Corey Brewer getting bought out.

[Shank]

It is widely known that the Spurs have the best organization in all of professional sports...

Holy. Shit.

[xmas1997]

so that rules out dallas.....:lol
:lol
Right, geeez, it must be awful to be a Mavs fan! :lol

:lobt2:

[Cry Havoc]

Yeah, Phillip, I'm crying about this:

Brendan Haywood

10/11 $6,900,000 - 11/12 $7,624,500 - 12/13 $8,349,000 - 13/14 - $9,073,500 14-15 $9,798,000 - 15/16 $10,522,500

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Or how about Terry taking home 22 mil this and next season.

Or Marion's 4 years guaranteed left worth a cool 33 mil+. :lmao

[cutewizard]

I can't help but think that regardless of all the BS Brewer is going to get from teams like the Mavs, that he won't jump at the chance to play under Pop with Manu, TP, and especially Timmy.
It is widely known that the Spurs have the best organization in all of professional sports envied by none other than pretenders like the Mavs.
Ask Finley or Barry or even Dyess?


yeah, we Spurs are the best, hehe....

so i mean, isnt that an INCENTIVE for cagers to join us??

[tdunk21]

Yeah, Phillip, I'm crying about this:

Brendan Haywood

10/11 $6,900,000 - 11/12 $7,624,500 - 12/13 $8,349,000 - 13/14 - $9,073,500 14-15 $9,798,000 - 15/16 $10,522,500

:lmao :lmao :lmao

mav FO is so dumb....lol

[EricB]

Thank god for the Mavs trolls to come in and set things straight on the Spurs board.

[cutewizard]

Yeah, Phillip, I'm crying about this:

Brendan Haywood

10/11 $6,900,000 - 11/12 $7,624,500 - 12/13 $8,349,000 - 13/14 - $9,073,500 14-15 $9,798,000 - 15/16 $10,522,500

:lmao :lmao :lmao


hello Cry Havok, how are you Sir?

did you do a grade on the grizzlies game?

thanks, and more power!

[Leetonidas]

If the mavs are serious about Brewer, they should just claim him off of waivers. They've got a TE big enough to use for the waiver claim. The Spurs, Celts and Thunder don't, so they can't make a claim. Sure it would cost the mavs more, but it completely eliminates any chance of Brewer ending up in a different uniform come playoff time.

From what I understand, he was bought out and not waived therefore he doesn't go on the waiver wire otherwise a team could've picked him up. I keep hearing him being referred to as a free agent so I assume the buyout cuts all ties.

[Cry Havoc]

hello Cry Havok, how are you Sir?

did you do a grade on the grizzlies game?

thanks, and more power!

I didn't, as I wasn't around until the 4th quarter. I plan on doing one for tonight's game, though. :tu

[cutewizard]

I didn't, as I wasn't around until the 4th quarter. I plan on doing one for tonight's game, though. :tu



looking forward to it

thank you Sir!

go Spurs go!!!!

[xmas1997]

From what Bruno says a few posts back, the Mavs can't offer him significantly more money than the Spurs.
It boils down to if Brewer wants to play with winners, a class organization and coach and players as the Spurs, or pretenders and BSers like the Mavs.

[dirkdirkastan]

I can't help but think that regardless of all the BS Brewer is going to get from teams like the Mavs, that he won't jump at the chance to play under Pop with Manu, TP, and especially Timmy.
It is widely known that the Spurs have the best organization in all of professional sports envied by none other than pretenders like the Mavs.
Ask Finley or Barry or even Dyess?

Christmas's head just keeps gets bigger everytime he talks out of his cock. I wonder why players often choose other teams over the Spurs? Seems to me Boston's much better of an organization and Spurs fans continue to dwell in the past.

[cutewizard]

this is a weird thought, but

i wonder if Antoine Walker is still serviceable?

that man can be a point forward......

well..........

[tdunk21]

this is a weird thought, but

i wonder if Antoine Walker is still serviceable?

that man can be a point forward......

well..........

he is in the D league i believe....lets show interest in him so that the mavs will get him .....

[coyotes_geek]

From what I understand, he was bought out and not waived therefore he doesn't go on the waiver wire otherwise a team could've picked him up. I keep hearing him being referred to as a free agent so I assume the buyout cuts all ties.

A buyout is just a renegotiation of the guaranteed money left on the contract before the team waives the player. That's why buyout guys can't sign with new teams immediately. They have to wait out the 48 hour waiver period.

[rjv]

From what Bruno says a few posts back, the Mavs can't offer him significantly more money than the Spurs.
It boils down to if Brewer wants to play with winners, a class organization and coach and players as the Spurs, or pretenders and BSers like the Mavs.

i've been reading that the mavs are leaning towards keeping pavlovic

[xmas1997]

Christmas's head just keeps gets bigger everytime he talks out of his cock. I wonder why players often choose other teams over the Spurs? Seems to me Boston's much better of an organization and Spurs fans continue to dwell in the past.

Keep wishing.
Must really be awful being a Mavs fan.
I really feel sorry for you ............................ NOT! :lol

By the way, have any of these :lobt2: ???????????

[Shank]

Keep wishing.
Must really be awful being a Mavs fan.
I really feel sorry for you ............................ NOT! :lol

By the way, have any of these :lobt2: ???????????

I know you're just trolling, but you can do better than this.

[dirkdirkastan]

Keep wishing.
Must really be awful being a Mavs fan.
I really feel sorry for you ............................ NOT! :lol

By the way, have any of these :lobt2: ???????????

The future is NOW.... Spurs fans continue to live in the past. The Spurs and their trophies of yesteryear.

And ask me that second question in June.

[Cry Havoc]

Holy. Shit.

If they aren't at the top, they're in the top 5-10 in all of sports. Definitely top 5 in the NBA, definitely in the conversation legitimately across all North American sports, soccer in Europe obviously notwithstanding.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/teamrankings

Obviously this is before LeBron departed, but the rest is pretty decent.

[tdunk21]

If they aren't at the top, they're in the top 5-10 in all of sports. Definitely top 5 in the NBA, definitely in the conversation legitimately across all North American sports, soccer in Europe obviously notwithstanding.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/teamrankings

Obviously this is before LeBron departed, but the rest is pretty decent.

:lol

LA at 3rd and Saints at 1

[ChumpDumper]

this is a weird thought, but

i wonder if Antoine Walker is still serviceable?

that man can be a point forward......

well..........


he is in the D league i believe....lets show interest in him so that the mavs will get him .....Still fat after 30 games.

[cutewizard]

he is in the D league i believe....lets show interest in him so that the mavs will get him .....



hahaha

lol

[xmas1997]

I know you're just trolling, but you can do better than this.


The future is NOW.... Spurs fans continue to live in the past. The Spurs and their trophies of yesteryear.

And ask me that second question in June.

Championship envy not withstanding, show me something NOW!
I guess your reg. season record is the best in the NBA or something of a NOW nature like that.

Oh, neither of you can?

So sorry, maybe next time.

Until either of you can say something meaningful, ponder this:

:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

[cutewizard]

its like this

probably Cuban is very, very envious of us Spurs....

he wants everything we have: the professionalism, the track record, the incredible coaching and scouting, the nba titles...

so he copies all our moves! hehe.....lol

i pity Cuban, he is actually a likable guy, he just wants the best for his team....


but the Spurs are the best, so.......

[cutewizard]

yeah we shall win the nba title again this year

hope springs eternal guys....

we just need a little luck, and two more players!


go Spurs go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[xmas1997]

:lol

LA at 3rd and Saints at 1


And the Saints came within a hairs breath of being the San Antonio Saints.
They are still the only NFL team to ever play a regular season game in San Antonio, and they played 3 here.

[Muser]

Spur fan really is the worst fan on this site.

[Shank]

its like this

probably Cuban is very, very envious of us Spurs....

he wants everything we have: the professionalism, the track record, the incredible coaching and scouting, the nba titles...

so he copies all our moves! hehe.....lol

i pity Cuban, he is actually a likable guy, he just wants the best for his team....


but the Spurs are the best, so.......

