Lost - The Final Season

[AFBlue]

With the exception of the Locke episode, my opinion on this season isn't very high...

First, I can best describe the newly unveiled places on the island as "hokey". From the actual temple and its inhabitants (more on them later) to the random cave with the scale & rocks, it just seems the mystery was unveiled to be a bit cheesy. The only cool new place IMO was the lighthouse with the reflective glass that shows how Jacob watched the Losties.

Next, the new people and their lack of development. With the exception of the couple buried alive in season 2, there hasn't been a more disappointing introduction and conclusion to characters as this season with the temple inhabitants. The japanese guy is assigned the job of temple protector along with his "second in command"...some nerdy looking white dude. One would think that such important characters carry a lofty weight in the outcome of the island and should be developed as such. But the most they get is an appearance in a "flash sideways" and a one-line backstory about a drunk driving accident. I understand there are only 10 episodes left, but c'mon...where's the dedication to development that's been there in the past?

Finally, the direction...or lack thereof. I understand that there are 10 episodes left before the finale, but this season has seemingly lacked some flow or continuity to the previous seasons. I think it's due in part to the distraction that is the "flash sideways". Don't get me wrong, I actually like that part, but the loose correlation to the Losties on the island (not sure how it ties) causes it to detract from the on-island storyline, IMO. The bottom line is there are many questions that need to be answered, very little time to do so, and the first few episodes haven't really wowed me with promise that they will be.

Having said all that, I am a loyal Lost follower (only show I DVR but still watch live) and trust that the creators will come full circle by the end...and answer all the big questions. I think it's been a slow start, but there's certainly time to rebound.

Hopefully that rebound starts with the Ben episode tomorrow night!

[Blake]

You were ignoring a lot of stuff then.

The only thing I saw as different in this past episode is that he seemed to enjoy killing Dogen and Lennon. They hadn't showed that side of Sayid before.

He seemed to enjoy it, but he also seems possessed.

Dead is dead, right?

[Blake]

Are they really gonna kill him off? :elephant

If they kill him off this soon before the finale, that would suck beyond all suckage.

[Spurminator]

I think the flash-sideways is actually the future of the Losties on the island right now... I believe that Locke's clan (Sayid, Kate, and eventually Sawyer... maybe even a resurrected Locke) will somehow arrive back in the FS timeline with a full memory of what occurred on the island. The other clan (Jack in particular, not sure yet about Hurley/Jin/Sun/Miles) will arrive back in 2004 without remembering anything from the island.

Not sure how all of this goes down, but Sayid's quote last week ("I don't deserve you after what I've done") made me think the current island story is more related to the flash-sidewayses than we are supposed to believe at this point.

[Death In June]

With the exception of the Locke episode, my opinion on this season isn't very high...

First, I can best describe the newly unveiled places on the island as "hokey". From the actual temple and its inhabitants (more on them later) to the random cave with the scale & rocks, it just seems the mystery was unveiled to be a bit cheesy. The only cool new place IMO was the lighthouse with the reflective glass that shows how Jacob watched the Losties.

Next, the new people and their lack of development. With the exception of the couple buried alive in season 2, there hasn't been a more disappointing introduction and conclusion to characters as this season with the temple inhabitants. The japanese guy is assigned the job of temple protector along with his "second in command"...some nerdy looking white dude. One would think that such important characters carry a lofty weight in the outcome of the island and should be developed as such. But the most they get is an appearance in a "flash sideways" and a one-line backstory about a drunk driving accident. I understand there are only 10 episodes left, but c'mon...where's the dedication to development that's been there in the past?

Finally, the direction...or lack thereof. I understand that there are 10 episodes left before the finale, but this season has seemingly lacked some flow or continuity to the previous seasons. I think it's due in part to the distraction that is the "flash sideways". Don't get me wrong, I actually like that part, but the loose correlation to the Losties on the island (not sure how it ties) causes it to detract from the on-island storyline, IMO. The bottom line is there are many questions that need to be answered, very little time to do so, and the first few episodes haven't really wowed me with promise that they will be.

Having said all that, I am a loyal Lost follower (only show I DVR but still watch live) and trust that the creators will come full circle by the end...and answer all the big questions. I think it's been a slow start, but there's certainly time to rebound.

Hopefully that rebound starts with the Ben episode tomorrow night!I agree with pretty much everything, except I really dislike the flash sideways stuff. It's just not entertaining television. As for the new island locations being cheesy, Lost has always been extremely full of cheese - since the very first episode. That was part of the charm for me. It was very much like Twin Peaks in that it was silly, cliche, and stupid but still inherently awesome. The Jack and Sayid episodes were steps in the right direction. Stuff actually happened this last episode.

[Blake]

With the exception of the Locke episode, my opinion on this season isn't very high...

First, I can best describe the newly unveiled places on the island as "hokey". From the actual temple and its inhabitants (more on them later) to the random cave with the scale & rocks, it just seems the mystery was unveiled to be a bit cheesy. The only cool new place IMO was the lighthouse with the reflective glass that shows how Jacob watched the Losties.

Next, the new people and their lack of development. With the exception of the couple buried alive in season 2, there hasn't been a more disappointing introduction and conclusion to characters as this season with the temple inhabitants. The japanese guy is assigned the job of temple protector along with his "second in command"...some nerdy looking white dude. One would think that such important characters carry a lofty weight in the outcome of the island and should be developed as such. But the most they get is an appearance in a "flash sideways" and a one-line backstory about a drunk driving accident. I understand there are only 10 episodes left, but c'mon...where's the dedication to development that's been there in the past?

Finally, the direction...or lack thereof. I understand that there are 10 episodes left before the finale, but this season has seemingly lacked some flow or continuity to the previous seasons. I think it's due in part to the distraction that is the "flash sideways". Don't get me wrong, I actually like that part, but the loose correlation to the Losties on the island (not sure how it ties) causes it to detract from the on-island storyline, IMO. The bottom line is there are many questions that need to be answered, very little time to do so, and the first few episodes haven't really wowed me with promise that they will be.

Having said all that, I am a loyal Lost follower (only show I DVR but still watch live) and trust that the creators will come full circle by the end...and answer all the big questions. I think it's been a slow start, but there's certainly time to rebound.

Hopefully that rebound starts with the Ben episode tomorrow night!


yeah, I pretty much agree on everything. I also don't really understand why they are going this route.

Among other things, they spent so much time and energy developing Ben and Widmore and in this final season, they are dismissing them rather abruptly.

It's not that what we are watching isn't entertaining......to me what I'm watching is not really "Lost" as I've known it.

[AFBlue]

I think the flash-sideways is actually the future of the Losties on the island right now... I believe that Locke's clan (Sayid, Kate, and eventually Sawyer... maybe even a resurrected Locke) will somehow arrive back in the FS timeline with a full memory of what occurred on the island. The other clan (Jack in particular, not sure yet about Hurley/Jin/Sun/Miles) will arrive back in 2004 without remembering anything from the island.

Not sure how all of this goes down, but Sayid's quote last week ("I don't deserve you after what I've done") made me think the current island story is more related to the flash-sidewayses than we are supposed to believe at this point.

My brother actually has the same theory, that the "flash sideways" are actually "flash forwards". In other words, we're not watching two alternate realities but instead that the conclusion of the island storyline (with destruction of the island) will result in the "flash sideways" storyline.

This makes some sense, if the creators wanted to give a glimpse into how each of the Losties lives turns out but not dedicate an entire season to doing so (could they keep it intriguing enough?).

The quote that leads me to believe this is plausible is the one by Miles...when he told Sawyer that a buried Juliet told him "it worked".

I may just start watching the storylines in this way to see if it fits.

[JudynTX]

I'm just appreciating the show for what it is. :)

[Buddy Holly]

With the exception of the Locke episode, my opinion on this season isn't very high...

First, I can best describe the newly unveiled places on the island as "hokey". From the actual temple and its inhabitants (more on them later) to the random cave with the scale & rocks, it just seems the mystery was unveiled to be a bit cheesy. The only cool new place IMO was the lighthouse with the reflective glass that shows how Jacob watched the Losties.

Next, the new people and their lack of development. With the exception of the couple buried alive in season 2, there hasn't been a more disappointing introduction and conclusion to characters as this season with the temple inhabitants. The japanese guy is assigned the job of temple protector along with his "second in command"...some nerdy looking white dude. One would think that such important characters carry a lofty weight in the outcome of the island and should be developed as such. But the most they get is an appearance in a "flash sideways" and a one-line backstory about a drunk driving accident. I understand there are only 10 episodes left, but c'mon...where's the dedication to development that's been there in the past?

Finally, the direction...or lack thereof. I understand that there are 10 episodes left before the finale, but this season has seemingly lacked some flow or continuity to the previous seasons. I think it's due in part to the distraction that is the "flash sideways". Don't get me wrong, I actually like that part, but the loose correlation to the Losties on the island (not sure how it ties) causes it to detract from the on-island storyline, IMO. The bottom line is there are many questions that need to be answered, very little time to do so, and the first few episodes haven't really wowed me with promise that they will be.

Having said all that, I am a loyal Lost follower (only show I DVR but still watch live) and trust that the creators will come full circle by the end...and answer all the big questions. I think it's been a slow start, but there's certainly time to rebound.

Hopefully that rebound starts with the Ben episode tomorrow night!

I couldn't have said it better. Almost as if I wrote that. Also, I watch it live but DVR it too. :lol

[bigzak25]

i'm waiting for the last episode to watch again. i saw the first one.

this way its like a movie with a long ass intermission.

[Stringer_Bell]

Among other things, they spent so much time and energy developing Ben and Widmore and in this final season, they are dismissing them rather abruptly.

Remember when Ben confronted Widmore in his bedroom and told him he'd take away what was most precious to him? Was there ever a resolution to him going after Penny, as in they showed what happened at the docks when he looked beat up and made that phone call?

I still don't understand why someone as important as Ben would get caught in that trap when we first met him. It doesn't make sense that the Others, who are so careful and dominating in everything they do, would just let him get caught even as part of some master plan.

LOST definitely has holes, but as long as it doesn't obviously affect Jack's story I'm cool with it.

