only parker. hill is starting to turn into a turnover machine. i'm not sure exactly why. but i don't think he can play point guard. not a knock, but it's too late in his career to begin playing that position now.

[NickiRasgo]

Nice field goal percentage:

FG: 22-36 = 61%
3PT FG: 7-9= 78%

[Xevious]

Ric Renner is such a douche.

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/common/medialib/269/60839.jpg

[Spurs Brazil]

Rj 33333333333333333333333

[Chieflion]

RJ for 3!

[Spurs Brazil]

4th on TD and a T

[Chieflion]

Timmy got 4! And a tech!

[Libri]

Tim gets a technical. I want to see that replay.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

it's not only parker. hill is starting to turn into a turnover machine. i'm not sure exactly why. but i don't think he can play point guard. not a knock, but it's too late in his career to begin playing that position now.

I agree. I think George is a SG, sadly, although he has shown flashes of play that resembles what a PG does... give him time I guess.

[Danny.Zhu]

OMG. Tim got technical.

[Spurs Brazil]

RJ and one!

[Chieflion]

Richard Jefferson getting it done here!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Where was the foul there? :lol

[Xevious]

They're calling fouls on everything.

[Danny.Zhu]

RJ and 1!

[Chieflion]

Diaw touched RJ's butt, that is a foul, says the ref.

[timtonymanu]

RJ made the free throw!

[Chieflion]

Fuckin turnovers!

[Spurs Brazil]

Fucking TOs

SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[siraulo23]

WoW

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Pop looks PISSED. And rightly so... 15 fucking TOs.

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

eweww ugly

[Danny.Zhu]

TOs coming again.

[Brazil]

apparently these TOs story is a team issue !

[timtonymanu]

I'll say it again the Spurs need to practice dribbling/passing drills.

[timaios]

:bang:bang:bang:vomit:

[Libri]

turnovers

:bang

[angelbelow]

yikes..

[Johnny RIngo]

This team can be so fucking sloppy sometimes. We're not going to be shooting this well every game which means they have to figure out a way to keep the TOs down(15 in the middle of the 3rd...ugh).

[Brazil]

The players need to help eachothers regarding these tos when a guy is in difficulty the rest must look for helping him instead of letting him alone

[Spurs Brazil]

Manuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[Chieflion]

Manu splits the double team and scores!

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

thank god manu is back

[timaios]

Manu makes me smiles !!!!!!!!

[timtonymanu]

Manu MVP tonight!

[HarlemHeat37]

Bonner really needs to learn how to stop overplaying shooters..

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

fcuk the refs

[Chieflion]

Why does Bonner dribble the ball?
Yes. So he is going to just stand there while his defender pokes the ball away?

[Libri]

Just give it to Manu and get the hell out of way! hehe

[HarlemHeat37]

Duncan's 4th foul is killing us..

[Chieflion]

Double dribble on Manu. Wtf?

[siraulo23]

geez

[Brazil]

again

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

fcuk the TOs fuck the refs

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Yet another damned 3rd Q hole. :depressed

[Josepatches_]

Forget the fucking fouls.

Put TD in the game and finish it in the 3rd.

[Brazil]

Yet another damned 3rd Q hole. :depressed

its just 3 pts ruff

[timaios]

oh come on !!! :bang

[Chieflion]

Offensive foul. Who flopped? Turnover!

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

ejected no way...

[Spurs Brazil]

5 or 6 TOs already in the 3rd quarter

Unbelievable

[Brazil]

wtf ?

SA 6:31
Offensive Foul turnover on Theo Ratliff

SA 6:31
Offensive foul on Theo Ratliff

CHA 6:45
Offensive Goaltending turnover on Tyson Chandler

SA 7:16
Double dribble turnover on Manu Ginobili

[Chieflion]

Bonner with the floater!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Bonner's dribble drive game has improved vastly over the last two years.

[Xevious]

Nice pass

[HarlemHeat37]

wow, what a pass from TP..

[Spurs Brazil]

Theo dunk!

[Admidave50]

wassup with Blair tonight? He's barely having a few minutes...

[Chieflion]

Parker to Ratliff for the dunk!

[Brazil]

tp 8 assists

[Xevious]

Followed by a TO

[siraulo23]

wow, tp again~~

[Chieflion]

Parker turns the ball over on a travelling violation.

[Brazil]

damnit

[bigdog]

Hey I know Ian gets a ton of criticism about the way he moves around on the court, but the more I see Theo, they look a lot alike.

[Brazil]

strange game 60% fg a ton of TOs and fouls ! the whole team is going to be fouled out before the end

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

its just 3 pts ruff

...and TOs and inability to execute. Against a half decent offensive team the lead would be in single figures by now.

This team has the same trouble as last year's - they fall in 3rd quarter holes. Happened against Denver and Utah too. Gotta work that out if they want to go anywhere.