Riiiiiiiight. Because the Spurs are the only team in the NBA to ever win a title.

[xmas1997]

its like this

probably Cuban is very, very envious of us Spurs....

he wants everything we have: the professionalism, the track record, the incredible coaching and scouting, the nba titles...

so he copies all our moves! hehe.....lol

i pity Cuban, he is actually a likable guy, he just wants the best for his team....


but the Spurs are the best, so.......

No, sorry to say, but the only real genuine class act associated with the Mavs is Nowitski, and I bet secretly he wishes he was with the Spurs. :rollin

[cutewizard]

ok lets see, the final four will be like this after the final five:

1 Spurs
2 Dallas
3 LA
4 OKC
5 NO

OKC defeats NO in six perhaps??

SA over OKC in six also....

Dallas and LA in a dogfight seven?? wow

the winner of Dallas vs La is tired, then gets us Spurs next, no

Spurs in six, Nba finals already.....

gee whiz


so probably:

[dirkdirkastan]

Championship envy not withstanding, show me something NOW!
I guess your reg. season record is the best in the NBA or something of a NOW nature like that.

Oh, neither of you can?

So sorry, maybe next time.

Until either of you can say something meaningful, ponder this:

:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

I wonder why Spurs fans don't shove trophies in the faces of Laker or Celtic fans.... oh wait, I do!

Celtic...

:lobt2:x 17


Lakers...

:lobt2:x 17

[rayray2k8]

Are you guys gonna keep going back and forth and continue hijacking this thread? No one gives a shit about that right now. Just let this thread get bumped with updates on BREWER.
So give it a rest already.

[cutewizard]

No, sorry to say, but the only real genuine class act associated with the Mavs is Nowitski, and I bet secretly he wishes he was with the Spurs. :rollin



yeah, Imagine Dirk with us man...

Duncan at center,

Dirk and the Beast at forward, wow!! hahaha

poor Dirk, closest to Larry Legend ever

[will_spurs]

Riiiiiiiight. Because the Spurs are the only team in the NBA to ever win a title.

As far as we are concerned, yes :lmao

[dirkdirkastan]

Spur fan really is the worst fan on this site.

Can you be a little more specific?

[JR3]

I like how this has turned into a Mavs vs Spurs thread. Why compare the two when there is no comparison? Spurs are in a class on their own. Mavs can't touch them. It has already been said best a few posts back- If Brewer is a Spurs type of guy, he will choose the Spurs- not because we throw money at him or promise him playing time. The question is not "what can the spurs offer?" its "IS BREWER SPURS MATERIAL?"

[Muser]

Can you be a little more specific?

?

Just from this thread, dumbass spur fan has turned it into a "LOL MAVS HAVE N0 RINGS SO BREWER WONT GO THERE" type of thread.

[xmas1997]

I wonder why Spurs fans don't shove trophies in the faces of Laker or Celtic fans.... oh wait, I do!

Celtic...

:lobt2:x 17


Lakers...

:lobt2:x 17

You wish!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lmao
But I'm tired of jawing with you losers.
Go pester someone else.:nope

[cutewizard]

if you read the posts of various fans, i think we Spurs fans are the most respectful...

that's it

[Shank]

Are the Bulls still so high on Rasual Butler that they won't consider pairing up Brewer with his buddy Noah?

[ohmwrecker]

Spur fan really is the worst fan on this site.

Mavfan is in here arguing with these goofballs tbh.


Seriously though . . . knock the shit off or I will get DPG in here to bite your kneecaps!

[dirkdirkastan]

I like how this has turned into a Mavs vs Spurs thread. Why compare the two when there is no comparison? Spurs are in a class on their own. Mavs can't touch them. It has already been said best a few posts back- If Brewer is a Spurs type of guy, he will choose the Spurs- not because we throw money at him or promise him playing time. The question is not "what can the spurs offer?" its "IS BREWER SPURS MATERIAL?"

So, if he says yes, then he is. If he says no, then he isn't, right?

[cutewizard]

I like how this has turned into a Mavs vs Spurs thread. Why compare the two when there is no comparison? Spurs are in a class on their own. Mavs can't touch them. It has already been said best a few posts back- If Brewer is a Spurs type of guy, he will choose the Spurs- not because we throw money at him or promise him playing time. The question is not "what can the spurs offer?" its "IS BREWER SPURS MATERIAL?"



right, we hope he makes the right choice

coz i think we are only two role players away

defender plus situational big for insurance (either Pryz or the greek guy or Cousin) and we are set

[xmas1997]

Are you guys gonna keep going back and forth and continue hijacking this thread? No one gives a shit about that right now. Just let this thread get bumped with updates on BREWER.
So give it a rest already.

I stand corrected.
I will no longer respond or feed the trolls.:flag:

[tdunk21]

ESPN insider update:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors


UPDATE No. 2: According to Alan Hahn of Newsday, Brewer has now officially been bought out.

With Brewer now off the team. the Knicks are "expected to sign Jared Jeffries [Tuesday] once he clears waivers," added Hahn.

Alex Kennedy of HOOPSWORLD tweeted that Brewer has "calls lined up with several coaches [Tuesday], and he'll make a decision shortly after."

Kennedy lists Boston, Dallas, San Antonio, Oklahoma City and Chicago -- a bit of a confliction with Johnson's tweet below -- as teams that "want" Brewer.

[cutewizard]

and sometimes i think it all boils down to the people around a cager,

the people who give him advice, say the wife or anyone within the family/close friends circle

our front office obviously knows this, so if we can target the people around the cager, the people who matter.....and let them know/convince them about the various "intangibles" for those who are playing for the Spurs, then the cager "might see the Light"......

and decide in our favor....

a big if....

[JR3]

So, if he says yes, then he is. If he says no, then he isn't, right?

You got it buddy.

[cd98]

I wonder why Spurs fans don't shove trophies in the faces of Laker or Celtic fans.... oh wait, I do!

Celtic...

:lobt2:x 17


Lakers...

:lobt2:x 17

Kinda funny reading this from a Mav fan. Must be tough having to borrow credibility from other franchises.

[VI_Massive]

Maybe OKC is the dark horse here....but they have only a back up role to offer as well. I said it before, I think this could come down to something as simple as "The Mavs said I'll start".

[Muser]

Why would they waive Brewer for Jared fucking Jeffries? Wow..

I can't see him going to Boston or OKC. Dallas is probably the fave because of the money Cubes can throw at him.

[cutewizard]

the problem for a devoted fan like me is: i got this "we should have an additional player thing"

and i cant shake this off.....goodness!!!

i keep coming back to this site, expecting the good news that we have landed someone who can help us.....both of course, there's no good news yet

i hope the front office makes our dreams come true...........

[JR3]

right, we hope he makes the right choice

coz i think we are only two role players away

defender plus situational big for insurance (either Pryz or the greek guy or Cousin) and we are set

I am a believer that we can very well win with what we have. But getting one or two more pieces will help me breath easier come playoff time.

[Shank]

What am I missing about Brewer?

The Knicks would prefer to go with Jeffries instead of CB because D'Antoni is more familiar.
The Lakers could use him but we haven't heard of their interest.
The Bulls are preferring to go after Butler and his scoring potential over adding more defense and potential chemistry with their roster and Noah.

[Phillip]

I like how this has turned into a Mavs vs Spurs thread. Why compare the two when there is no comparison? Spurs are in a class on their own. Mavs can't touch them. It has already been said best a few posts back- If Brewer is a Spurs type of guy, he will choose the Spurs- not because we throw money at him or promise him playing time. The question is not "what can the spurs offer?" its "IS BREWER SPURS MATERIAL?"

lol wetback

[Hoops Czar]

Where the hell did Chicago come from? I thought they were all in on Butler?

[Shank]

Why would they waive Brewer for Jared fucking Jeffries? Wow..

That's what I'm saying. How hard can it be to plug Brewer into D'Antoni's system over a guy like Jared Jeffries? And in a backup role in NY, at that.

[JR3]

lol wetback

lol Ignorance.