[Blake]

I still don't understand why someone as important as Ben would get caught in that trap when we first met him. It doesn't make sense that the Others, who are so careful and dominating in everything they do, would just let him get caught even as part of some master plan.

LOST definitely has holes, but as long as it doesn't obviously affect Jack's story I'm cool with it.

it's been a while, but I thought he allowed himself to get caught in the trap so that he could get information about the losties.

I think he knew it wasn't his time to die yet....much like when Tom told Michael the island still needed him and wouldn't let him die

[AFBlue]

Remember when Ben confronted Widmore in his bedroom and told him he'd take away what was most precious to him? Was there ever a resolution to him going after Penny, as in they showed what happened at the docks when he looked beat up and made that phone call?

I still don't understand why someone as important as Ben would get caught in that trap when we first met him. It doesn't make sense that the Others, who are so careful and dominating in everything they do, would just let him get caught even as part of some master plan.

LOST definitely has holes, but as long as it doesn't obviously affect Jack's story I'm cool with it.

He shot Desmond and was about to shoot Penny when their son walked out onto the deck of the boat. Ben paused long enough (probably thinking about his own daughter) for Desmond to tackle him and proceed to beat the everliving crap out of him before tossing him in the water.

After that, Ben had to focus on getting back to the island so he never got another chance for revenge.

[Stringer_Bell]

He shot Desmond and was about to shoot Penny when their son walked out onto the deck of the boat. Ben paused long enough (probably thinking about his own daughter) for Desmond to tackle him and proceed to beat the everliving crap out of him before tossing him in the water.

After that, Ben had to focus on getting back to the island so he never got another chance for revenge.

Ouch, that's pretty anti-climatic since I assumed the war between Ben and Widmore would encompass more than Ben getting his ass kicked on a boat. Thanks! :toast

[exstatic]

I think the flash-sideways is actually the future of the Losties on the island right now... I believe that Locke's clan (Sayid, Kate, and eventually Sawyer... maybe even a resurrected Locke) will somehow arrive back in the FS timeline with a full memory of what occurred on the island. The other clan (Jack in particular, not sure yet about Hurley/Jin/Sun/Miles) will arrive back in 2004 without remembering anything from the island.

Not sure how all of this goes down, but Sayid's quote last week ("I don't deserve you after what I've done") made me think the current island story is more related to the flash-sidewayses than we are supposed to believe at this point.
Everything they've shown in the FS timeline indicates NO memories of any kiind by the non-castaways.
BTW, Sayid did LOADS of bad shit LONG before he crashed on the island. That statement could have applied to almost anything.

My brother actually has the same theory, that the "flash sideways" are actually "flash forwards". In other words, we're not watching two alternate realities but instead that the conclusion of the island storyline (with destruction of the island) will result in the "flash sideways" storyline.

This makes some sense, if the creators wanted to give a glimpse into how each of the Losties lives turns out but not dedicate an entire season to doing so (could they keep it intriguing enough?).

The quote that leads me to believe this is plausible is the one by Miles...when he told Sawyer that a buried Juliet told him "it worked".

I may just start watching the storylines in this way to see if it fits.

I'm not buying it. The ONLY way they could do it is if they memory wiped everyone, which would be hokey, even for Lost. No one seems to know anyone else, or remember anything.

As for Juliet's statement to Miles "from beyond", wouldn't she be privy to information as a dead person that we wouldn't have?

[Spurminator]

Everything they've shown in the FS timeline indicates NO memories of any kiind by the non-castaways.
BTW, Sayid did LOADS of bad shit LONG before he crashed on the island. That statement could have applied to almost anything.

I know you're supposed to believe he's talking about what he did for the Republican Guard, but my theory is that he's talking about wht happened on the island.

And while I'd have to rewatch the episodes in order to be a little more confident about it, there's nothing from Kate or Locke's episodes that I can remember that indicated they had no memory of the island. Maybe that's why Kate was so eager to help Claire even though she was on the run from the law?

I think there just has to be more to it than a 16 episode epilogue.

[AFBlue]

I know you're supposed to believe he's talking about what he did for the Republican Guard, but my theory is that he's talking about wht happened on the island.

And while I'd have to rewatch the episodes in order to be a little more confident about it, there's nothing from Kate or Locke's episodes that I can remember that indicated they had no memory of the island. Maybe that's why Kate was so eager to help Claire even though she was on the run from the law?

I think there just has to be more to it than a 16 episode epilogue.

What about Jack and the appendicitis scar? I think it's a little more complicated than either of us are making it.

[Spurminator]

What about Jack and the appendicitis scar? I think it's a little more complicated than either of us are making it.

I'm sure it is. It's just a starter theory... some details aren't certain yet. Like I said before, I don't think Jack remembers the island. For whatever reason. It would probably have something to do with how/if certain ones among them get off the island.

[exstatic]

I'm sure it is. It's just a starter theory... some details aren't certain yet. Like I said before, I don't think Jack remembers the island. For whatever reason. It would probably have something to do with how/if certain ones among them get off the island.

They'd have to time travel again. The FS timeline is 2004 and current island time is 2007.

My theory is that the FS is just showing that no matter what, you are who you are. Jack isn't a serial killer. Kate isn't a housewife. Sayid isn't a gay fashion designer. There are some small differences, but everyone has close to the same life they had in the "real" timeline, right down to Kate being a fugitive for murder, and Claire getting preggers at the same exact time. Jack married and divorced, but we don't know he didn't do that before, do we? He has a kid, but he seems to be substantially the same person. They all do.

I also think that few, if any, of the principles will survive. Finding out that the creators are fans of The Stand means there will be blood. Of the permanent committee of seven in the book, I think two survived.

[JudynTX]

Is it 8 o'clock yet?

[Blake]

Is it 8 o'clock yet?

in the sideways timeline it is

[JudynTX]

in the sideways timeline it is

:lol :lol Blake, if you were on this show, would you be scared of Smokey?

[SpursStalker]

Can I come play in this thread?

:depressed

[JudynTX]

Can I come play in this thread?

:depressed

Only if you post pictures of Sawyer, one of the characters.

Google him. :hat

[SpursStalker]

Only if you post pictures of Sawyer, one of the characters.

Google him. :hat

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/SpursStalker/Lost_josh_holloway_sawyer_1.jpg

Him?

:D

[JudynTX]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/SpursStalker/Lost_josh_holloway_sawyer_1.jpg

Him?

:D

I just spit out my tea. :drool:

It's getting hot in here...................

[Spurminator]

They'd have to time travel again. The FS timeline is 2004 and current island time is 2007.


Sure, but time travel isn't exactly difficult to write into the script anymore. The benefit of returning to 2004 is that it was before these characters encountered the island. So if they wanted to go back to the way things were then it makes sense they would want to go back to 2004 (or before).



My theory is that the FS is just showing that no matter what, you are who you are. Jack isn't a serial killer. Kate isn't a housewife. Sayid isn't a gay fashion designer. There are some small differences, but everyone has close to the same life they had in the "real" timeline, right down to Kate being a fugitive for murder, and Claire getting preggers at the same exact time. Jack married and divorced, but we don't know he didn't do that before, do we? He has a kid, but he seems to be substantially the same person. They all do.

That would be a fine ending, but I just don't think it's the Lost way. You know there will be a big reveal/twist in the final episode and it just seems inevitable that we're going to find out the two timelines are chronologically linked.

We'll see. That's what makes this fun.


I also think that few, if any, of the principles will survive. Finding out that the creators are fans of The Stand means there will be blood. Of the permanent committee of seven in the book, I think two survived.

Definitely agree only a few will be left standing at the end. Maybe the reason FS Jack doesn't remember the island is that he died.

[Blake]

:lol :lol Blake, if you were on this show, would you be scared of Smokey?

not any more.

I see no reason to join Jacob's clan as they keep getting whacked.

I'd join the Flocke clan.

[JudynTX]

not any more.

I see no reason to join Jacob's clan as they keep getting whacked.

I'd join the Flocke clan.

What job would you want @ Dharma? :lol

[Blake]

What job would you want @ Dharma? :lol

@ Dharma?

Leader. What else?

[Stringer_Bell]

What job would you want @ Dharma? :lol

The dude that delivers beer to the Dharma stations. I am a careful driver and I ain't scared of no smoke monster neither. :downspin:

[exstatic]

Sure, but time travel isn't exactly difficult to write into the script anymore. The benefit of returning to 2004 is that it was before these characters encountered the island. So if they wanted to go back to the way things were then it makes sense they would want to go back to 2004 (or before).



That would be a fine ending, but I just don't think it's the Lost way. You know there will be a big reveal/twist in the final episode and it just seems inevitable that we're going to find out the two timelines are chronologically linked.

We'll see. That's what makes this fun.



Definitely agree only a few will be left standing at the end. Maybe the reason FS Jack doesn't remember the island is that he died.

You know that the original script had Jack dying in the premier, don't you? They liked the actor, so the script got a new treatment. Same with Ben. He was originally written for three episodes.

So far, everyone who's died in this endgame season (not counting Juliet) has been the equivalent of a Star Trek red jersey. I'm waiting for the first big cast member to bite it.

I think Miles will be important. Someone will die, but obtain knowledge of how to defeat Smocke/FLocke. He'll be able to "talk to them" and find out.

[mFFL03]

that episode was terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible

[Texas Chili Dog]

http://kimag.es/share/563679.jpg

[jaffies]

Loved it.

Michael Emerson is absolutely amazing

[Amarelooms]

that episode was terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible

FAIL :elephant

[exstatic]

Shit. I thought Miles was going to be good. Digging up graves for diamonds in them doesn't exactly put you in that camp. Looks like I was wrong about both him and (shocker) Ben.

[AFBlue]

With the exception of the submarine cutaway shot from the sea (hokey), I thought this episode was classic LOST.

There was a clearly defined connection between the flash sideways and the island story, because both revealed the core of who Ben really is. Old Jack is definitively back...loved the dynamite scene. And there were even a couple of surprises thrown in...Alex as a student and Ben's dad alluding to the Dharma initiative and even "the island" being a part of their past.

Nothing like a superbly acted "Ben episode" to get this season headed in the right direction.

:tu

[AFBlue]

That's why I'm saying Widmore is coming back to the island.