[Chieflion]

That makes 6 turnovers for Tony.

[Spurs Brazil]

Damn tp

[siraulo23]

all head, damn

[Xevious]

Theo thought Brown's head was the ball.

[Admidave50]

fuck it another TP's TO...

[HarlemHeat37]

what the fuck?!..Ratliff is getting ejected?!?!..

I really hope they're wrong, because that would be incredibly stupid..he was clearly going for the ball..

[Brazil]

^he is trying the double double TOs Assists

[Spurs Brazil]

That's 6TOs in the 3rd quarter

[Libri]

Ratliff is gone.

[45 bank shot]

Tp=turnover machine

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Ejected? Can you be ejected for careless play?

It was a hard foul, but he wasn't trying to kill him!

[slick'81]

damn theo damn near killed the rook

[raspsa]

Anyone know what the Spurs record for individual TO is ?

[Admidave50]

well, if he wants to become JKidd or Nash, at least it's reminding me to their famous double doubles (10+ assists and 10+ turnovers)...

[Chieflion]

what the fuck?!..Ratliff is getting ejected?!?!..

I really hope they're wrong, because that would be incredibly stupid..he was clearly going for the ball..
Well, yes. That was a flagrant two because he winded his arm back and hit him on the head as he was not going for the ball, according to the refs. Ok, make that flagrant 1, so not ejected.

[Behrooz24]

Lmao. sucks to be him

[slick'81]

theo showing the refs now thats a fckn foul

[angelbelow]

Damn Theo is gone.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Man, Theo can really get up for a 36yo.

[Libri]

flagrant 1

[slick'81]

flagrant 1 for theo no ejection

[itzsoweezee]

flagrant, but didn't deserve an ejection

[Spurs Brazil]

Theo is not gone

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Well, yes. That was a flagrant two because he winded his arm back and hit him on the head as he was not going for the ball.

What? He got the freakin ball! How could he not be going for it?

Flagrant one was the right call.

[HarlemHeat37]

Well, yes. That was a flagrant two because he winded his arm back and hit him on the head as he was not going for the ball.

He got a big part of the ball, and only the follow-through caught his head..I'd give him a flagrant, but an ejection isn't warranted..

[Chieflion]

Edited my previous post. I wasn't finished yet.

[Spurs Brazil]

7Tos

This is PATHETIC

Sit all those 5 Pop

[timaios]

What a mess !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bang:bang:bang

[HarlemHeat37]

Gerald Wallace with a huge flop..

Poor reffing + Horrible turnovers from the Spurs = a 20+ point lead cut down to 10..

[NickiRasgo]

Just saw this last Thursday here:


Popovich Would Quit If Refs Weren't Honest

If Gregg Popovich believed disgraced former referee Tim Donaghy's allegations about personal biases, he'd leave the game of basketball.

"A lot of people have worked very hard over the years to bring this sport to where it is right now," Popovich said. "For anybody to think that it is not on the up and up really is offensive. If I thought it wasn't on the up and up and I didn't have any control over outcomes, I wouldn't be doing it.

"It would be kind of a waste of time."

[slick'81]

fckn too many whistles

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

bull fcukin call bull shit

[Xevious]

This game is ridiculous. Fouls and TOs all over the place.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Fucking terrible game to watch. The refs have ruined it.

[slick'81]

22 point lead down to 10

[slick'81]

8

[HarlemHeat37]

this is incredible..we were up 24 or 22 at one point..nobody blows leads like this team, it's not even close..

Charlotte isn't a good offensive team too, which makes this even more comical..

a loss here would be a huge low point..

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

fcuked up 3rd quarter

[slick'81]

time out bobcats

[slick'81]

9-0 run bobcats 71-63 spurs

[Libri]

Bobcats inching there way back.

:bang

[45 bank shot]

wowow just wowoww
no lead is safe for us

[Spurs Brazil]

Can you believe.

We were up 22 in this quarter and now it's only 8. That's terrible

TP played so great last game but tonight he killed our big lead

[magui86770]

These turnovers are just freaking ridiculous! 20 turnovers in 3 quarters!!!

[Chieflion]

Larry Brown is probably telling these guys to full court press us now.

[timtonymanu]

I dont even know what to say!

[DesignatedT]

Yes, Bonner just have up that offensive rebound. yep, nobody notices

[slick'81]

i dont know what happend to #9 but hes been damn near awful tonight

[slick'81]

spurs are turning into he cowboys with all these mistakes

[raspsa]

Spurs 20TOs and counting.. going for the record.

[slick'81]

6

[slick'81]

21 for jax

[#2!]

anybody know of a reason blair hasn't gotten any PT?

[slick'81]

4

[Walton Buys Off Me]

When your starting point guard has three times as many turnovers than points; you're in trouble.