[VI_Massive]

What am I missing about Brewer?

The Knicks would prefer to go with Jeffries instead of CB because D'Antoni is more familiar.
The Lakers could use him but we haven't heard of their interest.
The Bulls are preferring to go after Butler and his scoring potential over adding more defense and potential chemistry with their roster and Noah.

The Knicks need more size, though Jeffries always plays smaller than he is.
The Lakers don't need another wing who can't shoot.
Ditto for the Bulls.

[xmas1997]

Maybe OKC is the dark horse here....but they have only a back up role to offer as well. I said it before, I think this could come down to something as simple as "The Mavs said I'll start".

I hope not.

You have to wonder if the whole Spurs personna counts for something in the minds of the average player.
Practically every player who has ever played here wants to come back.
They know little to nothing about the Spurs before they get here, yet why is it they change their minds once totally involved.
Never read a single quote about this being a bad place to be, and on the contrary have read only the opposite of that.
So if Brewer is smart, and a Spurs type of player, then he will be here.

[Shank]

The Knicks need more size, though Jeffries always plays smaller than he is.
The Lakers don't need another wing who can't shoot.
Ditto for the Bulls.

The Lakers, though, could benefit from adding him to their weak bench.

[Shank]

Henry Abbott, TrueHoop on Brewer and his release from the Knicks:

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post?id=25595

[VI_Massive]

The Lakers, though, could benefit from adding him to their weak bench.

I agree, but I think they need more shooting off the bench and Brewer doesn't bring that.

[Shifty]

Henry Abbott, TrueHoop on Brewer and his release from the Knicks:

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post?id=25595
Beat me to it. Just read it.

[Budkin]

The Knicks are just dumb, but what else is new?

[Shank]

The Knicks are just dumb, but what else is new?

They got a nice, cheap little player in Derrick Brown today. Jeffries added soon.

[Phillip]

lol Ignorance.

lol mexican

[xmas1997]

Where the hell did Chicago come from? I thought they were all in on Butler?

And what happened to Butler? I thought the Spurs were interested in him too.

[cd98]

Why would they waive Brewer for Jared fucking Jeffries? Wow..

I can't see him going to Boston or OKC. Dallas is probably the fave because of the money Cubes can throw at him.

Isaiah Thomas back in control?

[Phillip]

That's what I'm saying. How hard can it be to plug Brewer into D'Antoni's system over a guy like Jared Jeffries? And in a backup role in NY, at that.

Because this is Mike D'Antoni we are talking about. If you are a wingman who can't shoot 3s in every way imaginable, you can't play for him.

[cd98]

What am I missing about Brewer?

The Knicks would prefer to go with Jeffries instead of CB because D'Antoni is more familiar.
The Lakers could use him but we haven't heard of their interest.
The Bulls are preferring to go after Butler and his scoring potential over adding more defense and potential chemistry with their roster and Noah.

I can't explain why the Knicks want Jeffries over Brewer. Size/length maybe? Or maybe they are trying to free up room to get more size, i.e. make a run for a big guy should he get released. I don't know.

The others are easy. L.A. can't afford to sign Brewer. Plus, they're glaringly weak at point guard. If I were them, I'd be more interested in Bibby or Ford, if I could afford someone at all. I think they believe Artest can give them more than Brewer. Particularly defensively against the Thunder/Durrant should they meet again.

Bulls are easier to explain. They need peremeter shooting to give Rose room to operate. They don't have a two guard and that is a bigger priority. Not saying that Butler is better, but he fits better with what they need.

[benefactor]

GNSF really is the worst fan on this site.
Fixed.

[lmbebo]

C's in it ?

per david aldridge..

daldridgetnt: W/Boston signing Murphy, Cs out of Powe discussions. Boston looking for wing with other roster spot. Powe keeps talking w/NYK, NO, MEM, MIA.

[xmas1997]

Question: Is Brewer the son of former Spurs Ron Brewer?

[Shank]

C's in it ?

per david aldridge..

daldridgetnt: W/Boston signing Murphy, Cs out of Powe discussions. Boston looking for wing with other roster spot. Powe keeps talking w/NYK, NO, MEM, MIA.

You'd have to think he'd have the fewest minutes available if he were to go to Boston. But hey, crazier things have happened.

[Agloco]

That's what I'm saying. How hard can it be to plug Brewer into D'Antoni's system over a guy like Jared Jeffries? And in a backup role in NY, at that.

Perhaps because NY needs shooters, specifically corner 3 shooters. Brewer wont be mistaken for one anytime soon. One lone defender on the perimeter wont help that squad as much as his offensive liabilities will hurt them.

[lmbebo]

Question: Is Brewer the son of former Spurs Ron Brewer?

No.

Ron Brewer's son is Ronnie Brewer playing for the Bulls?

[TampaDude]

Question: Is Brewer the son of former Spurs Ron Brewer?

Nope...Ron Brewer's son, Ronnie, actually plays for the Bulls, IIRC.

[xmas1997]

No.

Ron Brewer's son is Ronnie Brewer playing for the Bulls?

Thanks:hat

[Shifty]

Nope...Ron Brewer's son, Ronnie, actually plays for the Bulls, IIRC.

Bulls this year. Was on the Jazz for a few years, then the Grizzlies for a few games.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2991/ronnie-brewer

[toki9]

What am I missing about Brewer?

The Knicks would prefer to go with Jeffries instead of CB because D'Antoni is more familiar.
The Lakers could use him but we haven't heard of their interest.
The Bulls are preferring to go after Butler and his scoring potential over adding more defense and potential chemistry with their roster and Noah.

As far as the Knicks go, here is a nice analysis from NYTimes a few days ago:

http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/corey-brewer-isnt-answer-for-knicks-need-for-wing-depth/?src=twrhp

Basically Brewer has no offense but still takes shots he shouldn't.

[SenorSpur]

Henry Abbott, TrueHoop on Brewer and his release from the Knicks:

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post?id=25595

In light of reading Abbott's piece and seeing these advanced stats on Brewer's defensive impact, this simply confirms what many have suspected - that this guy is a burgeoning defensive stud - perhaps in a Bowenesque mold.

All of which should make Spurs fans want this guy even more. This the type of defender the Spurs have needed ever since Bowen left the building. I can only imagine how much better of a defender he will become with some solid coaching and the structured culture that the Spurs can offer. That, along with some continued hard work on his offensive game, would only help him blossom as a well-rounded player.

Despite his paltry offense, I'm convinced that he'd instantly become the Spurs best individual defender. Factor in that he's only 24 years old and he'd be an outstanding get for our Spurs.

[Cry Havoc]

In light of reading Abbott's piece and seeing these advanced stats on Brewer's defensive impact, this simply confirms what many have suspected - that this guy is a burgeoning defensive stud - perhaps in a Bowenesque mold.

All of which should make Spurs fans want this guy even more. This the type of defender the Spurs have needed ever since Bowen left the building. I can only imagine how much better of a defender he will become with some solid coaching and the structured culture that the Spurs can offer. That, along with some continued hard work on his offensive game, would only help him blossom as a well-rounded player.

Despite his paltry offense, I'm convinced that he'd instantly become the Spurs best individual defender. Factor in that he's only 24 years old and he'd be an outstanding get for our Spurs.

:tu

I read that article and started drooling. He sounds like the perfect guy to insert in our system and start shutting down opposing wing scorers.

[EricB]

If you get Brewer, it allows you to sell high on Gary Neal in the offseason.

[Shank]

In light of reading Abbott's piece and seeing these advanced stats on Brewer's defensive impact, this simply confirms what many have suspected - that this guy is a burgeoning defensive stud - perhaps in a Bowenesque mold.

All of which should make Spurs fans want this guy even more. This the type of defender the Spurs have needed ever since Bowen left the building. I can only imagine how much better of a defender he will become with some solid coaching and the structured culture that the Spurs can offer. That, along with some continued hard work on his offensive game, would only help him blossom as a well-rounded player.

Despite his paltry offense, I'm convinced that he'd instantly become the Spurs best individual defender. Factor in that he's only 24 years old and he'd be an outstanding get for our Spurs.