Good call Judy! :toast

[exstatic]

With the exception of the submarine cutaway shot from the sea (hokey), I thought this episode was classic LOST.

There was a clearly defined connection between the flash sideways and the island story, because both revealed the core of who Ben really is. Old Jack is definitively back...loved the dynamite scene. And there were even a couple of surprises thrown in...Alex as a student and Ben's dad alluding to the Dharma initiative and even "the island" being a part of their past.

Nothing like a superbly acted "Ben episode" to get this season headed in the right direction.

:tu
He's both "Old Jack", and not. Old Jack would never have lit that fuse. Old Jack would never have believed that they had a purpose there without knowing exactly what it was, and what they were supposed to do. Old Jack was a man of science, and Real Locke was a man of faith, which is why they constantly clashed. New Jack is becoming a man of faith. Jack has his mojo back, but it's a different mojo.

[Spurminator]

Meh. So-so episode.

I find it almost too convenient that Ben teaches at the same school that Alex Rousseau goes to in the FS timeline. I hope it's more than just a cute coincidence.

[JudynTX]

that episode was terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible

What? Watch it again and then come back and let us know if it's terrible.


Loved it.

Michael Emerson is absolutely amazing

That dude deserves an Emmy!!!! I have a different opinion of Ben now, kinda feel sorry for him.


With the exception of the submarine cutaway shot from the sea (hokey), I thought this episode was classic LOST.

There was a clearly defined connection between the flash sideways and the island story, because both revealed the core of who Ben really is. Old Jack is definitively back...loved the dynamite scene. And there were even a couple of surprises thrown in...Alex as a student and Ben's dad alluding to the Dharma initiative and even "the island" being a part of their past.

Nothing like a superbly acted "Ben episode" to get this season headed in the right direction.

:tu


Good call Judy! :toast

:toast Thanks. Jack is the new Jacob and Ben is the new Richard? :D

I thought the episode was very good. The scene between Richard and Jack was intense. :wow

I did find it odd that Ben's daughter Alex was one of his students.
<<<scratches her head with that one. :lol

[EmptyMan]

Damnit.

I bet this means no Richard flashback.


I knew Whitmore was the one coming back.

[JudynTX]

Damnit.

I bet this means no Richard flashback.

I knew Whitmore was the one coming back.

Yes, there will be a Richard-centric episode coming. :toast

[Stringer_Bell]

There were some good scenes on the latest episode, but editors just use the same "Wide-eyed scary looking Ben" mixed with "high tension strings" to end all his scenes. It's annoying as hell and takes away from when Emerson nails his character's humanity.

Richard's deathwish reminded me of Michael trying to kill himself off the island...does that mean Michael was touched too since he couldn't die either?

[sonic21]

Yes, there will be a Richard-centric episode coming. :toast

:hungry:

[AFBlue]

Yes, there will be a Richard-centric episode coming. :toast

At the very least he has to explain where he was after he ran off into the jungle.

[AFBlue]

Richard's deathwish reminded me of Michael trying to kill himself off the island...does that mean Michael was touched too since he couldn't die either?

Michael couldn't die because he hadn't fulfilled his destiny. In that way he's more like Jack than Richard.

[Blake]

Michael couldn't die because he hadn't fulfilled his destiny. In that way he's more like Jack than Richard.

the island will allow you to get beat to bloody hell........but if it needs you, it won't let you die.

[AFBlue]

the island will allow you to get beat to bloody hell........but if it needs you, it won't let you die.

:tu

[AFBlue]

He's both "Old Jack", and not. Old Jack would never have lit that fuse. Old Jack would never have believed that they had a purpose there without knowing exactly what it was, and what they were supposed to do. Old Jack was a man of science, and Real Locke was a man of faith, which is why they constantly clashed. New Jack is becoming a man of faith. Jack has his mojo back, but it's a different mojo.

Right...I just meant the confident, purpose-driven Jack is back. Agree with everything you said.

[Blake]

I miss real Locke being the real man of faith.

new smokey Locke sucks.

[Blake]

ok, just saw the last episode last night.

pretty good, although any episode with Ben is usually pretty good.

I just wonder why Ben didn't make the principal go ahead and write the letter of recommendation too as well as resign.

Anyone else get the feeling like they are trying to make Jacob out to be a Jesus figure?

The only difference being that I don't see them bringing Jacob back to life.....but then again, it wouldn't surprise me none if they did.

[Kermit]

ok, just saw the last episode last night.

pretty good, although any episode with Ben is usually pretty good.

I just wonder why Ben didn't make the principal go ahead and write the letter of recommendation too as well as resign.

Anyone else get the feeling like they are trying to make Jacob out to be a Jesus figure?

The only difference being that I don't see them bringing Jacob back to life.....but then again, it wouldn't surprise me none if they did.

Doc Jenson has a theory that Jacob's going to inhabit dead Locke's body. If that shit happens, I'm done.

[Blake]

Doc Jenson has a theory that Jacob's going to inhabit dead Locke's body. If that shit happens, I'm done.

hmm. Jacob seems to need Jack......maybe he takes over Jack's body.....who knows.....

sidebar....who does Jack's dead dad work for.......Jacob or Flocke?

[exstatic]

hmm. Jacob seems to need Jack......maybe he takes over Jack's body.....who knows.....

sidebar....who does Jack's dead dad work for.......Jacob or Flocke?

FLocke. Claire said in the three year intermediate period after the Oceanic Siz left she associated with her Dad (and Jack's) and her friend, who turned out to be FLocke. I can't imagine an associate of Jacob's hang with FLocke and one of his flunkies.

[Blake]

FLocke. Claire said in the three year intermediate period after the Oceanic Siz left she associated with her Dad (and Jack's) and her friend, who turned out to be FLocke. I can't imagine an associate of Jacob's hang with FLocke and one of his flunkies.

yeah....I guess it would have to be Flocke because of the sequence of events, especially when Jacks dad told Locke that he needed to die....

maybe Jack is there to save dad and claire from flocke. I dunno.

[AFBlue]

Anyone else get the feeling like they are trying to make Jacob out to be a Jesus figure?

The only difference being that I don't see them bringing Jacob back to life.....but then again, it wouldn't surprise me none if they did.

The religious overtones in this season are so apparent it's rediculous. It started at the beginning of last season with Jacob in white and "Man in Black" obviously in black.

This season whether it's been Flocke chunking a white rock from a balance scale or Sayid being carried out of the water with his arms outstretched to the side...yeah it's been pretty in-your-face.

I would actually be shocked if Jacob didn't somehow take over someone's body and come back to life.

[AFBlue]

Doc Jenson has a theory that Jacob's going to inhabit dead Locke's body. If that shit happens, I'm done.

You mean that Locke is going to have some kind of Me, Myself and Irene craziness going on?

Yeah, don't like that one bit.

[Jacob1983]

Michael Emerson should get nominated for the last season of Lost especially for this past episode. I think the flash sideways in the episode was in a weird way redemption for Ben. He did the right thing by not going through with black mailing the principal. I still want real Locke back.

[Xevious]

So Richard's long life is a result of being "touched" by Jacob. And he was most likely a prisoner/slave on the Black Rock based on his dialogue in this episode, and Flocke's comment about not recognizing him out of his chains, or something like that.

Yeah, we need a Richard episode. :downspin:

[exstatic]

Michael Emerson should get nominated for the last season of Lost especially for this past episode. I think the flash sideways in the episode was in a weird way redemption for Ben. He did the right thing by not going through with black mailing the principal. I still want real Locke back.

Locke is dead and buried. Say a prayer for him and move on. As Ben said "dead is dead". Smokie can apparently raise these avatars of the unburied dead like Locke or Christian, but they're not the person, just a cheap darker copy.

[Kermit]

Locke is dead and buried. Say a prayer for him and move on. As Ben said "dead is dead". Smokie can apparently raise these avatars of the unburied dead like Locke or Christian, but they're not the person, just a cheap darker copy.

So wouldn't Jacob be able to raise them as well? There is a resurrection theory out there.

[sonic21]

didn't Jacob already resurrect Locke when he had his accident?

[Kermit]

didn't Jacob already resurrect Locke when he had his accident?

Maybe. I just hope exstatic's right. As much as I like the guy, Terry O'Quinn's got his fucking plate full. There is no need for him to play essentially three characters.

[sonic21]

I agree. I didn't like Locke. He was always wrong and got manipulated easily by others. He was weak.

O'quinn is a good actor though.

[AFBlue]

So Richard's long life is a result of being "touched" by Jacob. And he was most likely a prisoner/slave on the Black Rock based on his dialogue in this episode, and Flocke's comment about not recognizing him out of his chains, or something like that.

Yeah, we need a Richard episode. :downspin:

I didn't catch that last part, but it definitely makes sense. Agree on a Richard episode.

[Spurminator]

Maybe. I just hope exstatic's right. As much as I like the guy, Terry O'Quinn's got his fucking plate full. There is no need for him to play essentially three characters.

Another theory... Jacob inhabits Locke's body and returns to the real world, having found an appropriate replacement on the island (or not, if the island is destroyed). So Locke's FS episode was actually Jacob inhabiting Locke. It was very Jacob-like the way he told Jack his father was not lost, and how he told Ben he should try to become Principal.

[Blake]

Locke is dead and buried. Say a prayer for him and move on. As Ben said "dead is dead". Smokie can apparently raise these avatars of the unburied dead like Locke or Christian, but they're not the person, just a cheap darker copy.

why would smokey choose Locke to be the body to be "stuck" in.

[Blake]

Another theory... Jacob inhabits Locke's body and returns to the real world, having found an appropriate replacement on the island (or not, if the island is destroyed). So Locke's FS episode was actually Jacob inhabiting Locke. It was very Jacob-like the way he told Jack his father was not lost, and how he told Ben he should try to become Principal.

eh...doubtful. Locke didn't die for Jacob to inhabit his body and there was really nothing in the Locke centric episode [where he got fired] to suggest that Jacob was controlling him.

[Spurminator]

Another theory... Jacob inhabits Locke's body and returns to the real world, having found an appropriate replacement on the island (or not, if the island is destroyed). So Locke's FS episode was actually Jacob inhabiting Locke. It was very Jacob-like the way he told Jack his father was not lost, and how he told Ben he should try to become Principal.