[Chieflion]

The Larry Brown effect. His Pistons made us turn the ball over like shit in the finals too.

[Spurs Brazil]

21TOs

[Libri]

Bonner gets owned.

[Duncan2177]

Damn Brown issued nuts on Bonner.

[slick'81]

bonner got shit all the fck over

[Admidave50]

u gotta be fucking kidding me! 4pt game, RJ at the line

[HarlemHeat37]

Charlotte is the 27th ranked offense in the NBA..they have came back from 22 points down to cut it to 4, which is just incredibly horrible..it's pretty much been all off our turnovers..I'm just in shock right now..

[DesignatedT]

hahahhahahahahahahahaha bonner defense. fucking joke

[Spurs Brazil]

This is one of the most pathetic quarter I've seen since I'm a Spurs fan

[Ice009]

Turnovers and fouls are gonna hurt the Spurs, but as long as they can stay consistent, they'll win this game.

Nice quote and it looks like you were right.

[timtonymanu]

Is it bad that I like last year's team better?

[slick'81]

7 to's this quarter alone

[DesignatedT]

thankyou, get bonner out

[slick'81]

spurs up 3

[murpjf88]

what's everyone's problem, its only DECEMBER!!!

[Spurs Brazil]

RJ is so lazy to pass the ball

[Chieflion]

This team blows.

[timtonymanu]

Another fcukin turnover!!!!!!

[slick'81]

chandler with a cheap shot on dyess

[slick'81]

this game is getting real physical

[slick'81]

spurs ball!!!

[Admidave50]

we still can't hit our fts damnit!

[siraulo23]

This is Unbelievable

[Libri]

Now they have to grind it out.

[Chieflion]

We seriously need a guy who can protect the ball as a ball handler for the 2nd unit.

[#2!]

The Larry Brown effect. His Pistons made us turn the ball over like shit in the finals too.

denial much?

[murpjf88]

This team blows.

how could you be so critical. shame on you.

[Ice009]

See the way Tim is always grabbing Sjax?

How could Tim have not asked the Spurs FO to bring him in?

[siraulo23]

did mcdyess miss both fts?

[slick'81]

everything that could go wrong this quarter did spurs up 1

[Xevious]

Crowd's getting pissed

[HarlemHeat37]

LOL @ 1-point lead after being up 22..at home too..

this is Charlotte, the 27th ranked offense in the NBA..

[DesignatedT]

this is fucking pathetic

[slick'81]

turnover #23

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

This quarter is like a manual on how NOT to play basketball.

Crash Wallace's post game has been great this Q.

[Chieflion]

Another turnover. This team is a real disgrace.

[Spurs Brazil]

p a t h e t i c

[SCdac]

We should try putting Blair, and his wide frame, on Gerald Wallace. Worth a try imo.

[slick'81]

72-71 spurs going into the 4th quarter

[Admidave50]

They're competing for TO's or what? TP has 6, RJ has 4 and Manu has 3

[Libri]

Stop the bleeding please!

[siraulo23]

:bang:bang:bang:bang

1 point game

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

disgusting

[Russ]

We should try putting Blair, and his wide frame, on Gerald Wallace. Worth a try imo.

:toast

[45 bank shot]

.....

[magui86770]

Even if we win this game, still a pathetic showing. We are a high turnover(unforced mostly) and barely average defensive team right now.

[Chieflion]

23 turnovers, really. Are we going for 30? 22 assists, 23 turnovers....

[pawe]

What the hell is happening with this team. TOs left and right.

[DesignatedT]

wow there is nothing to say anymore. its just pathetic. after it looks like we might be getting somewhere with this certain rotation, this shit happens. fucking p-a-t-h-e-t-i-c

[siraulo23]

29-13 in the third

[45 bank shot]

c'mon letz play a good 4th q pls

[raspsa]

TD's 4th foul was the turning point..

[Ice009]

What a colossal meltdown in that 3rd quarter.

This team is horrible. TP needs to be shown the stat sheet of all out losses. The turnover column needs to be highlighted and Pop tell him each turn over you make I will hit you across the hands with a giant 1 meter ruler.

[Ice009]

What a colossal meltdown in that 3rd quarter.

This team is horrible. TP needs to be shown the stat sheet of all out losses. The turnover column needs to be highlighted and Pop tell him each turn over you make I will hit you across the hands with a giant 1 meter ruler.

[Spurs Brazil]

I don't know why but 3rd quarter has been killing us all season

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't know what we need in the 4th..I'd say cut down the turnovers, but clearly this team doesn't know how to do that..

Charlotte has an incredible amount of momentum right now, they just cut a 22-point lead down to 1..

[Creation88]

pathetic 3rd quarter. this team is the same ol same ol.