Exactly. I think someone else pointed out trying to get Brewer to be a Bowen-like "3 and D"-type where the points come as a bonus to his defensive prowess. Take the solid wing defense and 6-8 points and he's a positive for whomever picks him up.

[yavozerb]

If you get Brewer, it allows you to sell high on Gary Neal in the offseason.

For the $ Neal is a bargain, not sure why you want to get rid of him. Now George Hill or JA, thats another matter in itself..

[SenorSpur]

Because this is Mike D'Antoni we are talking about. If you are a wingman who can't shoot 3s in every way imaginable, you can't play for him.


Isiah may be gone, but the length of questionable decisions made by this organization keeps growing. If the Knicks ownership and management honestly think that D'Antoni's philosophy and approach are going to result in championship success, even after having empirical evidence to the contrary, then they are drunk on their own hubris.

I guess it's a moot point because they sunk huge money into bringing him in to coach the Knicks in the first place.

[EricB]

For the $ Neal is a bargain, not sure why you want to get rid of him. Now George Hill or JA, thats another matter in itself..


George Hill James Anderson > Gary Neal


Both are better defenders and more versatile.

Neal brings shooting and.......

Plus Anderson is younger, more athletic.


Sell high on Neal package with a draft pick for a higher draft pick or whatever.

[Shifty]

Exactly. I think someone else pointed out trying to get Brewer to be a Bowen-like "3 and D"-type where the points come as a bonus to his defensive prowess. Take the solid wing defense and 6-8 points and he's a positive for whomever picks him up.

With the added benefit of being 6'9 instead of Bowen 6'7. Bowen was often giving up height and weight on many SF. Brewer could guard Dirk/James/Melo/Odom types?

[EricB]

If he bulked up more possibly, but James and Dirk, hes a tad spindly.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

I hope he goes to SA

[benefactor]

Neal isn't going anywhere. Pop has found his Eddie House style gunner and he's not giving him away.

[xmas1997]

Just don't get your hopes up because the Mavs apparently are trying to sell him on being a starter, something Pop would never promise. And they can pay more although from what I've read, not significantly more.

[SenorSpur]

George Hill James Anderson > Gary Neal


Both are better defenders and more versatile.

Neal brings shooting and.......

Plus Anderson is younger, more athletic.


Sell high on Neal package with a draft pick for a higher draft pick or whatever.

Recall the one of the shortcomings of last year's Spurs team was a severe lack of outside shooting. I see what you're saying, but to suggest that the Spurs discard Neal, who is probably the best shooter on the team, even with Anderson and Bonner on board, doesn't make a lot of sense.

Besides, the way the organization feels about Neal and the manner in which Pop has evolved their offensive philosophy, I doubt that he believes he can ever have too many shooters.

[EricB]

Someone has to be thinned out then.

There is literally not enough minutes to go around.

Hill and Anderson are way too talented to be shuffled off to 12th man land.

[rjv]

I wonder why Spurs fans don't shove trophies in the faces of Laker or Celtic fans.... oh wait, I do!

Celtic...

:lobt2:x 17


Lakers...

:lobt2:x 17


and most of the celtics titles came when the spurs were not even an ABA team yet. the lakers have had about 8 since that time. so why compare to the older franchises when the real comparisons are to the ones that have been around about the same length of time ?

[JR3]

Wait... Can't we make him a starter? Why not? Jefferson can come off the bench for all I care. Jefferson is by far the LEAST productive out of our starters and he has not stepped it up on defense. Why not start Brewer if we got him?

[silverblk mystix]

George Hill James Anderson > Gary Neal


Both are better defenders and more versatile.

Neal brings shooting and.......

Plus Anderson is younger, more athletic.


Sell high on Neal package with a draft pick for a higher draft pick or whatever.

Neal is a player. Give him minutes and he fuckin' just produces. He never once played like a rookie...he just went out there and did it. Reminds me a bit of a young Sam Cassell...Cassell had no fuckin' business being out there...yet he swaggered out there and showed NO FUCKIN' RESPECT for anyone and just lighted up their asses...Neal is like this...

Neal: "You can't make a shot you don't take.''



Hill & Anderson are projects with some potential.

(See Nash schooling Hill in last years playoffs for a hint of Hill's future--hence the project label-he might improve if given time)

[JR3]

Well jefferson is the least consistent I'll say.

[ElNono]

James Anderson > Gary Neal

http://www.straferight.com/forums/attachments/off-topic/15612d1217090736-demotivator-picture-thread-wat.jpg

[Cry Havoc]

Someone has to be thinned out then.

There is literally not enough minutes to go around.

Hill and Anderson are way too talented to be shuffled off to 12th man land.

PG/SG/SF rotation:

Parker/Hill
Manu/Anderson or Neal, depending on who else is on the court.
RJ/Brewer

[VI_Massive]

I don't know if we're going to win a recruitment battle with Pop offering up enticements like this:

Pop: "I doubt there will be any names we’d be willing to play ahead of the people who have been playing and gotten you where you’re at."

From JMC's twitter feed. http://twitter.com/#!/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/42664019798147072

[# 1 Troll]

I don't know if we're going to win a recruitment battle with Pop offering up enticements like this:

Pop: "I doubt there will be any names we’d be willing to play ahead of the people who have been playing and gotten you where you’re at."

From JMC's twitter feed. http://twitter.com/#!/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/42664019798147072

pop just talking

[JR3]

I don't know if we're going to win a recruitment battle with Pop offering up enticements like this:

Pop: "I doubt there will be any names we’d be willing to play ahead of the people who have been playing and gotten you where you’re at."

From JMC's twitter feed. http://twitter.com/#!/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/42664019798147072

Answers my question.

[ElNono]

I don't know if we're going to win a recruitment battle with Pop offering up enticements like this:

Pop: "I doubt there will be any names we’d be willing to play ahead of the people who have been playing and gotten you where you’re at."

From JMC's twitter feed. http://twitter.com/#!/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/42664019798147072


(Ring, Ring)

Corey: Hello?
Pop: Hi Corey! This is Pop. We've a very enticing offer for you...
Corey: Oh, yeah?
Pop: Yes, if you sign for the vet min with us, we'll give you outstanding seating in all our games. You can even join the huddle and listen to me. You would be getting paid to watch the best team...(click)

[VI_Massive]

pop just talking

Yeah but it's talking that's going to persuade someone to sign here. Maybe he's just saying that for public consumption and to not damage the confidence of current team members. Maybe he's saying otherwise privately to Brewer and/or others we might be after.

[Cry Havoc]

Answers my question.

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[spursfaninla]

Someone has to be thinned out then.

There is literally not enough minutes to go around.

Hill and Anderson are way too talented to be shuffled off to 12th man land.

Hill has proven himself, but he is probably about as good as he is going to get.

Anderson is still a huge question mark. His offense is not really needed, either.

Brewer would be greatly valuable as the defensive stopper, and would be filling a need better than anderson at this point.

However, we might have passed the stop on trying to be a defense first team, honestly.

[Shank]

Pop's being fair. No reason to take away a starting role from the guys that have been busting their asses there for months. For Dallas, though, that position has been a revolving door since Butler went out.

[EricB]

I don't know if we're going to win a recruitment battle with Pop offering up enticements like this:

Pop: "I doubt there will be any names we’d be willing to play ahead of the people who have been playing and gotten you where you’re at."

From JMC's twitter feed. http://twitter.com/#!/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/42664019798147072 (http://twitter.com/#%21/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/42664019798147072)


You don't know about the Pop decoder ring do you.

[Mixability]

You don't know about the Pop decoder ring do you.

:lol

[EricB]

"We wont be making any trades this year" - Day before the 2005 NBA Trade Deadline

"BREAKING Malik Rose has been shipped to New York for Nazr Mohammed"

[SenorSpur]

PG/SG/SF rotation:

Parker/Hill
Manu/Anderson or Neal, depending on who else is on the court.
RJ/Brewer

Guys,
We're already talking about rotation minutes and a logjam at the 2 & 3 slots, and we don't have Brewer inked to a contract yet. It's a wonderful problem to have, but let's "tap the brakes" a bit.