Or it's just FLocke after he escapes the island. Thinking about it more, that seems more likely.

[Blake]

didn't Jacob already resurrect Locke when he had his accident?

so Jacob resurrected Locke........the island gave him his legs back and saved him when Ben shot him......and smokey has taken him over......

everybody wants them some Locke.

[exstatic]

Locke was only dead one time: when Ben took an electrical cord to his throat. The healing properties of the island are a known quantity, even semi-miraculous, but like Ben said when talking about this very subject: dead is dead. You don't come back. Smoky has proved he can raise a look-a-like avatar of an unburied body, BUT THAT IS NOT THAT PERSON. Locke wasn't raised by Smokie, he was copied. His corpse remains quite dead. IIRC, he was even starting to get ripe when they buried him.

[Blake]

Locke was only dead one time: when Ben took an electrical cord to his throat. The healing properties of the island are a known quantity, even semi-miraculous, but like Ben said when talking about this very subject: dead is dead. You don't come back. Smoky has proved he can raise a look-a-like avatar of an unburied body, BUT THAT IS NOT THAT PERSON. Locke wasn't raised by Smokie, he was copied. His corpse remains quite dead. IIRC, he was even starting to get ripe when they buried him.

he didnt just raise Locke's avatar up, he is now inside the avatar.

my question is why did he pick Locke's to inhabit.......

[exstatic]

he didnt just raise Locke's avatar up, he is now inside the avatar.

my question is why did he pick Locke's to inhabit.......

Unburied dead bodies. I think Jacob's "bodyguards" even mentioned it, or was it Richard?

Fake Locke from a corpse on Ajira 316.

Fake Christian from a corpse on Oceanic 815.

[Kermit]

Locke was only dead one time: when Ben took an electrical cord to his throat. The healing properties of the island are a known quantity, even semi-miraculous, but like Ben said when talking about this very subject: dead is dead. You don't come back. Smoky has proved he can raise a look-a-like avatar of an unburied body, BUT THAT IS NOT THAT PERSON. Locke wasn't raised by Smokie, he was copied. His corpse remains quite dead. IIRC, he was even starting to get ripe when they buried him.

And let's not use the character of Ben as an expert on Lost canon. That "dead is dead" comment is coming from someone who apparently didn't know shit.

[Blake]

Unburied dead bodies. I think Jacob's "bodyguards" even mentioned it, or was it Richard?

Fake Locke from a corpse on Ajira 316.

Fake Christian from a corpse on Oceanic 815.

but he didn't just raise Locke in the same manner as Christian....

he is inside of Locke. It was mentioned that that will be his body permanently.

my question is why? why not just use Locke the same way as he did Christian?

[Blake]

And let's not use the character of Ben as an expert on Lost canon. That "dead is dead" comment is coming from someone who apparently didn't know shit.

good point..

[Blake]

Locke was only dead one time: when Ben took an electrical cord to his throat. The healing properties of the island are a known quantity, even semi-miraculous, but like Ben said when talking about this very subject: dead is dead. You don't come back. Smoky has proved he can raise a look-a-like avatar of an unburied body, BUT THAT IS NOT THAT PERSON. Locke wasn't raised by Smokie, he was copied. His corpse remains quite dead. IIRC, he was even starting to get ripe when they buried him.

Sayid wasn't copied......

[exstatic]

but he didn't just raise Locke in the same manner as Christian....

he is inside of Locke. It was mentioned that that will be his body permanently.

my question is why? why not just use Locke the same way as he did Christian?

How do you know he's not inside Christian the same way? Have they shown avatar Locke and Avatar Christian together? You're making assumptions that Smokie can't animate two different bodies. It doesn't even have to be simultaneous. FLocke doesn't cease to be when he turns back into the monster. Why would Flocke cease to be if Smokie decided to put his Christian face on for a while?

[EmptyMan]

Why did they not just have the Sonic Fence around the temple. Juliet used it in Season 3 to bitch slap the smoke monster.


After a mud fight with Kate I might add...

[exstatic]

Why did they not just have the Sonic Fence around the temple. Juliet used it in Season 3 to bitch slap the smoke monster.


After a mud fight with Kate I might add...

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/t/the-cult/album-sonic-temple.jpg


:hat:hat

[Blake]

How do you know he's not inside Christian the same way? Have they shown avatar Locke and Avatar Christian together? You're making assumptions that Smokie can't animate two different bodies. It doesn't even have to be simultaneous. FLocke doesn't cease to be when he turns back into the monster. Why would Flocke cease to be if Smokie decided to put his Christian face on for a while?

"Ilana stated that the only human form the Man in Black can now transform into is that of "John Locke". "


http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Jacob's_nemesis

[IronMaxipad]

I hope the next couple of episodes give us more answers then questions.
Although it being LOST i highly doubt that's the case. Still I am enjoying this season.

[JudynTX]

Tonight's episode is called Recon.

Locke tasks Sawyer with a mission.

:D

[EmptyMan]

Sayid is dead to me. Killing the Samurai was not cool.

Ilana needs more camera time imo.

[Spurminator]

Sayid is dead to me. Killing the Samurai was not cool.

Ilana needs more camera time imo.

Less clothing too. It's got to be getting hot out there, all that walking around...

[Xylus]

Sawyer episode tonight. Best character on Lost, in my opinion, or at least tied with Ben Linus.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Less clothing too. It's got to be getting hot out there, all that walking around...

She was topless in Rome. ;)

[Texas Chili Dog]

Sawyer's a cop!! Oh shit! :lol

[Amarelooms]

What did they reveal in this episode?? Not a damn thing....fuckers :elephant

[EmptyMan]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


I hate the flashes this season. Just stay in present time and answer the goddamned questions.

[EmptyMan]

She was topless in Rome. ;)

oh lawd. Hail Ceasar

[Amarelooms]

Next week should be good...we learn about Richard :elephant

[exstatic]

Sawyer episode tonight. Best character on Lost, in my opinion, or at least tied with Ben Linus.

I find his angry, self-interested act boring. Probably my least favorite 815 survivor.

[Shaolin-Style]

Next week it's all about Richard

That's gonna be great

[EmptyMan]

I find his angry, self-interested act boring. Probably my least favorite 815 survivor.

He's the antihero. Always gotta have one of those in the crew.

[exstatic]

He's the antihero. Always gotta have one of those in the crew.

I recognize the need for the type of character in the show. He just seems like a garden variety one.

[Kermit]

I recognize the need for the type of character in the show. He just seems like a garden variety one.

I fucking love the guy, but he elicits hatred in some of my friends who watch the show. Shit, I've been wanting Kate's character to die for the last five years.

[IronMaxipad]

Goddamn the lack of answers is starting to piss me off. And is anyone else getting tired of the fuckin flash sideways story line? :bang

[AFBlue]

This was a good episode in general, but unlike the last one w/ Ben this didn't reach some kind of climax that revealed Sawyer's true character. In that way it was a letdown.

Still, I think it's setting everything up for the showdown and who is going to be on what side. No surprise that Sawyer is gonna be on his own side. Here are my questions though...

If all Jacob ever did was tell Sawyer it was gonna be alright when he was 9yrs old at a funeral, how does that effect him choosing to be a cop over being a criminal later on? And if "Jim" is gonna kill Sawyer anyways...what the hell does it matter whether he became a cop or a criminal?

Hopefully those questions get answered when his true character is finally revealed.

Either way, I'm really excited about the Richard-centric episode next week...should be exploding with answers.

[Bullet Tooth Tony]

So there is going to be a war, I wonder where Jack's crew fits in all of this??

[Spurminator]

If all Jacob ever did was tell Sawyer it was gonna be alright when he was 9yrs old at a funeral, how does that effect him choosing to be a cop over being a criminal later on? And if "Jim" is gonna kill Sawyer anyways...what the hell does it matter whether he became a cop or a criminal?

Jacob handed young Sawyer the pen that he wrote his revenge letter with. I think that's probably an overrated moment of significance but it seems to be the key point where he gets to a crossroads between a life of crime and a life of law enforcement. In the end, his goal is the same, but at least he's not piling up a bunch of other sins to atone for in the meantime.

The first Sawyer essentially BECAME the man he wanted to kill. This Sawyer became more like the man he was in the Dharma initiative.

[AFBlue]

Jacob handed young Sawyer the pen that he wrote his revenge letter with. I think that's probably an overrated moment of significance but it seems to be the key point where he gets to a crossroads between a life of crime and a life of law enforcement. In the end, his goal is the same, but at least he's not piling up a bunch of other sins to atone for in the meantime.

The first Sawyer essentially BECAME the man he wanted to kill. This Sawyer became more like the man he was in the Dharma initiative.

Nice catch on Jacob's significance! :toast

So, I figure he'll find "Sawyer" at some point in this season and that'll be the climax. Right now "Jim" says he'll kill him, but when push comes to shove will he actually do it?

[JudynTX]

Sawyer's a cop!! Oh shit! :lol

:lol That's what I said!

Yea, we didn't many answers but I think that episode was for the ladies. IYKWIM. :eyebrows

Can't wait for the Richard-centric episode!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Xylus]

I'm sure the Alpert-centric episode will satisfy some of you answer junkies out there. :lol

[Kamala]

Richard is a cool character.I hear nestor carbonell may play khan in the next star trek movie.
I'm sure the Alpert-centric episode will satisfy some of you answer junkies out there. :lol

[Kamala]

I don't expect many real answers till the last 2 episodes. Then they will answer the questions like a son bitch.
What did they reveal in this episode?? Not a damn thing....fuckers :elephant

[Death In June]

There seems to be a lot of talking about things we already knew, a lot of aimless wandering around, and general bullshit to be had this season. It's like I am watching lord of the rings, reduced to scenes were the hobbits are walking. It shouldn't take until the final two episodes to get interesting, but if you tivo the episodes and skip through the flash sideways stuff, a condensed episode is actually approaching average. That's my glass half full take. But on a more story related note, I am hoping smoke monster turns out to be the good (as good as you can be on lost) guy. Jacob really bothers me, but I'm seeing a ton of christ/god/satan references in episodes, so I am thinking he represents good. It looks like he has a plan for them all, that they must accept on faith alone. And smoke monster is rebelling against Jacob, rejecting paradise, tempting fallen humans to leave Jacob with the promise of earthly pleasures in the guise of Locke, who died for the islanders and was buried in a christ-like pose.