[EricB]

The above rotation IF IT HAPPENED

illustrates my point....

[VI_Massive]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/03/01/spurs-poring-over-list-of-available-players/

The quotes in there make me think our move will be to add Temple and stick him deep on the bench. Then again, why would Pop be reportedly speaking to Corey Brewer if we really weren't interested in, you know, playing him? As always, Pop and the Spurs keeping things murky.....

[ricketts]

Wait... Can't we make him a starter? Why not? Jefferson can come off the bench for all I care. Jefferson is by far the LEAST productive out of our starters and he has not stepped it up on defense. Why not start Brewer if we got him?

my thoughts exactly. Richardson started out looking like he'd gotten where we all wanted him to be. but the last 10-15 games he's gone back to looking like he did all last year. zero impact and occasionally a good game. i dont see the harm in making him ride the pine if he continues to play this way. especially if it will help entice brewer to SA.

[tdunk21]

http://twitter.com/#!/JMcDonald_SAEN


They're talking to him, but it was always sort of a long shot. RT @DavidcReyna translation.... no Corey brewer

[EricB]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/03/01/spurs-poring-over-list-of-available-players/

The quotes in there make me think our move will be to add Temple and stick him deep on the bench. Then again, why would Pop be reportedly speaking to Corey Brewer if we really weren't interested in, you know, playing him? As always, Pop and the Spurs keeping things murky.....


:lol

Did you just start being a fan of the team yesterday?

The team has kept things murky since the summer of 1994.

[EricB]

Bench Richard Jefferson for Corey Brewer?


WTF is wrong with you people!?

[lefty]

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STEIN_LINE_HQ (http://twitter.com/#%21/STEIN_LINE_HQ) Marc Stein



Just informed Cavs have joined bidding for Corey Brewer. How could 11-48 Cavs be a factor? They have nearly $3.7 mil of their midlevel left

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[Shank]

Cavs now in the mix, likely ready to money-whip Brewer. But he's come out and said he's tired of being on losing teams, so that quickly eliminates Cleveland.

[ricketts]

not saying permenently. but look at him the last 3 games specifically. he has done nothing but eat minutes. im not pop, so im missing something, but if he can use that to either a) motivate rj or b) convince brewer. im all about it

[lefty]

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STEIN_LINE_HQ (http://twitter.com/#%21/STEIN_LINE_HQ) Marc Stein



But all indications say Brewer still prefers contender. As @daldridgetnt (http://twitter.com/daldridgetnt) tweeted, Heat/Bulls/Hornets have joined hunt with Mavs/Spurs/ Celts

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[VI_Massive]

:lol

Did you just start being a fan of the team yesterday?

The team has kept things murky since the summer of 1994.

That's why I said "As always".

[SenorSpur]

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STEIN_LINE_HQ (http://twitter.com/#%21/STEIN_LINE_HQ) Marc Stein



But all indications say Brewer still prefers contender. As @daldridgetnt (http://twitter.com/daldridgetnt) tweeted, Heat/Bulls/Hornets have joined hunt with Mavs/Spurs/ Celts

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Oh snap! The plot thickens...

[DJ Mbenga]

looks like every team in the nba is trying to cockblock each other

[EricB]

Cavs now in the mix, likely ready to money-whip Brewer. But he's come out and said he's tired of being on losing teams, so that quickly eliminates Cleveland.


Corey Maggette said the same thing right before he signed with the Golden State Warriors....

[Shifty]

Corey Maggette said the same thing right before he signed with the Golden State Warriors....
Because Maggette thought he was good enough to be the man, or close to it. I don't think Brewer has those dellusions.

[Shank]

Corey Maggette said the same thing right before he signed with the Golden State Warriors....

Ew.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Odds are neither the Spurs or Mavs get him.
Boston or Chicago would be my bets

[EricB]

Because Maggette thought he was good enough to be the man, or close to it. I don't think Brewer has those dellusions.

Maggette wanted to be on a winner, chose Golden State cause they offered more money.


Wouldn't shock me at all if Brewer did the same nor would I fault him.

[lefty]

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STEIN_LINE_HQ (http://twitter.com/#%21/STEIN_LINE_HQ) Marc Stein



Brewer in process of weighing it all after Monday night recruiting calls from Popovich, Doc R and Cuban. Lakers, to date, have NOT called

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[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Good Cuban talked to him, didn't feel confident if RC was doing the pitching

[tdunk21]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/03/01/spurs-poring-over-list-of-available-players/


MEMPHIS – Though the Spurs are taking a serious look at some of the players who have been released in recent days by other teams, head coach and president of basketball operations Gregg Popovich doubts the club will find a player who would figure into his regular playing rotation.

“We’re watching the wire and all the names to see if there is anyone who can fit,” Popovich said after the team’s morning practice at FedEx Forum before Tuesday’s game against the Grizzlies.

“It’s pretty late in the year and I doubt there will be any names we’d be willing to play ahead of the people who have been playing and gotten you where you’re at. With that in mind, one has to wonder what the wisdom there is, unless you think there is somebody good enough that they’re going to play ahead of what you have. I don’t know that there is anybody in that category.”

Popovich did not deny a report on YahooSports that he would meet soon with swing man Corey Brewer, available after being bought out of his contract with the Knicks, but did not elaborate.

“I’m just going to say there are six or seven names out there that R.C. and the boys have put in front of us that we’ve been discussing for the last couple of days.

“We may do something. It’s more likely that we might add somebody now than the likelihood of us having traded somebody at the trade deadline.”

One name Popovich confirmed intrigued the Spurs: Garrett Temple, the combo guard who was with the Spurs for the final weeks of the 2009-10 season and went through most of training camp before being waived.

He called Temple “a very interesting name for us.”

[Dex]

@STEIN_LINE_HQ I think I like Brewer in San Antonio best, but I wonder if they are in just because Dallas is in or vice versa.

[Supergirl]

I'd be happy if we picked up Temple and/or Brewer.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Just make a damn decision already.

[Dex]

Don’t listen to Rob Mahoney, Corey Brewer is alright

Rob Mahoney preemptively defended the Knicks’ decision to waive Corey Brewer, and despite the playful title of this post, I agree with him. Corey Brewer wasn’t a great fit for the Knicks. Mahoney:

Brewer may have played regular minutes for Minnesota, but he’s still a very poor offensive player who cannot be relegated to the corner because of his lack of 3-point range. That’s damaging enough on its own, but considering how important the corner 3 is to the Knicks’ offense, Brewer seems to be a particularly poor fit for New York’s rotation.

Having said that, I agree with Henry Abbott’s general assessment of Brewer:

Basically, despite playing for a miserable Timberwolves team, [Brewer] has showed up very well in almost any stat that incorporates defense — plus/minus, adjusted plus/minus, opponents’ productivity, etc. Some of that is probably an artifact of the reality that it’s easy to be efficient when you aspire to do little on offense. Brewer doesn’t take a lot of bad shots, he can feed the post, and he’s incredibly high energy so he cleans up on turnovers and with easy buckets.

Corey Brewer actually improved his shot last season. He shot at least .300 from around the arc, splitting up his accuracy HotSpots style, which was remarkable because you couldn’t pay him to attempt a three during the 08-09 season. He knows his place. His shooting has kind of fallen back this year, and it’s difficult to say whether his three point shot is redeemable (Chip Engelland, look for your Bat Call) or if last season’s improvement was a fluke. But, going with Mahoney, Brewer is not someone whom smart coaches can hide in the corner. Maybe someday. Not today.

Read more: http://www.48minutesofhell.com/corey-brewer-san-antonio-spurs#ixzz1FNaEZJV5

[lefty]

Pop and R.C on CIA mode

[Shank]

Just make a damn decision already.

No shit. I think we're losing perspective on the guy the longer this drags on. Take a step back and realize it's just Corey Brewer. He's almost become a court legend at this point.