[Blake]

But on a more story related note, I am hoping smoke monster turns out to be the good (as good as you can be on lost) guy.

Smokey killing off Eko still irks me.

I dunno. I don't really think either are that good or that bad.........like Ben/Widmore.

[JudynTX]

Does someone have an answer to this....

Why does Widmore want the island so badly?

[Blake]

Does someone have an answer to this....

Why does Widmore want the island so badly?

He definitely knows Richard.

My only guess is that he wants a shot at immortality.

[EmptyMan]

What's killing this season for me is they keep interrupting the actual show (good stuff) and introducing an alternate reality storyline that I have absolutely nothing invested in.

They have gotten carried away with the flashes (even though I'm sure the sideways ones tie-in/answer something in the end).

[Blake]

What's killing this season for me is they keep interupting the actual show (good stuff) and introducing an alternate reality storyline that I have absolutely nothing invested in.

+1

They need to start connecting the side stories to the big story.

The Ben being a teacher was sort of interesting, but overall it was worthless.

[exstatic]

What's killing this season for me is they keep interrupting the actual show (good stuff) and introducing an alternate reality storyline that I have absolutely nothing invested in.

They have gotten carried away with the flashes (even though I'm sure the sideways ones tie-in/answer something in the end).

That. Stop fighting them, and just watch. I have a feeling they will prove to be like pieces of the Lost jigsaw puzzle, and you won't get the whole picture if you ignore them or blow them off as useless.

[IronMaxipad]

What's killing this season for me is they keep interrupting the actual show (good stuff) and introducing an alternate reality storyline that I have absolutely nothing invested in.

They have gotten carried away with the flashes (even though I'm sure the sideways ones tie-in/answer something in the end).
Co-sign Same thing i said couple of post back.

The Alternate reality + lack of answers is what is killing it for me.

[JudynTX]

:nerd Tonight it's all about Richard. :tu

[Blake]

:nerd Tonight it's all about Richard. :tu

hopefully the episode lives up to the hype

[JudynTX]

hopefully it lives up to the hype

:lol Debbie Downer!

[Blake]

:lol Debbie Downer!

if it lives up to the hype, then I won't be a dd

[101A]

Read up on Jacob and Esau - Old Testament; when Smokey started talking about his momma last week got me thinking. Might be something in that.

[JudynTX]

if it lives up to the hype, then I won't be a dd

It's going by too fast. The end is near. :depressed

[JudynTX]

Read up on Jacob and Esau - Old Testament; when Smokey started talking about his momma last week got me thinking. Might be something in that.

Can you cut and paste for me? :D

[Blake]

Read up on Jacob and Esau - Old Testament; when Smokey started talking about his momma last week got me thinking. Might be something in that.

that's what I thought of when I first saw them sitting on the island together.

Some kind of Jacob/Esau meets Cain/Abel mixed in with some Egyptian temple magic

but I have no idea any more.

[Death In June]

Possible spoilers....


There was a site promoting the show in another country that had captioned the smoke monster as "Jacobs brother." It was later taken down, per request of ABC.

[sonic21]

Richard is easily my favorite character, i don't want to be disappointed.

[JudynTX]

Possible spoilers....


There was a site promoting the show in another country that had captioned the smoke monster as "Jacobs brother." It was later taken down, per request of ABC.

:tu I agree.


that's what I thought of when I first saw them sitting on the island together.

Some kind of Jacob/Esau meets Cain/Abel mixed in with some Egyptian temple magic

but I have no idea any more.

I think so too.


Richard is easily my favorite character, i don't want to be disappointed.

I think your jaw will drop after tonight's episode. :toast

[Mixability]

to be honest, i never even watched one episode of Lost. I didn't want to catch it halfway through since I know I'd be LOST. I'm looking forward to the end of it, since I hope to start from season 1 and go through it all at once. I hope its worth it.

[Blake]

Richard is easily my favorite character, i don't want to be disappointed.

Richard was cool until he started looking like a wuss that had no answers to anything any more.

[Blake]

to be honest, i never even watched one episode of Lost. I didn't want to catch it halfway through since I know I'd be LOST. I'm looking forward to the end of it, since I hope to start from season 1 and go through it all at once. I hope its worth it.

imo, season 1 is the best.

best character that still never got enough air time: Desmond

[sonic21]

Richard was cool until he started looking like a wuss that had no answers to anything any more.

but his blue shirt is badass. I want the same.

I like him because he's the most mysterious character

[EmptyMan]

Tonight will be the most epic Lost episode of all time save the season finale of Season 1.



inb4 instead of flashbacks, we get flashsideways where he is a Ballerina instructor at a prestigious New York academy.

[Texas Chili Dog]

****NOTE for anyone recording tonight's show on DVR (which includes myself)****

This episode will run until SIX minutes past the hour. So set your recording devices accordingly.

[Blake]

thanks

[Amarelooms]

So there are some answers.....

[IronMaxipad]

to be honest, i never even watched one episode of Lost. I didn't want to catch it halfway through since I know I'd be LOST. I'm looking forward to the end of it, since I hope to start from season 1 and go through it all at once. I hope its worth it.
Get netflix you can stream seasons 1-5.

[Amarelooms]

forgot my :elephant ^^^....sorry sons

[EmptyMan]

zomg loved the cork metaphor

[JudynTX]

zomg loved the cork metaphor

That was great. :tu

Man, I actually cried a lil during Richard's story. Damn, he's been through hell. Is that where they are? :(

OMG EPIC EPISODE!! :worthy: :worthy:

[EmptyMan]

Nah, it's not Hell. MiB was just using that because he knew Richard would believe it.

I think MiB might be the devil though, and Jacob is/was the current guardian.

[JudynTX]

Did anyone hear the name of the sheriff or whatever he was that came and recruited Richard? Last name was Hanso. :D

Do you think Richard was being recruited at that moment by Jacob? Also, Richard got baptized. :)

[exstatic]

Did anyone hear the name of the sheriff or whatever he was that came and recruited Richard? Last name was Hanso. :D

Do you think Richard was being recruited at that moment by Jacob? Also, Richard got baptized. :)

He also drank wine with Jacob, which could be seen as one form of the Eucharist.

[Stringer_Bell]

Did anyone hear the name of the sheriff or whatever he was that came and recruited Richard? Last name was Hanso.

Yup, but we never saw Magnus, just that Whitman (I think?) fellow that started killing the ship passengers. In an earlier episode, Widmore bought some stuff like a diary at a Magnus Hanso auction though, I think Desmond was in the room too.

Tonight was one of the best episodes of LOST ever because it was so immersive, you just get "lost" in the story and the cinematography was amazing. The only bad part was stupid Hurley saying "I can't tell you Jack cuz it's got nothing to do with you." It's that kind of secretive horseshit I hate coming out of the characters trapped on an island that could be killed at any time, especially Hurley. He's sucked since season 3 after being the coolest and the writers make his dialogue so lame.

Since MiB is trapped there, that kind of explains the chain rattling we hear when he's the black smoke. It makes sense that he can't escape using ocean, but I'm wondering HOW he plans to get out. Obviously, this game started with Richard being the first representative and I'm sure Jacob has something planned to stop MiB and we'll start to see it in the next few episodes.

[Shaolin-Style]

anyone else think the alternate reality is going to end in some huge disaster to reinforce the importance of keeping smokey on the island?

i loved this episode with Richard though. One of the best in the entire series I think.

[Death In June]

Overall, a pretty good episode. I'm sort of irritated with the christianity parallels, but I doubt it will end up being so straightforward. I would have thought the cork was to keep the electromagnetic properties of the island at bay, but uh I guess keeping sin and suffering from consuming everyone is interesting too.

[Texas Chili Dog]

AMAZING

What I loved about this episode is that it didn't keep going back and forth between the past and present. When it went to the past, it stayed there for almost the rest of the episode. And Richard's back story was riveting. Definitely one of the best episodes of the series. Loved it!

[MannyIsGod]

I think the writers love throwing in symbolism but I don't think that mens there is a certain "Christian" or any other theme. I think its a way of letting people pick up on clues. Its always been that way with Lost and its one of the reasons that its so fun to watch.

One thing I noticed tonight was how they referenced the Man In Black. Those familiar with the Dark Tower series by Stephen King have to like that. Also, while Richard isn't exactly Roland both names are similar and both are cursed with a form of immortality. Might all be coincidence but I don't think so.

[LnGrrrR]

AMAZING

What I loved about this episode is that it didn't keep going back and forth between the past and present. When it went to the past, it stayed there for almost the rest of the episode. And Richard's back story was riveting. Definitely one of the best episodes of the series. Loved it!

My wife and I actually didn't like this episode. We already figured that MiB was the devil, or an analogue, and he couldn't get off as long as Jacob was alive. We also figured Richard came on the boat. I like when the flashes relate to the on-island stuff more, personally.

There's so many mysteries still... the Wheel that moves you through time, why Walt was special, the reason for the Dharma initiative, the properties of the island (pregnancy, healing), why the numbers were being transmitted and whether their numerous appearances are coincidental, why MiB is affected by sonics/ash... etc etc.

[LnGrrrR]

One thing I noticed tonight was how they referenced the Man In Black. Those familiar with the Dark Tower series by Stephen King have to like that. Also, while Richard isn't exactly Roland both names are similar and both are cursed with a form of immortality. Might all be coincidence but I don't think so.

Many forums actually compare the MiB to Randall Flagg.

[JudynTX]

Questions thought of overnight...... :lol

Why do you think Isabella is just now contacting Hurley?

Do you think the Black Rock could have crashed the statue?

So the whole theory behind Magnes and Alvo Hanso is true?

:bang

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Richard_Alpert

Is this the island?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Brendan's_Island

[Blake]

My wife and I actually didn't like this episode. We already figured that MiB was the devil, or an analogue, and he couldn't get off as long as Jacob was alive. We also figured Richard came on the boat. I like when the flashes relate to the on-island stuff more, personally.