[EricB]

A long athletic long defender like Brewer would be awesome. But I doubt he comes.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

No shit. I think we're losing perspective on the guy the longer this drags on. Take a step back and realize it's just Corey Brewer. He's almost become a court legend at this point.

Exactly.

[VI_Massive]

No shit. I think we're losing perspective on the guy the longer this drags on. Take a step back and realize it's just Corey Brewer. He's almost become a court legend at this point.

Remember the adulation and excitement for Drew Gooden a couple years ago?

[xmas1997]

I think the Mavs got him since it is being reported that Cuban talked to him.
Cuban will say and promise anything!

[Shank]

@BobCavsinsider:‎ Source said Cavs have NOT made a bid on swingman Corey Brewer. He was recently waived by the Knicks.

[DBMethos]

Does Corey Brewer really put anybody over the top as a title favorite? He'd be an interesting piece to develop longer-term, but I don't think he changes anybody's fate this postseason.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

I think the Mavs got him since it is being reported that Cuban talked to him.
Cuban will say and promise anything!

Cuban had the same conversation with Al Harrington in the summer
face to face and we saw what happened.
Seems like the Mavs never win bids like this,
Al Harrington
Jermaine O'Neal
Udonis Haslem

[DesignatedT]

Does Corey Brewer really put anybody over the top as a title favorite? He'd be an interesting piece to develop longer-term, but I don't think he changes anybody's fate this postseason.

Probably true, but he fills a void here more then any other team. He most likely wouldn't get as many minutes here compared to Dallas since Neal has been so impressive but he would definitely be useful against the likes of Kobe, Durant, and other stars.

[Shank]

Cuban had the same conversation with Al Harrington in the summer
face to face and we saw what happened.
Seems like the Mavs never win bids like this,
Al Harrington
Jermaine O'Neal
Udonis Haslem

To be fair, Harrington was able to get more playing time in Denver and would have been redundant if Tim Thomas was able to return. O'Neal is a turd and we all lucked out there. And there was no real chance Haslem was going to leave Miami anyway.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

To be fair, Harrington was able to get more playing time in Denver and would have been redundant if Tim Thomas was able to return. O'Neal is a turd and we all lucked out there. And there was no real chance Haslem was going to leave Miami anyway.

True. Damn imagine how screwed we'd be if O'neal signed here.
Haywood and O'Neal as our centers, lucked out

[DesignatedT]

Anderson would surely be glued to the bench in a suit if this happens but it seems most of ST is willing for that to happen. Also, Playing time for Neal would go down as well.

[Shank]

"His group thought it was better that he go somewhere where he can play.” - D'Antoni on Corey Brewer

[ace3g]

Spurs talk to Brewer … now what?
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/03/01/spurs-talk-to-brewer-now-what/

[pad300]

Anderson would surely be glued to the bench in a suit if this happens but it seems most of ST is willing for that to happen. Also, Playing time for Neal would go down as well.

I think it's more of a Manu has to work too hard when he plays the backup 3. Perhaps the single biggest weakness on the team is our small wing players aside from Jefferson. We have 1 SF sized guy on the roster (Jefferson), all the others are 1 sized (Parker, Hill, Quinn, Neal) or 2 sized (Manu, Anderson{when healthy}). With Anderson being out, Manu is asked to carry a heck of a physical load...

[Mel_13]

"His group thought it was better that he go somewhere where he can play.” - D'Antoni on Corey Brewer

Brewer is represented by Arn Tellem, who is probably the most powerful agent representing NBA players. Brewer was going to be a free agent this summer even if he wasn't bought out. The quote from MDA would indicate that Tellem will advise Brewer to go someplace where can showcase his talents for free agency, as opposed to any short-term financial gain.

[Shank]

Brewer is represented by Arn Tellem, who is probably the most powerful agent representing NBA players. Brewer was going to be a free agent this summer even if he wasn't bought out. The quote from MDA would indicate that Tellem will advise Brewer to go someplace where can showcase his talents for free agency, as opposed to any short-term financial gain.

Excellent thoughts. More minutes = more exposure = potential for more money. Which of the suitors is going to be able to give this to his client AND make sure he's shown off in a positive light (ie not riding the bench, inactive in a suit)?

[Bruno]

Brewer available playing time will depend on what Spurs decide to do with Anderson. Anderson has been nowhere near the level he had before he broke his foot. Should Spurs keep working with him this year to have him ready for the playoffs or should they consider this year as lost for him and focus on the next one?

[Agloco]

Does Corey Brewer really put anybody over the top as a title favorite? He'd be an interesting piece to develop longer-term, but I don't think he changes anybody's fate this postseason.

I don't think anybody here believes that. He's popular because he provides some depth and versatility to the teams looking at him. I don't think anyone (including the posters here) are under any delusions about his impact this season or going forward.

Hes a solid defensive prospect and should he put in time on developing a 3 ball, he becomes a solid rotation player in the Bowen mold. Consider him a raw talent at this point that can contribute in spot minutes.

[Muser]

Both Dallas and SA can give him minutes.

He'd be the backup to RJ in SA, and in Dallas he could start or be backup to whoever is starting at the 3.

[Obstructed_View]

Brewer is represented by Arn Tellem, who is probably the most powerful agent representing NBA players. Brewer was going to be a free agent this summer even if he wasn't bought out. The quote from MDA would indicate that Tellem will advise Brewer to go someplace where can showcase his talents for free agency, as opposed to any short-term financial gain.

Oh well, it was a nice idea. "Come to the Spurs. You can be on Sportscenter when you get scored on or injured." isn't really a great pitch.

[Obstructed_View]

Does Corey Brewer really put anybody over the top as a title favorite? He'd be an interesting piece to develop longer-term, but I don't think he changes anybody's fate this postseason.

If you believe the Spurs need someone to slow down the Kobe/Carmelo/Rose type guys in the league, he becomes pretty important, no? Someone could have made the same statement about a guy like Glenn Robinson, and he did put the Spurs over the top.

[DesignatedT]

I think it's more of a Manu has to work too hard when he plays the backup 3. Perhaps the single biggest weakness on the team is our small wing players aside from Jefferson. We have 1 SF sized guy on the roster (Jefferson), all the others are 1 sized (Parker, Hill, Quinn, Neal) or 2 sized (Manu, Anderson{when healthy}). With Anderson being out, Manu is asked to carry a heck of a physical load...

Yeah I agree but to assume he is just going to come in and take on the backup sf position is pretty retarded tbh. Pop isn't going to promise him minutes like Dallas is going to. Although we are undersized for the most part on the wing position it has gotten us to a 49-10 record. Neal has earned a spot in the rotation thus far and I doubt Pop is going to nail Neal to the bench because Corey Brewer got cut. Dallas can offer more of a role for the guy then we can. Saying that, I really hope he signs with us because he could be an affective player for us against superstar wings like Kobe, Durant etc.... but I don't see him coming in getting 20-25+ minutes a game.

[JR3]

If you believe the Spurs need someone to slow down the Kobe/Carmelo/Rose type guys in the league, he becomes pretty important, no? Someone could have made the same statement about a guy like Glenn Robinson, and he did put the Spurs over the top.

I disagree Glenn Robinson put us "over the top" we just happened to win it while he was on the team.

[SenorSpur]

Both Dallas and SA can give him minutes.

He'd be the backup to RJ in SA, and in Dallas he could start or be backup to whoever is starting at the 3.

In Dallas, Carlisle is currently starting Peja at the 3-spot. So it's possible Brewer could be the starter there. However assuming he's resigned over the summer, Caron Butler would be the permanent starter for them at the 3-spot.

[DesignatedT]

Brewer would eventually start for Dallas over Peja. You can book that. Until Butler returns of course.

[Obstructed_View]

I disagree Glenn Robinson put us "over the top" we just happened to win it while he was on the team.

Then you didn't watch the playoffs that year or you've just forgotten his impact. He hit big shots, and came in to stop a couple of offensive droughts. I think he even made a big defensive play at one point.

[EricB]

I disagree Glenn Robinson put us "over the top" we just happened to win it while he was on the team.


Rewatch the 2005 playoffs again.