There's so many mysteries still... the Wheel that moves you through time, why Walt was special, the reason for the Dharma initiative, the properties of the island (pregnancy, healing), why the numbers were being transmitted and whether their numerous appearances are coincidental, why MiB is affected by sonics/ash... etc etc.

+1 on everything there except that I liked the episode.

[JudynTX]

+1 on everything there except that I liked the episode.

I can't believe it. :rolleyes

:lol

[sonic21]

I think this episode answered many questions and made the rest of the season that more interesting

[JudynTX]

He also drank wine with Jacob, which could be seen as one form of the Eucharist.

:toast I was waiting for the bread to come out.

[sonic21]

I also want to know why Aaron needs to be raised by Claire and why he's so special.

[JudynTX]

I also want to know why Aaron needs to be raised by Claire and why he's so special.

The producers say he plays a big role so I can't wait to find out either. :tu

[sonic21]

The producers say he plays a big role so I can't wait to find out either. :tu

:tu

Hope he's the one who kills Kate. :wow

[Death In June]

Wasn't the black rock sailing on a clear, sunny day during the incident? What's up with that? Here's another interesting note and possible spoiler:
"More Four-Play: Just what you wanted (no?) a new four letter word that will be revealed in two weeks which is very important. If you want to play along, here goes: This word has no A's, one E, and as of episode 11 it will be clear that this four-letter word is what this series is ultimately all about. It's also the word that just might end up connecting the two worlds (the island and the Flash-Sideways Los Angeles) we've been seeing all season long." -Kristen from EOnline.
My guess is "test," or "lies."

[IronMaxipad]

Last night's episode was FUCKING AMAZING seriously.

[bostonguy]

Damn they keep doing the countdown to the 2 hour series finale. Every week they are going to remind us how many episodes before it. :depressed:depressed

[101A]

Get netflix you can stream seasons 1-5.

Or Hulu's got 'em free.

[Blake]

Or Hulu's got 'em free.

If you don't mind the three commercials per episode, it's actually not a terrible way to watch them.

[Xevious]

Wasn't the black rock sailing on a clear, sunny day during the incident? What's up with that?
The ship seen on the clear day could've been one of the many other ships/people that Jacob brought to the island and are long dead.

I loved this episode. The actor who plays Richard did such an awesome job. The rest of the episodes are going to really have to kick into high gear if they hope to explain everything though.

[Kermit]

The ship seen on the clear day could've been one of the many other ships/people that Jacob brought to the island and are long dead.

I loved this episode. The actor who plays Richard did such an awesome job. The rest of the episodes are going to really have to kick into high gear if they hope to explain everything though.

His name is Batmanuel.

http://images.filmstew.com/ReviewsViews/17437/carbonnell_batmanuel.jpg

[EmptyMan]

Wasn't the black rock sailing on a clear, sunny day during the incident? What's up with that? Here's another interesting note and possible spoiler:
"More Four-Play: Just what you wanted (no?) a new four letter word that will be revealed in two weeks which is very important. If you want to play along, here goes: This word has no A's, one E, and as of episode 11 it will be clear that this four-letter word is what this series is ultimately all about. It's also the word that just might end up connecting the two worlds (the island and the Flash-Sideways Los Angeles) we've been seeing all season long." -Kristen from EOnline.
My guess is "test," or "lies."

I don't think that was the Black Rock. Richard crashed in the 1800's. Jacob said Richard was not the first to come to the island. That means the people who came before could only have gotten there by old school ship as well.


I like how the producers throw in dialogue that suggests the plot answer that many forum people have speculated all of these years. Island is Hell, Island is purgatory, they are all dead, Juliet mentioned Aliens were involved in Season 3 etc etc. They just toy with us.

I have pretty much become content that they will not answer anything until the last episode. I want to know the detail answers though. Like is the psychic who dealt with Claire really a psychic or is he a fake like he told Eko. I doubt any of that detail stuff gets answered.

[Stringer_Bell]

I have pretty much become content that they will not answer anything until the last episode. I want to know the detail answers though. Like is the psychic who dealt with Claire really a psychic or is he a fake like he told Eko. I doubt any of that detail stuff gets answered.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it was established he was fake. I can't be bothered to look shit up, but rest assured the answer to that question is in there somewhere and it says he's a fake. :)

The only things I want to know are...Cerebus vent? WTF is the Donkey Wheel in terms of its working mechanism? What is the purple light that appeared when the fail safe key was turned? What are the whispers? How is Desmond "unique"? How did that old lady show up in Dreams and real and turn out to be Faraday's mom? Degroots are Adam and Eve? Alvar Hanso? I think that's it.

[Blake]

I like how the producers throw in dialogue that suggests the plot answer that many forum people have speculated all of these years. Island is Hell, Island is purgatory, they are all dead, Juliet mentioned Aliens were involved in Season 3 etc etc. They just toy with us.



I guess we know they aren't really dead on the island......just don't know how alive they really are either.

so the island is an eternal cork that keeps the bad in the bottle, but somehow Ben felt the need to transport the cork.

and why is the eternal cork in the ocean in the sideways timeline? does that mean that there is no smokey or jacob in the sideways?

[JudynTX]

Tuesday's episode brings another look into the lives of the Kwon family (#42). Who is the candidate? Will Jin and Sun find each other again?

[Stringer_Bell]

Tuesday's episode brings another look into the lives of the Kwon family (#42). Who is the candidate? Will Jin and Sun find each other again?

Not really giving a shit about Sun anymore, she's an annoyingly scripted self-important douche. I like Jin tho, hope he'll be alright!

I suspect this episode will have a lot of action because if it's just "drama" about Jin/Sun I can just picture the viewers rolling their eyes at how boring it is compared to recent weeks. The writers must know better by now, I predict action!

[LnGrrrR]

Actually, I'm pretty sure it was established he was fake. I can't be bothered to look shit up, but rest assured the answer to that question is in there somewhere and it says he's a fake. :)

The only things I want to know are...Cerebus vent? WTF is the Donkey Wheel in terms of its working mechanism? What is the purple light that appeared when the fail safe key was turned? What are the whispers? How is Desmond "unique"? How did that old lady show up in Dreams and real and turn out to be Faraday's mom? Degroots are Adam and Eve? Alvar Hanso? I think that's it.


SPOILERS AHEAD SPOILERS AHEAD SPOILERS AHEAD






















According to sources, there's a whole episode dedicated to explaining the FDW, and the Cerberus Vents get some play too. A few deaths are coming as well...

Oh and there's a Des-centric episode supposedly. No clue when/if they'll go into detail on Eloise Hawking, and don't expect any info on the DeGroots or Hansos.

[Blake]

uh, what is FDW and cerebrus vents?

Good to know that a des epipsode is coming.....would have been disappointed if they didn't have one more though after all they have put him through to this point.

[sonic21]

uh, what is FDW and cerebrus vents?

Good to know that a des epipsode is coming.....would have been disappointed if they didn't have one more though after all they have put him through to this point.

FDW=frozen wheel

[Blake]

FDW=frozen wheel

ah....the letter D threw me off.

'frozen damn wheel'

[JudynTX]

ah....the letter D threw me off.

'frozen damn wheel'

:lol

[sonic21]

i just googled it: Frozen Donkey Wheel

[Blake]

ah.

I still think it's hilarious how the island cork that holds in all the evil in the world can travel through time and space if you simply spin a frozen donkey wheel.

[Stringer_Bell]

@ LnGrrrR's spoiler: No Degroots, Hawking, or Hansos = bullshit waste of time. Way to hype stuff up and not answer it, LOST. :(

[Death In June]

Not a bad episode, but again, not much in the way of progression. But, based on spoilers, I don't expect the season to get interesting until two or three episodes from now.

[Kermit]

I just want the fucker to end. Oh, and there's a Jacob/MIB episode dealing with how they got on the island that should be good. Allegedly.

[Stringer_Bell]

It was okay, not nearly as bad as it could have been. I liked the ending when Jack made the promise, it was a reminder that promises from people (humans w/ all their limitations) are more emotionally gratifying than promises from MiB/Jacob types (godlike beings that seem basically perfect).

omg lyke the package is actually a person!!!

PS: I wonder if the "stubborn" alive tomato is foreshadowing the next chapter in the Sun/Jin story :p:

[LnGrrrR]

@ LnGrrrR's spoiler: No Degroots, Hawking, or Hansos = bullshit waste of time. Way to hype stuff up and not answer it, LOST. :(

Stringer, I know. But I don't think they have time/interest to explore that. It will probably get released somewhere down the line when they need money.

I've gotta say, personally I thought the island was much cooler when it was mysterious and looked to be a science experiment, than the plaything of two gods. Ah well.

[ATRAIN]

when the said the package was a person how many said "Desmond" I know I did.

[JudynTX]

Hmmmmm.....kinda disappointed with last night's episode. :sleep

Sun dies in the Flash Sideways? They weren't married, that sorta threw a twist in the equation. Looks like the Kwon name etched in that cave was Jin.

Desmond is back. :tu What could Widmore possibly want him to do?

[Sii]

:wow I thought last night was good actually. Ive always liked the Sun/Jin backstory and the stuff with MIB and Widmore looks to be ready to blowup

[JudynTX]

:wow I thought last night was good actually. Ive always liked the Sun/Jin backstory and the stuff with MIB and Widmore looks to be ready to blowup

A war is coming. :tu

[Blake]

when the said the package was a person how many said "Desmond" I know I did.

there was noone else it could be.

I wonder where Penneh is, brother.

[Blake]

Hmmmmm.....kinda disappointed with last night's episode. :sleep

Sun dies in the Flash Sideways? They weren't married, that sorta threw a twist in the equation. Looks like the Kwon name etched in that cave was Jin.

Desmond is back. :tu What could Widmore possibly want him to do?

I doubt Sun dies......she's only shot.

Maybe the baby got shot too, and as stringer bell alluded to, maybe the tomato is a sign of the baby making it. I dunno.

Hell, maybe the Kwon name listed in that cave is neither Sun nor Jin......maybe it's the daughter. :wow

[JudynTX]

I doubt Sun dies......she's only shot.

Maybe the baby got shot too, and as stringer bell alluded to, maybe the tomato is a sign of the baby making it. I dunno.

Hell, maybe the Kwon name listed in that cave is neither Sun nor Jin......maybe it's the daughter. :wow

:bang Oh shit, you might be right. :lol

[Blake]

I would like to know how smokey decides who he wants to kill and who he wants to keep alive.

I also wonder if once you start agree to start working for Jacob or MIB, if you become untouchable, i.e. Richard. If I was MIB, I would have smoked Richard back in 1876 before he started working for Jacob.

[sonic21]

when the said the package was a person how many said "Desmond" I know I did.

it was obvious, but i was hoping it would be walt or aaron

[Blake]

it was obvious, but i was hoping it would be walt or aaron

ohhhh..... Walt being the package would have blown me away.

Missed opportunity by the writers there, imo.

[Stringer_Bell]

ohhhh..... Walt being the package would have blown me away.

Missed opportunity by the writers there, imo.

Wow, that totally was a missed chance for a real game-changer. Knowing the writers though, they'll probably just show him with Michael in the FSW without explaining shit...just like they won't explain the Degroots or Hansos! :ihit

Also, I love Sayid being a numb expressionless robot. Reminds me of the robot from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, a total Debbie Downer.

[Blake]

Also, I love Sayid being a numb expressionless robot. Reminds me of the robot from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, a total Debbie Downer.

I'm not sure what to make of Sayid at this point.

I liked him best when he was working for Ben....

which brings me to another opinion of how much it sucks that Ben has gone from being a major player of control to nothing more than a Lostie.

[exstatic]

ohhhh..... Walt being the package would have blown me away.

Missed opportunity by the writers there, imo.

Walt was yet another in a long line of red herrings on Lost. AFAIK, he wasn't even a candidate.

Did anyone else catch FLocke basically giving Clair permission to kill Kate once she lures in the other side's survivors?

[Blake]

Did anyone else catch FLocke basically giving Clair permission to kill Kate once she lures in the other side's survivors?

yeah.....if she's no longer a candidate, I have no problem with seeing a big clair-kate cat fight.

[Blake]

if Flocke gets killed, I wonder if there is someone that will take his place?

[jaffies]

ohhhh..... Walt being the package would have blown me away.

Missed opportunity by the writers there, imo.

I had higher aspirations, too. The 1st person that came to my mind was Walt.
But shit, I wanted Malcolm David Kelly from 6 years ago Walt.

I'm hanging on to hope for #1 on my LOST wishlist:
In my head, the only thing that can redeem the producers/writers from a Walt-gate debacle is if they have a all-revealing scene or full episode with Walt. But not the Walt we see today, NOOO. I want the production team to have had the foresight to have filmed several crucial scenes with 2004 Walt and have them already in the can, waiting for editing. I wanna see a scene where young Walt meets MiB and is told he's the only one that can release him from the island. Or something like that. But that shit ain't gonna happen :(

[Death In June]

I would like to know how smokey decides who he wants to kill and who he wants to keep alive.

I also wonder if once you start agree to start working for Jacob or MIB, if you become untouchable, i.e. Richard. If I was MIB, I would have smoked Richard back in 1876 before he started working for Jacob.I would assume he can kill anyone but the candidates, as the blond haired boy that showed up in the jungle told him it was against the rules to kill Sawyer. So I'm assuming he needs to kill all the candidates to leave the island, but can't do it himself.

[Stringer_Bell]

I would assume he can kill anyone but the candidates, as the blond haired boy that showed up in the jungle told him it was against the rules to kill Sawyer. So I'm assuming he needs to kill all the candidates to leave the island, but can't do it himself.

BINGO! He alluded to still needing Claire, so I reckon he's got a plan to have her kill people. Maybe by blowing up the plane with everyone on it...and the race is for Richard to blow up the plane first before anyone can board it? Meanwhile something bad happens to the sub, so everyone feels totally LOST like they have no way off the island until...the way out is explained in the 2 hour finale! :p:

LOL @ Walt being a red herring when the real game was about the candidates from the very start. I dunno, I feel like the candidate thing was conceived around season 3...the Walt thing was just to get people open minded about the supernatural elements that could be added to the show as a way of explaining things. The producers saw people were accepting of it, so they added all sorts of weird shit such as the Frozen Donkey Wheel, Miles talking to dead people, immortality, and time travel. They have no need for Walt, they are telling a totally different story now. :(

[LnGrrrR]

Here's the thing... Kate's name, AFAIK, WASN'T crossed out in the lighthouse. So why was it crossed out in the cave? That's gotta play a role down the line.

The producers have said that we'll get more info on Walt... to which I say, f'ing right we better.

Definitely gave the go-ahead to Claire to off Kate after they get off the island.

We also figured out why MiB hasn't left already, definitely.

And yeah, I think the candidate thing was started after S3, when they got the go-ahead for three more seasons.

[EmptyMan]

Last episode was zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Just waiting for last episode now pretty much.

I feel fairly confident Vincent is the missing piece in all of this, and the true sleeper candidate. :hat

[Blake]

Last episode was zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Just waiting for last episode now pretty much.

+1 ......seems like just a bunch of filler episodes.


I feel fairly confident Vincent is the missing piece in all of this, and the true sleeper candidate. :hat

Vincent!

[IronMaxipad]

Last episode was zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Just waiting for last episode now pretty much.

I feel fairly confident Vincent is the missing piece in all of this, and the true sleeper candidate. :hat
Co-Sign on the zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz part :lol

*spoiler* Vincent will be back

[IronMaxipad]

April 1, 2010

ABC Announces “’Lost’ Series Finale Countdown Clock”

ABC chief McPherson says, “Don’t tell me what I can’t do.”

Countdown clock will appear in lower right corner of all ABC primetime programming between now and the two hour Lost finale event on Sunday May 23, 2010 at 9pm

During Lost finale, clock will change to “The End of Lost Countdown,” counting down the final 120 minutes of Lost and will feature Jimmy Kimmel

Stephen McPherson, president ABC Entertainment Group, today announced the “Lost Series Finale Countdown Clock” which will count the days, hours and minutes until the Lost finale. The “Countdown Clock” will be displayed in the lower right corner during all ABC primetime programming between now and Sunday, May 23 at 9pm.

“We know Lost fans sometimes come off as a bunch of self-entitled whiners, but they are high-income self-entitled whiners who buy our advertisers’ products so we love them. We want to celebrate the fans and celebrate with them for the remainder of Lost,” said McPherson.

“There was some backlash over the countdown clock for “V” which aired during an episode of Lost earlier this week, but our research indicates that more than being annoyed that there was something on the screen, fans were outraged there was something on the screen that wasn’t about Lost,” McPherson added.

Lost fans wanting to know whether the countdown to the finale will also appear during the remaining episodes of Lost preceding the finale the answer is yes.

“Of course the “Lost Series Finale Countdown Clock” will air during the Lost episodes before the finale,” said McPherson. “But because the average Lost fan is precise and detail-oriented, during Lost episodes the counter will give the exact number of seconds remaining rather than the number of days, hours and minutes until the finale.”

McPherson scoffed at the suggestion that ABC can’t do this.

“This is destiny — I’m supposed to do this, dammit,” said McPherson.

“Don’t tell me what I can’t do,” he added.

During the two hour finale that begins at 9pm on Sunday May 23, the “Series Finale Countdown Clock” will change to “The End of Lost Countdown Clock” counting down the final 7,200 seconds left in the series.

Once every 15 minutes during the finale, Jimmy Kimmel will show up in a large-ish picture-in-picture window in the lower right of your screen and announce how much time is left for Lost. During the final three minutes Kimmel will count down the last 180 seconds out loud.”

“We’re sure Lost fans will complain no matter what we do and given all the fan questions that will go unanswered, we thought it would be fun to distract them with a few minutes of Jimmy Kimmel,” said series co-creator and executive producer Damon Lindelof.

“The only thing Lost fans like more than watching Lost is talking about Lost, and the talking they like most of all is complaining about Lost. This is a way for us to give the fans more of exactly what they want,” said executive producer Carlton Cuse.

“They’ll have years to complain about all the unanswered questions and how much they hated how we ended the series. As a bonus, they’ll also always have the memory of how the “Countdown Clock,” and particularly Kimmel, ruined the finale,” Cuse said.

Oceanic Air flight 815 tore apart in mid-air and crashed on a Pacific island, leaving 48 passengers alive and stranded on a remote island in the South Pacific. The survivors include a diverse group of people from different walks of life — a doctor, an escaped fugitive, a con man, an Iraqi interrogator, a married Korean couple and a man formerly confined to a wheelchair who is now inexplicably healed. As the castaways attempt to get home, flashbacks (and forwards) illuminate their troubled lives before and after the crash, as the island that they find themselves stranded on begins to slowly reveal its mysterious nature. Faith, reason, destiny and free will all clash as the island offers opportunities for both corruption and redemption… but as to its true purpose? That’s the greatest mystery of all.

“Lost” stars Naveen Andrews as Sayid, Nestor Carbonell as Richard Alpert, Emilie de Ravin as Claire, Michael Emerson as Ben, Jeff Fahey as Frank Lapidus, Matthew Fox as Jack, Jorge Garcia as Hurley, Josh Holloway as Sawyer, Daniel Dae Kim as Jin, Yunjin Kim as Sun, Ken Leung as Miles, Evangeline Lilly as Kate, Terry O’Quinn as Locke and Zuleikha Robinson as Ilana.

“Lost” was created by Jeffrey Lieber and J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof. Abrams, Lindelof, Bryan Burk, Jean Higgins, Elizabeth Sarnoff, Edward Kitsis, Adam Horowitz, Jack Bender and Carlton Cuse serve as executive producers. “Lost,” which is filmed entirely on location in Hawaii and premiered on September 22, 2004, is from ABC Studios. For more information on “Lost,” visit ABC.com




http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/04/01/abc-announces-lost-series-finale-countdown-clock%E2%80%9D/46838

[IronMaxipad]

ABC announces 2 new shows

Oh god :rollin:rollin

http://cdn.media.abc.go.com/m/images/image-util/624x351/903e4e4e213a5d2c46241efb36772d17.jpg

http://cdn.media.abc.go.com/m/images/image-util/624x351/6398677d7e1c5a40e86d6f3cc89c2728.jpg

[JudynTX]

ABC announces 2 new shows

Oh god :rollin:rollin

http://cdn.media.abc.go.com/m/images/image-util/624x351/903e4e4e213a5d2c46241efb36772d17.jpg

http://cdn.media.abc.go.com/m/images/image-util/624x351/6398677d7e1c5a40e86d6f3cc89c2728.jpg

:lmao Very nice!!!!!