He came in handy vs Denver Detroit and Seattle.

[Shank]

Can he feasibly go to New Orleans? Wouldn't Cuban flip his shit if that were to happen?

[Obstructed_View]

In Dallas, Carlisle is currently starting Peja at the 3-spot. So it's possible Brewer could be the starter there. However assuming he's resigned over the summer, Caron Butler would be the permanent starter for them at the 3-spot.

If this is a rental, and he's trying to showcase for a free-agent deal, a starting role is probably going to be his best bet. Also, as you alluded to, Butler's no guarantee to ever play a game as a Mav again.

[Obstructed_View]

Can he feasibly go to New Orleans? Wouldn't Cuban flip his shit if that were to happen?

:lol :clap

[JR3]

Rewatch the 2005 playoffs again.

He came in handy vs Denver Detroit and Seattle.

I must not remember... Good excuse to get the Championship DVDs out again!... now how am I going to explain this to my wife? hmm..

[Shank]

Mavs must still be in the thick of this. Otherwise, they'd have announced the signing of Pavlovic by this point.

[DesignatedT]

I must not remember... Good excuse to get the Championship DVDs out again!... now how am I going to explain this to my wife? hmm..

:lol

[senorglory]

2-24-11 NYTimes: Brewer Isn’t Answer for Knicks’ Need for Wing Depth (http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/corey-brewer-isnt-answer-for-knicks-need-for-wing-depth/?src=twrhp)

"Brewer may have played regular minutes for Minnesota, but he’s still a very poor offensive player who cannot be relegated to the corner because of his lack of 3-point range."

On the other hand, Abbott at TrueHoop today argues that Brewer's 3pt pct. is artificially lowered by Brewer's many end of the period at the buzzer heaves, of which he apparently leads the league.

[SenorSpur]

If this is a rental, and he's trying to showcase for a free-agent deal, a starting role is probably going to be his best bet. Also, as you alluded to, Butler's no guarantee to ever play a game as a Mav again.

Don't forget the Mavs also have Shawn Marion as their designated 6th man, and designated stopper to close out games. If the Mavs do somehow sign Brewer, I wonder how happy the Matrix will be if his already-limited playing time gets reduced by the presence of an even better defender in Brewer?

And some think that the Spurs will have a logjam if Brewer signs.

[SenorSpur]

If this is a rental, and he's trying to showcase for a free-agent deal, a starting role is probably going to be his best bet. Also, as you alluded to, Butler's no guarantee to ever play a game as a Mav again.

I know the Mavs number one offseason priority is Tyson Chandler. Next would be Caron Butler, who has already made strong overtures about his intention on remaining with the Mavs.

If the add Brewer today, it's highly doubtful that they'll be able to afford to resign him over the summer. This should get real juicy.

[Obstructed_View]

2-24-11 NYTimes: Brewer Isn’t Answer for Knicks’ Need for Wing Depth (http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/corey-brewer-isnt-answer-for-knicks-need-for-wing-depth/?src=twrhp)

"Brewer may have played regular minutes for Minnesota, but he’s still a very poor offensive player who cannot be relegated to the corner because of his lack of 3-point range."

On the other hand, Abbott at TrueHoop today argues that Brewer's 3pt pct. is artificially lowered by Brewer's many end of the period at the buzzer heaves, of which he apparently leads the league.

That sort of explains why you see guys wait until just after the buzzer to launch those. There are probably a lot of guys who have had money taken out of their pockets negotiating for a free agent deal because of that.

[Muser]

I don't get how the Spurs have a logjam? The only true 3 the Spurs have is RJ, so signing Brewer would give you the backup SF the Spurs desperately need. Manu/Neal/Hill/Anderson aren't legit options at the 3.

[DesignatedT]

I keep forgetting about Marion. Dude had Manu on clamps during last years playoffs :lol

[Shank]

Don't forget the Mavs also have Shawn Marion as their designated 6th man, and designated stopper to close out games. If the Mavs do somehow sign Brewer, I wonder how happy the Matrix will be if his already-limited playing time gets reduced by the presence of an even better defender in Brewer?

And some think that the Spurs will have a logjam if Brewer signs.

Good point, but you'd have to think the chance to be in the starting lineup may equal his want to close out games. That and matchups may dictate that decision.

[SenorSpur]

I don't get how the Spurs have a logjam? The only true 3 the Spurs have is RJ, so signing Brewer would give you the backup SF the Spurs desperately need. Manu/Neal/Hill/Anderson aren't legit options at the 3.

I couldn't agree more, but there has been some speculation in this thread about the potential for a logjam at the 2/3 spot - even if Brewer doesn't sign.

[DesignatedT]

I don't get how the Spurs have a logjam? The only true 3 the Spurs have is RJ, so signing Brewer would give you the backup SF the Spurs desperately need. Manu/Neal/Hill/Anderson aren't legit options at the 3.

but they have been legit enough to go 49-10 so far. Brewer isn't going to just come in here and start logging 25+ minutes a game as the backup 3 when our other guys (though not the most ideal options) have helped lead this team to the best franchise start in history.

[SenorSpur]

Good point, but you'd have to think the chance to be in the starting lineup may equal his want to close out games. That and matchups may dictate that decision.

True. And one thing we know is that Carlisle isn't married to any particular lineup. He allows matchups to dictate that. His only mantra to his guys is "role versatility". He implores them to "stay ready"

[Phillip]

Don't forget the Mavs also have Shawn Marion as their designated 6th man, and designated stopper to close out games. If the Mavs do somehow sign Brewer, I wonder how happy the Matrix will be if his already-limited playing time gets reduced by the presence of an even better defender in Brewer?

And some think that the Spurs will have a logjam if Brewer signs.

I doubt Marion loses many minutes, if any at all. Peja likely loses some, and Stevenson will lose all of his. Brewer will probably get about 15-20 minutes, tops on the Mavs, but likely would be in a starting role. And this way, if Marion gets into foul trouble, they always will have another athletic wing defender to throw out there, because if Marion is in foul trouble, then they have none (unless you count Stevenson, but he is kinda short)

[ChumpDumper]

I don't get how the Spurs have a logjam? The only true 3 the Spurs have is RJ, so signing Brewer would give you the backup SF the Spurs desperately need. Manu/Neal/Hill/Anderson aren't legit options at the 3.Not for you, maybe.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Marion isn't losing any minutes, Peja would lose most.

[jjktkk]

Don't forget the Mavs also have Shawn Marion as their designated 6th man, and designated stopper to close out games. If the Mavs do somehow sign Brewer, I wonder how happy the Matrix will be if his already-limited playing time gets reduced by the presence of an even better defender in Brewer?

And some think that the Spurs will have a logjam if Brewer signs.

Not to mention Cuban is already paying the luxury tax. Would Cuban want to take on more salary?

[Shank]

Celtics dipping their huge balls into this hot tub. If he's wanting to be showcased, being buried behind Jeff Green in Boston isn't going to help.

[Muser]

Having a true defensive 3 is something the Spurs have needed since Bruce hung them up, do you honestly think that Ginobili/Hill/Neal/Anderson are viable backups on a contending team?

Especially with Tony out for the next few weeks, meaning Manu and Hill will have to play more of a PG role.

[Shank]

Not to mention Cuban is already paying the luxury tax. Would Cuban want to take on more salary?

He's long said he doesn't mind so long as it's the right player and fit. Do the Spurs want to, either?

[Muser]

Spurs wouldn't be in the luxury tax I don't think.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

The Bulls would be a very good fit

[DesignatedT]

I'm not really sure tbh, they have helped lead us to a 49-10 record though. It creates a problem (in some peoples eyes) because in the playoffs teams traditionally cut down to an 8 man rotation with maybe a 9th getting spot minutes. Having Tony,Hill,Manu,Neal,Brewer and RJ at those positions is more than likely going to cut one of the guys way down in minutes once the playoffs roll around.

[Mel_13]

The Bulls would be a very good fit

Deng plays 39 mpg.