[Blake]

http://cdn.media.abc.go.com/m/images/image-util/624x351/903e4e4e213a5d2c46241efb36772d17.jpg



:lol

[LnGrrrR]

I love that "Lost countdown clock" article :lol

[JudynTX]

Title of next episode.

Happily Ever After

[Blake]

Title of next episode.

Happily Ever After


this is trivial, but I thought the title of the last episode should have been something like "what the heart wants" instead of "the package."

I kept waiting and waiting to hear/see a package and it was nothing more than a sidenote near the end of the show.

[EmptyMan]

That's how Lost rolls.

The only parts worth seeing are the last 1:30 minutes and the teaser for next week.

[Jacob1983]

How many "brothas" can we expect to hear from Desmond in this new episode?

[sonic21]

hope we'll see penny and eloise again

[Blake]

How many "brothas" can we expect to hear from Desmond in this new episode?

that's a drinking game right there, brotha.

[Blake]

hope we'll see penny and eloise again

+1

...for the sake of answering a few questions, I'm hoping for an appearance more from eloise than penneh.

[EmptyMan]

Lost airing on Tuesdays is really great compared to Wednesdays. It sneaks up on me every time. This threat pretty much reminds me its on (tonight) every week.

[Stringer_Bell]

Lost airing on Tuesdays is really great compared to Wednesdays. It sneaks up on me every time. This threat pretty much reminds me its on (tonight) every week.

Me too. It used to feel like I'd have to wait forever week to week, but Tuesday seems to come quicker than Wednesday. Kudos to ABC for figuring that out! Now if only they'd give us some answers to LOST questions we actually care about. :(

[Death In June]

The first and last few minutes of this episode were awesome. I like the direction the story is headed, but jesus fuck, almost the entire episode was lacking. Just not a lot happened. There was about 6-7 minutes of plot progression and entertaining television, but the rest of it was painful.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Desmond FTW. Great episode. I thought it was kinda blah to start, but it kept getting better and better. Also, this Charlie kinda freaks me out.

[exstatic]

I counted three "brothas". Charlie almost drowned (again).

It seems like the dead from the Island (and a few others like Eloise and possibly Charles) have the 411 on what's going on in the sideways timeline, but now Desmond's about to blow the lid off everything by getting the passenger manifest from 815.

[mFFL03]

why do you all think he wants the manifest?

[Sii]

amazing episode tonight. one of the best of the season...hell prob one of my top 10 of the whole series. Yeah I really liked it that much. Discussing this on another board tonight and it was pretty universally loved

just so much to adsorb..I need to watch it again. Desmond is such a great character

[exstatic]

why do you all think he wants the manifest?

Desmond knows something's "wrong". He's going to contact others from the flight.

[LnGrrrR]

I loved this episode. Finally we see interaction between the timelines, plus we find out that Hawking and Widmore know about both realities in both timelines. Plus, Eloise mentioning a "violation" gave me a theory...

[sonic21]

I'll see you in another life brotha....

literally!! :wow

[JudynTX]

I'll see you in another life brotha....

literally!! :wow

:lol:lol I'm really torn, because I don't know what to think of last night's episode. *Scratches head*

Desmond's gonna blow the lid off what?

[exstatic]

I love the symmetries between the timelines. Charlie almost drowns again. Desmond "meets" Penny running steps in a stadium, and previously someone met him running steps in a stadium.

[exstatic]

I'm also wondering who Penny's mother is, and is that important to the story. Daniel clearly said last night that she was his half sister. We know that Charles is both of their fathers and that Eloise is Daniel's mother.

[JudynTX]

I'm also wondering who Penny's mother is, and is that important to the story. Daniel clearly said last night that she was his half sister. We know that Charles is both of their fathers and that Eloise is Daniel's mother.

I immediately thought the same thing when Daniel mentioned she was his "half-sister". Who could her mother be? Someone from the island?

Ok, I think I get it now. This show is ultimately about love. :D

[sonic21]

That was the reason he was banished from the island, because he had Penny with someone outside the island. He broke the rules.

[Sii]

I love the symmetries between the timelines. Charlie almost drowns again. Desmond "meets" Penny running steps in a stadium, and previously someone met him running steps in a stadium.


yeah he had met Jack in the stadium way back when

[sonic21]

I love the symmetries between the timelines. Charlie almost drowns again. Desmond "meets" Penny running steps in a stadium, and previously someone met him running steps in a stadium.

The stadium was also the last place he and penny saw each other before Desmond went to the island.

[Stringer_Bell]

It was a pretty abstract episode and could've been the 2nd best Desmond episode if the dialogue wasn't so damn awkward. I did like the idea that "you have the perfect life, there's nothing more you could want" yet Desmond DOES want something more, and it seems like all the characters are lacking that same something. And Desmond's going to tell them what it is! Every single passenger lol

The next episode is probably the last of the filler, then we get down to the real battle.

[EmptyMan]

I liked that episode, brother. Desmond is a great character.

The only thing I did not like was how quickly (rushed) Faraday put the pieces together in the alternate time line. The writers didn't give us shit all season and now Faraday all of a sudden sums the entire thing up in 3 minutes....

[JudynTX]

The only thing I did not like was how quickly (rushed) Faraday put the pieces together in the alternate time line. The writers didn't give us shit all season and now Faraday all of a sudden sums the entire thing up in 3 minutes....

Yea, that sucked. :lol

[LnGrrrR]

I liked that episode, brother. Desmond is a great character.

The only thing I did not like was how quickly (rushed) Faraday put the pieces together in the alternate time line. The writers didn't give us shit all season and now Faraday all of a sudden sums the entire thing up in 3 minutes....

I'm guessing Daniel wrote those equations in the notebook a few weeks ago. There's probably a mention of "Desmond Hume is my constant" in there too...

[JudynTX]

Question for all the Losties. :D

When the series is over, will you watch it all over again? :D

[bostonguy]

Question for all the Losties. :D

When the series is over, will you watch it all over again? :D

Hell yes. I am buying the entire collection once season 6 comes out.

[Kermit]

Question for all the Losties. :D

When the series is over, will you watch it all over again? :D

Fuck no. I've seen each episode one time and I plan on keeping it that way.

[IronMaxipad]

Question for all the Losties. :D

When the series is over, will you watch it all over again? :D
Hell yeah. Getting the complete series on blu-ray "brotha" -Desmond voice

[EmptyMan]

Question for all the Losties. :D

When the series is over, will you watch it all over again? :D

That's the best part about Lost! The series will be 10000x better once you understand the big picture I think. I thought season 3 sucked, but after having re-watched the entire series these past couple months, I appreciate it much more.

[exstatic]

I read online today that the scale with the black stone and the white stone was in Widmore's office scene from this episode. I'm gonna have to bust out the TiVo recording and check.


Ok, I think I get it now. This show is ultimately about love. :D
Time article - See comment 16 (http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2010/04/07/lostwatch-would-you-believe-in-a-love-at-first-sight/) :wow

[Stringer_Bell]

I read online today that the scale with the black stone and the white stone was in Widmore's office scene from this episode. I'm gonna have to bust out the TiVo recording and check.


Time article - See comment 16 (http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2010/04/07/lostwatch-would-you-believe-in-a-love-at-first-sight/) :wow

Okay, I like to think I understand the emotional level of LOST pretty good, it's the part I most appreciate. Jack is my favorite because of that. But Comment 16 totally kicks the ass of anything I would have thought of or put into words. I REALLY hope that's how this has all been set up, and if so it's a hell of a way to end this series. :toast

LOVE MUTHAFRAKKERS!!!!

[Texas Chili Dog]

I read online today that the scale with the black stone and the white stone was in Widmore's office scene from this episode. I'm gonna have to bust out the TiVo recording and check.


http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6215/scaleg.jpg

[Jacob1983]

I might sound stupid when I ask this but has Desmond figured out that there are two realities on Lost? Is that what that electro-magnet test or whatever it was did to him? And why is it that Desmond was basically the only person in the alternate dimension/reality that was happy? Last question then I will shut up, will Desmond's flash about Claire and Aaron being rescued off the island by helicopter come true? I remember in season 3 that Desmond told that to Charlie.

[LnGrrrR]

Desmond, by the end of the episode, DEFINITELY knows there are two timelines. And what's crazy is... I think there's only ONE Desmond now. I think, for all intents and purposes, the mind of alt-Desmond and reg-Desmond have merged.

[LnGrrrR]

Oh, and lots of others in the Alt are happy... Jack made up with his son, Hurley's lucky, Locke has found love and accepts his condition, etc etc.

[LnGrrrR]

I'm definitely getting this on Blu-Ray when it comes out. I've got great memories of the wife and I watching all of Season 1 and 2 on the weekends. :)

[JudynTX]

I read online today that the scale with the black stone and the white stone was in Widmore's office scene from this episode. I'm gonna have to bust out the TiVo recording and check.


Time article - See comment 16 (http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2010/04/07/lostwatch-would-you-believe-in-a-love-at-first-sight/) :wow

:D Wow, great find. And if that's how this all ends, I'm just gonna fuckin cry.


Okay, I like to think I understand the emotional level of LOST pretty good, it's the part I most appreciate. Jack is my favorite because of that. But Comment 16 totally kicks the ass of anything I would have thought of or put into words. I REALLY hope that's how this has all been set up, and if so it's a hell of a way to end this series. :toast

LOVE MUTHAFRAKKERS!!!!

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http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6215/scaleg.jpg

:worthy: Wow, I didn't catch that. Thanks!


Desmond, by the end of the episode, DEFINITELY knows there are two timelines. And what's crazy is... I think there's only ONE Desmond now. I think, for all intents and purposes, the mind of alt-Desmond and reg-Desmond have merged.

Thanks for making things clearer. :D

[exstatic]

:smokin Looks like we finally get the Hurley episode. That's what the preview appears to indicate. We also get a Michael callback.

"People are going to die, and it's going to be your fault." - Michael