[ChumpDumper]

Having a true defensive 3 is something the Spurs have needed since Bruce hung them up, do you honestly think that Ginobili/Hill/Neal/Anderson are viable backups on a contending team?Do you think Corey Brewer is so much better than all of these players combined in the minutes they would play at the 3? I really haven't scouted the Timberwolves the past three years as extensively as the rest of you apparently have. I'm fine with picking him up, but I'm not prepared to call it a season if they don't.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

I'm thinking at the 2 obviously, the Bulls need for one

[xmas1997]

Spurs can actually sign up to 3 players without going into lux tax territory, but cannot match the amount that Cuban can offer although they wouldn't be that much below.
It comes down to which contending team he thinks would be the best fit for him.
With the history of Bowen playing and starting here, I can't help but think that if he is smart, he will choose the Spurs.

[Mel_13]

I'm thinking at the 2 obviously, the Bulls need for one

They're looking for a scoring 2, they already have the other Brewer.

[DesignatedT]

I thought the Bulls were getting Butler?

[Shank]

Do you think Corey Brewer is so much better than all of these players combined in the minutes they would play at the 3? I really haven't scouted the Timberwolves the past three years as extensively as the rest of you apparently have. I'm fine with picking him up, but I'm not prepared to call it a season if they don't.

Echo this for me on the Mavs-end of things.

[ginobilized]

Here's a question:

Have the Spurs ever signed a player represented by Arn Tellem?

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

I really don't know what team makes the most sense lol.
Whoever gets him will be getting a solid contributor.

[DesignatedT]

Here's a question:

Have the Spurs ever signed a player represented by Arn Tellem?

I believe Tiago Splitter is represented by Tellem

[Shifty]

I believe Tiago Splitter is represented by Tellem
It only took us 3 years to get him to sign so we can expect Brewer in a Spurs uniform by 2014.

[ginobilized]

Thanks!
All hope is not lost

[ginobilized]

False hope is still hope...

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Brewer really soaking up this attention, twitter getting hammered
these contenders competing for him. Let it drag out my man lol

[Mel_13]

I believe Tiago Splitter is represented by Tellem

He is, as are many others:

http://hoopshype.com/agents/arn_tellem.htm

[Phillip]

Do you think Corey Brewer is so much better than all of these players combined in the minutes they would play at the 3? I really haven't scouted the Timberwolves the past three years as extensively as the rest of you apparently have. I'm fine with picking him up, but I'm not prepared to call it a season if they don't.


Echo this for me on the Mavs-end of things.

I agree as well, although I would much rather have him than not. IMO, the single biggest thing the Mavs are lacking is another wing defender with size.

Some people keep saying they need a #2 scorer, which I don't disagree with at all, but I do think that they have enough offensive players to make do with what they got, but I'm not sure if they have the personel defensively to say the same thing. At this point, if Marion gets in foul trouble, then the Mavs are pretty much fucked in terms of defending elite wing players. Having the extra depth there with Brewer makes me feel a lot better, especially if they start him, because one thing I dont like seeing is the Mavs allowing a wing scorer to get into a groove early in the game. They need a wing defender in the starting unit to keep them off rhythm early.

[Agloco]

The Bulls would be a very good fit


I'm thinking at the 2 obviously, the Bulls need for one

Bulls need a 3-baller, Brewer just doesn't fit the mold.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

WojYahooNBA (http://twitter.com/#%21/WojYahooNBA) Adrian Wojnarowski



Nearly a dozen teams have checked in with free agent Corey Brewer's camp and they're sorting through the suitors now.

[DesignatedT]

lol a dozen teams.

[Budkin]

Wow this guy must feel like the most important player in the league right now.

[Agloco]

lots of interest in him. He's gotta be pretty happy.

I wonder if "The Ocho" will be televising/carrying his decision?

[Shank]

Seeing Celtics landing him.

[SenorSpur]

lots of interest in him. He's gotta be pretty happy.

I wonder if "The Ocho" will be televising/carrying his decision?

It's not too late for Brewer and his agent to contact both the YMCA and Jim Gray to reserve a spot for his announcment. That's doing it up, "Bron-Style.

[Mel_13]

It's remarkable that Brewer is attracting attention from half the league, while the 14-46 team that used the 7th pick in the draft on him had no interest in retaining his services.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c216/Stindhiven/KHAAAN.jpg

[lefty]

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[Agloco]

It's remarkable that Brewer is attracting attention from half the league, while the 14-46 team that used the 7th pick in the draft on him had no interest in retaining his services.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c216/Stindhiven/KHAAAN.jpg

:lol

[Shifty]

I wonder if "The Ocho" will be televising/carrying his decision?
They would have to cut into their dodgeball tournaments.

[DesignatedT]

hes taking his talents to south beach

[spurtech09]

Hope brewer comes to the spurs.....Spurs need another vet on the squad

[Phillip]

Seeing Celtics landing him.

what makes you feel that way?

[moisaenz]

It's remarkable that Brewer is attracting attention from half the league, while the 14-46 team that used the 7th pick in the draft on him had no interest in retaining his services.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c216/Stindhiven/KHAAAN.jpg

Thats how small markets work. They dump their picks on any kind of trade for the good of the leagues best interest.

[xmas1997]

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If that's the case, forget the Spurs.
They would already know something by now if he chose them.

[Muser]

Do you think Corey Brewer is so much better than all of these players combined in the minutes they would play at the 3? I really haven't scouted the Timberwolves the past three years as extensively as the rest of you apparently have. I'm fine with picking him up, but I'm not prepared to call it a season if they don't.

Yeah I do, he has length and athleticism which is exactly what the Spurs need. None of those listed give the Spurs both of those qualities.

[Shank]

what makes you feel that way?

Following the right people on Twitter.

[Dex]

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Nearly a dozen teams have checked in with free agent Corey Brewer's camp and they're sorting through the suitors now. Watch ESPN tonight for the decision, 7:00 pm ET


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:wow :wow :wow

[yavozerb]

If that's the case, forget the Spurs.
They would already know something by now if he chose them.

agreed..Arn looking at who can pay the most and who can help get the best contract for next season. Guy is still too young to care about winning a championship and giving up money to do so. Nothing wrong with that I guess

[EmantheSpursFan]

See it too ^ ugh
Celtics Really?

[Shank]

Spurs looking at Carlos Arroyo.

[Phillip]

LMAO arroyo

[Hoops Czar]

Spurs looking at Carlos Arroyo.

One teams trash is another teams treasure.

[ohmwrecker]

Spurs looking at Carlos Arroyo.

Spurs are quite fond of untalented Heat PGs.

[Shifty]

One teams trash is another teams treasure.
The trash from the thinest team at that position is the treasure of the best backcourt team of the league? Weird.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

So he's going to Celtics?

[crc21209]

Well, Pop and the Spurs have made their pitch....time to wait on his decision.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Spurs got him.
damn per Marc Stein

[DesignatedT]

make a decision already

[lefty]

Hes going to the Lakers

[Budkin]

Celtics Big 3 are great recruiters... sure they're hyping it up. Remember Sheed? Spurs players are probably just straight forward. "Come here, play hard, and win."

[DesignatedT]

I'm thinkin Boston

[Budkin]

Spurs got him.
damn per Marc Stein

Wha?

[xmas1997]

If he were going to the Spurs, they would know by now, and from their recent statements, it sounds like they know he isn't likely coming to the Spurs.

[lefty]

Celtics Big 3 are great recruiters... sure they're hyping it up. Remember Sheed? Spurs players are probably just straight forward. "Come here, play hard, and win."
Weird

Those 2 words should have landed Sheed

Both teams played hard

[lefty]

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[Mel_13]

Celtics Big 3 are great recruiters... sure they're hyping it up. Remember Sheed? Spurs players are probably just straight forward. "Come here, play hard, and win."

And they got fat Sheed while the Spurs settled for Dice. Worked out pretty well, actually.

[crc21209]

I'm thinkin Boston

I would think he might go there too. But why? Where are the minutes for him? Behind Pierce and Green?

[crc21209]

Spurs got him.
damn per Marc Stein

?

[Budkin]

Stein hasn't said shit.